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The community was put in a spin in midweek as early festive rotation wrecked best-laid plans for Gameweek 14.

But there’s no time to dwell on teamsheet tinkering as our community writers look ahead to the best sources of goals and clean sheets, while our Hot Topic posters examine the latest theories around Spurs’ current malaise.

Club loyalty versus Fantasy Football allegiance is also discussed, as is the potential of returning managers Alan Pardew and Sam Allardyce to improve their new clubs.

Elsewhere, the statisticians in our Members’ area have been examining budget goalkeepers, creative defenders and how Jamie Vardy compares to other strikers.

We finish off our round-up with a look at the latest standings in our community leagues.

The Community Articles

The ‘crowd’, being tracked by Hutch_James, has high hopes that Chelsea and Manchester City will prosper at home against Newcastle United and West Ham respectively. However, his latest update of their views finds them less keen on Spurs’ attack after their midweek 2-1 defeat to Leicester City.

Chelsea stars, as well as goalkeepers, are on the mind of the Career Hall of Fame top five, who according to TopMarx‘s analysis, were among those caught off guard by the Gameweek 14 surprises.

Don’t forget, if you’ve got some analysis, scout reports or features brewing, be sure to visit our community section to submit your article.

The Hottest Topics

Spurs’ loss to the Foxes was their third defeat in five matches and has sparked a fire sale of assets, with three of their players, Christian Eriksen, Kieran Trippier and Ben Davies, listed among the top ten most sold players the morning after that midweek defeat.

This poor run of form has also heralded a run of new theories about why the London club is performing so badly, including A Manager Has No Name blaming the long term injury to centre-back Toby Alderweireld. Meanwhile, 42 Towels wonders whether Son Heung-min is stifling Spurs’ fluidity, and in particular the creativity of Eriksen.

Despite the decline suffered by Mauricio Pochettino’s side, Harry Kane is continuing to find the net, with his strike against Leicester his second in two matches and his seventh on the road. Reckoner points out that his steady returns put him among an elite group of strong armband candidates, even if his meagre six points against Leicester left those who captained him a little deflated.

The real-life football management merry-go-round continued this week with the appointments of Alan Pardew at the helm of West Brom and Sam Allardyce at Everton. AnzhiBabakin wondered what impact this pair of Premier League management veterans will have on their new teams.

Should they improve, these struggling sides offer a raft of value options to Fantasy managers. We canvassed your views on the best budget enablers for the coming Gameweeks to help free up vital cash.

Being a real-life football fan also came under scrutiny on our Scoutcast and this Hot Topic on how the community juggles conflicting allegiances to their club and Fantasy ranking.

Meanwhile, Gameweek 14’s teamsheets produced a fair few shocks as festive rotation struck early, including benchings for the likes of Liverpool’s Mohamed Salah and Chelsea’s Eden Hazard.  Our “Rough with the Smooth” round-up is dominated by tales of woe from those who ended this midweek set of fixtures in the doldrums.

While Doosra’s statistics, posted via G-Whizz, are unable to predict line-ups, they do at least offer an insight into the likeliest sources of clean sheets and goals for Gameweek 15.

Finally, the Fantasy Premier League’s Bonus Point System came under scrutiny this week, with FFPro questioning whether awarding points for creating big chances was too subjective for this statistical-based, objective process.

To view all our discussions, please visit our Hot Topics page.

The Members’ Tables

Newcastle stopper Rob Elliot’s benching against West Brom midweek sent shockwaves through his ownership, particularly those with a non-playing back-up such as Brighton reserve keeper Tim Krul or Crystal Palace’s out of favour Julian Speroni. FPL Virgin’s latest table looks at the best options for those in need of a reliable starter between the sticks in Gameweek 15 and beyond.

Dingo1982’s table looks at the most creative defenders, while watp73 has been specifically looking at the points potential of Chelsea’s rearguard.

Jamie Vardy’s goal against Spurs in Gameweek 14 was his second attacking return in a row and underlines his continuing potential as a third striker. Bobby6000 has been assessing how the Foxes striker compares to other forwards priced below 9.1.

If you’re a member and are yet to get to grips with the custom statistics tables, you can view this movie for an explanation of how they work. Also, remember to tag them so that people can find the tables with ease.

The Community Tournaments

Stewart Latham continues to lead Red Lightning’s Top 10k Any Season mini-league, while Konrad Struski has regained the lead in the FFS Members League from Dhruv Dharnidharka.

