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Having assessed the budget and mid-priced midfield options available to Fantasy managers for the coming season, we now evaluate the worth of the £8.0m+ heavy-hitters.

Only 14 midfielders fall into this price bracket at the time of writing, all of whom now play for one of the “big six”.

Seven of the ten highest-scoring players in Fantasy Premier League last season were midfielders, every one of whom features in this analysis.

With 50 league goals between them last season, Mohamed Salah and Raheem Sterling‘s performances in 2017/18 have come at a cost to FPL managers with price hikes to £13.0m and £11.0m respectively.

While Sterling’s price rise has contributed to a drop in owners (the England international currently sits in just 3.5% of FPL squads), Salah is once again the most popular asset in the game with a 46.3% ownership.

Of the 14 midfielders priced at £8.0m or above, only three didn’t feature at this summer’s World Cup: Alexis Sanchez (£10.5m), Leroy Sane (£9.5m) and Riyad Mahrez (£9.0m). Participation in Russia could be a significant issue for the other 11 premium picks, with fatigue and a lack of pre-season preparation with their respective clubs set to impact on their early-season availability and form.

Sterling, Eden Hazard (£10.5m), Kevin De Bruyne (£10.0m), Dele Alli (£9.0m) and Paul Pogba (£8.0m) went deep into the tournament with England, Belgium and France and would seem most at risk of missing the first few Gameweeks of the 2018/19 season.

READ MORE: Parts one and two of our look at how the World Cup could affect FPL.

With so few premium midfield assets to discuss and all 14 playing for teams that finished in the top six of the Premier League last season, we’ll assess the big-shot midfielders by club rather than price bracket.

Manchester City

Over a third of the premium midfielder options are on City’s books. Only Mohamed Salah scored more FPL points last season than Raheem Sterling (£11.0m), whose 18 goals and 17 assists was his best ever single-season return.

Sterling’s average of 6.9 points per match was also second only to Salah (discounting Sergio Romero’s solitary seven-point appearance for Manchester United) among all FPL players. The Egyptian star was the only midfielder to have more penalty box touches and big chances than Sterling last season, meanwhile.

Fantasy managers lived in what seemed like perpetual fear of rotation from Pep Guardiola last season, but from Gameweek 11 onwards, Sterling started all but two of the league matches in which he was available for selection.

Rotation, of course, could be a very real prospect this season. Having started six of England’s seven World Cup matches this summer, Sterling would seem likely to miss the beginning of 2018/19 – or, at least, feature as an impact substitute. The former Liverpool winger failed to score in Russia this summer and looked mentally and physically fatigued by the tournament’s end.

In Riyad Mahrez (£9.0m), City have a rested and ready-made replacement for Sterling on the right flank. Priced £2.0m cheaper than Sterling, Mahrez contributed to 25 of Leicester City’s 56 league goals last year (12 goals, 13 assists) and his average of 5.4 points per match was the best by any player who didn’t play for a top-six side.

Sterling was the only City midfielder who had more shots inside the box than Mahrez in 2017/18 and, while the Algerian’s underlying statistics were generally inferior to that of his new team-mates‘, it should be noted that Mahrez played in a Foxes side that scored 50 fewer goals, had over 200 fewer attempts on goal and had almost half as many big chances than Guardiola’s side last season.

Mahrez and Leroy Sane (£9.5m), who was a surprise omission from Germany’s World Cup squad this summer, will be in many FPL managers’ thoughts as the season approaches. City’s run of fixtures from Gameweeks 2 to 7 – Huddersfield Town (h), Wolverhampton Wanderers (a), Newcastle United (h), Fulham (h), Cardiff City (a), Brighton and Hove Albion (h) – demands Fantasy investment and the pair’s non-involvement in Russia means they should play a prominent role in City’s early fixtures. Sane scored on ten occasions and assisted a further 15 strikes last season, despite only starting 27 matches.

Kevin De Bruyne (£10.0m) is a favourite of Guardiola’s and started 36 of City’s Premier League fixtures – the first league match that the Belgian failed to start fell in Gameweek 33.

Despite his involvement with his country at this summer’s World Cup, De Bruyne is a player who we can expect Guardiola to rush back at the earliest opportunity.

The former Chelsea cast-off is the creative heartbeat of the City side and created more chances than any Premier League player last season. De Bruyne also had as many shots on goal as Sergio Aguero in 2017/18, though admittedly most came from distance.

