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18 June 2016 430 comments
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Saturday brings to a close the second round of group matches, with Groups E and F in focus.

The day’s opening clash features Belgium, widely considered a contender to win the tournament, who now face a fight for survival having suffered a 2-0 reverse at the hands of Italy in their first fixture. They’ll face a determined Republic of Ireland outfit who let slip a one-goal advantage against Sweden to register a draw in their opening tie.

Both must go for the three points this time around, with Marc Wilmot’s men seeking to improve on their conversion of chances, having fired in 18 attempts against the Italians without reward.

Martin O’Neill’s side will struggle to match that threat, although they notched four shots on target against the Swedes, their best total in any previous European Championship tournament outing.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Clutch13
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Finally some points from Hazard.. 🙂

  2. Ayew Serious
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    I honestly think I'd be in the top 100 of this fantasy game if I didn't have three Irish players lol

    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Not sure Albanian players would help.

    2. Ziro
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      I honestly think you wouldn't have.

    3. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Same as I have 3 Swiss

      1. Grand Thibauto
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Well thats what got you into the top 100 almost

  3. Total Foot 5
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    is witsel considered a DM defensive Mid or more of a CM central mid allowed to move a bit upfront?

    1. ★Kuntheman★
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Latter

    2. Camp No No
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      He moves very little bit upfront though. That goal was about his first run in the box.

    3. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      More to do with the Irish setup
      No need to cover Long with 3

    4. Eden Hazardous
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      DM

  4. Mark-O
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Trollkaku at its best

  5. ★Kuntheman★
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Cmon De Bruyne one goal and I'm golden.

    1. Mark-O
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Bling bling

      1. ★Kuntheman★
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        $$$

    2. LǝgleSs e|even
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Its coming.. Just hang in there.. Fellow captainer. Stripped it off Juanfran

      1. ★Kuntheman★
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Stripped it off Perisic here

  6. pablo discobar
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    With doubts over French and Spanish and Italian players and the resurgence of Belgium I more and more heading towards a wildcard for GW 3.

    1. Ayew Serious
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Belgium still aren't good

      1. Eden Hazardous
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Sweden are worse than Ireland , so..... *shrugs*

        1. ★Kuntheman★
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          Are they?

          1. Eden Hazardous
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            Don't rate them.

        2. Ayew Serious
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          They're not. And even if they are, Belgium won't score 3

        3. Odikostar
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          Are they?

          1. Eden Hazardous
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            I think so. One man army and no proper tactics. At least Ireland park the bus .

  7. Eden Hazardous
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Lukaku in GW 3 Wildcard?

    1. ★Kuntheman★
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Nah. Bale.

    2. Lynxy
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      You know how it goes. As soon as you picked him, he'll start doing nothing 😉

  8. Bøwstring The Carp
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Says a lot when our CB couldn't get into a relegated Aston Villa side

    1. Give The Todd Some Love
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Tbf he really should have been in the Villa side

      1. Ayew Serious
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        I think he has showed why you're wrong

        1. Give The Todd Some Love
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          He's still awful. Lescott was worse.

  9. Horlicks esq.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Hmmm.

    Now this is a quandary.

    Wildcard for MD3 or save. Looks like Morata and Lukaku might be worth a look. Belgium more so who need to win MD3 to top group.

    Who else is a MD3 must have: team wise more so than actual players.

    1. ★Kuntheman★
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Bale. German and Italian defense. Payet if you don't have him. Nolito as a cheap enabler.

      1. Horlicks esq.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Russia Wales could stall though from nerves. 0-0 perhaps.

        Payed since day one.

        Nolito could be dropped to test fresh tactic. Morata would be a shame to interrupt his form.

        Have Alli but he seems off the pace so far.

        Vardy, Rakitic, Lewandowski, De Bryne, Alderweirld, Ronaldo, Hamsik maybe?

    2. sloppy
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Wales/England maybe?

  10. ★Kuntheman★
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Nooo that was the moment!

    1. Odikostar
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      You'll never see that one point again

      1. ★Kuntheman★
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        🙁 🙁 🙁

        1. Lynxy
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          Good news: it is just 1 pt

          Bad news: it is 1 pt

          🙁

  11. Optimus.
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Having the best fans in the world tagline is as good as winning the tournament anyway

  12. Bøwstring The Carp
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    First goal came after this, when played was allowed to continue 🙄

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClPT_CzXIAAaFfv.jpg

    1. Camp No No
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Seems fair. 😉

    2. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      I didn't realise it was that bad 😡 . I thought he let Belgium Verm in particular away with a lot of pulling in the first half

  13. Ayew Serious
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Only one way to recover from this. Alcohol and killing people in Gta

    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Stopped reading at people.

