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Dugout Discussion – Stoke vs Man City

20 August 2016 2578 comments
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Saturday treats us to seven more Gameweek 2 matches, with Stoke entertaining Man City in the early lunchtime kick-off.

Sergio Aguero will be hoping to continue the momentum that’s already harvested six goals in his first four outings under Pep Guardiola.

Having seen Zlatan Ibrahimovic score twice and rack up 13 points last night, though, the Argentine has plenty to do to vindicate his place at the top of this week’s captain poll.

City warmed up for this one with a 5-0 hammering of Steaua Bucharest on Tuesday evening, and their manager has been reluctant to make changes – Pep Guardiola makes just one alteration from that match in Romania, with Nolito replaced by Jesus Navas on the flank.

For the Potters, Shay Given once again deputises for the stricken Jack Butland, who remains sidelined with an ankle injury sustained in training prior to Gameweek 1.

Mark Hughes makes one enforced change for the hosts, with the injured Xherdan Shaqiri repalced by Joe Allen. Bojan is expected to switch to the right flank to allow Allen to tuck in behind Mame Biram Diouf.

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  1. Francescoli
    10 years, 2 months ago

    really need Firmino (c) to show up

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    1. Ha.
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Let's hope so

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    2. TheSteel
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Ballsy. Hope it pays off for you. Thought about it myself but didnt pull the trigger.

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      1. Francescoli
        10 years, 2 months ago

        was always a risk. thought stoke would have done a better job defending at home....

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    3. HVT
      10 years, 2 months ago

      As an owner-you go guy!

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    4. Give Me the Mane
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Yep

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  2. TheBusDriver
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Man of the match is Mike Dean for assisting Aguero's 2 goals. Aguero was almost invisible for 82 minutes.

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    1. Obi-1 Kenobi-0
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Such a sad, bitter man.

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      1. Mull
        10 years, 2 months ago

        2 goals did flatter him though.

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      2. TheBusDriver
        10 years, 2 months ago

        For stating the obvious?

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        1. Mull
          10 years, 2 months ago

          The amount of abuse you're getting is ridiculous. 🙄

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          1. TheBusDriver
            10 years, 2 months ago

            Can't do anything about that 😡

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    2. willl
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Someones salty.

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    3. Tabasco
      10 years, 2 months ago

      So salty

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    4. the axolotl
      10 years, 2 months ago

      almost

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    5. Clump
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Moaner of the match goes to The Bus Driver.

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    6. Supertrooper
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Hah, salt is real here.

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    7. Rolls-Royce
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Why don't you just get Aguero mate? Did he bang your GF?

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      1. v12w12
        10 years, 2 months ago

        Lol

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    8. Epic Fail
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Aye, time to quit FPL.

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    9. ★Kuntheman★
      10 years, 2 months ago

      🙂 it hurts, doesn't it?

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    10. TheSteel
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Non owner alert

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    11. Syd.
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Boys - Never argue with Stupidity

      You will never win

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    12. devils advocate
      10 years, 2 months ago

      You know what they say about bus drivers don't you? Lol.

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    13. Godot - Fashanu Zealand
      10 years, 2 months ago

      I haven't seen such a salty poster since Breadbin left us

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    14. Worzel Gummidge
      10 years, 2 months ago

      You really are a grade A pathetic loser. Bore off, mug.

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      1. Mull
        10 years, 2 months ago

        Steady on. His post isn't that bad.

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    15. Rainer
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Why wouldn't you own Kun? Hahaha

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    16. MrZ
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Better not comment against kun anymore mate... most people here have kun & some may captained him, they dont care where the goals come from....

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  3. Rolls-Royce
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Kun should easily make 3 BAPS. Striker bps > Mid bps for goals.

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    1. devils advocate
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Why are you guys even questioning his BAPS, lol?

      He's miles ahead.

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  4. Clump
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Kun keeps baps
    19 points ahead.

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  5. KOLASINA(C)
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Aguero 57
    Nolito 38
    Otamendi 27

    The King.

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  6. Sooda
    10 years, 2 months ago

    GaryLineker
    It's 3-1 to @ManCity and who would ever have thought that Nolito would have more of an end product than Navas?

    ...anyone who has folllowed both their careers

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    1. Thomas Magnum
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Pure genius

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    2. Supertrooper
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Must be a sacrastic/troll comment, everyone who has ever watched football could tell you that Nolito has a better end product, heck the super old dude in my sunday league has better end product than Navas.

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  7. Syd.
    10 years, 2 months ago

    They said "Lets see how Pep Guardiola handles a windy day in Stoke".

    I think he has answered that question.

    😆 😆 😆 😆

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    1. Ha.
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Nolito against tired legs

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    2. Oldman Unathletic
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Emphatically.

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  8. HVT
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Will Zlatan always play the 90 whereas Kun could be subbed around 70+ ?

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    1. The Donald
      10 years, 2 months ago

      These kinds of questions are hilarious

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      1. HVT
        10 years, 2 months ago

        I don't think so Donald, it's a factor around CL games and maybe a consideration for the armband.