David Silva (£8.5m) is the cheapest premium route into the City midfield. Having missed eight of City’s final 21 league matches through compassionate leave and with Spain being eliminated in the World Cup round of 16, the diminutive playmaker may not – physically at least – be too jaded for the coming season. The psychological effects of his son’s premature birth are, of course, a factor, but a fit and firing Silva is a serious contender for one of our three permitted Manchester City slots. Silva averaged more points per match (5.8) than De Bruyne and Sane last season and had registered five goals and eight assists before his first absence on compassionate grounds in Gameweek 18 (Silva was to score on a further four occasions and assist another three strikes after this point).

READ MORE: The complete Members’ analysis of Manchester City

Tottenham Hotspur

Spurs’ premium assets are far from essential in the early weeks of the 2018/19 season. Five of the Lilywhites’ first seven matches are on the road, while one of the “home” games – the appealing Gameweek 2 fixture against Fulham – will again be played at Wembley as the redevelopment work on their new stadium nears completion.

Dele Alli (£9.0m) scored half as many goals last season (nine) as he had managed in 2016/17 but still averaged 4.9 points per match, helped by a career-best total of 13 assists.

Alli’s participation in Spurs’ opening fixtures looks in some doubt, given that his World Cup campaign with England ran until July 14. The former MK Dons midfielder was also plagued by a thigh injury in Russia and would appear to be in need of rest, having started 34 league games for Spurs last season.

Despite South Korea’s group-stage exit from the World Cup, Son Heung-min‘s (£8.5m) availability in August is in even more doubt: the attacking midfielder is set to be on international duty for Korea in the Asian Games and could miss Spurs’ first four league matches.

We discussed the Fantasy prospects of Lucas Moura and Erik Lamela as cover for Alli and Son in our look at mid-priced midfielders, but there is little doubt as to which premium midfielder whose return Mauricio Pochettino would covet the most.

Christian Eriksen (£9.5m) hit a career-best total of 11 league goals last season (one was subsequently awarded to Harry Kane, but not before the Dane’s FPL owners had collected five points for the strike) and was the fourth-highest scoring midfielder of 2017/18 – despite registering half the assists (ten) he had managed in 2016/17.

Mohamed Salah was the only midfielder to have more attempts on goal than Eriksen last season, while just Kevin De Bruyne topped Eriksen’s total of 95 chances created.

With Denmark having exited the World Cup in the round of 16, Eriksen could be the first of Spurs’ premium picks to return to the first-team fold ahead of the new season. The 26-year-old attacking midfielder is about as rotation-proof a selection as any £8.0m+ midfielder: the Dane started all but one of the north London side’s 38 league matches in 2017/18.

Liverpool

While Mohamed Salah (£13.0m) has seen off a possible positional reclassification in FPL this season, there was no escaping his inevitable price rise. Salah’s total of 32 strikes last season was the most any Premier League player has managed in a 38-match season and his 303 points was an FPL record.

No midfielder had more penalty box touches, attempts on goal, shots on target or big chances in 2017/18 and while it would be difficult to imagine Liverpool’s talisman (Salah played a part in over 50% of the Reds’ goals last season) matching his heroics again this year, it would be a brave Fantasy manager who went without the Egyptian.

The “fear factor” alone would be enough to warrant his inclusion in our squads: with almost one in two FPL bosses owning the former Roma midfielder at this stage, an early-season haul from last season’s Player of the Year would see non-owners soon playing catch-up.

Other Fantasy managers, of course, may baulk at the Liverpool star’s steep price tag and view a Salah-less squad as one that is far better balanced.

With a trip to Crystal Palace punctuating home matches against West Ham United and Brighton, Liverpool’s early fixtures bode well for a bumper August return from Salah.

Sadio Mane is £3.5m cheaper than Salah, starting 2018/19 – as he did last season – at £9.5m. While Salah stole the limelight from his Senegalese team-mate, Mane still managed to score on ten occasions and assist a further eight strikes. Mane is the less expensive option for a reason: his rate of 5.1 points per match was over three fewer than Salah averaged, while Salah also had more than twice as many shots on goal as Mane in 2017/18. Salah recorded almost double the amount of penalty box touches, too.

Mane started all but one of Liverpool’s leagues matches in 2018, but increased rotation in the front three positions looks a real prospect this season following the arrival of Xherdan Shaqiri from Stoke City.

A lack of squad depth meant that Jurgen Klopp’s capacity to rest Salah (who made 34 starts across the season), Mane and Roberto Firmino towards the end of 2017/18 was limited, but Shaqiri’s capture suggests that matches around the UEFA Champions League fixtures and at Christmas are now ripe for rotation.

