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16 September 2016 1818 comments
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A second Friday kick-off of the season and a huge cauldron of a fixture.

When Chelsea meet Liverpool at the Bridge, things are rarely dull. We can normally bank on goals aplenty and for Diego Costa to find a way to court controversy.

Being fair, he’s managed to achieve that every match so far, though he’s also managed to notch either a goal or an assist in each of his four starts – making it easy to forgive his little indiscretions. For now.

Antonio Conte will be looking for more of the same as he puts out a Chelsea line-up that includes a second debut for David Luiz. He steps into the back four with John Terry nursing an ankle injury.

Liverpool are forced into a change of their own – the late revelation that Roberto Firmino would miss out with a “minor” groin injury opens the way for his compatriot Philippe Coutinho to make a return.

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  1. Your Mum's Athletic
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Pains me as a Man U fan but that is an exceptional first half for Liverpool, work rate, press, incisive passing, everything.

    1. Zombie
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Giggity

    2. Worzel Gummidge
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Chelsea having been kak tbf

      1. Your Mum's Athletic
        10 years, 1 month ago

        because Liverpool have played them off the park

    3. RoysCallerAnne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Yep, looking super fit too.
      The 1 game a week might be crucial for top 4.

      1. Your Mum's Athletic
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Absolutely - really think Arsenal gonna miss out top 4 this season

    4. Optimus.
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Nice one mate

      1. Your Mum's Athletic
        10 years, 1 month ago

        you look awesome, even with Milner left back 🙂

  2. Revival
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 1 month ago

    So it won't be just Arsenal that Liverpool tear to pieces this season then

    1. Matamatics
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Or Leicester

  3. Ziro
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Kanté not doing what he was bought for. Trying too many shots and long passes.

    1. Over Midwicket
      10 years, 1 month ago

      His distribution is really poor. Great at breaking up play but struggles when he gets the ball

    2. devils advocate
      10 years, 1 month ago

      To be fair his defence is giving him a lot to do on his own by playing so deep with little support from his other mids.

      Can't just blame that Kante for this performance.

  4. Magic Man
    10 years, 1 month ago

    So with firmino injured; who do i get on my wildcard instead? repost

    1. Over Midwicket
      10 years, 1 month ago

      He'll be back next week

    2. Sánchez
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Firmino

    3. Swan - Villa Proud
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Still Firmino

  5. Over Midwicket
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Funny, I repeatedly posted ybat Hazard was finished but got laughed at.

    For 10.2 mil ish he's pretty useless. So happy to get rid of him on WC.

    1. Worzel Gummidge
      10 years, 1 month ago

      People will still laugh at this post.

    2. Fitzy.
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Can't work out why you have him at all if you knew he was useless.

      1. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
        10 years, 1 month ago

        This.

      2. nobwak
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Well said

      3. Over Midwicket
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Did you read my post? Got rid of him on WC

        1. Fitzy.
          10 years, 1 month ago

          Which implies that you had him to get rid of him doesn't it?

    3. Eskimooo
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Still laughing at your stupidity mid wicket

  6. Matamatics
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 1 month ago

    I have no idea who to bring in on the wildcard for this Liverpool team

    1. Rafa is a Geordie
      10 years, 1 month ago

      I'm thinking of doubling up on Firminho and Mané

    2. jungle
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Lallana for me if Firmino out for a while

    3. Swan - Villa Proud
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Firmino, maybe Lovren

    4. Scholes Balls
      10 years, 1 month ago

      firmino

  7. tm245
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Maybe the midweek European match is getting to Chelsea...

    1. Matamatics
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Jesus

      1. devils advocate
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Not even he can help them out of this mess.

    2. Fred54
      10 years, 1 month ago

      To both sets of fans this is their 'midweek European night'....

  8. Sánchez
    10 years, 1 month ago

    1-2 with Hazard goal Azpi assist and Costa red card please fpl gods

  9. Optimus.
    10 years, 1 month ago

    I'd love to put Matip in but the clean sheets would probably dry up

    1. Matamatics
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Thats pure filth

    2. Ziro
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Looooool

    3. Your Mum's Athletic
      10 years, 1 month ago

      giggity?