      Reported.

      1. ★Kuntheman★
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Hahaha

        1. Epic Fail
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          I hope he enjoys picking up the soap.

          1. Ayew Serious
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            I'll drop it purposely

            1. ★Kuntheman★
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 9 months ago

              Giggity

    2. ★Kuntheman★
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Last two words saved you there

  14. ★Kuntheman★
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Kevin shoot mate

  15. Syd.
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Wow just switched on the telly

    Belgium winning 3-0

    Lukaku with 2 goals

    1. Ayew Serious
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Don't buy him.

      1. Horlicks esq.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        I think he's a good shout.

        1. Ayew Serious
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          Won't play Ireland again.

      2. Horlicks esq.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Those ten points would be lovely with Rui Patricio and a probable no show from Joao Mario today.

      3. Syd.
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        I've been down that long and winding road once to often

    2. Odikostar
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Really?

      1. Syd.
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Yes 🙂

    3. Lynxy
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Buy him. It is not a DGW.

      1. Syd.
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        I'm not playing the Euro fantasy

  16. ★Kuntheman★
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Captaincy change was a net loss of 2 pts, but I felt gutsy, and that's what matters 😉

    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      points matter, bad decision

    2. Lynxy
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      You had fun. That's already pay back.

      1. ★Kuntheman★
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Exactly 🙂

    3. LǝgleSs e|even
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Don't worry mate. Level-ed myself. Good sign of things to come. Keep the faith!

    4. juggos
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      1pt

  17. JLAEST
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Thinking about transfers for next MD. I have Giroud which seems a risk, 0 ITB. If he doesn't start, who should I go for?

    1. sloppy
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Have him as well. Looking at Sturridge/Milik myself

      1. Epic Fail
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Sturridge might not start either.

        1. sloppy
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          True I just have a good feeling about him even as a sub

          1. Epic Fail
            • 15 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            True enough. I always fancy him to score when he gets any kind of minutes.

    2. Camp No No
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Why wouldn't he start?

      1. sloppy
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        France already qualified and I read somewhere that Gignac might start instead

        1. Camp No No
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          France hasn't won the group yet, and definitely want to. I think this is l'équipe's journalists' speculation. May be true too. But, Yohan Micoud made a good point on this: If France wins their group, they'll play their round of 16 match one week from their last group stage match, so for that match, players need not be rested, on the contrary, resting them would mean that they will not have played for 10 days come the round of 16 match, and that is long enough to put them off the rhythm of the tournament.

          I don't know, but I tend to agree with Micoud on this one. No need to rest, better to play the best they have, and for me Giroud has been far more convincing. Well, who know, Deschamps seems to think that the players who are on field when winning goal is scored will play. On that basis, Gignac.

          Anyway, we'll see that before the deadline, so nothing to worry about.

  18. Syd.
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Italy next

    Remember the World Cup in the USA 🙂

    1. ★Kuntheman★
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Gonna lose on PKs with Giaccherini missing 😉

  19. Total Foot 5
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    who is better to start?
    carrasco or mertens

  20. LǝgleSs e|even
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Total pts for KDB?

    1. sloppy
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      6

  21. michudagawd
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Will KDB be credited with an assist?

    1. Eden Hazardous
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Obvio

    2. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Did he assist? If so, yes.

  22. HurriKane
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Belgium Good or Ireland Rubbish ?

    1. Eden Hazardous
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Belgium decent and Ireland rubbish

    2. Syd.
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Bit of both

    3. Camp No No
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Ireland rubbish.

      1. Ayew Serious
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        This

    4. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Belgium look limited they will continue to struggle against teams that sit back .

      1. Ayew Serious
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        They'll aldosterone get outplayed completely if they come up against Spain

        1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          Agreed

  23. puddingbrood
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    It's weird how Ireland park the bus and still get destroyed by counters.