READ MORE: The complete Members’ analysis of Liverpool

Manchester United, Chelsea and Arsenal

Jose Mourinho’s comments about Alexis Sanchez (£10.5m) and Anthony Martial starting the season up front for Manchester United are sure to rekindle interest in the Chilean midfielder.

Having played no part in the World Cup over the summer due to his country’s failure to qualify, a rested Sanchez will start his first full season with the Red Devils with plenty to prove. Nine league goals in 2017/18 represented his worst single-season tally since 2012/13, although the former Arsenal star did hit double figures for assists.

Sanchez’s goal attempts and penalty box touches were way down on his figures from 2016/17, but the Chilean’s minutes-per-chance creation average improved from 41 to 34 minutes.

Paul Pogba‘s (£8.0m) extended run to the World Cup final with France would cast some doubt over his availability in the first few weeks of the season, but big things are expected of the former Juventus man in 2018/19. The capture of Fred to play alongside Nemanja Matic could unleash Pogba in the United midfield and his underlying statistics from last season hint at greater things to come.

Only five midfielders had more shots than Pogba, despite the Frenchman only playing 27 games. Pogba’s minutes-per-chance average was better than the likes of Raheem Sterling’s and Sadio Mane’s, too. A total of 13 assists was beaten only by three City players, meanwhile. Pogba’s average of 5.1 points per match was also better than Sanchez’s (4.9).

With only Spurs of the “big six” to play in the first eight Gameweeks, United’s Fantasy assets are worthy of serious consideration.

Eden Hazard (£10.5m) and Mesut Ozil (£8.5m) are Chelsea and Arsenal’s only premium midfield representatives. Both players will play under new managers next season, following the arrival of Maurizio Sarri and Unai Emery to the Premier League.

Hazard’s future in west London remains in some doubt but were he to stay with the Blues – as Sarri desires – then the Belgian would be a strong premium midfield candidate if Chelsea are to emulate the swashbuckling style that Napoli displayed under Sarri.

Hazard has hit double figures for goals in four of the last five seasons, though will be a doubt for Chelsea’s matches in August after his World Cup exploits for Belgium. A return ahead of the double-header against Newcastle and Fulham at Stamford Bridge in Gameweeks 4 and 5 would be an appealing Fantasy prospect.

READ MORE: The complete Members’ analysis of Chelsea

No midfielder who made more than one start had a better chance creation rate in 2017/18 than Mesut Ozil, who has supplied 55 assists in his five seasons with the Gunners.

Ozil averaged fewer points per appearance last season (4.3) than all of the other premium assets above, but could find a new lease of life in Emery’s 4-2-3-1 system. Arsenal’s run of fixtures from Gameweeks 3 to 10 is hugely appealing, but with Henrikh Mkhitaryan available for £1.5m less, investment in the German international has been minimal so far: Ozil’s current 2.3% ownership is the lowest of the 14 players we have discussed in this feature.

READ MORE: The complete Members’ analysis of Arsenal

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  1. lugs
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    messing around i came up with a team of differentials that i think actually looks decent , everybody is currently below 10% ownership 🙂

    Schmeichel
    Davies-PVA-Douglas
    Sanchez-Mahrez-Ramsey-Lamela
    Laca-Vardy-Morata

    Boruc-Chalobah-Fredericks-Peltier

    1. FPL_WILDCARD
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Not sold on Vardy without Mahrez...

      1. lugs
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Maddison FTW 🙂

  2. sparty
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    Any input on my current thinking here is welcome chaps.

    Foster / Fab

    TAA, Mendy, Smalling (Kiko Femenia, Wan Bissaka)

    Martial, Salah, Sessegnon, Jota (Ward)

    Aguero, Zaha, Firminio

    1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Smalling->Shaw, TAA->Robertson

      Looking good overall.

      1. sparty
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Thanks! Interesting. I've always considered Shaw to be a risk given Young will likely start ahead of him, but maybe not for the first few weeks after the WC.

        1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Totally agree he is a risk. So is TAA. Heard Shaw is very fit and pretty sure he will start the season.

