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Goals and assists in the pre-season friendlies sparked much debate among the community over the past week, as two notable big -hitters showed their class to get the locals chattering.

We look back over those notable discussions in our review of the week’s Hot Topics, while also highlighting another set of articles from two regular scribes.

We also bring news of an exciting – and rather epic – new community tournament.

The Community Articles

The player ownership debate was once again all the rage this week, with Red Arrows setting the agenda with his hugely acclaimed Hot Topic, a discussion which followed hot on the heels of a new updated article from Milvus which scans the current movers and shakers in the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) market.

Elsewhere, we saw a debut community article from YTFC_Scratch who offered us insight into his own struggle between trusting his emotions and gut instincts next to putting faith in mathematical algorithms such as our own Rate My Team. A great new addition to our community contributors, look out for more from Scratch next week.

Finally, our resident Draft game expert Pav A Nice Day has delivered once again, providing another essential guide that breaks down his top ten tips for Draft Day. This is his third article submitted this summer and follows on from his perfect player list.

Don’t forget, if you’ve got some analysis, scout reports or features brewing, be sure to visit our community section to submit your article.

The Hottest Topics

That lauded thread from Red Arrows was one of many key discussions that took place this week, with big ticket Fantasy assets hogging the attention.

Ironically, we’d already laid the groundwork for what was to come by asking you how much credence you put on pre-season form and how it influences your decision-making.

It didn’t end there, with this Hot Topic from The Fantasy Freak also pre-empting events and discussions to come. He asked whether we were overlooking Chelsea’s Marcos Alonso and, just two days later and following a goal against Bayern Munich, that subject resurfaced.

First, Rupert The Horse provided some vital analysis of the Blues wing-back. Then we asked if, even with his price of 7.0, Alonso was back in the game and returning to our initial squad line-ups.

Then it was Kevin De Bruyne’s turn to shine. His stellar performance and two assists in Manchester City’s stunning 4-1 victory over Real Madrid opened our eyes, once again, to the Belgian’s appeal and we swooped to chair the discussion. That extended later in the week with AceK1ght’s excellent post on the potential routes into Pep Guardiola’s stellar attack.

Following that, Kuntheman offered his views on City’s likely line-up and our options for navigating their notorious rotation policy. Meanwhile, IMember chose to focus purely on the debate raging over the City strikers, underlining his view that “Pep loves Jesus”.

Away from City, Distinctly Average was anything but with his superb post that examined our midfield options, confessing that he was troubled by the array of options on offer. Deulofail then followed up by suggesting that we were being blinded by the cast of 7.0 candidates.

Switching to the strikers, AceKn1ght returned with another popular post on the merits of West Ham United’s new capture Javier Hernandez – a player we know well and who seems perfectly suited to the role of third striker in 3-4-3 setups.

“Little Pea” offers potential, a word which sums up Manchester United’s Marcus Rashford. Overshadowed by new team-mate Romelu Lukaku, Forever Mirin certainly made a strong case to us to consider the starlet striker in his midweek Hot Topic.

While that pair are both prospects for next season, Spurs’ Harry Kane is undoubtedly a proven commodity and yet Aggero was on hand to draw our attention to the fact that pundits have claimed that the striker will be unable to sustain his scoring form. It’s fair to say that I, and many others, were not ready to accept such a theory.

Finally, and on a lighter note perhaps, this fabulous post from 1569Tippins describes a nightmarish scenario that might just haunt other experienced Fantasy managers. Tippins describes how he’s been refused entry to his work’s cash league on the grounds of his expertise, with his colleagues insisting that he accepts a handicap if he is to enter. Extraordinary stuff and a story we’re keen to track.

The Members’ Tables

FPL Virgin hogged the limelight when it came to Members’ tables this week, donating no less than three excellent new public offerings for our perusal.

He started with this view of Bournemouth’s defensive options. He followed that up with an effort which analysed those players assured of starting roles in his “Nailed On” table. Meanwhile, the third table looked at those players hooked off before the 90-minute mark, with Chelsea’s Eden Hazard topping the ranks of his “Never Finishes A Match” analysis.

If you’re a member and are yet to get to grips with the custom statistics tables, you can view this movie for an explanation of how they work. Also, remember to tag them so that people can find the tables with ease.

The Community Tournaments

There was big news this week with the launch of a first tournament from the new Community Watch committee. The aptly-named Community Watch Tournament is built around the concept of a head-to-head league made up of 20 teams, each with seven to 10 members.

If you’ve ever played one of the classic FFSUEFA team tournaments then you already know the gist. If not, then you really need to check it out and get involved.

