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9 August 2017 2131 comments
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Romelu Lukaku scores, but Manchester United are comfortably second best to a fluent Real Madrid in the UEFA Super Cup.

Manchester United 1 Real Madrid 2

Statistics often find themselves the wrong side of damned lies, and so it proved in the UEFA Super Cup.

Man United and Real Madrid had six shots on target each in a match controlled by the Spanish giants pretty much from first whistle to last.

David de Gea had to pull off a number of fine saves, while his opposite number Keylor Navas most assuredly did not, although the mess he made of one effort led to United’s goal.

The Madrid keeper could only parry the influential Nemanja Matic’s shot straight to Romelu Lukaku, who pounced on the rebound to halve a two-goal deficit entirely in keeping with Madrid’s dominance.

The Belgian striker, at 48.7% the most popular player in Fantasy Premier League, had an average night, but his goal will at least keep him and his large Fantasy entourage happy enough ahead of what should be a rather less testing fixture at home to West Ham on Sunday.

Paul Pogba’s owners won’t be in such high spirits, however. The signing of Matic was meant to unleash the attacking threat of the Frenchman, owned by 23.3% of FPL managers, and he did have one fine chance – a free header – that he put too close to Navas. Lukaku’s effort from the rebound was even worse.

In fact, it was Matic himself who stole the show in the United midfield, and his occasional forays forward will have encouraged the 12.1% of FPL managers who have opted for his budget 5.0 charms.

Henrikh Mkhitaryan was an occasionally sparky presence, while Pogba’s decision-making was badly off at times.

The former finishes pre-season with three goals and as many assists, Pogba just the one assist.

And yet the Armenian appears in a mere 6.1% of FPL squads despite costing exactly the same – 8.0 – as his big-name team-mate. In the Sky Sports game, the Frenchman, at 11.2m, is 1.2m pricier. Both will need to improve on Sunday.

Jose Mourinho again opted for a three-man defence, using Matteo Darmian alongside Chris Smalling and Victor Lindelof, with both Eric Bailly and Phil Jones serving European bans.

The 9.0%-owned Lindelof again failed to impress, switching off for Madrid’s opening goal, with Mourinho’s pre-match comments suggesting that the Swede was played out of necessity.

“Lindelof came from a big club with a completely different level in terms of responsibility and I would prefer to give him a little more time but we have no alternative with two players lost to suspension and Marcos Rojo is injured, so we go with Victor.”

The Red Devils defence always looks considerably more secure with Bailly in it and he will surely walk back into the side for the West Ham match. Who his partner will be remains to be seen, although the smart money is surely on Jones, who at 5.0, could well be an early season option given Lindelof’s struggles.

Another well-owned asset, Antonio Valencia (8.2%), put in a strong showing and looked particularly dangerous going forward at wing-back, although Marcelo – never the greatest of defensive full-backs – perhaps helped him out with that.

But one player who did not impress was Jesse Lingard. The United midfielder was used extensively by Mourinho during pre-season and started in a left wing-back role but looked lost.

Forty-five uninspiring minutes later, Mourinho brought on Marcus Rashford in his place and he provided a pace and intensity on the left flank so badly lacking in the first half.

The youngster did fail to take one of the few clear-cut chances United had all night, but he could well have done enough to merit inclusion for Sunday’s season opener. At just 7.5 in FPL (he is a rather steeper 11.1m in Sky), Rashford offers genuine value for money – if he gets consistent pitch-time.

That’s a big if, however, and sacrificing what could be a premium United pick on a player who doesn’t start regularly carries obvious risk.

Despite the defeat, Mourinho was bullish post-match:

“I’m really happy to be with them and I’m going to fight with them all the way, so let’s go on Sunday. Old Trafford is waiting for us and I think Old Trafford has a reason to be behind us.”

He also spoke of his continued experiment with a three-man defence…

“We used pre-season to work and try to improve things we already do and develop things we don’t do. Lots of teams are playing with three defenders and wing-backs and we played like that against Sampdoria and LA Galaxy because it’s something that maybe during the season we are going to do.”

It remains to be seen if we see the system against West Ham on Sunday. Certainly, as a wing-back, Valencia’s stock should be improved, although the role on the left appears to be a problem area. It will also open up another spot for a central defender – another factor that could aid Jones’ cause.