  3. Hotdogs for Tea
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    What we will see on here one minute after the GW1 team line-ups come out ? 🙂

    1. Hotdogs for Tea
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Scenes !

    2. Hotdogs for Tea
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Deulofeu, get the @&#% out of my team

    3. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Just the one game though... Many wont have a single player in it

      1. Hotdogs for Tea
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Won’t they announce the Saturday lineups on Saturday too ??? 😉

        1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Aah yes of course. 🙂

    4. Hotdogs for Tea
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      How can that $&@% Pep play both David and Bernado over Mahrez

    5. Hotdogs for Tea
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Mourinho ... just @&$# off

    6. Hotdogs for Tea
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Why did FFS tell us that (insert FPL Virgin bad pick) was nailed 😉

    7. Albrightondknight
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      It will mainly be He was meant to rested after World Cup * 11 how come the short term alternatives i picked did not start. Only got the bench starting 🙂

    8. Lone Wolf FPL
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Martial starts! Happy days!

      *About 2 hours later*

      I need to sell Martial! Did nothing and now rotation risk! You think that WC GW2 is good idea?

      1. Hotdogs for Tea
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Yes, Rate My Wildcard Team 🙂

      2. Hotdogs for Tea
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Walcott ... you complete and utter troll ... 5 goals and nothing from you 🙁

      3. Albrightondknight
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Think we have a winner. Rate my GW 2 WC team.

    9. Jafalad
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Virgin blaming FFS for failing to warn us all that so and so would not start in week 1.

  4. Gruu
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    1st RMT. Any advice would be appreciated

    Ederson
    Robertson Baily Coleman PVA
    Salah Mahrez Martial Cairney
    Aguero Firmino

    (Stekelenburg Kamara Stephens Peltier)

    1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      I like it to be honest.
      The balance gives you flexibility to change with a hit if required.

      1. Gruu
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        aye aye captain 🙂

    2. National Anthem
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Nice starting 11, however bench is weak. I'd do PVA > Sakho / Tomkins and spend funds elsewhere

      1. Gruu
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        agree, bench is very weak. The hardest thing is i'm a big fan of PVA 🙂

        1. National Anthem
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          I see. Perhaps keep only one of the Firmino & Salah duo. I have Eriksen over Salah as of now as it allows much stronger team. Set it up in a way so Salah or Kane are only 2 transfers away

    3. TheDonald
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Cairney -> 4.5 midfielder.
      Stephens -> Douglas.

      Play 5 at the back. Just a thought I'm pondering. Rationale two posts below.

      1. TheDonald
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Nevermind, Stephens is a 4.5 mid. ugh!

        1. TheDonald
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          I'm on board with your team. Weakest bench you can get, but who needs money on the bench anyway as long as your 11 play (and your bench plays and gets 2 points backup)?

          1. nonprophet
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 5 months ago

            That's what I thought last year. I expect more rotation this year. Need at least on bench player

          2. Gruu
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 5 months ago

            that's right, really difficult to upgrade bench.
            Thank for your explanation for Cairney vs Douglas below, will monitor it for sure

  5. TheDonald
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    What's the point of owning a 5.0 midfielder like Cairney over Barry Douglas? Same price of £5.5.

    Last season:
    Cairney: 5 goals, 5 assists.

    Douglas: 5 goals, 14 assists
    Also picks up an extra point for every goal he scores and 3 extra points for a clean sheet

    1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Cairney gives better balance to a team funds wise I suppose.
      Lets you bump up defence/attack

      1. TheDonald
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        I'm suggesting go with a £4.5 mid and Douglas, as an alternative to Cairney and £4.5 def.

        You replied to me on the previous page: "I don't think Douglas will get many clean sheets and doherty is .5 cheaper if you want a wolves wing back"

        My point is this:

        "Fulham can get 4 times more clean sheets than Wolves.

        Cairney would still be no better off than Douglas (or Doherty) for clean sheets.

        You don't see any attacking potential for Douglas, or Doherty, that's advantageous over Cairney's pathetic 5 goals and 5 assists in the Championship last season?"

        I'm coming across as being a know-it-all dickhead, I don't mean to. But just playing devil's advocate throwing alternative strategies around.

        1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
          • 16 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          No it's food for thought although personally if I was going to go for a defender at 5m instead of a 5m defender I would go for Burnley.
          I have set on Bailly Robertson Azpi Daniels and 4.0
          Daniels to start if Bailly does not.
          I even have 1m in the bank that I do not feel is worth spending based on gw1.
          As it was pointed out a few times on here everton will not be a good defensive team and will not be playing wingbacks.
          Which means coleman and Baines will be less effective.

          I did look at five at the back and two 4.5 mids but it seems to limit flexibility if changes need to be made.

