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21 November 2016 1286 comments
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A disappointing Gameweek 12 stutters to its conclusion at the Hawthorns this evening as West Bromwich Albion entertain travel-sick Burnley.

The Baggies have mustered just a single clean sheet in five fixtures in front of their own supporters but will fancy their chances of improving that record, bearing in mind that Burnley have scored once in four road trips.

Sean Dyche’s side have shipped three goals on a trio of away occasions, heightening the hosts’ optimism for finding the net. With Nacer Chadli still unavailable, Salomon Rondon seems the likeliest source of attacking returns.

Chris Brunt is handed another chance to impress as an out of position prospect, with the Irishman set to start on the flank once again.

No side have conceded more attempts from set-pieces than Burnley this season, which suggests that Tom Heaton can expect an aerial assault from Gareth McAuley and co, with Brunt’s delivery a key weapon.

Burnley’s lack of bite on the road means that top scorer Sam Vokes faces a tough task of maintaining his fine form, having netted against Southampton, Everton and Palace in three of the previous four Gameweeks.

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  1. Hands Guber
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    66-20 point hit. Put's me on a par with people that didn't take monster hits and did okay.

    Harry Kane (C) really saved me in a week that could have put my struggle to get beyond the 800k - 1.2m mark to bed!

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 16 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Well done.

      1. Hands Guber
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Cheers. Luckiest I've gotten in this game in a long long time,

    2. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      My sort of player, well done. Sensible bores me to death and would top me playing. Not like we are ever gonna win it

      1. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        would stop me

      2. Hands Guber
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Well I certainly won't,patience has never rewarded me! Cheers

    3. walkman666
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Wow! Rad result. And that comes with two Kane goals at the very end of the match. Made your entire gw and risk pay off quite well!

    4. white lightning
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      That's one spicy meatball. Good stuff.

    5. The Mighty Hippo
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      You set your nads to "max" with that one...well done!!

      1. Kalou
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Lottery numbers prediction this week?:)

  2. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    • 16 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    LMS Update

    Safety score pre baps and autosubs is 21.

    1. Syd.
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      31 - should be safe 🙂

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 16 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        All good

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 16 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      at least 21*

    3. Swan - Villa Proud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      On 22. Nervous times

      1. TorresMagic™
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        • 16 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Not looking good. 🙁

        1. Swan - Villa Proud
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          :(. 8 point hit two weeks ago has cost me 20 points. Live and learn

          1. TorresMagic™
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            • 16 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            That's where our teams started getting different.

            1. Swan - Villa Proud
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 3 months ago

              Holding Sanchez needs to pay off next week.

    4. KingNidge
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      38 smoked it.. red arrow and out of the cup tho 🙁

    5. walkman666
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Hmmm. I'm net 28, may be living on the edge again.

      1. Partick Bateman
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Ditto.

    6. A Team Of James McCleans
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      25? After a 2 point sub on

      1. TorresMagic™
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        • 16 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Close, at least 22 now and rising.

    7. white lightning
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      After being on 10/7 I ended up on 35. Good times for WL.

    8. Wouter
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Nice. We keep going.

    9. ChristoBisto
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Come On! Still in it B-)

    10. Danno - Emre Canada
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Beautiful. Cheers, no skin of my teeth for once

      1. TorresMagic™
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        • 16 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        25 is the safety score.

  3. FF Dirtbag
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Horrible horrible week. 37. I guess it might be better than some though. What would you change about this??

    2FT and 0.4 mill in the bank.

    Pickford Grant
    Walker Williams Evans Holebas Amat
    Sanchez Firmino Coutinho Allen Fletcher
    Lukaku Aguero Costa

    1. walkman666
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Is Walker healthy? If not, sell for Alonso or another 6M defender. If Walker is okay, maybe sell Williams for Cedric or Lovren.

  4. Hands Guber
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Anyone without Arsenal cover kind of worried about Sunday now? I know I am.

    I'm nearly tempted to do Hazard to Sanchez for a hit.

    1. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      You should do a -20

      1. Hands Guber
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        I'm looking at a -8. Cowboy stuff.

    2. Saïss Doesn't Mat…
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      might just get Geeroux for Lukaku. Got rid of Sanchez last week

    3. BROOKLYN GOONER
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Sanchez is already out of PSG match. Would not be shocked if he did not start vs Bournemouth.

      1. Hands Guber
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Oh really? Huh. Missed that,cheers

      2. Dr Dream
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Link?

        1. VS10_
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Nothing credible. Presser tomorrow.

          1. BROOKLYN GOONER
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Fair enough, thought I saw it on BBC or something, but was prolly just a link to one of these stories...https://www.google.com/#safe=off&tbs=qdr:d&q=paris+sanchez+hamstring+out

            But I'd delay and delay and delay Haz to Sanchez for a hit when you'll want him back for gw15. And Spurs and Man City defenses maybe not so watertight in the interim.