    4. George Sillett
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Do you prefer love at the back ?

  10. Haggis
    10 years, 1 month ago

    William YC btw

  11. Cooper123
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Gray falling means I need to make my planned transfers tonight.

    Gray to Aguero
    Sanchez to Snodgrass

    With enough left for Barkley to Firmino.

    Should I go for it even though tomorrow's games haven't been played yet? Will be priced out of it after tonight.

  12. TheBusDriver
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Shouldn't have kept Costa or Hazard on WC.

    1. TheBusDriver
      10 years, 1 month ago

      (If they don't score)

      1. George Sillett
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Inspirational.

  13. Frank Black
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Liverpool is phenomenal even without Firmino. If they play well everyone in this team is able to score(nothing from Manè and Sturridge so far for example).

    1. Sánchez
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Are phenomenal

      1. Frank Black
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Liverpool is "a team", therefore singular.

        1. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
          10 years, 1 month ago

          A team is plural. Sorry.

          1. Cok3y5murf
            10 years, 1 month ago

            A team is singular.

    2. how now brown cow
      10 years, 1 month ago

      They are a good team. Need to get more consistent.

      Should make top 4 if defence can bond. I think Matip looks a quality signing.

  14. The Chosen One...
    10 years, 1 month ago

    i will never know how Burnley beat Liverpool....

    1. tm245
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Made me rage ship Firmino, too.

    2. bojack
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Because they just defended on the edge of their own six yard box and watched Sturridge and Coutinho fire shots over from outside the box all afternoon.

    3. Dirty Harry
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Liverpool switched off in the final touch. They have a habit of that against teams that would seem to be an easier fixture.

    4. devils advocate
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Because Burnley successfully executed a game plan that Chelsea haven't been able to since Jose was in charge and loved by the masses.

  15. Ziro
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Cavani 4 goals 😀

    1. Wilshere Knowledge
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Bullet dodged. 😛

  16. Dr Dream
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Hazard looks about as interested as he did last season. He's been kak.

    1. Sánchez
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Hazard is only good when he's at home against weak opposition

      1. davies
        10 years, 1 month ago

        🙄 😆

    2. devils advocate
      10 years, 1 month ago

      I bet his thigh hurts. 🙂

  17. Dušan Citizen
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Kante has 99 qualities. But shooting ain't one of those.

    1. devils advocate
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Chelsea got 99 problems but the Luiz ain't one.

      Hit me!

  18. Colonel Shoe 肝池
    10 years, 1 month ago

    hmmm firms would have been a good captain shout next week............

  19. nobwak
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Dear oh dear.
    2 seconds ago Hazard was essential and Lukaku was a troll. One good game from Lukaku and one bad half from Hazard, and it's all "Shall I ditch Hazard for *X* and get Lukaku in for *Y*??" on here.

    1. Sánchez
      10 years, 1 month ago

      3 bad halves

      1. nobwak
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Point still stands. It's pathetic.

        1. Sánchez
          10 years, 1 month ago

          Form is thee most important factor in fpl though

    2. Fred54
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Yeah people are such Nobwak's on here...

    3. George Sillett
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Well said mate . Knee jerking morons.

      1. RoysCallerAnne
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 1 month ago

        I'm not a knee jerking moron. Bit harsh. Everyone plays the game their own way, let em at it

        1. George Sillett
          10 years, 1 month ago

          Apologies wasn't referring to your approach but more to those on here who change their opinions like the wind - of which there are many.

    4. how now brown cow
      10 years, 1 month ago

      To be fair if no one ever bought or sold anyone it would be a bit dull.

      1. RoysCallerAnne
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 1 month ago

        This!

      2. nobwak
        10 years, 1 month ago

        I agree. But there's buying & selling, and there's going from calling a player essential/a troll to shipping them out/scrambling to get them in.