    2. Bad Kompany
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      4.0 defender fodder vs. 4.5 mid fodder so not really the same price

      1. TheDonald
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Of course - good point.

        I guess my post was in response to seeing Cairney in some actual starting 11s, in which case I'd rather have Douglas.

        1. Bad Kompany
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Wolve's first 6 fixtures are woeful and most people wild card early. Also the epl is different from the chapionship so I think that Douglas will have to play a lot more deffensively. Also, the defences will be better

    3. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      I think Cairney was injured a lot of last season? Might be misremembering though

    4. I Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Agreed. Seeing a lot of people with 5.5 and 5.0 midfielders but I don't fancy any of them to outscore the best defenders at that price point.

    5. Cofinho
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Douglas. Just him from Wolves

    6. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      I have switched to your idea by the way I got rid of Cainey got another 4.5 and got a burnley defender instead.
      I can see the logic when it is the likes of a Burnley defender not a promoted team though

  6. Kizza_10
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    Is 5 at the back/this team viable until the early wildcard comes in to play ?

    Ederson
    Davies Shaw Bellerin Robertson Coleman
    Sane Salah Silva
    Aubameyang Zaha

    Subs: Boruc, Neves, Masuaku, Madine

    1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      5 at the back, of course it's viable. Better options than your bench at their price points imo.

    2. It’s a Knockaert
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      That’s what I did last season and I started incredibly but then fell as soon as I went to 4 atb-changing at the wildcard would work out very well imo

    3. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Don't like Bellerin but besides from that it's looking good.

    4. Brosstan
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      I have 5 big hitters at the back right now. Granted, one of them is TAA who wont play at least the first GW, but I really like the look of it. Pretty easy to get in Salah, Auba/Kun and a City mid too.

      1. Kizza_10
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Can I ask what your back 5 is at the moment ?

  7. JayJay96
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    Hey guys! Thoughts on this? Gone for a few gambles - but it’s needed!

    Ederson - Ryan

    Azpilicueta - Robertson - Coleman - Vestergaard - Tomkins

    Salah - Mahrez - Keita - Costa - Cavellairo

    Aguero - Arnautovic - 4.5

    1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Decent balance not keen on any southampton though.

  8. Big_Andy_GAWA
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    Anyone considering Richarlison at all? Good opening fixtures and has had good pre-season form. Maybe worth a look over Defelou...??

    1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      No Richarlison faded badly towards the end of last season.
      Seems like a one trick pony.
      Defelou is a like a Spanish Aiden McGeady: capable of amazing goals, but most of the time loads of skills and no end product.

      1. Big_Andy_GAWA
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        He could get off to a flyer like last season on the other hand, though... 🙂

      2. Scratch
        • 16 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        McGeady is incapable of everything except running down cul de sacs and losing possession.

    2. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      His post-Silva stats sort of stink from last season. It is somewhat understandable that you can attribute that to fatigue given he also played half a season in Brazil before joining Watford but I doubt we'll see him with such freedom in an attacking side this summer under Gracia.

      1. Big_Andy_GAWA
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Interesting. Perhaps one to monitor. Cheers, Parm. 😎

    3. I Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Good preseason form? Watford have played one game.

    4. Pukki Party
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      In my team, big fan.Thinking summer rest did good after a long season.

  9. WE GO FOR IT
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    For everyone looking into United defense:

    Mourinho: “The back four today (Valencia, Bailly, Smalling, Shaw) will probably be the back four that we start the season with."

    1. Cofinho
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Thanks

    2. jia you
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Bailly is nicely priced this season, out best CB by some way!

    3. UpAndAway
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Martial looks like he'll lead the line in the first few GW's. Could hit the ground running!

    4. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      weird quote, do you have a source?

  10. OPTA FPL
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    Anyone getting Alisson? 5.5M I think

    1. Random Name
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      No

    2. lugs
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      should he not be 5mil , the same as Karius and Mingolet ?

      1. Random Name
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Yup, the most expensive goalkeeper of all time will be priced the same as Karius

        1. Scratch
          • 16 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Wouldn't be surprised if they do price him at £5.5m all the same. And tens of thousands of Liverpool fans will put him in their teams immediately.

        2. lugs
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          his transfer fee has nothing to do with it , FPL made the prices this year assuming Karius was gonna be Liverpools number 1 goalkeeper and priced him at 5mil , Allison will be the new number 1 and should also be 5mil imo ,

          i'll put it another way , if De Gea was sold to Madrid and Utd brought in someone shite like Joe Hart as their new number 1 what price do you think he'll be ?

