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19 October 2016 2367 comments
Paul Paul
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We turn our backs on Gameweek 8 with the regular Digest treatment, checking in on Watford’s Greek wing-back, the blossoming cast of talent within Eddie Howe’s ranks and the mystery surrounding the big investment in a prospering Potter.

The Player

Only last week, we rolled out a Burning Question on the merits of investing in premium priced defensive options at Arsenal and Tottenham as a result of improved returns in north London.

But, seven days later, Watford’s Jose Holebas’ 15-point haul away to Middlesbrough served a timely reminder of the value still available for our five-man defences.

A switch to 5-4-1 allowed Watford to chalk up a first clean sheet of the season as the Greek international netted for the second time this term.

After eight rounds of fixtures, he leads all defenders for goal attempts and shots on target.

Moving onto 31 points – on a par with Spurs pair Toby Alderweireld and Jan Vertonghen – Holebas has earned over 44,000 new owners this week and climbed to 4.6 price point in Fantasy Premier League.

While his place on the Suspension Tightrope is frustrating, investing in the Hornets’ defender could continue to reap reward as Walter Mazzarri’s men face up to Swansea City, Hull City, Stoke and West Brom over the next six Gameweeks.

Certainly, his form, coupled with the lack of clean sheets for Arsenal and Spurs, offered food for thought for those planning on heavy defensive investment.

The Team

Bournemouth’s 6-1 home thrashing of Hull City highlighted the confidence levels currently sweeping around the Vitality Stadium.

Following back-to-back home wins over Everton and West Brom, the Cherries third straight victory in front of their own fans served up Fantasy returns right across the pitch.

There’s no doubt that Junior Stanislas was the star performer.

A 21-point haul means he’s racked up three goals and a trio of assists in three matches since being shifted onto the right flank. It’s worth noting, though, that despite converting a penalty, Stanislas remains behind Callum Wilson for spot-kick duties, according to the striker himself.

In defence, Charlie Daniels’ raids down the left brought home a goal and assist, with centre-half Steve Cook also finding the net. Factor in a couple of clean sheets in the last three home matches and that pair are now joint-fifth amongst FPL defenders.

The in-form Callum Wilson strengthened his claim as a cut-price frontman with a goal and assist – he’s now scored in three of the last five Gameweeks.

There are options aplenty on offer amongst Howe’s ever-improving unit right now and while a weekend visit from Tottenham has the potential to disrupt their momentum, the following three fixtures – against Middlesbrough, Sunderland and Stoke – could see them plunder the points again.

The Talking Point

With over 120,000 transfers in already this Gameweek, Joe Allen has become the most unexpected of sought after Fantasy assets.

A summer move to Stoke seems to have transformed the former defensive midfielder. Recently shifted into a central support berth by Mark Hughes, the impish Welshman has netted four times in the last three fixtures and is undisputedly the Potters’ in-form player ahead of a very favourable schedule.

At such a budget price point, Allen’s position in our squads is a tricky one.

As we’ve seen already this season with Etienne Capoue, there’s almost a reluctance to start our cut-priced midfielders, as if, regardless of form, they should be no more than back-up options off the bench.

Furthermore, can we really rely on a player who has never scored more than four times in a single season?

Certainly, Allen’s current conversion rate of 40% looks unsustainable and the player even acknowledges his own surprise at his tally so far.

As discussed in last night’s ScoutCast, Allen’s current role as a Fantasy asset is troubling.

Does he really have the staying power to provide a valid fourth midfielder option? Given the current landscape, with the likes of Adam Lallana and Theo Walcott offering extreme value in the sub-8.0 bracket, that seems a questionable strategy.

Equally, if a shift to 3-5-2 is behind Allen’s popularity, you have to question whether that’s a wise move given the apparent value offered by the aforementioned Callum Wilson and Southampton’s Charlie Austin as third strikers.

We’ve already seen a move to invest big funds in our defences questioned by Holebas’ returns – making it all the more puzzling as to why active FPL managers are so quick to swoop for Allen.

Perhaps the Welshman is being seen purely as a money-maker; a means of generating 0.1 or more following the stagnation of Capoue.