Manchester United: De Gea; Smalling, Lindelof, Darmian; Valencia, Herrera (Fellaini 56), Matic, Pogba, Lingard; (Rashford 46), Mkhitaryan; Lukaku.
Subs not used: Romero, Mata, Martial, Carrick, Blind.

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  1. My neck my back my Saed Kol…
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Any thoughts on this lot?

    Foster

    Kolasinac Bertrand Daniels

    KDB Salah Fabregas Iwobi

    JRod Kane Lukaku

    Subs: Fabianski RLC Mee Mariappa

    1. moz_1983
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      We have very similar sides. Therefore you have a colossal team.

      1. My neck my back my Saed Kol…
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        As do you!

    2. My name is an echo
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      nice Iwobi pick for the first few GWs. Looks sound although I personally wouldnt pick Fabs

      1. My neck my back my Saed Kol…
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Yeah he's my newest addition. Fabs a tough one, theres a few options in that position. Can't decide between him, Willian or Zaha. Been switching between them regularly.

  2. Team Cruel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Ben Mee on pens with Gray gone?

    1. Smoky Johnson
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      would be awesome. rotating him for every home game at turf moor.

    2. Ghost Gooner
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Where did you get that from??? Vokes, Barnes, Walters

    3. @persecuted_by_mods
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Where's Gray gone?

  3. Leeds2116
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    need a rank lol

    Ryan Elliot
    Daniels Mee Long Kolasanic Stephens
    KDB Willian Zaha Ritchie Carroll
    Firmino Kane Lukaku

  4. gunnerboy
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Is this team terrible due to the expensive frontline?

    DDG

    Cedric Hegazi Danilo

    Mane Zaha JWP Ritchie

    Jesus Kane Lukaku

    1. Leeds2116
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      i wouldnt go DDG

      downgrade and get a better defence imo

      1. gunnerboy
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Hmmm, I want some of United's defence and DDG is nailed.

        1. Leeds2116
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          that is a good point.

        2. Leeds2116
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          actually a nice team. have not heart of hegazi though?

          1. gunnerboy
            • 14 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            West Brom, only 4.5m and seems to be nailed.

        3. Krionos
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          I personally think DDG is a really good option for United defense, as the only other viable option is Valencia at 6.5 or Bailly at a stretch. I definitely think they will score CS though when Bailly is back in.

          As for your team, I have toyed with the expensive frontline idea, but i think it just diminishes the potential points output from defense and midfield way too much...

    2. Gooner Kebab
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      that's the price to pay for prem front - i'm doing the same.

    3. Ghost Gooner
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      DdG to 4.5 Mane to Salah and use the 1.5 on def

    4. Honeyman07 42
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Very questionable defense with your best/most expensive defender set to only start the first few.

      But unlike others feel the DDG pick is a very good one

  5. Tornado
    • 17 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Thinking benteke over firmino for the first few games

    1. Daniyal
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      same
      fancy mane rather than Firminio
      but gives good balance

    2. bvb
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      if you have a Pool mid I don't see why not, but

      Zaha Firm = 15.5m
      Salah Tekkers = 17m

  6. Jam0sh
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Thoughts about Walker? Can't see him in too many teams in here

    1. Leeds2116
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      too expensive for no goals last year

    2. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Great pick.

    3. FALCAO & MOU
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Great pick, but Kompany can do in 1 goal what he does in 2 assists, and is .5 cheaper.

  7. Tmel
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    RMT:

    Foster Elliot
    Kola Cedric Hegazi Mee Long
    Mane Salah JWP RLC Carroll
    Kane Lukaku Jesus

    I've been burned in the past benching points in the first few GWs (Michu, Dyer & Capoue spring to mind) so gone with quite an aggressive choice with a likely early WC planned (alternatively can just downgrade a forward and gradually strengthen). Thoughts?

    1. gunnerboy
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Same front three as me. I don't think you need Mane and Salah.

    2. Ghost Gooner
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Downgrade Mane to get more funds to improve def and one mid

  8. lornemalvo
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    What do you think about my team?