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        1. The Donald
          10 years, 2 months ago

          Aguero might play a few minutes less around CL games yes, but he's also a better goalscorer than Zlatan...

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          1. HVT
            10 years, 2 months ago

            * in your opinion, if you look at both players stats you will see that Ibra has scored more goals in his career to date than Aguero, granted Kun has time to catch up but that statement imho is in correct.

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    2. Thomas Magnum
      10 years, 2 months ago

      No, I think CL played a part

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      1. Podge
        10 years, 2 months ago

        thats the point no ?

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        1. HVT
          10 years, 2 months ago

          This, Pep protecting his prize asset when needed, whereas I don't think Zlat will play Europa/Carling cup etc.

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    3. TheSteel
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Naaah. Really will depend in midweek stuff

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    4. ktk_interista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 2 months ago

      More often than not

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    5. ShaneRyan
      10 years, 2 months ago

      You are dumb, Kun played3 games in 7 days

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      1. HVT
        10 years, 2 months ago

        So did Stones but he wasn't subbed, oh and no need for the dumb bit, I take offence as I am clever.

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    6. devils advocate
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Yep, best you stay clear of Kun, lol.

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      1. HVT
        10 years, 2 months ago

        I'm talking in terms of (c) options around CL, it's called doing a little homework.
        It could be a factor of signicance worth noting, but yea, you stay clear of that sort of thinking.

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        1. devils advocate
          10 years, 2 months ago

          Lol, I did plenty of homework champ. 😉

          That's why I started the season with both Kun and Ibra and captained one of them each over the past 2 gws, lol.

          Thanks for the tip though. 😉

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          1. HVT
            10 years, 2 months ago

            Well played, so did I-how you doing overall/in the past?

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            1. devils advocate
              10 years, 2 months ago

              Thanks. I was ranked around 45k before today's matches, but I don't think rank matters until ALL chips are used as they skew rankings so much.

              How about you?

              And is that King Keane in your grav?

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              1. HVT
                10 years, 2 months ago

                Yes, my idol really tho PP Could emulate him, I like a tough all action player.
                200k after Shaw/Ibra but Kun(c)/Grey so far should see a decent climb

                704 last year.
                2 - 1.5k finishes in the past too, so not too shabby.

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  9. Giovanni Giorgio
    10 years, 2 months ago

    47p from 4 players. This round has started nicely 😀

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  10. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
    10 years, 2 months ago

    How many bonus points does Stones get for being man of the match ?

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    1. ★Kuntheman★
      10 years, 2 months ago

      A whole 0

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    2. n-doggg
      10 years, 2 months ago

      None

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    3. Epic Fail
      10 years, 2 months ago

      3 from the Man in the Stand.

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    4. Thomas Magnum
      10 years, 2 months ago

      It's not about the points it's about that Sky Sports recognition

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    5. PDM TOP 1,000 any Season kr…
      10 years, 2 months ago

      🙂

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    6. mattk lfc
      10 years, 2 months ago

      5.... on Sky

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    7. devils advocate
      10 years, 2 months ago

      27 from memory. 😉

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  11. Plagued by indecision
    10 years, 2 months ago

    53 with 6 to play. Probably end up on about 60 then.

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    1. 1569Tippins
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 2 months ago

      69 (grow up)

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  12. GREENDREAMS11
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Delighted I decided to keep Nolito when I knew he was dropping value. Wasn't so happy earlier when he was on the bench though.

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    1. HVT
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Nice-score?

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    2. Jazz!
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Nice.

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    3. Epic Fail
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Grass is green.
      My farts stink.

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    4. Garlana
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Nice, shame nobody knows if he's playing or not...pep maybe...

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      1. GREENDREAMS11
        10 years, 2 months ago

        This, worked out ok today

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  13. PDM TOP 1,000 any Season kr…
    10 years, 2 months ago

    @GW1 World No1 WTF Captain Martial !!!

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  14. Barrier Freeman
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Nolito owners assemble!

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    1. Luca Toni
      10 years, 2 months ago

      pure luck ...

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  15. The Royal Robin
    10 years, 2 months ago

    So I turned off pretty much straight after Nolito actually came on. Did he take his goals well? How did he look?

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    1. MesQueUnClub
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 2 months ago

      2 empty nets

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    2. Thomas Magnum
      10 years, 2 months ago

      He hit 2 world class bangers

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    3. Max Gradel to the grave
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Two gifts, still had to be in position though.

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    4. 824545201
      10 years, 2 months ago

      2 tap ins.

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      1. Andy_Social
        10 years, 2 months ago

        Even Navas would have scored those 😉

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  16. n-doggg
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Latest bap predictions

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    1. Syd.
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Kun 3
      Nolito 2
      Otamendi 1

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  17. Francescoli
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Any news on a Gargatron update?

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  18. Lateriser 12
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 2 months ago

    City were quite flat in that second half.

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    1. ktk_interista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 2 months ago

      2nd game running I felt the scoreline flattered them. They start well and then faded away. Its like Pep is used to Bundesliga where if he is 2-0 up, the game ends 5 or 6 nil. Would be interesting to see them against the big boys.