        3. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          He will be priced 5.5 I'm pretty sure of that. Karius is priced 5.0 because he suxx

          1. lugs
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 5 months ago

            you're probably right , but Karius kept 10 clean sheets in 19 league games last season , that's pretty impressive stats to be priced at just 5mil

            1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 5 months ago

              Agree. But would you feel confident having him in your squad every week? I certainly would not

              1. lugs
                • 8 Years
                7 years, 5 months ago

                fair point 🙂

    3. jia you
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Waste of a Liverpool spot if they hit the ground running most will probably want three of Salah, Mane, Firmino, Robertson, TAA.

    4. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Don't think so but believe he will be worth 5.5.

    5. Joggers Nipple
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      no

  11. Piksau
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    Thoughts?

    DDG Fabianski
    Dunk Tripper Trent Daniels Maguire
    Xhaka DeBruyne Lingard GroB Mkhi
    Firmino Lukaku Arnautovic

    0M ITB

    1. ajones1608
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Like it a lot, but I would be very surprised if Trippier, Trent & Lukaku started the first couple of games, due to world cup.

      Maguire & KDB a risk though.

      Maybe look to bring those in later?

      1. Piksau
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Was looking to change Trippier myself.
        Lukaku i feel will get his rest and not feature much if at all during the pre season tour. He is essential to Utd and i think he should start the 1st game. Rashford, for this very reason, is a risk.
        Trent should start as Liverpool defence is shaky and Klopp will look to him to shore it up.

        Any alternatives?

    2. jia you
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Haha, this needs a severe rethink mate! Lukaku, KDB, Lingard, Trippier, TAA, Maguire all very very unlikely to play the first game or two!

    3. Reuser
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Could be a very good wildcard team during the first International break (gw4) - but not to start the season with.

  12. FPL Footy Show Pod
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    What formations are we lining up with? Seeing a lot of 4-4-effing 2’s

    I’m on the trusted 3-4-3

    1. SW6
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      3-5-2 at the mo. Will probably be 3-4-3 if Fulham ever get round to signing Mitrovic

    2. Jafalad
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      343. Two forwards is asking for trouble.

    3. Albrightondknight
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      442 that can also be 451

      1. Albrightondknight
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        I obviously like trouble 🙂

    4. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Shifting between 5-2-3 and 4-3-3 is very likely

    5. chilli con kone
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      3-5-2

      MIDs seem to be outscoring forwards in general

    6. Hotdogs for Tea
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Depends on the players you pick 🙂

    7. Hotdogs for Tea
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Mids outscored forwards last season, and were cheaper too ...

  13. diesel001
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    The Open - so weather dependent. All the leaders pretty much teed off in the first half of the day (before 12.30 ish). Not really fair on some of the later starters.

    Ryan Moore interesting now - high on the leaderboard and an early start tomorrow after the greens have been watered.

  14. Football Weekender
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    Team changing daily at the moment 😆

    This is where I’m up to at present...

    De Gea
    Robertson • Mendy • Coleman • Cedric
    Salah • Mahrez • Martial • Lamela
    Aubameyang • Zaha

    Boruc • Cairney • Quaner • Wan-Bissaka

    Leaves £0.5m ITB. If Schmeichel goes to Chelsea then DDG & Cedric could become Schmeichel & Shaw?

    If Emerson becomes a starter at Chelsea then maybe change Cairney to a £4.5m and upgrade Cedric to Emerson?

    1. It’s a Knockaert
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Like it

    2. Kizza_10
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Very solid team, the only player that worries me is Mendy, I’m not sure he will start the season

    3. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Nice one!

  15. Peace-o
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    So Stefano Sturaro to either Wolves or West Ham

    https://youtu.be/JLFHEGj1GM4?t=8s

    1. Zilla
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Legend Sturaro will surely stay to make this new dude Ronaldo learn from him

    2. I Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Can't believe a Premier League team is actually going to pay us good money for him. Do they not bother to do any scouting and just assume he's decent because he plays for Juve?

  16. Scotty B
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    Juan Mata nailed Man United attacker @6.5 for first few weeks?

    1. Z
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Him or Martial....who knows

    2. Badluck Jonathan
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Nailed is such a strong word

      1. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Him and Martial as of now are both nailed for GW1.

    3. Scapegoat Salah
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Imagine a 6.5 Mata back in his Chelsea days...

      1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Imagine a 6.5 Fabregas back in his Arsenal days

        1. Scapegoat Salah
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Yeah good one!

    4. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      1M more gets you Martial....