Elsewhere, PDM is still looking for those who have finished at least one FPL season within the top 1,000 to join his Top 1K Any Season league (21265-6670), and those with at least one top 10,000 finish are invited to join Red Lightning’s Top 10,000 Any Season league. (757-400).

Also, Torres Magic’s Last Man Standing contest (44937-13340) is still open for entries, clocking up over 2000 so far.

If you are running a community tournament and would like the latest scores included in future Community Round-ups, please email us a summary of the current leaders and a link to your league, spreadsheet or head-to-head competition, at jonty@fantasyfootballscout.co.uk.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. KingOllie
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Rmt/10

    Foster
    Kompany Kolasinac Daniels Cedric
    Kdb Fabregas Alli
    Lukaku Benteke Jesus

    1. El-Kloppico
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      7.5

      Better options than Tekkers imo.. and you didnt show your bench

      1. Dr Dream
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        Better than CPL at home to Huddersfield?....he doesn't have to keep him for the season...

  2. Dr Dream
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Walker looked fantastic last night in that City team. Very strong. Having watched Chelsea these past two matches, and despite getting returns, Alonso has looked the opposite of Walker...just a bit kak....

    1. Agger
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      I've not watched Chelsea much but I've heard Alonso has looked tired and was hooked early because of a poor game?

      1. Dr Dream
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        Definitely looked like a weak point in that line up. Having said that he didn't have Hazard in front of him which may matter somewhat..

      2. Ramboros
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        I wouldn't read into players being subbed off early in pre-season.

  3. Agger
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Highlights:

    Chelsea - Inter
    https://youtu.be/w_pMfhCiolA

    Real Madrid - Barcelona
    https://youtu.be/o3CCf-uo0QA

    Monaco - PSG (Well worth watching for the free kick)
    https://youtu.be/kOc-hGIZHpk

    Man City - Spurs
    https://youtu.be/2-ePtiSf-S8

    Extended highlights (16Minutes) (In English) Man City - Spurs
    https://youtu.be/IYa9UAK7VkI

    1. El-Kloppico
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Cheers.

    2. Agger
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Arsenal - Benfica
      https://youtu.be/7tpbIZ-y8no

      Liverpool - Hertha Berlin
      https://youtu.be/SyAXotP3FJg

  4. Egg noodle
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Can anyone think of why the RMT tool rates Coutinho+Pogba higher than KDB+Willian? Quite sure vast majority will say that KDB+Willian are the better pair.

  5. ZeBestee
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Stones looks like he is coming of age. He's been scoring impressive headers

  6. Reuser
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    With Kane's ownership and price, would it be fair to say?:

    If he starts the season slowly, his price could drop quickly? (as people switch to a cheaper big-hitter).

    However, if he starts the season well, his price is less likely to increase quickly?

    Might be worth considering....

    1. Egg noodle
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Yep, that is true for anyone with high ownership really.

      1. Reuser
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        Thanks - I think this could be especially important for Kane this season due to:

        a) Historical slow starter
        b) Wembley factor
        c) Wealth of other choices that are slightly cheaper and could quickly become a bandwagon.

  7. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Can someone enlighten me about the assisters for the 3 City goals?

    1. ♤TeddyBear♤
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Get KDB

      1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        Had him since I left auto pick.
        Did he assist all 3 or what?

    2. Lone Wolf
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      KDB, Nasri, no assist

      1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        Cheers.

    3. Egg noodle
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Kun hit the post twice as well

      1. Egg noodle
        • 15 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        And Jesus missed a sitter.

        1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 4 months ago

          Thanks. Sounds great as I've opted for Kun, Kevin, Jesus

  8. Knowledgeable meerkat
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Rank 1 confirmed

    Foster (Elliot)

    Kompany, trippier, Cedric, Ake (4m)

    KDB, mane, Willian (RLC, Carroll)

    Kane, lukaku, Austin

    1. TOBY1
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Stones for Kompany? Save .5m?

    2. twoplustwo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Prefer one of the Spurs mids to Kane just at the start but it looks good; also on Austin below

    3. Legomane
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Mané Austin > Zaha Defoe?

  9. twoplustwo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Morning gang. Any thoughts? Going DDG over a Utd defender for the moment given certainty. I will be switching Dawson around with Daniels generally. I think City will start like a train so have KDB and Jesus although Sane is tempting and using the funds elsewhere.