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    1. Delhidynamo
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Don't play the only striker you have capable of taking chances as well as the other team's guys and then complaint about missing opportunities when they come your way(and them taking theirs)

      1. RustyBz
        10 years, 19 days ago

        to be fair, Pep's plan worked very well, up until the Bravo red

    2. The Fantastic Mr Fox
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Barca scored as much as they created.
      City neither created enough, nor did they score

      https://mobile.twitter.com/Caley_graphics/status/788849064066576384/photo/1

      1. RustyBz
        10 years, 19 days ago

        Barca's first 3 goals came from City's individual mistakes, not like they created the chances from good play

  1. CloudSky
    10 years, 19 days ago

    Obviously just tinkering with too much time on hands but IMO, this could easily at least match anything you can build with Kun.

    4.5/4.0
    6.0/5.0/4.5/4.5/4.1
    Sanchez/KDB/Firmino/Walcott/4.4
    Costa/Lukaku/Austin

    1. TheTinman
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Still rather Kun

      1. CloudSky
        10 years, 19 days ago

        Im with you, but need to keep an open mind. Pep rotations, low confidence, high price. We`ll see.

  2. Lone Wolf FPL
    10 years, 19 days ago

    Let me put it this way. I have 3 defenders which I won't rotate. All 3 are attacking so even if they're facing a strong team I will still use them.
    In that case is owning Amat (in case of injury, cards etc) and 3.9 defender is that bad?
    I can use this 0.6 to upgrade my front line.

    1. TheTinman
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Not worth it

    2. Dr Dream
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Agreed....I have Valencia Walker Clyne Amat and McCauley.

      McCauley > 3.9 soon. Valencia could just as easy be Azpi or Bellerin or somebody similar. It's working ok so far. My last defensive transfer was Baines > Clyne but they'll be few and far between.

  3. TheTinman
    10 years, 19 days ago

    Bench one

    A) Allen
    B) Snodgrass
    C) Aguero

    1. CloudSky
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Obviously C.

    2. The Left Duke #3
      10 years, 19 days ago

      This is a trick question right?

    3. RustyBz
      10 years, 19 days ago

      B

    4. Live Lad
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Are you Pep Guardiola?

    5. reeceyboy
      10 years, 18 days ago

      a

  4. vickyz r3d d3vil$ !!!
    10 years, 19 days ago

    Felt too punty, so jus took -4 to do janssen & deeney ======>>> slimani(c) & zaza .!!!

    Both of em play at home against worst defences...its now or never for them...might even backfire and i could jump out of 100 k with this..

    I love doing such crappy things...

    1. CloudSky
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Id have Slimani in my team every day, if Ranieri didnt prioritise CL. That PL rotation is whats putting me off. Zaza on the other hand...not for me.

      1. vickyz r3d d3vil$ !!!
        10 years, 19 days ago

        Slimani was unlucky not to be on the scoresheet in the champions league game..he's sure to start this week as next euro match falls only on nov 3

        bilic spoke highly about zaza after crystal palace game..they are facing sunderland this week and it is his best chance to break the duck

    2. RustyBz
      10 years, 19 days ago

      very rogue moves

    3. The Left Duke #3
      10 years, 19 days ago

      You've lost it son

    4. Dark_Mata
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Slimani is a season keeper for me

    5. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      10 years, 19 days ago

      stopped reading when you mentioned zaza

  5. _Gunner
    10 years, 19 days ago

    Current front line: 2FTs, 0.0 itb

    Capoue Lallana Sanchez Bolasie Fletcher
    Aguero Ibra Lukaku

    Which is better?

    A- Ibra + Fletcher > Rashford + Walcott
    B- Ibra + Fletcher > Wilson + Walcott
    C- Other transfer?

    1. CloudSky
      10 years, 19 days ago

      B.

    2. RustyBz
      10 years, 19 days ago

      B) but I'd prefer Deeney personally

    3. The Mighty I
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 19 days ago

      B

    4. Alnair
      10 years, 19 days ago

      B

      1. HellasLEAF
        10 years, 19 days ago

        B

    5. joersherman
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Austin?

  6. The Mighty I
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 19 days ago

    Heaton Pickford
    Walker Coleman Holebas Smith Amat
    Sanchez Firmino Antonio Bolasie Capoue
    Aguero Lukaku Benteke

    1 FT
    Considering just a straight swap of Bolasie > Snodgrass
    Or is it worth taking it hit to get Wally?

    1. Dark_Mata
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Wally

      1. HellasLEAF
        10 years, 19 days ago

        mmm, maybe hit ya. and I have Snod

  7. melvinmbabazi
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 19 days ago

    What to do this week? 1FT 0.0 ITB
    Thinking about Capoue to Allen but who to bench if i do?