    4. SamH123
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      I have no Arsenal cover and am not that bothered

  5. HurriKane
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Looking at the defensive template for upcoming weeks

    Alonso, wba def, soton def (_____, ______)

    Who would you prefer for other two spots ?

    1. applebonkers
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      • 16 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      like rose/alderweireld (in 2 gw of course), valencia and still holebas/janmaat and koscielny

    2. Carlton P
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Amat + holebas

    3. davies
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Amat, Friend? (If he's back for next week)

    4. Pariße
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Alonso isn't ideal for the next 2, very much so after that though.

  6. diesel001
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    My squad - what should I do? No money in the bank.

    Heaton - Grant
    Luiz - McAuley - Holebas - Smith - Amat
    Hazard - Coutinho - Firmino - Walcott
    Lukaku - Austin - Aguero

    1. HurriKane
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Nice squad man. maybe look a way to get costa in for lukaku ?

    2. diesel001
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Sorry - Also have De Roon in midfield

  7. Le _ Professeur
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Brunt on 1 BPS 🙂

    1. Ziro
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      AppleBonkers right again!!

      And I tie with the Scout Picks !! Yessss

      1. Ziro
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        I mean, tie with VS_10 as highest margin of victory!

        1. Team Cruel
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          What happens if you win? Share the $100 amazon voucher?

          1. Ziro
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            No idea.

      2. VS10_
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Well done, I'll take a draw happily after suffering through that 2nd half 🙂

        1. Ziro
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Yeah, one more save from Foster and it would have been curtains.

    2. Heavy Data
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      yay

  8. Hurricane Gilbert
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    So just tuned in and WTF happened? 4-0??? Heaton zero points how is that even possible?

    1. Heavy Data
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      4-0 is exactly how that is possible. Awful.

  9. Jolly Good
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Friend replacement

    Jenkinson- value 5m arsenal defender till bellerin back (is he nailed?)

    Or

    Brunt?

    1. HurriKane
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      would prefer cedric

  10. JB12345
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Aguero cost is 13.2 but my selling value is only 13, even though it says he hasn't dropped below 13 all season - anyone know why this is?

    1. Jolly Good
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      He was 12.9 I think

    2. Backup Dancer
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      He was 12.9

    3. Syd.
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      What price did you buy him at?

    4. keeney
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      You bought him at 13.1 ?

      1. Team Cruel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        What? He got him for 13.1 but can only sell him for 13.0 now that he is 13.2?

        No. He got Kun at 12.9

        1. keeney
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Bed time for me

  11. Ravager
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Foster (Japu)
    Walker Mustafi Fuchs (Kelly Amat)
    Sanchez Firmino Coutinho Allen (Fletcher)
    Aguero Austin Lukaku

    2 FT 0.0 ITB

    At first glance, any suggestions to improve this bunch?

  12. Kalou
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    With Coutinho likely to be the poll leader,think it's time I brought him in and cap him.Who would you take out?

    A.Hazard
    B.Sanchez

    1. VougieDipond
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Sanchez....Good horse name you have

      1. Kalou
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Thanks mate....ran well in the national!

  13. andy85wsm
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    • 15 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Brunt getting a BP with no attacking involvement is great. Long may it continue

    1. BananaNose Maldonado
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Sort of crap as a Rondon owner, to be honest. I just tied my H2H matchup when he fell from 2 to 0 bonus points. Crap.

      1. VougieDipond
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Rondon loses bps for taking shots. they really need to review this shot of target rule. Doing nothing shouldn't be rewarded

        1. BananaNose Maldonado
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          I agree. It's almost better for your player to complete about 100 safe passes and never do anything risky. That shouldn't be rewarded.

        2. Kalou
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Seems unfair on rondon but ide take it Andy:)

  14. Bazzalona
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Not 3 saves for Heaton?

    1. KingNidge
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Made one outstanding one.. everything else seemed to hit the back of the net

      1. walkman666
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        LOL. Very funny.

    2. Heavy Data
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      nope. only two.

    3. Smarty Pants
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      looks like the last one didn't count as the shot was off target

      1. Bazzalona
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Cheers that's the one I meant, didnt see it but hoped it would count.
        Damn!!

      2. Pasqualinho
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        I've seen plenty of those given as saves in the past.

      3. Smarty Pants
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        I never really paid much attention how consistent they are in this respect (probably not consistent at all), but I remember them not giving off target saves for my goalkeepers in the past when I was watching and counting saves

  15. Albert_Luque
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    joe Allen: is everyone getting rid now he's suspended and playing a lot deeper? No idea who to replace him with either, 4th mid spot proving tricky

    1. Swan - Villa Proud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Keeping. Think he'll return to the No 10 role and need a playing 5th for Xmas

    2. walkman666
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Keeping for home game against Burnley the week after next (cannot ignore today's result).

    3. Licious Lizard
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Tough choice. Finally got rid of Capoue this week on WC, so scared of making the same "mistake".