    De Gea

    Trippier Daniels Bertie

    Ince Alli KDB Zaha

    Jesus Lukaku Austin

    Subs: Elliot, Carroll, Dawson, Rosenior

    1. TOBY1
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      I'd consider city defence over Sane. Walker is guaranteed starts and is cheaper than Sane. Likely to get a clean sheet if they keep the all and attack so much. Especially with a stronger keeper.

      1. twoplustwo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        Useful thanks, he's just pretty steep!

      2. twoplustwo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        I also think City might be vulnerable at the back but agree the opposition won't have much of the ball

    2. Agger
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Almost identical to my team

      1. twoplustwo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        We're cool!

  10. Lone Wolf
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    How is that looking?

    Foster (Elliot)
    Alonso, Trippier, Danilo, Daniels (Mee)
    Alli, Mane, Zaha, Willian (RLC)
    Lukaku, Jesus (Fletcher)

    1. Concrete
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Too much in defence?
      Like Danilo though, I'm considering him depending on more Mendy news.

  11. billnats
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Which will score more points:
    A) De Gea/Curtois & Francis
    B) Forster & Daniels

    1. twoplustwo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      I am on DDG given certainty of starts

      1. SharkyT
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        As am I seems good value and a good way into Utds defence

  12. Kante FC
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Foster, Myhill.

    Trippier, Daniels, Dawson, Mawson, Mee.

    KDB, Eriksen, Coutinho, Carroll, Romeu.

    Kane, Lukaku, Ayew.

    Looking to play 442. Thoughts?

  13. estheblessed
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Rate my team please ...

    Foster
    Lindeloff, Trippier, Daniels
    Coutinho, William, Erickson, Ward-Prowse
    Lukaku, Aguero, Chicarito

    Elliot, Rosenior, Ince, Yedlin

    1. SharkyT
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      7/10

    2. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Bench headache.
      Drop JWP to 4.5. Play Ince. Upgrade def.

      1. Uncle John from Jamaica
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        JWP worries me

  14. Waxys
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Just noticed something.

    All the players Pep has frozen it if the team Hart, Zlatan and Eto'o all have the same boisterous personality.

    Maybe it's not their footballing skills Pep doesn't like but just their personalities.

    I hope Hart goes to a bigger club than West Ham the keeper with the most golden glove awards deserves better

    1. Hairy Potter
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Pep knows what he wants each player/position to do depending on where they are on the pitch and whether they are in possession of the ball. If a player doesn't do what they are told or can't play as Pep wants them to then their days are numbered in his squad.

      Henry gave a good insight into where he was allowed to play at Barca and the clear positional responsibility that Pep gave him. He said that in one game he deviated from Pep's orders, moved out of position and scored a goal. Rather than be happy, Pep substituted Henry at halftime.

      1. Waxys
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        Yeah but Hart never got a chance to prove himself and Zlatan was doing great until he was dropped when Messi wanted to play central

    2. HammersFan
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Gee thanks :/

  15. scoreonemore
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    RMT please? Balanced?

    Foster
    Cedric ake trippier
    Zaha Willian KdB salah
    Kane lukaku j.rod

    (Elliott Carroll suttner

    1. scoreonemore
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Sorry - last bench Rangel)

    2. The Wizard of Ozil
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Actually quite like it. You've got some heavy hitters in there without sacrificing the squad. Bench sucks of course.

  16. Stinglikeabee
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Morning gang

    Help on the below appreciated.

    A - Mane, Zaha and Firminho
    OR
    B - Couthino, Richie and Morata

    1. SharkyT
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      A for me

    2. aaaaaa
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      A

    3. MasterOfCeremonies
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      A but but replace Firminho.

      I wouldn't double up on attacking Liverpool players.

  17. SharkyT
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    What's your opinions on this, changed it considerably last day or so:
    DDG (Elliott)
    Stones Alonso Yoshi (Mee Hunè)
    Sanè Willi Cout Zaha (TC)
    Kaku Austin Jesus Christ

  18. Flynny
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Who is the preferred option our of

    Tadic

    Richmond

    Thanks

    1. aaaaaa
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Richmond

    2. SharkyT
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Tadic out them for me

    3. markc123
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      I've been to Richmond and it's not nice,

      So stick with Redmond and you'll be fine

  19. ZeBestee
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Name 3 essentials at this stage:

    1. Waxys
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      KDB Trippier Lukaku

      1. Egg noodle
        • 15 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        Trippier Alli Lukaku

      2. ZeBestee
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        Why Trippier?

    2. Chandler Bing
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Kaku, KdB and Salah/Coutinho

    3. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      No one.
      No one.
      No one is essential.