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    2. Respect My Authoritah
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Yep. Stoke played well. Pep isn't going to get an easy ride this season. Lacking the players for his system

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      1. ktk_interista
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 2 months ago

        This. Apart from Silva and maybe KDB, there are too many mispasses for his liking.

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        1. Andy_Social
          10 years, 2 months ago

          Still early days, players learning the system. They will get even better.

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      2. devils advocate
        10 years, 2 months ago

        Sorry I have to disagree. If that was Stoke playing well I'd hate to see when they play badly.

        I think it was much more a case of tired legs from City in the second half, as they could have scored so many more even in that second half if not for some tired looking touches in the final third.

        Stoke gave them the space to do as they pleased, and this could have easily been 6 or 7-1.

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  19. Bøwstring The Carp
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Odds on Firmino getting 13+ points?

    🙄

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    1. n-doggg
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Slim to none

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    2. Puyol Pants Up
      10 years, 2 months ago

      I believe \o/

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    3. ktk_interista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 2 months ago

      A goal and max baps gets you 10 or 11 which is close enough. A goal and assists guarantees it. not far fetched

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      1. Andy_Social
        10 years, 2 months ago

        Nope. The Studge factor.

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  20. BobbyV
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Hazard (C) not looking too clever now. Oh well...

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    1. The Royal Robin
      10 years, 2 months ago

      He hasn't played yet.

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      1. Jairzinho
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 2 months ago

        Aguero and Ibra have set a high benchmark though, is obviously what he means.

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    2. Podge
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Leave it there for next week though

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      1. Andy_Social
        10 years, 2 months ago

        Zlatan v HuLOL?

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    3. devils advocate
      10 years, 2 months ago

      The way this gw is going there's a good chance all the favourite cap options will score the same and cancel each other out!

      The LOL's if that happens will astronomical!

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  21. Big Bad Diego
    10 years, 2 months ago

    FFS now Dele Alli benched?? What does this mean for us Dele owners? Should I think of transferring?

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    1. Respect My Authoritah
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Yes. Sell him

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    2. TheSteel
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Means he wont get the 2 pts for playing 60 + minutes unless hes subbed on before the 30th minute.

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    3. The Fantastic Mr Fox
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Or he could come on from bench like Nolito and score 2. Hold you horses 🙂

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    4. n-doggg
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Already gone to lamela last night to facilitate ibra!

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      1. Big Bad Diego
        10 years, 2 months ago

        Thinking of doing the exact same thing. Shame on myself for not transferring before the price rises, but oh well

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      2. southernpacific
        10 years, 2 months ago

        Yep my move last night

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    5. Andy_Social
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Let's see if Kane/Janssen up front works. Dele doesn't fit into that system.

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  22. The Fantastic Mr Fox
    10 years, 2 months ago

    So does Nolito cover Aguero on basis of VORP? Ibra(c) with Nolito/Sterling seems to be solid 😀

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    1. The Donald
      10 years, 2 months ago

      He won't start every game unfortunately

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  23. Lallana's Bananas
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Negredo or Defoe?

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    1. The Donald
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Defoe is actually decent so him

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    2. HuttonDressedasLahm
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Nolito

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  24. MartialMatas
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Projected rank 912 at the moment. what is life???

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    1. L S P
      10 years, 2 months ago

      idk - tell us in GW38

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  25. trequartista
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Guys any update on why Alli was dropped? Surely his position isn't at risk.
    Also surprised Bolasie isn't starting.

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    1. DarylT
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Poch has said he will start with his best eleven and since Janssen played well, and he can't drop Kane, he's going to drop Alli because he cant play on either wing like Eriksen or lamela and not a DM like wanyama or dirt

      So yes, if Janssen scores tonight u should get rid of Alli or at least start worrying

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      1. DarylT
        10 years, 2 months ago

        *dier

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        1. L S P
          10 years, 2 months ago

          dirt is better

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      2. trequartista
        10 years, 2 months ago

        Cheers for this.
        Was thinking about Dele>Bolasie this morning only.

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  26. Pariße
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Everton with a 3-5-2-ish line-up, I was suspicious Koeman was planning to do that, when he was in the market for 2 extra CBs.

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    1. Ziro
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Who is the 3rd CB today?

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      1. Pariße
        10 years, 2 months ago

        Holgate

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      2. 824545201
        10 years, 2 months ago

        Holgate

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    2. RMA
      10 years, 2 months ago

      I'm expecting Kone with "back injury" -> Everton.

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      1. Pariße
        10 years, 2 months ago

        Indeed. Would be a great FPL option too.

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  27. FC LAVAMAN
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Decisions decisions... Which game to watch?

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  28. Jafoole_88
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Nolito essential. Just transfered him in for Hazard

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    1. n-doggg
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Good trollage

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  29. Syd.
    10 years, 2 months ago

    I am off to the barbers 🙂

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  30. AppleDunk
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Anyone know why Alli is not starting?

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    1. n-doggg
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Poch made some comment about euro fatigue

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