    1. Syd.
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      They were hanging on at the end of the Sweden game

      1. djenzio
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        we were the better team against Sweden and should have taken 3 points, the only reason we didn't was cause we parked the bus after we scored instead of staying on the offensive, I blame Martin O'Neill for that, when we played we were very good and dangerous against Sweden. Now we have to beat Italy to qualify

  24. milanista10
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    What's the ownership of Lukaku in the game?

    1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      It's a bit irritating that you don't know unless you own the player .

      1. milanista10
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Yeah so no one has him on here?

          1. milanista10
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            Haha looks like it.. How is your team doing mate?

            1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
              • 15 Years
              9 years, 9 months ago

              Decent at the min . Ronaldo's performance is going to be important I need him to deliver big

              1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
                • 15 Years
                9 years, 9 months ago

                and yourself ?

                1. milanista10
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 13 Years
                  9 years, 9 months ago

                  Pretty good so far. No Belgium players though so I hope that won't affect things a lot, I also need a good score for Ronaldo and a CS for Patricio 🙂

    2. Mo Mané Mo Problems
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      4%

      1. milanista10
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Sounds good if only 4%.. You got him mate?

        1. Mo Mané Mo Problems
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          Nope. Just log out and make team as a guest. 🙂

          I'm on 125 with Siggy to come.

          1. milanista10
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            Ohh alright.. Hopefully we won't be affected too much by his brace then..

            Good score, Siggy could be a nice differential 🙂 132 here with Ronaldo and Patricio to come

            1. Mo Mané Mo Problems
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 9 months ago

              Nice what is your rank? Must be top 500?

              1. milanista10
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 13 Years
                9 years, 9 months ago

                Thanks. Yeah I was #194 at 136 points. Lost 4 points to get Ronaldo and Patricio in though

  25. VS10_
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Hungary: Király - Lang, Guzmics, Juhász, Kádár - Gera - Dzsudzsák, Nagy, Kleinheisler, Stieber - Priskin

    Iceland unchanged.

    1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      This unchanged fella must be very good 😯

    2. djenzio
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Django unchanged

  26. Je suis le chat
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Just back from the garden, 3:0 defeat and Kaku brace. Shocking. That horrible feeling when you look in the mirror and you realise you're no Cary Grant.

    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Surely you wouldn't want to be Cary Grant right now?

      1. Je suis le chat
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        If Kieran Clark didn't sleep the night after his og vs Sweden, will he ever sleep again after today. Him and MxCarthy must be dropped.

      2. Camp No No
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        ^this. 😆

    2. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      You are more of a ratso rizzo imo 😉

  27. Bøwstring The Carp
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Hungary v Iceland

    No players involved, no interest.

    1. iCon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Rugby on mate! Nice little gap filler 🙂

  28. ebow14
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Who to get out of sigthorsson, sigurdsson and dzudzsak as a punt from the iceland hungary match?

    1. iCon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Dzsudzsak

    2. Eden Hazardous
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      I would punt on Kleinheiser - was impressed by him in the Austrian match

      1. Eden Hazardous
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Kleinheisler*

      2. Mark
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 19 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Yeah, just popped him in the utility slot in Draftkings. I need a Hungary shut-out here.

  29. Je suis le chat
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    In agreement of sorts with the great Dunphy, I reckon Joe Schmidt should be managing the soccer team as well.

    1. djenzio
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      maybe....

      but at the end of the day Belgium are a far superior side in we all knew if they turned up we would get hammered.

  30. Jay_
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Rotation risk in CAPS

      Sommer Patricio
      Rami Dier JUANFRAN GIACHERRINI GUERRIERO
      Payet Alli STANCIU DeBruyne Alaba
      Muller Ronaldo Nolito

      My gut is telling me to do Muller > Bale but with the format of the game I'm worried that I'd be cutting my own throat by selling a starter with all those doubts. What do you reckon?

      A: Muller > Bale
      B: Stanciu > 5.5 max mid
      C: Both of above for a -4
      D: Just wildcard

      1. sloppy
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Follow your gut.

      2. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Juanfran is being a rotation risk is based on people on here not liking him ? . Del Bosque prefers him to Bellerin . Unless he says he is going to rotate heavily I am going to keep him , same goes for Giacherini . Wait for comments from the manager on Stanciu and I assume Gurreiro is going to keep his place unless the manager says otherwise . I find the rotation talk tiresome on here especially when it is not based on anything

        1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          Half the time it feels like if people don't own a player or captain him they start calling him a rotation risk