      1. Waxys
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        But but ownership of Lukaku

    4. Lone Wolf
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Trippier and Lukaku for now

    5. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Essentials are a myth

    6. The Wizard of Ozil
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Tom Carroll.
      McCarthy/Fletcher.
      Elliott.

      Essential for fundraising.

      1. ZeBestee
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        Add Hunemxxxx to the list

      2. El-Kloppico
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        Loftus cheek is the one..

    7. El-Kloppico
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      a LIV mid is a must after seeing their preseason..
      I am expecting the same start of season as last year..

      Question is who from the MID minefield.

  20. Egg noodle
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    One of the problems with a 4 or 5 man defence is that your team value doesn't increase as much as everyone else, since most transfers by other managers are attacking transfers.

    1. Waxys
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      For better or worse don't forget

    2. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Thanks for making me feel better about my 4 man defence!

      1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        3 man *

      2. Egg noodle
        • 15 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        I've got a 5 man defence myself!

  21. pakornk
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Gundogan at 5.5 when he comes back should be a gem to keep like last year. (seriously why didnt FPL adjust his price??)

    1. Egg noodle
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      The 5.5 price is bait for anyone who believes that he will get lucky again

    2. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Because he's just another Allen. (In FF terms)

      1. Uncle John from Jamaica
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        Crock IMHO

    3. Waxys
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Because he's a major rotation risk

  22. Uncle John from Jamaica
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    As starters

    a) 5.5m & Naughton
    b) Daniels and McAuley/Dawson

    And if a can you tell me your 5.5m defender would be?

    Thanks all

    1. Egg noodle
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Trippier and Bertrand are the best 5.5 defenders. That's what I would get for

  23. Egg noodle
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    What's your 15 man ideal FPL team (2-5-5-3) regardless of prices?

    1. Egg noodle
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Mine is

      Foster Heaton
      Alonso Kompany Valencia Rose Walker
      KDB Coutinho Alli Eriksen Sanchez
      Lukaku Kane Aguero

  24. amit1964
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    hii

    a) stones

    b) lindelof

    what do you think?

    thank's

    1. Egg noodle
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Both pretty average options I reckon. Not sure how nailed on Stones is, but Lindelof is quite certainly not nailed on at the start of the campaign anyway.

      1. amit1964
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        my def is : trippier lindelof cedric daniels mee............should i change somthing?

        others are:
        alli,kdb,willian
        kane,luk,austin

  25. KeepCalm
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    So no good 4.0 def this season...damn

    Who you lot going with then? I reckon Long, Rosenoir, maybe one of those NEW defs

  26. Egg noodle
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Will Elliott really start or are all of us living in a bubble?

    1. El-Kloppico
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      As long as they don't recruit another keeper, I think he is the one.

    2. Hairy Potter
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      He is first choice until they buy someone else.

  27. El-Kloppico
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    RMT on 10 plz.

    Foster - Elliot
    Kompany - Trippier - Lejeune - Bertrand - Zabaleta
    Sané - Coutinho - Milivojevic - Phillips - Willian
    Lacazette - Austin - Lukaku

    + 1.0 itb, in case minor surgery is needed after GW1.

    1. SharkyT
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      7/10

      1. El-Kloppico
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        any improvement suggestion?

    2. KeepCalm
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Whats up with this Milivojevic dude? Is he any good?

    3. KeepCalm
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      I'd give it an 8/10. Solid team. Defence could be improved

  28. thegameisstrong
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Thoughts on this team?

    Foster, Elliot
    Kompany, Trippier, Daniels, Mee, Rangel
    Alli, Salah, Willian, Ince, RLC
    Kane, Lukaku, Gayle

    A few of my thoughts:

    1. Better alternatives to Kompany? Should I downgrade him to a 5.0 and upgrade Salah to KDB?
    2. Is Salah the best mid option at that price?
    3. Is Ince going to be good?
    4. Is it worth having Gayle sit on my bench in case of autosub or should I just downgrade him to a 4.5 and spend the money elsewhere?

    1. SharkyT
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Solid.
      Stone said possibly for Kompany, era a lot of stick on here but keeps finding the net in pre season

  29. amit1964
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    hii
    a) kompany+mane

    b) lindelof+ kdb

    what are your thoughts?

  30. Numb
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    HOT TOPIC: which City attacking player?

    A. Sane
    B. KDB
    C. Jesus
    D. Aguero

    Pick ONE with reasons if you like

    1. twoplustwo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Jesus

      I am confident of starts, cheaper than Kun, play a wider range of positions and I like a bit of strange 🙂

      No bad choices, I also have KDB.

      1. Concrete
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        C

    2. unlethal
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      B for guaranteed gametime