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Goals and assists in the pre-season friendlies sparked much debate among the community over the past week, as two notable big -hitters showed their class to get the locals chattering.

We look back over those notable discussions in our review of the week’s Hot Topics, while also highlighting another set of articles from two regular scribes.

We also bring news of an exciting – and rather epic – new community tournament.

The Community Articles

The player ownership debate was once again all the rage this week, with Red Arrows setting the agenda with his hugely acclaimed Hot Topic, a discussion which followed hot on the heels of a new updated article from Milvus which scans the current movers and shakers in the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) market.

Elsewhere, we saw a debut community article from YTFC_Scratch who offered us insight into his own struggle between trusting his emotions and gut instincts next to putting faith in mathematical algorithms such as our own Rate My Team. A great new addition to our community contributors, look out for more from Scratch next week.

Finally, our resident Draft game expert Pav A Nice Day has delivered once again, providing another essential guide that breaks down his top ten tips for Draft Day. This is his third article submitted this summer and follows on from his perfect player list.

Don’t forget, if you’ve got some analysis, scout reports or features brewing, be sure to visit our community section to submit your article.

The Hottest Topics

That lauded thread from Red Arrows was one of many key discussions that took place this week, with big ticket Fantasy assets hogging the attention.

Ironically, we’d already laid the groundwork for what was to come by asking you how much credence you put on pre-season form and how it influences your decision-making.

It didn’t end there, with this Hot Topic from The Fantasy Freak also pre-empting events and discussions to come. He asked whether we were overlooking Chelsea’s Marcos Alonso and, just two days later and following a goal against Bayern Munich, that subject resurfaced.

First, Rupert The Horse provided some vital analysis of the Blues wing-back. Then we asked if, even with his price of 7.0, Alonso was back in the game and returning to our initial squad line-ups.

Then it was Kevin De Bruyne’s turn to shine. His stellar performance and two assists in Manchester City’s stunning 4-1 victory over Real Madrid opened our eyes, once again, to the Belgian’s appeal and we swooped to chair the discussion. That extended later in the week with AceK1ght’s excellent post on the potential routes into Pep Guardiola’s stellar attack.

Following that, Kuntheman offered his views on City’s likely line-up and our options for navigating their notorious rotation policy. Meanwhile, IMember chose to focus purely on the debate raging over the City strikers, underlining his view that “Pep loves Jesus”.

Away from City, Distinctly Average was anything but with his superb post that examined our midfield options, confessing that he was troubled by the array of options on offer. Deulofail then followed up by suggesting that we were being blinded by the cast of 7.0 candidates.

Switching to the strikers, AceKn1ght returned with another popular post on the merits of West Ham United’s new capture Javier Hernandez – a player we know well and who seems perfectly suited to the role of third striker in 3-4-3 setups.

“Little Pea” offers potential, a word which sums up Manchester United’s Marcus Rashford. Overshadowed by new team-mate Romelu Lukaku, Forever Mirin certainly made a strong case to us to consider the starlet striker in his midweek Hot Topic.

While that pair are both prospects for next season, Spurs’ Harry Kane is undoubtedly a proven commodity and yet Aggero was on hand to draw our attention to the fact that pundits have claimed that the striker will be unable to sustain his scoring form. It’s fair to say that I, and many others, were not ready to accept such a theory.

Finally, and on a lighter note perhaps, this fabulous post from 1569Tippins describes a nightmarish scenario that might just haunt other experienced Fantasy managers. Tippins describes how he’s been refused entry to his work’s cash league on the grounds of his expertise, with his colleagues insisting that he accepts a handicap if he is to enter. Extraordinary stuff and a story we’re keen to track.

The Members’ Tables

FPL Virgin hogged the limelight when it came to Members’ tables this week, donating no less than three excellent new public offerings for our perusal.

He started with this view of Bournemouth’s defensive options. He followed that up with an effort which analysed those players assured of starting roles in his “Nailed On” table. Meanwhile, the third table looked at those players hooked off before the 90-minute mark, with Chelsea’s Eden Hazard topping the ranks of his “Never Finishes A Match” analysis.

If you’re a member and are yet to get to grips with the custom statistics tables, you can view this movie for an explanation of how they work. Also, remember to tag them so that people can find the tables with ease.

The Community Tournaments

There was big news this week with the launch of a first tournament from the new Community Watch committee. The aptly-named Community Watch Tournament is built around the concept of a head-to-head league made up of 20 teams, each with seven to 10 members.

If you’ve ever played one of the classic FFSUEFA team tournaments then you already know the gist. If not, then you really need to check it out and get involved.