    Foster (Myhill)
    Alonso, Valencia, Cedric, Clark, Hunemeier
    KDB, Fabregas, Zaha, Phillips, Carroll
    Kane, Lukaku, Abraham

  9. bvb
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    why people favour DDG > Courtois?

    1. Prison Mike
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Better fixtures

    2. mcrayeps
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      mu def cover

  10. Chandler Bing
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    A. Monreal + Hegazi
    B. Ake + Dawson/Dann

    Either way, I'll have 0.5M in the bank to upgrade if someone else emerges.

  11. Captain Vantastic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Whats with Kolasinac love? Is he any good?

    1. Prison Mike
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Very attacking, played well last season in Bundersliga and played well in the Community shield.

      1. mcrayeps
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        but he will play at left back, not on left wb

  12. Prison Mike
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    A or B?

    A) Foster & Salah

    B) DDG & Mkhitaryan

    1. Daniyal
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      A

      1. Prison Mike
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Cheers

    2. mcrayeps
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      A

  13. legendaryjordan
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    So I've chopped and changed over 100 times with this team, I've now got it to the point where I'm really quite satisfied despite the bench fodder. RMT?

    De Gea - (Elliot)
    David Luiz - Valencia - Cedric - Van Aanhalt - (Francis)
    De Bruyne - Zaha - Ritchie - (Barry - Capoue)
    Firminho - Morata - Lukaku

    1. Daniyal
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Morata ...not worth his price atm

    2. legendaryjordan
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      This includes significant attacking power from every top team aside from Spurs and Arsenal. Along with the addition of Morata, this would be the only 'punt' (not going with Kane/Alli/Erikson or arsenal cover. As far as I know, it's impossible to fit attacking power from the top 6 teams, so 4 will suffice IMO)

    3. Honeyman07 42
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Feel like the Luiz and Morata money could be better spent elsewhere, especially as Morata isnt even nailed is he?
      Double United atb? maybe swap out Valencia or DDG to a player from a different side to give you better options?

  14. cescpistols1
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Best GK Combo: 4.5+4.5 or 4.5+4(Eliott)????

    1. Rödallegabomb ᴿᴮ
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      4.5 + Elliot, you'll want that 0.5 available at the point in the season.

      1. Super Pav
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Is it worth looking at the best rotating option with Elliot or a 4.5 that you can play until they get injured?

        1. Rödallegabomb ᴿᴮ
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          From my experience rotating keepers doesn't tend to end well. Having a playing, or potentially playing 4.0 is a nice option - but I wouldn't pick your other keeper based on their fixtures.

          Pick the most attractive 4.5 option based on the normal factors, fixtures, teams defensive ability etc.

          If you aren't liking how the 4.5 us playing, and Elliot looks likely to score higher in a given GW then by all means take a punt on him for your starting XI - I just wouldn't rely on him in the long run.

    2. mcrayeps
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      5+4

  15. Smoky Johnson
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    forster
    taa / francis / dann
    kdb / alli / zaha / ritchie
    firmino / kane / jesus(c)

    elliot / mee / carroll / rosenior

  16. FantasyFootballFanatic
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Is it silly doubling up on city attackers? I have KDB and am worried about leaving out Jesus

    1. ☻ Jon Snow ☻
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      I choose both

    2. Smoky Johnson
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      not at all. they are going into beast mode from gw1.

    3. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      It's silly not to. Improved side this year.

    4. Annie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Of course it's not silly, they'll score goals. The difficulty will be adding Jesus as a 3rd striker and balancing your squad, or the amount you'll need to spend on your huge sofa for the United and Spurs games.

    5. legendaryjordan
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      I do wonder how much gametime will be split between Aguero and Jesus, which is the only thing putting me off Jesus to be honest.

  17. Don Kloppeone
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Final team (he says knowing it won't be) - I think I'm happy - do we like?

    De Gea (Elliott)
    Cedric, Daniels, Kolasinac (Mee, Rangel)
    KDB, Sala, Zaha, Carroll (Atsu)
    Kane, Lukaku, Mounie

    Cheers

  18. the snazzy viking
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    These Premier League adverts on Sky Sports are actually incredible, can't wait for Friday

  19. The Man Pastore
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    What's your thoughts on this team?

    Foster Elliot
    Valencia Bertrand Stephens Francis Hunemeier
    Alli Salah Zaha TCarroll Chalobah
    Kane Jesus Firmino

    Ian doubling on SOU def too much?
    Cheers!