There’s no change at the summit of the FFScout Moderators and Contributors league, where Az is 15 points clear of second placed Anorak.

In TorresMagic’s Last Man Standing, the safety score was 36, which saw 181 players depart and 1,782 remain.

ZoumasBloomers has a commanding 25 point lead over FC Lackless in QPR Utd’s Frequent Summer Posters league for the chattiest community members over the warmest months.

Finally, the Community Watch tournament produced some nail-biting clashes in Gameweek 14, according to the organising committee’s latest update.

If you are running a community tournament and would like the latest scores included in future Community Round-Ups, please email us a summary of the current leaders and a link to your league, spreadsheet or head-to-head competition to jonty@fantasyfootballscout.co.uk.

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  1. Fantasyamateur
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    In need of some advice here guys, clueless on what to do with this squad:

    Foster
    Daniels - Mee - Hegazi - Moreno
    Salah - Richarlison - Sterling
    Agüero - Kane - Morata

    Bench: Elliot, Carroll, Dann, Chalobah.
    1FT and 1.8M ITB.

    A: Save FT and have more info and versatility for GW16.
    B: Transfer Dann to Otamendi (other options?)
    C: Transfer Chalobah to RLC
    D: ??????

    "Long" term my thinking is something like this:
    Dann --> Otamendi.
    Chalobah --> RLC
    Agüero --> Vardy
    Foster --> Courtois
    Carroll --> Up to 7M midfielder.

    Thoughts? If I bring in f.ex Otamendi, who should I then bench? Mee?

    1. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      B/ bench Heg/ Dan.

  2. I Have No Idea What I'…
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Everyone in my ML has Salah, so do I get Salah in this week? If yes, how would you do it with only 1 FT and 0.1 ITB?

    De Gea
    Mustafi Otamendi Daniels Gomez
    Sane Fabregas Hazard
    Abraham Kane Jesus

    Lossl Bertrand TCarroll S.Davis

    1. Greenbackbøøg…
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Your rank must be in the millions if you don't have Salah

      1. Optimus.
        • 15 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        I own Salah and I'm in the millions rank

      2. Sánchez
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        How so?

  3. MFPL
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    GTG?

    Pope
    Alonso Otamendi Daniels
    Hazard Salah Silva Richarlison
    Kane Vardy Niasse

    Elliot Simpson Ward RLC 0FT

    1. Futile Tinkering
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      I would rather have Ward as 1st sub.Other than that GTG

  4. TheRealDog
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Too late to get Pope? Hennessey in stead?

    1. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Get pope means another transfer for a goalkeeper in the next several weeks. Nah.

      1. FPL Virgin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        *getting

      2. TheRealDog
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        I know. No news around Heaton is annoying

        1. FPL Virgin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 4 months ago

          Apparently he is doing weights. Sounds like he won't be out for too long.

          1. TheRealDog
            • 12 Years
            8 years, 4 months ago

            Not worth getting him then. Thanks

        2. Prøfeßör …
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 4 months ago

          month's

    2. Prøfeßör …
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Hennessey or Ryan. Heaton will be back in about a months' time.

      1. TheRealDog
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        Cheers. Hennessey, Ryan or Gomes it is. Maybe just go for Hennessey and save every penny. I like to not expect much from my goalies

        1. Prøfeßör …
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 4 months ago

          Hennessey is a good option if you already have Speroni. Otherwise go with one of the other two.

    3. Yank Revolution
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Disagree with all the below, just got Pope, unconcerned about Heaton.

  5. Sancidino
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    What to do with my ft?

    Jesus»Morata (have hazard and would leave me with just otamendi for city)

    Mbemba»Moreno

    Elliot»Pope (have Fabianski)

  6. Reggie Nainggolan
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Repost

    Sane to sterling?
    And Aguero to Kane?

    Both transfers for (-4) Or Sane to sterling only

    1. machickenz
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      I wouldnt go Kane. I have him and hes been a dissapointment. I would rather do Hazard + Morata or something

  7. FPL Virgin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Question for the pros.

    What is the best gameweek range to look at?

    Members articles tend to go off the last four gameweeks ... but why not the last 6 or the last 2? Why not all games?

    And instead of the last 4, wouldn't the last 4 home games or the last 4 away games be better? For example, Hazard vs Newcastle. Wouldn't his last 4 home games be more meaningful? As would looking at Newcastle's last 4 away games?