      1. DantheManinaPan
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        How much more does Martial actually offer though?

        1. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Martial can be an explosive player on his day,, capable of double digit hauls.

          Young lad with something to prove in comparison to Mata who isn’t exactly fighting for a first team spot or trying to prove something as he knows his place within the club and is probably comfortable with it.

          Personal preference, Martial the better pick IMO.

        2. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Also, based on last season ;

          Martial
          9G
          6A
          1572 minutes played

          Maya
          3G
          5A
          1919 minutes played

  17. Hotdogs for Tea
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    🙂

    1. Deulofail
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      🙁 *

    2. Business Cat
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      😐

      1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Ruth?

  18. Twelve years a slave
    • 15 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    We want this seasons premium mids at non premium prices, who will they be?

    1. Twelve years a slave
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Interestingly all of this seasons premium mids were also premium priced last season which perhaps shows that very few players actually cross the line

      1. thorvaldsson
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Sigurdsson/ Shaqiri could possibly do it.

    2. The 12th Man
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Pogba when he returns.
      Maybe Mikitaryan
      Willian if he stays

      1. Twelve years a slave
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Miitaryan probably looks the most likely to breach the gap, Pogba is already classified as premium. Perhaps one of the new boys at West Ham

        1. The 12th Man
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          I nearly put one of the West Ham players in but hesitant at putting a new player in with no premiership experience

    3. Oven Glover
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Demarai Gray, fixtures, budget friendly, potential “new Mahrez”. Hopefully he’ll find a way to get an end product this season. Always passed the eye test for me at least.

      1. Twelve years a slave
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        What the list also shows is that it is very difficult for a player outside of the top Six clubs to gain enough points to justify an Eight Million price. Really only Mahrez, and that is debateable as Leicester did win the league.

        Payet was another rare exception

        1. Oven Glover
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Put him on your watchlist at least 😉

        2. Russell
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Dempsey was a rare example

    4. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      I was just about to type this very question 😆

      Players with potential to smash their valuations!

      Lookman and Deulofeu look like quality talents imo. They could very easily do a Mahrez.
      Unfortunately it sounds like Lookman is moving on.

      Yarmolenko and Anderson at 7.0m have potential, but with their fixtures 7.0m is a bit of a pricey punt.

      I honestly think Pogba, although already borderline premium at 8.0m, could kill it this season. He averaged more goals and assists per 90 than KDB last season (0.79, to 0.76). Yep. That's amazing, and Fred should make him even better. But the World Cup has ruined that punt.

      Chelsea and Arsenal mids like Willian, Pedro, Ramsey, Mkhi all could do really well, it depends how they're used in their new systems.

      I want to say Mirallas or Walcott, but I worry they'll share gametime given they're both so direct.

      Ultimately, we don't know yet, but hopefully pre-season will give us clues.

      1. Twelve years a slave
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        This time last season we were talking about how there was a magnificent 7. There were lots of great options at Seven Million. None of them have gome on to be over 8m this season

        https://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2017/07/13/scout-notes-pre-season-round-up-27/?hc_page=1#hc_comment_15857421

        1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Zaha and Arnie would have had they not been reclassified

          1. Twelve years a slave
            • 15 Years
            7 years, 5 months ago

            Yes, that is probably true, but did they only perform well because they were playing as strikers but getting midfielders points,

          2. Karan_G14
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 5 months ago

            Yup agreed.

        2. Piggs Boson
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Interesting. 6.5 looks like a nice sweet spot this season.

          Could be another dud season for budget breakouts, but you never know. I started with Mahrez the season he went nuts after looking through some member's stats, 5 minutes before the deadline. Sometimes you just have to go with your gut and have an exit strategy.

          I have a feeling about Deulofeu. I've been watching a few of his matches at Barca and the appearances for Watford and he looked unplayable at times. Quality decision making, and really quick feet and change of direction.

          I hear good things about Jota, and he caused Ajax problems in the friendly. I'm sceptical though, he's never played at this level before.

          1. meerlight
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            7 years, 5 months ago

            Maddison just could step up and fill mahrez' boots. Maybe too punty to start with, but lets see what he does in preseason

            1. Piggs Boson
              • 14 Years
              7 years, 5 months ago

              Ooh, good call. He's on the pre-season watchlist!