  20. cescpistols1
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    A. Foster + 4.5
    B. Foster + 4.0 (Elliot)

    1. mcrayeps
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      B

  21. versatile
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Is there a fantasy league code?

  22. GoonerByron
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Could do with some advice on how to lay out my draft league team.. Currently have 5 at the back (lol)..

    Forster
    PVA - Kolasinac - Luiz - Williams - Otamendi
    Alli - Salah - Ince
    Rooney - Abraham

    Bench - Elliott - Xhaka - Mahrez - Vokes

    Should I start either Xhaka or Mahrez over any of my defenders? Mahrez may still start as he's been playing in preseason and doesn't look closer to a transfer yet? I could also bring in someone like Iwobi for one of them short term and play him over one of the defenders?

    1. Pigeon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      How is your frontline so bad lol

      1. GoonerByron
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        9th pick.. Picked Alli first, then Salah as I wanted a Liverpool mid.. Meant I didn't get to pick a forward until the 28th pick lol

        1. Pigeon
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Ah no, so unlucky, not sure what to do with that lot just pray

    2. CMJC
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      No offence but that team will struggle mate

    3. buzzkill
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      In the nicest possible way you need to scrap this entire team and start again. It's a horrible team. You've blown half your budget on defence yet somehow not picked the best defender from their respective teams. And benching Mahrez is madness if you're spending that much on it.
      Bin it and start over, and that's the best advice you're going to get.

      1. VS10_
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        DRAFT TEAM

        1. buzzkill
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Ah, my mistake. Didn't read that. It's still a horrible team. Did he start picking his defenders first and wait till the end for forwards? My word.

  23. Bad Seed
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    All things being equal, who is more nailed, Monreal or Mustafi?

    1. Leeds2116
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      mustafi

  24. Scotty B
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Cedric (could swap to Dawson or downgrade to 4.0) & RLC (Could swap to other 4.5 or upgrade to JWP) are the only two players im unsure on now.
    What do you guys think??

    De Gea
    Cedric Kompany Cahill Kolasanic
    Willian Zaha Eriksen
    Jesus Lukaku Firmino

    Elliot RLC Carroll Long

  25. BirthdaYaya Toure
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Hi All

    This year I decided to start my team yesterday rather than pulling my hair out by GW3 having had pretty much had every player in my team.

    It's looking like this:

    Foster
    Walker - Daniels - Cedric
    Eriksen - Matic - Willian - Mane
    Kaku - Kane - Gabbi
    (Elliot - Mariappa - Mee - Carrol)

    Slightly concerned I have no Arsenal cover or Man City attack. Hopefully Southampton's fixtures and the balance in prices I've gone for addresses that I can join any bandwagons.

    Thoughts?

  26. Baz
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Will there not be rotation for Liverpool with Champ League on Tues? and the following Weds?

    Want Mane/Salah/Firm for their first 2 but worried they may be pulled off early/rested completely. Would be a disaster if they fall out of champ league at first hurdle

  27. dunas_dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Iwobi a good pick with Sanchez confirmed out at least for this game? Could easily become Ritchie for week 2 if necessary as would be leaving.5 in bank

  28. southernpacific
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Salah and fabregas

    Or

    Alli and tadic

    I do have kane

  29. Smoky Johnson
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    last one

    A) Jesus + Alli + Firmino
    B) Lukaku + Mané + Gabbiadini

    1. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      City Spurs n Pool

      1. Smoky Johnson
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        yes! danke schön

    2. MattyW
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      b)

    3. southernpacific
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      A

  30. ☻ Jon Snow ☻
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    I think I'm ready

    1. ☻ Jon Snow ☻
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Thoughts? 🙂

      DDG
      Danilo / Yoshida / Davies / Monreal
      Willian / Zaha / KDB
      Jesus / Kane / Firmino

      Elliot / Atsu, Chalobah, Hüne

      Planning WC around international break

      1. Smoky Johnson
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        danilo, willian are two transfers waiting to happen.
        otherwise great!