Elsewhere, PDM is still looking for those who have finished at least one FPL season within the top 1,000 to join his Top 1K Any Season league (21265-6670), and those with at least one top 10,000 finish are invited to join Red Lightning’s Top 10,000 Any Season league. (757-400).

Also, Torres Magic’s Last Man Standing contest (44937-13340) is still open for entries, clocking up over 2000 so far.

If you are running a community tournament and would like the latest scores included in future Community Round-ups, please email us a summary of the current leaders and a link to your league, spreadsheet or head-to-head competition, at jonty@fantasyfootballscout.co.uk.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. b91jh
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    A) Sterling+Jesus
    B) Walcott+Jesus
    C) Ince+Kane

    which one?

    1. Captain Fozzy
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      no contest its got to be C. Sterling and Walcott are no way near guarenteed starters

    2. rocrocodile
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      C by far.

  2. estheblessed
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Initial team here. Any feedback...

    Foster
    Lindeloff, Trippier, Daniels
    Coutinho, William, Erickson, Ward-Prowse
    Lukaku, Aguero, Chicarito

    Elliot, Rosenior, Ince, Yedlin

  3. Lone Wolf
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Rate my team please

    Foster, Elliot
    Alonso, Trippier, Mee, Naughton, Hunemeier
    Mane, Alli, Zaha, Redmond, RLC
    Lukaku, Jesus, Chicharito

    1. billnats
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Do you have money in the bank? Feels pretty week IMO.

      5

      1. Lone Wolf
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        oh..

  4. Toast
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Some very strong squads put out by Spurs and City last night. What can we read into this game?

    1. Both seemed to ply three at the back with attacking wing backs. Danilo was MOM according to Sky and could have had a couple of goals

    2. Jesus starts..Did Pep start his strongest squad?

    3. Man City putting in some good performances including beating R Madrid. Do we need more City cover.

    1. billnats
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      I am a Spurs supporter and it showed me the following:
      1) City are a better squad than Spurs
      2) Spurs Alli, Eriksen and Kane will play every game whilst City will rotate their front 7... bar maybe KDB

    2. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      1. City and Spurs both started with back 4. Spurs changed just after half time to 3.

      2. No. Silva and Sane would be in our strongest side. Spurs probably did.

      3. City are a huge rotation risk this season. KDB and Kompany are the only players I'd get

  5. Ronnies
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Guys,

    Is lindelof nailed ?
    Should I just go for DDG as my man u defender ?
    Tnks

    1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Lindelof is not nailed

    2. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      We need to see if he can get one good game under his belt!

  6. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Anyone planning for an extreme early WC team? Like treble Chelsea, treble Man City for GW1, banking on them to rack up a lot of goals early on then get price rises & WC to a proper team over the GW3 international break? You could have an extra 1.0 or 1.5 of selling value built in time for GW4...

    1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      You'd essentially be betting on both games to be 4 goal + drubbings. If either Burnley or Brighton puts up a little fight, this fails. No need, imo.

      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 15 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        I think Burnley were the worst away team in the league last year so there's a great chance of a 4-0, same with how city started last year. It is a gamble, no doubt, but I guess it kind of has a safety net with the GW3 WC, could have a lot of upside... you could have a team like below:

        DDG
        Alonso, Lindelof, Bertrand
        KDB, Willian, Zaha, Sané
        Morata, Jesus, Austin
        (4.0, 4.5, 4.0,4.0)

        1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 4 months ago

          And what if Sané doesnt start because Pep hates us 😛 ? Just not willing to put so much trust in Chelsea, either, they're still discovering how Morata is going to gel fully into the team. A wait and see; it's certainly a viable option.

  7. internal error
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Which players stood out from the man city game?

    1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Alli - he was shit

    2. Jonesfromthere
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      KDB, Walker, Jesus, Sterling all looked sharp. Nasri was fantastic when he came on, believe it or not. Kun looked good despite hitting the post twice.

    3. HammersFan
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Anybody in a blue shirt

    4. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Nasri!

    5. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Danilo, KDB

  8. Lone Wolf
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    What is the best 4.5 def pair?

    1. Jonesfromthere
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Mee and Hegazi. He's looking more and more nailed, for me.

    2. Malcolm Tucker for England …
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      yoshida + 4.0

    3. Pep says
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Francis and Naughton go pretty well and both attacking players and capable of both goals and assists.

  9. ZeBestee
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Rate this team:

    DDG, Elliot
    Alonso, Trippier, Kola, Yoshida, Hunemeier
    Salah, Willian, Zaha, Ince, RLC
    Kanr, Jesus, Austin

    1. Jonesfromthere
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Looks nice. You playing 4-3-3 by the looks of it? Ince and Zaha to rotate? I'd personally have Bertrand over Kola

      1. rocrocodile
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        Nice team.