    1. George Sillett
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Pros are on other seedier sites. Why would you be asking them ?

      1. FantasyFootballSprout
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        Wink wink

  8. machickenz
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Trade this GW..
    Monreal (vs MUN) > Christensen (vs New)
    then next GW
    Otamendi (vs MUN) > Mustafi (vs SOU). Worth?

  9. Optimus.
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    I didn't enjoy the 1st 5 Pringles Texas BBQ Sauce Chips but boy did I enjoy the last 50

    1. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      🙂

  10. Team Fosu-Mensah
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Pope
    Azpi Moreno Daniels
    Salah Sane Sterling Richarlison
    Kane(C) Morata Niasse

    Elliot, Surman, Duffy, Lowton

    2FT, 1.3m ITB

    Freeing up funds for Sane to Hazard.

    Lowton to ->
    A) Mariappa (4.1)
    B) Mbemba (4.0)

    Thanks in advance

    1. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      i'd downgrade Daniels rather than Lowton or is his injury worse than I thought?

      1. Team Fosu-Mensah
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        Considering that too...

        Who would you downgrade Daniels to? Looking at Kenny from EVE or Zeegelaar (have max 4.5)

        1. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 4 months ago

          Well that's a minefield but I would be hesitant to drop a member of the Burnley wall. Simpson!?

  11. Total Slotball
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Need Hazard.. smartest way to get him in?

    Fabianski
    Daniels Alonso Maguire Vertonghen Ward
    Salah Silva Richarlison RLC Carroll
    Kane Vardy Morata

    1 FT 0.0 ITB

    1. Team Fosu-Mensah
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Downgrade Vardy?

      1. Total Slotball
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        I'd have 6.1 to spend on a striker.. not great options. Niasse the best? But will he start tomorrow.

        1. Team Fosu-Mensah
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 4 months ago

          Niasse looks to be the “template” option right now. But yeah noobody really knows if he’ll start or not

    2. machickenz
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Downgrade Vardy is you really want too. Instead get a cheap option striker and field 4 midfielders instead of 3. Play 2 strikers

  12. Alex_thekid
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Do you think this team can survive without Hazard
    Pope Elliott
    Azpili Christensen Daniels Moreno Tarkowski
    Salah Sane Sterling Shaqiri Richaralson
    Kane Morata Niasse

    1. potatoace
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      you'd need to seriously downgrade one of Azpi or morata to make it work.
      how would you do it?

  13. hanatareka
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Any Chances for Niasse ? against HUD

    1. hanatareka
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      i heard Allardyce not very keen on playing him

  14. machickenz
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    A) Courtois + Moreno
    B) Pope + Christensen

  15. ⚽️ Dingo ⚽️
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Good to go?

    Hennessey
    Alonso / Mustafi / Moreno
    Hazard (vc) / Salah / Sterling / Richalison
    Kane (C) / Morata / Niasse

    Speroni / Loftus-Cheek / Mee / Francis

    0ft, 0.2itb

    1. Junior ⚽
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Hazard and Hennessey to Sane and DDG -8? 😉

      1. Junior ⚽
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        I'm bottling selling him. Courtois' coming in.

      2. ⚽️ Dingo ⚽️
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        😆

    2. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Nice. What's your thinking behind your captain choice, Dingo?

    3. GE
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      You did it 😉 I'm not sure yet..

      1. GE
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        But you also have Sterling, I will have no City then..

  16. DA Minnion (Former great)
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Have hazard and Salah. Gonna captain Salah with such high ownership it's the only sensible thing to do. Hazard is enough of a differential without the captaincy.

    1. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      You should captain who you think will get the most points.

      1. DA Minnion (Former great)
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        Not necessarily.You have to play the percentages sometimes.
        Anyway Salah is a great choice too.

        1. FPL Virgin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 4 months ago

          Can Salah's run of braces continue though?

          1. DA Minnion (Former great)
            • 13 Years
            8 years, 4 months ago

            Yeah quite possibly. With him mane, Coutihno they're gonna create a lot of chances and he seems to be finishing better now than ever. It's the season of his life for him.

            1. FPL Virgin
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              8 years, 4 months ago

              Very true. It seems strange that people are reluctant to captain him, though.