    Foster-Pickford
    Valencia-Pieters-McAuley-Holebas-Amat
    Walcott-Sterling-Capoue-Firmino-Snodgrass
    Aguero-Ibra-Lukaku

    Thanks

    1. PURPLE-RONNIE
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Save your FT and start snodgrass

      1. melvinmbabazi
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 19 days ago

        Cheers

    2. Kante Be Bothered
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Do you really plan on ever starting Allen? Might as well go for someone for Fletcher for the profit

      1. melvinmbabazi
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 19 days ago

        Might play AOA this week with him

  8. PURPLE-RONNIE
    10 years, 19 days ago

    Boring question I know but who would u start lads?

    A: capoue
    B: puncheon

    1. HellasLEAF
      10 years, 19 days ago

      am thinking Punch

    2. Miro
      10 years, 19 days ago

      close, B imo

  9. Mini Mane Mo
    10 years, 19 days ago

    9 pressers today (BST times): selected times

    1000 - West Ham
    1200 - Liverpool
    1230 - Spurs
    1300 - Leicester
    1400 - Everton

    Please add others if known

  10. Professor Red
    10 years, 19 days ago

    Not many elite players left here anymore 🙁

    Back in the day their used to be so many good players posting regularly.

    Now its just me and a few others.

    1. Fitzy.
      10 years, 19 days ago

      You Aren't One

      1. HellasLEAF
        10 years, 19 days ago

        ahem. (been here a while but infrequent)

    2. Boydinho
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Smug.

    3. Dark_Mata
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Elite?! Lol

      1. Dark_Mata
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 19 days ago

        I finished 602nd... does that make me Elite?

    4. RustyBz
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Wow, at least share your team link

    5. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      10 years, 19 days ago

      this post makes no sense on so many levels.

      1. Professor Red
        10 years, 19 days ago

        Why not?

    6. Dre
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 19 days ago

      The arrogance on this site is palpable

      1. Dark_Mata
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 19 days ago

        It certainly is

      2. Dark_Mata
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 19 days ago

        You've posted some consistent stats Andre, well played

    7. George Sillett
      10 years, 18 days ago

      You certainly are in a class of your own.

  11. Bulldogs FC
    10 years, 19 days ago

    Who to bench?

    A) Snodgrass
    B) Capoue
    C) C.Wilson

    Rest of team:
    Lloris, Pickford
    Mustafi, Stones, Smith (Friend, Evans)
    Firmino, Walcott, Sanchez,...
    Aguero, Deeney,....

    1. HellasLEAF
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Clearly B

    2. Dark_Mata
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Beasy

    3. reeceyboy
      10 years, 18 days ago

      B)

  12. HellasLEAF
    10 years, 19 days ago

    I've had Foster all season but after getting beaten last week for the 2nd week by keeper cleanie starting to wonder.

    Think I'll use my free on keeper up grade but question is, which bigger tier keeper to have??

    1. Kante Be Bothered
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Karius

    2. Dark_Mata
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 19 days ago

      If you want to amend your money de gea is in ridiculous form right now.

      1. Dark_Mata
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 19 days ago

        Amend?! Spend

        1. HellasLEAF
          10 years, 19 days ago

          Ya, I don't know if United right will keep up these cleanies though. Was initial reaction

          1. Dark_Mata
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            10 years, 19 days ago

            I think Jose is perfecting his defence so will be frugal

          2. Dark_Mata
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            10 years, 19 days ago

            I reckon he's got a 10pt GW coming up sometime soon

            1. HellasLEAF
              10 years, 19 days ago

              Karius is intriguing though. and like the price

              1. Dark_Mata
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                10 years, 19 days ago

                True

  13. Egyptian Giza
    10 years, 19 days ago

    Should I save the FT and risk that collins or baines have to play (if not I'd be playing with 10 players)

    1. Dark_Mata
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Is Collins safe and fit?

      1. Egyptian Giza
        10 years, 19 days ago

        It's more of "is he gonna start" cos last game he didn't play

        1. Dark_Mata
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          10 years, 19 days ago

          Hmm. Then it's a risk. Maybe use the ft

  14. 1justlookin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 19 days ago

    Anyone looking at allen for their 4th midfielder? My rival has him and capoue. Can he really sustain this?

    Feels like hes too expensive for a 5th Midfielder :-/

    1. Dr Dream
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Got him in this week and playing AOA. Anybody against Hull right now seems like a good idea. Bench after that.