        How do you plan to play/rotate Yoshida and Ince? Cause this looks like a 4-3-3/3-4-3 rotation to me.

        I would personally upgrade one of them. Ince to 4.5 and Yoshida to Valencia/Kompany/City. Or Yoshida to 4.0 and Ince to... well, I don't know.

        1. ZeBestee
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 4 months ago

          Ince looks like he has an eye for goals. I haven't seen hum much but going by pre season he looks like one of Hud main man

      2. ZeBestee
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        Thanks, watched emirates cup yesterday and was hugely impressed by Kolasinac. He was neat and was an attacking outlet all game. I am still going to tinker though

  10. ABK_94
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    RMT please

    Foster (Elliot)

    Daniels - Mee - Cedric - Dawson - (Rangel)

    Sanchez - Zaha - Kdb - Alli - (McArthur)

    Lukaku - Firmino - (Mitrovic)

    1. rocrocodile
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Different. And I like that someone takes a punt on going withouth either Kane, Aguero, Jesus, Morata or Lacazette.

    2. ZeBestee
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Sanchez is unlikely to start, Cedric as well. Otherwise different

  11. Scotty B
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    De Gea
    Trippier Dawson Kompany Alonso
    Willian Eriksen Salah
    Lukaku Jesus Austin

    Myhill Carroll Romeu Hünemeier

    How's it looking?

  12. Lone Wolf
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Who is the best budget 3rd striker in 4-4-2 system?

    1. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Gotta be between Gayle, JRod and Austin. More and you need to play him every week; less and he's bench fodder.

    2. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      One that's 4.5

      1. Lone Wolf
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        yep but need a nailed one in case of auto sub

        1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 4 months ago

          Just get a nailed 4.5 DEF then

          1. rocrocodile
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            8 years, 4 months ago

            Agree with Witty Pun. Either you pick a 3rd forward you want to play every week, or you go 4.5. More value in the nailed defenders in that price range.

    3. Ramboros
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Ayew.

  13. b91jh
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Danilo or Trippier?

    1. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Shh, I'm going against the received wisdom and having Danilo.

  14. Dacra
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Is no city bad?

    Foster (Elliott)
    Alonso - Valencia - Trippier - Cedric (4.0)
    Alli - Salah - Willian (RLC, Carroll)
    Lukaku - Lacazette - Chicharito

    1. Flynny
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Think u want city

    2. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Remember how they started last season?

  15. Flynny
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Thoughts on this as a 442 option?

    Or best to drop kola and go back to 343 with Austin gayle or jrod?

    Kolasinac trippier bertrand Daniels dunk
    Kdb salah willian Phillips/ ince Carroll
    Kane lukaku quaner

    Thanks

    1. Flynny
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Sorry....kèepers r foster elliot

  16. The Bandit
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    So for the second game running, the Man City scorers are Stones, Sterling and Diaz. Not what was required at all 😐

    1. Dr Dream
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      As posted last week...Sterling will frustrate us and our City picks this season..

  17. Hotdogs for Tea
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    I am coming to the conclusion that Jesus is the best way in to the Man City attack - he is cheaper or similar priced to alternative strikers, whereas KdB is more expensive than alternative mids

    KdB & Kane 22.5 mill
    Jesus 10.5 & Alli/Erik etc. 20 mill

    1. rocrocodile
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Works on paper, but I'm not sure if you'll get value for those 2.5 elsewhere. To me Kane/KDB is the definitve Spurs/City picks.

      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 15 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        Will KDB not get rested more this year? Silva looked like a direct KDB competitor signing. Also will he not find it hard to get the #10 role with all those other attacking Miss & wingers & second strikers etc?

  18. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Scraping the barrel here... Is Kachunga on penalties at Huddersfield?

    1. Reuser
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      The set-pieces tab on this website says "no".

      1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        Cheers, next time I'll definetly check that out first... The more you know 🙂

        1. Reuser
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 4 months ago

          Sorry - didn't mean to sound passive-aggressive there! 🙂

          1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
            • 8 Years
            8 years, 4 months ago

            Not at all - I meant that! 😆 i guess that the smiley always looks a bit accusing, doesn't it?

    2. FFPro
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      I believe was Mooy last season, Ince may take over them.

      Kachunga took one preseason with Ince on the pitch however.

      1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        Cheers. Certainly a situation to monitor then.

  19. reason17
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    A) foster - lindelof - De bruyne - lacazette
    B) foster - bailly - ozil - Jesus + 0.5

    1. Aubaaaaa
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Don't quite like the Man U defenders pick in both. But if I have to choose one, then B.