      Not worried about the suspension, but if he starts playing that much deeper it could be an issue.
      Probably keeping for Butnley and reassessing when the fixtures turn

    4. white lightning
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Keep for gw14 vs Burnley at home. He should be back in the no. 10 role then as Cameron &/or Whelan should be back by then as well.

    5. BERGKOP
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      I'm holding for 2 GW's time.

  16. IWR
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Smith/Ozil/Allen (bench) to Alonso/Coutihno/DeRoon (bench) for a -8?

    Leaves me with all of Cout/Mane/Firm for a couple of weeks before moving Mane.

  17. Smarty Pants
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Rondon loses out on baps by 1 BPS which means that I get same points as cup opponent and lose out by 1 point difference in overall points, haha.
    ONE BPS!!!!!!

    1. Ziro
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      tough luck SmartyPants.

      Good luck for me though. 😛

    2. wbm
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Damn!

  18. camarozz
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Top point scorer this gw took a -72.
    Don't feel so bad with my -8 now..

    1. Heavy Data
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      WOW! and people get at me for a -12 one week and a -16 the next. Jeez

      1. Dr Dream
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        How did you do with them ?..red or green ?

    2. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      After hit I guess he wasn't quite top.

  19. davies
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Keep Arnautovic?

    (wat, BUR) his next 2 fixtures, then sell after?

  20. andy85wsm
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    • 15 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    I wish you no luck of you're my cup opponent in next round 🙂

  21. ChristoBisto
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    I'm through in the cup! Thank you West Brom! 😀 My opponent played Heaton instead of Pickford so must be fuming but it was a cracking match up in the end.

  22. Atimis
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Hello everyone !! I would very appreciate your help:
    Pick/Grant
    Walker/Alonso/Holebas/McAuley/Amat
    Firm/Cout/Wally/Hazrad/Allen
    Austin/Kaku/Kun

    The plan is for:
    GW13 Allen, Kaku>Siggy, Anichebe
    GW14 Kun>Kane
    GW15 Austin, Firm>KDB, Costa

    What do you think ?
    Cheers !!

  23. Hurricane Gilbert
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Didn't watch the game - can someone explain to me how this could happen? SuperHeaton 4 conceded and 2 saves??

    1. Licious Lizard
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      The defence in front finally Caught up with him

  24. La vida FPL
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    whos more of a priority to get out the door.. (choose 2)

    A) Jakupovic
    B) Smith
    C) Amat
    D)Benteke
    E) Son

    1. white lightning
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Since all are playing then Jaku.

  25. The Mighty Hippo
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    The 1 BAP for Brunt gives me a projected green arrow instead of a red one...lol

  26. Kane Train
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    What to do ? 2FT & 2.0 to spend

    Pickford
    Koscielny / Lovren / Walker
    Coutinho / Hazard / Firmino / Gundogen
    Aguero / Austin / Lukaku

    Bench: Jaku, Amat, Barry, Kelly

    1. Kane Train
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      anyone?

    2. white lightning
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Downgrade Walker (your defense is too expensive) & upgrade Lukaku to Costa or upgrade Gundogan. This is all I can see. I rather do the Gundogan option tbh. Maybe Siggy, Walcott. Maybe if Giroud has a good chance to start next week downgrade Lukaku to Giroud or upgrade Austin to Giroud.

      1. Kane Train
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        thanks mate.

  27. Jazz!
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    2 brilliant GWs on the trot for me. So happy 🙂 Qualified in the cup comp and won in the ChiliBowl also. 😀

    1. TorresMagic™
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      • 16 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Congrats!

      1. Jazz!
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Thanks TM!

    2. AK ⭐
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Let's go captain!

      1. Jazz!
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Love you AK!

  28. Dr Dream
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    That was the best I've ever seen WBA play. I may have to revise my opinions.

    I've always liked Rondon from the get go. It's been a criminal waste that he's played for such a defensive set up at times.

    1. KingNidge
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Burnley were absolutely atrocious Wakey.. agree Brom looked fantastic but i would have to see them play in a similar manner against even a half decent side

      1. Dr Dream
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        I wasn't going to watch it but did in the end.

        Hull, Burnley and Swansea look capable of getting thumped on any given gameweek now. A lot is being said about do we need Aguero with Kane and Costa around...well you can add chasing those three to that list. Every striker becomes a 10.0mill player against them.

        1. KingNidge
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          This is a good point.. i sold Aguero earlier on... had enough

  29. camarozz
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    What are the corresponding gws for the Xmas period??
    Is ther am international break 1St wk of January???

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 16 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Gameweek 17 17 Dec 11:30
      Gameweek 18 26 Dec 11:30
      Gameweek 19 30 Dec 19:00
      Gameweek 20 2 Jan 11:30
      Gameweek 21 14 Jan 11:30

      FA Cup

    2. Ravager
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Not sue about the Xmas period but there are no international breaks until March

  30. Messiah Hazard
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Is it a good omen that I am winning my FFS Cup game 40(-8) to 28?

    What a sad GW!