    2. FrankieTheGent
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Have Allen and Snodgrass as alternating 4th mids depending on fixture

  15. United84
    10 years, 19 days ago

    Help guys!

    What do u think??

    A) Aguero & Mane

    or

    B) Costa & KDB

    1. anharaia
      10 years, 19 days ago

      if you already have aguero keep and watch this week and decide next GW
      if you are on WC i'd go Costa KDB

    2. Dark_Mata
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 19 days ago

      A

    3. Kante Be Bothered
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Why not all 4?

      1. United84
        10 years, 19 days ago

        Would have to make too many transfers for that and used WC a few weeks ago! Have Sanchez and Lukaku too

  16. anharaia
    10 years, 19 days ago

    need your opinions!, so would you do

    A. 352 and get allen for Capoue (Yes i'm riding the wagon...)
    B. switch to 343 and sell Costa diomande to Austin Tekkers
    C. Keep FT re balance next week...

    1. Dark_Mata
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 19 days ago

      B

      1. anharaia
        10 years, 19 days ago

        thanks, but forgot to mention, do you think it's worth a hit too?

        1. Dark_Mata
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          10 years, 19 days ago

          Tough one, close call. Maybe

  17. Gaztafari
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 19 days ago

    Holebas (swa) or Pieters (hul)?

    1. RustyBz
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Holebas

    2. Dark_Mata
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Holebas easily

    3. Aubaaaaa
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Pieters. Probably higher chance of cleansheet?

    4. Yome
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Pieters. Swansea will score (Siggy)

    5. reeceyboy
      10 years, 18 days ago

      Holly

  18. pax888
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 19 days ago

    Antonio & Aguero > KDB & Lukaku for a -4?

    1. RustyBz
      10 years, 19 days ago

      losing Aguero for a hit...are you drunk

      1. Dark_Mata
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 19 days ago

        +6

    2. Rhinos
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Step away from the keyboard

  19. Rhinos
    10 years, 19 days ago

    Seems to be a high correlation between those posters that rate themselves and those that don't link their team

    1. Dark_Mata
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Hahahaha nice

    2. pax888
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Lot of players still have their links from last season on their profile.

      1. Rhinos
        10 years, 19 days ago

        To be honest I don't look, it's pretty obvious from reading who has good things to say and who doesn't. Only check the ones who continually give it the big un and they never link their team

        1. Fitzy.
          10 years, 19 days ago

          Exactly.

      1. Rhinos
        10 years, 19 days ago

        Exactly

    3. Professor Red
      10 years, 19 days ago

      If I link my team my rivals may find out my moves and plans. And secondly bound to get people copying my team left right centre.

      1. Fitzy.
        10 years, 19 days ago

        Aren't your rivals in mini leagues with you?

        1. Professor Red
          10 years, 19 days ago

          Of course but they cant see what transfers ive made before the gw.

          See this is what I am talking about you dont even know the basic rules of the game.

          1. RustyBz
            10 years, 19 days ago

            what?

          2. Fitzy.
            10 years, 19 days ago

            Neither can anyone clicking on your team if it's linked dopey. 🙄

            "If I link my team my rivals may find out my moves and plans"

            1. Professor Red
              10 years, 19 days ago

              Well obviously they will find out who I am and I discuss my transfers on here so they will find out Einstein.

              Wow cant believe I am having to explain this to you.

              1. Fitzy.
                10 years, 19 days ago

                "..they will find out who I am.." 😆

      2. steelbangle
        10 years, 19 days ago

        lol.

      3. RustyBz
        10 years, 19 days ago

        Honestly, shut up

    4. applebonkers
      • Has Moderation Rights
      10 years, 19 days ago

      people need to stop biting

  20. Miro
    10 years, 19 days ago

    Who to play?
    A) Amat
    B) Valencia

    1. Dark_Mata
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Still b

    2. reeceyboy
      10 years, 18 days ago

      b

  21. MOULACTICOS
    10 years, 19 days ago

    Surprisingly only 2 out of the top 10 managers in the world own Bellerin.

    Seems to be a good investment to me. Shaw to Bellerin?

  22. Jimjam
    10 years, 19 days ago

    Foster, Pickford
    Vertonghen, Williams, Holebas, Evans, Amat
    Sanchez, Sterling, Lallana, Snodgrass, Capoue
    Aguero, Costa, Lukaku

    0FT, 0.0 in bank

    1) Anything worth a -4 hit to resolve?
    2) Play AoA this week?