  20. b91jh
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    A) Defoe+Jesus
    B) Abraham+Kane

    ?

    1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      A is more balanced... But it would have to be part of a 3 at the front, wouldn't want to rely on Jesus and Defoe alone to bring home the bacon

    2. Hotdogs for Tea
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Abraham unlikely to start much if Llorente is still at Swansea

  21. allaboutthemagic
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Second draft here.. any thoughts/amends!?

    Foster (Elliott)
    Yosh Kompany trippier (Daniels long)
    Willian coutino redmond erik loftus-cheek
    Lukaku Kane (solanke)

  22. HesaCat
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    A) David Luiz + Austin
    B) Simpson + Benteke

    1. Aubaaaaa
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      A

  23. thepeen555
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Where does yoshida play CB?

    Is he a better shout than Bertrand? To save 0.5

    1. El-Kloppico
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Not better.. no way!
      worth the +0.5 imo.

      Yoshida is far from nailed also, since we have not write off VvD yet

  24. United94
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    RMT
    Changed my team about million times already.
    Foster
    Danilo,trip,Bertrand (Morgan,Rang)
    Zaha,kdb,pogba,phillips (rlc)
    Kane,Lukaku,chich thoughts ?

  25. El-Kloppico
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Questions guy!

    Who to choose from LIV and CHE cover?

    a) Salah
    b) Coutinho

    1) Fabregas
    2) Willian

    1. Jigger & Pony
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      B2

    2. Aubaaaaa
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      A2

  26. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    So are Danilo & Kolasinac making their way into more RMT's now? How fickle we are 🙂

    1. El-Kloppico
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Danilo is second to both Walker and Mendy imo

      1. Jigger & Pony
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        Mendy injured

        1. El-Kloppico
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 4 months ago

          Might still start.. if not, he should be ready for GW2.

    2. Jigger & Pony
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Just transferred in Danilo 🙂

    3. Cruz88
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Quite, today it's all about getting rid of Spurs assets, bringing in the likes or Sterling and Danilo it seems. Tomorrow, different story. I'll just sit on my team until a few days before the season kicks off now I reckon.

  27. My Longest Yeah Boy Ever
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Midfielders are lava:

    Foster --- (Elliot)

    Alonso, Danilo, Kolasinac, Trippier, Bertrand ---

    Zaha, Ward-Prowse --- (Fraser, Sobhi, Carroll)

    Lacazette, Kane, Lukaku

    1A) Trade Ward-Prowse (5.5M) in for McArthur (4.5M) and upgrade to De Gea
    1B) Trade Fraser (5.5M) in for McArthur (4.5M) and upgrade to De Gea
    2A) Trade Ward-Prowse (5.5M) in for McArthur (4.5M) and upgrade Zaha to Pogba
    2B) Trade Fraser (5.5M) in for McArthur (4.5M) and upgrade to Zaha to Pogba

    C) Delete your whole team, hurt yourself, and then start over from scratch, idiot.

    1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Danilo, Kolasinac, and ward-proswe - lovely! 🙂

    2. aaaaaa
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      C

    3. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      C except don't hurt yourself self harm isn't good

  28. Scapegoat Salah
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Best 4.5m defender? Attacking potential would be good! Thinking one of the following?
    - Mee
    - Dunk
    - Lowe
    - Suttner
    - Yedlin

    1. El-Kloppico
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Dunk

      1. Scapegoat Salah
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        He only played 21 championship games last season? And does he offer attacking potential?

        1. El-Kloppico
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 4 months ago

          CS potential.. will surely park the bus in many an occasion.
          But NEW def is missing in your equation.. I'd love Lejeune as an option.

          1. Scapegoat Salah
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 4 months ago

            Ok. I have Yedlin as Newcastle.

    2. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Francis?

  29. KeepCalm
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Good to be back! Could anyone please update me with the best 4.0 defenders and 4.5 mids out there?

    Will be highly appreciated.

    1. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      No likely 4.0m starters. Carroll, Loftus-Cheek

      1. KeepCalm
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        Cheers

    2. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Bes yt?g 4.0 Def is one with ownership under 1 percent at this point. No guarantees at all

      1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        Wow, that's embarrassing. *Best

    3. HammersFan
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      No decent 4.0 defenders unfortunately

      Carroll for 4.5 mid

  30. estheblessed
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Rate my team...

    Foster
    Lindeloff, Trippier, Daniels
    Coutinho, William, Erickson, Ward-Prowse
    Lukaku, Aguero, Chicarito

    Elliot, Rosenior, Ince, Yedlin

    1. aaaaaa
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      William, Ericksen, chicarito to Willian, Eriksen, Chicharito

    2. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Ince is a lot of money for second slot on the bench