      2. The 12th Man
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Would love Lookman to break out at Everton but have a feeling he could be back at Leipzig

      3. Lovren an elevator
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        How about Siggy?

        1. Piggs Boson
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Very possible!

    5. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Izquierdo at 6m got potential, better value than Gross imo

      1. Piggs Boson
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Good shout!

    6. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Mkhi

  19. Whats the Mata?
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    Laca or Auba?
    1.5m or pens?

    1. Kristobal
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Auba for me.

    2. SAKA AND EMILE SMITH ROWE
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      AuBoomerang

    3. Coot
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Boom shaka..

  20. squ1rrel
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    A. Jota and Coleman/Baines/Emerson
    B. Martial/Rambo/Willian and Cedric

    1. GreennRed
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Jota and Seamus

      1. Dead Balls
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Jota playing against Coleman first game so negative pick for me so not sure I want my player scoring against my defender Jota and Douglas to rip into the Everton rmt would be a heads up on OR

  21. scoreonemore
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    Ederson
    Shaw Robertson Tomkins
    Ramsey Salah mahrez Cairney
    Aubameyang Firmino Jiménez

    Speroni Cedric costa Peltier

    Scores out of / 10 ??

    1. GreennRed
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      7.8

    2. Krafty Werks
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      7

  22. EmreCan Hustle
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    Which seems better?

    A) Wood and Mkhi
    OR
    B) Austin and Ramsey

    Thanks.

    1. squ1rrel
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      A

    2. SAKA AND EMILE SMITH ROWE
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      A

      1. EmreCan Hustle
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Cheers guys.

  23. Maddi Son
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    Who is more nailed out of Wan Bissaka, Peltier & Schelotto? (Or any other 4.0 defender options)

    1. EmreCan Hustle
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Peltier

    2. SAKA AND EMILE SMITH ROWE
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Peltier and Wan-Bissaka

    3. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      AWB, Peltier & Bennett (Wolves) seem the best bets but have to keep an eye on pre-season games.

    4. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Bennet

    5. WVA
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Wan B

  24. ritzyd
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    https://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/comment/18381601 To salah or not to salah - vote here ^

    1. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Can I not just vote here?

    2. Oven Glover
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Not to, and join the No Salah league. 51-141909.

  25. Davido989
    • 15 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    Liverpool fans, Twitter at 10pm.

    1. Drexl Spivey
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Fekir?

      1. Rainer
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        No more of that Fekir, Karius!

      2. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Nope, announcing Liverpool's new number 3 GK

    2. Red Dagger ✪
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Cool.

  26. Scapegoat Salah
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    Best striker fodder at 4.5m? Literally just the one to get most minutes really.

    Thinking Quaner or Kamara?

    1. Over Midwicket
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Kamara.

      1. Scapegoat Salah
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Cheers. Even if Mitrovic signs?

    2. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      We'll know likely minutes closer to GW1.

    3. BRONALDINHO
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Either Kamara or Ward

    4. Prøfeßör …
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Kamara.

      1. Scapegoat Salah
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Thanks all

    5. Fantastisk
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Quaner

  27. WVA
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    Salah or no Salah?

    Ddg
    Azpi Coleman Pva Douglas
    Salah Eriksen Mahrez Cairney
    Auba King
    Speroni Ward Wan B Sorloth

    Ddg
    Azpi Robbo Mendy Bavies
    Mahrez Martial Willian Lamela
    Auba Firmino
    Speroni Bellerin Ward Kamara

    1. FPL Scoop
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      your no salah team can be better than that. martial willian lamela all too punty, ddg not worth it with the other options available imo. bavies also not worth 6.0 imo given the amount of spurs fullback rotation, you could downgrade him and possibly even azpi.

  28. Zebrahimović
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    I'm way more inclined to go with Hughes over Deulofeu for a Watford cheapy - 0.5 cheaper, looks pretty nailed and decent points returns when he wasn't injured.

    1. Flynny
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Me too

      1. Zebrahimović
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        He had some great games last season. I'd like to see some form from Deulo and see if he's nailed first. Looks like Hughes will be because when fit he was key to Watford's game.

  29. Rash
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    After a nice break from the site over the summer i have decided to see if becoming a member can help save me from repeated FPL mediocrecy.. cue worst ever finish 😆

  30. soup natsi
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    I made this awhile ago, no idea how it looks now

    Ederson, 4.0
    Coleman - Shaw - Mee - Cedric (Femenia)
    Salah - Mahrez - Lamela - Jota (Walcott)
    Auba - Zaha (Jimenez)

    1. Zebrahimović
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Retro