              1. FantasyFootballSprout
                • 8 Years
                8 years, 4 months ago

                Been stung by Liverpool Captains far too often. Plus Brighton won’t yield too many goals n

              2. DA Minnion (Former great)
                • 13 Years
                8 years, 4 months ago

                I had him as vice to hazard on Wed. Was hard to watch . Cost me big time.I think lots will captain him this week.

  17. Hotdogs
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Play one:

    A) Mee (lei)
    B) Kiko (TOT)
    C) Dunk (LIV)

    1. GuyIncognito
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Mee

    2. GE
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Mee

  18. Tmel
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Would you WC this?

    Elliot 
    Kola Daniels Otamendi 
    Salah RLC Sterling Richarlison
    Kane Morata Jesus
    (Speroni Davies Ward Carroll)

    I do have 2FT and obviously need a new keeper, would ideally like Haz as well but would have to downgrade Jesus. Or could just use the 2FT to get a keeper and something else sensible...

    1. Junior ⚽
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      No

    2. Optimus.
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Id WC the shit out of it and do Speroni > Pope

    3. GE
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      You have to use your WC before christmas so Yes

  19. SKENG
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Couldn't follow the pressers this week - any indication whether Elliot will get his place back in the starting XI for Newcastle at Chelsea?

      1. SKENG
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        Thanks, so we don't actually know

  20. thisisdiz
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Can you help me:
    Play gross or moreno?

    1. GE
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Moreno

  21. GE
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Pogba, Azpi and DeGea -> Hazard, Christensen and max 4.8 keeper (-4) good moves? Other suggestions?

    (2FT, 0.4 itb)

    DeGea (Speroni)
    Azpi/Daniels/Moreno/Mee (Duffy)
    Salah/Sane/Pogba/Richarlison (RLC)
    Kane/Morata (Niasse)

    1. thisisdiz
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      GTG..
      Maybe just do Speroni > Grant

  22. Aubaaaaa
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Bench order right?
    Elliot DCL Mee RLC

    Or should I play DLC ahead of anyone?

    Team now is:
    Fabianski
    Azpi Kola Ota Moreno
    Salah Sane Sterling Shaqiri
    Kane Morata

  23. Mulla
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Bench one pls lads??

    1) Gross
    2) RLC
    3) Niasse

    Cheers

    1. Champione
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      2

  24. Champione
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Best 5.3 def? Moreno?

    1. Yank Revolution
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Rumor is he'll be rested this week.

      1. Champione
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        just read it. I'll avoid him this week then

      2. Champione
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        thanks btw 😉

    2. Mulla
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Probably is best option in that price range alright. Possibly due a rest though as mentioned but who knows. Long term he's good I'd say

  25. thisisdiz
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Currently play Fabianski.
    Do Elliot > Courtois worth -4?

    1. Aubaaaaa
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      No not for a keeper.

    2. Mulla
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Play Fab, good for the save points. Will know more about Elliot's situation after the weekend

    3. thisisdiz
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Cheers all

  26. SuperMane Returns
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Which one guys?

    a) Lascelles to Moreno for a -4 for the decent fixtures upcoming, including 4 out of next 7 @ home, to beat the price rise, and also to give me an extra player in the squad playing in these rotation times..

    b) Wilson to Abraham as Bournemouth fixs turning shortly....

    c) Save

    1. Rash
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      C

    2. Mulla
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      A should pay back quickly, Newcastle on the slide atm, I would do it

  27. potatoace
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    do you think last game of the season the english players will give the likes of hazard , lukaku , kdb and vert a good ole " bon voyage" kicking.

    I know I would.

    1. Optimus.
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      I doubt it with Euro 2020 coming up

  28. Recoba
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Jones > (5.3 or less)
    A) Moreno
    B) Kiko
    C) save

    Rest:
    Fab Elliot
    Azpi Ward Daniels Simpson

    1. Prøfeßör …
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Moreno is a good long-term but rumours are that he will be rested v Brighton. Kiko is a good option soon too. I would say save.

  29. F4L
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Best 4.5 defender to sit first on bench and play whenever someone else gets rotated out?

    1. _figu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Dunk or Zeegelaar (would rather Kiko)

      1. F4L
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        Was thinking Dunk or Simpson. Given that this player has to play all the time I was thinking Zeegelaar is too much of a risk in case his run in the first team doesn't last much longer. Shame Kiko is 4.6.

  30. manutd99
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Lukaku to

    A) Morata
    B) Vardy
    C) Other (who)
    D) Keep

    Have and Kane and Abraham

    1. Yank Revolution
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      A