    1. melvinmbabazi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 19 days ago

      GTG

  23. melvinmbabazi
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 19 days ago

    What to do this week? 1FT 0.0 ITB
    Thinking about Capoue to Allen and playing AOA or Should i Save and play Snodgrass?

    Foster-Pickford
    Valencia-Pieters-McAuley-Holebas-Amat
    Walcott-Sterling-Capoue-Firmino-Snodgrass
    Aguero-Ibra-Lukaku

    Thanks

    1. Jimjam
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Snodgrass has a decent fixture this week, I'd be tempted to play him, play AoA, and have 2 frees for next week.

  24. Dr Dream
    10 years, 19 days ago

    @Rustybz...

    "Barca's first 3 goals came from City's individual mistakes, not like they created the chances from good play"

    At my lowly level of football management we encourage our lads every week to make sure they get 15-20 shots off on goal and get plenty of early driven crosses in (hard for defenders to control).

    The reason behind it is that mistakes happen and there's luck to be had...and plenty of it. You simply have to drum it into the players that they are alive to the possibility...and our lads are. We have that conversation over and over again. You simply create your own luck.

    What we got from City last night was the exact opposite.

    1. Kings of Lyon ★
      10 years, 19 days ago

      +1

    2. RustyBz
      10 years, 19 days ago

      I appreciate that, but anyone that watches Barcelona regularly will know they was far off their best last night, and score was pretty flattering. I thought City were the better team up until sending off, after that they just collapsed and we all know what happens once Barca smell blood...

      1. Dr Dream
        10 years, 19 days ago

        Barca must have been peeing themselves at City trying to play out from the back with the quality of players they have waiting to pounce on mistakes.

        How the hell can anybody think passing across the back four is a good idea with the likes of Suarez and co waiting to pounce on the first mistake.

        1. RustyBz
          10 years, 19 days ago

          Well, that's the Pep way...much easier to play that style when you're managing Barcelona or Bayern Munich... probably a tough lesson for him.

          Although the mistakes coming from misplaced passes came from Gundogan and KDB 😆 Fernandinho just slipped...

  25. All Hail K
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 19 days ago

    A general football question for those more knowledgable than myself. If a player on 3 yellow cards picks up his 4th and 5th yellow in one game, does he sit out 1 game for the 2 yellows plus a second game for the 5th yellow?

    1. Rhinos
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Nope

      1. All Hail K
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 19 days ago

        What happens then, he sits out one game and that's considered having served his punishment for both scenarios?

        1. Rhinos
          10 years, 19 days ago

          Yep

          1. All Hail K
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            10 years, 19 days ago

            Thanks for your help Rhinos. 🙂

    2. Rhinos
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Sorry I'm talking crap. The red supercedes yellow so he'd be banned and still on 3 yellows I think

      1. Rhinos
        10 years, 19 days ago

        Or maybe 4

      2. All Hail K
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 19 days ago

        A new twist. Thanks. (I'll field the baseball questions.)

        1. Rhinos
          10 years, 19 days ago

          I used to love baseball but not watched it for years. 2001 world series was awesome. Those games in New York

  26. reidms88
    10 years, 19 days ago

    Mandanda Pickford
    Koscielny Vertoghen Stones Holebas Amat
    Coutinho Walcott Antonio Stirling Snodgrass
    Aguero Benteke Deeney

    I was thinking of switching Antonio to Lallana but already have Coutinho.
    Liverpool do have good fixtures coming up though is it worth having both?

    any other suggestions?

    1. George James
      10 years, 19 days ago

      i would keep antonio for 1 more week personally.

      thoughts on my question below

  27. George James
    10 years, 19 days ago

    how do i get walcott in without losing sterling.??

    cech
    lovren williams vertonghan
    sanchez firminio sterling snodgrass
    kun lukaku deeney

    pickford capoue francis amat

    2 ft 0 in the bank

  28. applebonkers
    • Has Moderation Rights
    10 years, 19 days ago

    think it's fair enough to call sterling a flat-track-bully right now.
    the 4 games he has blanked in across all competitions are man utd, tottenham, everton and barcelona. that's fair enough, what is more worrying is he has 1 key pass and 3 shots in those 4 matches.
    it definitely looks like he can be benched in tougher games, or sold in tougher runs.

    1. Rhinos
      10 years, 19 days ago

      Could we even call man city track bullies

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