        1. nobwak
          10 years, 1 month ago

          After 1 good or bad game

    5. Supersonic
      10 years, 1 month ago

      I agree it's ridiculous.. well said.

    6. RoysCallerAnne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 1 month ago

      He's just one of very many FPL players to have a good start to the season.
      He could well get 200 points but maybe not in the next month.

      FPL is fluid. Gotta be proactive

    7. devils advocate
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Welcome to the message board. You must be new here, lol.

    8. Pino
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Its a question about value vs price. When you invest £10.3 in Hazard you expect him to deliver better than other midfilders. You coud easly pick a £9.0 midfilder that has better fixtures and invest £1.3 in a Arsenal/Spurs/Everton defender that has great fixtures. You want most value for your money in the next few games and right now Hazard is not worth it.

  20. Revival
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Henderson goal looks like something Henry scored in his prime

    1. devils advocate
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Henderson wishes he had even a little fingers worth of Henry's talent, lol.

  21. davies
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Chelsea attack, Liverpool attack, Arsenal attack..

    Which one misses out?

    1. Fred54
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Man Utd attack?

      1. davies
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Ibra is a lock in mine and most teams

    2. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Not Liverpool for sure, toss up between if you think the Arsenal or Chelsea attack wills score more goals over the coming week

    3. devils advocate
      10 years, 1 month ago

      The one with the harder fixtures.

      I think this season the pricing of players means a different tactic must be used, and that is to rotate premiums according to fixtures.

      I think this season it's going to be harder to rely on perceived season keepers and watching price changes and fixtures is going to be key to scoring maximum points.

      I think there's only two players in the league who will be fixture proof and none of them are mids, therefore my tactic will be to rotate mids according to fixtures.

      It's not a fool proof tactic but I'm struggling to see another way this season so far.

  22. LewanGOALski
    10 years, 1 month ago

    May actually go with Sanchez & Bolasie over Hazard & Cazorla now...

    Early thoughts..?

  23. Mookty
    10 years, 1 month ago

    What do you think of this first draft of a wildcard:

    Foster (Jaku)
    Valencia, Walker, Baines (Smith, Holebas)
    Coutinho, Antonio, Cazorla, Capoue (Zaha)
    Aguero, Ibrahimovic, Benteke

    £0.8m ITB to upgrade to Mane if needed this week.

    1. Matamatics
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Walker is a rotation risk with trippier would downgrade to spend more in mid

      1. Mookty
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Really? Hmm oh dear. I think I got caught out with that last year. I'll adjust my team. Thanks

  24. itwaswritten
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Bye at this site deleting my comment. Homophobic!

    No wonder football players never come out.

    1. Fitzy.
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Bye.

    2. Sánchez
      10 years, 1 month ago

      I think your comment was seen as homophobic actually.

    3. Worzel Gummidge
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Bye bye. Dont let the door hit you on your way out.

    4. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Our world here suddenly is a better place.

    5. George Sillett
      10 years, 1 month ago

      You won't be missed.

  25. Too Mane Men
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Hazard has 45 mins to stay in my WC

  26. Frank Black
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Interesting how both Lovren and Luiz are as dangerous in the opponents' box as they are in their own.

  27. Your Mum's Athletic
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Hazard against Swansea never seemed to really get forward when Chelsea attacked, it's happening again today. Something to monitor, can see why owners (myself included) are concerned but to get rid so quickly is knee jerky at it's finest

  28. The Gambler.
    10 years, 1 month ago

    We're different class just now. Only City look as good imo.

    Saying that its only HT.

    Worry for me would be if Chelsea bring Costa on.

    1. Lawrø
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Our season 😎

    2. ST United
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Burnley

    3. RED PILL
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Get In, a win against Chelski feels good as beating Utd.

  29. Pompel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 1 month ago

    With this performance against Chelsea - we just know they will slip on the banana skin that is Hull at home .....

  30. Chucky
    10 years, 1 month ago

    How's the mood in the Hazard(c)ers camp? 🙁

    1. George Sillett
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Pillock comment.