Scout Notes

Arnautovic scores again as Pochettino faces midfield headache

Marko Arnautovic was on the scoresheet for the fourth match in a row as he continued as the spearhead in the West Ham attack, while Diogo Jota demonstrated his eye for goal with a strike in Wolves’ 2-1 defeat at Derby County.

Christian Eriksen was given another start in Tottenham Hotspur’s encounter with Barcelona in Los Angeles, while Southampton kept their first clean sheet of pre-season in a 2-0 win over Dijon.

Newcastle United produced a backs-to-the-wall performance to draw 0-0 with Porto, meanwhile.

Our latest instalment of Scout Notes rounds up the goals, assists, team news, injuries and tactical talking points from the five remaining pre-season friendlies contested over the weekend.

Ipswich Town 1-2 West Ham United

  • Goals: Felipe Anderson (£7.0m), Marko Arnautovic (£7.0m)
  • Assists: Ryan Fredericks (£5.0m), Sead Haksabanovic

It’s five goals in four pre-season friendlies for Marko Arnautovic (£7.0m), who already features in over a quarter of Fantasy Premier League squads despite his positional reclassification.

Unlike Wilfried Zaha, another midfield star of 2017/18 who has been listed as an FPL forward for the coming season, Arnautovic has featured as an out-and-out striker in all of his appearances over the summer and led the line again at Portman Road over the weekend.

Manuel Pellegrini’s starting XI looked near to full-strength, with Felipe Anderson and Andriy Yarmolenko (both £7.0m) flanking Arnautovic in attack and Jack Wilshere (£5.0m) once again playing in the central midfield trio.

Anderson opened his West Ham account after just three minutes of the match in Suffolk, the Brazilian bundling home a teasing Ryan Fredericks (£5.0m) cross.

Angelo Ogbonna and Fabian Balbuena (both £4.5m) looked shaky at the heart of the West Ham defence and were dissected far too easily for Ellis Harrison’s equaliser.

The two centre-backs were bystanders again shortly afterwards when an unmarked Harrison headed against the post.

Arnautovic’s winner was all of his own making, the Austrian collecting a Sead Haksabanovic pass in midfield and surging through the Ipswich defence to prod the ball past home goalkeeper Bartosz Bialkowski.

Lukasz Fabianski (£4.5m) made his debut for the Hammers between the sticks.

Declan Rice (£4.5m), listed as a defender in FPL, once again impressed in central midfield after replacing the mediocre Pedro Obiang (£4.5m) in the second half and is an “out of position” asset to monitor in the Hammers’ two remaining pre-season friendlies – albeit not one who would likely offer much by the way of attacking threat.

Yarmolenko was switched to a “number 10” role after the introduction of Robert Snodgrass at half-time.

WEST HAM UNITED (4-3-3): Fabianski; Fredericks, Ogbonna, Balbuena (Diop 71′), Masuaku (Zabaleta 71′); Obiang (Rice 71′), Kouyate (Snodgrass 46′), Wilshere (Noble 46′); Yarmolenko (Martinez 60′), Anderson (Haksabanovic 60′), Arnautovic (Cullen 81′)

Tottenham Hotspur 2-2 Barcelona (3-5 penalties)

  • Goals: Son Heung-min (£8.5m), Georges Kevin-N’Koudou
  • Assists: Christian Eriksen (£9.5m), Anthony Georgiou

Mauricio Pochettino assuaged fears of an injury crisis in his midfield after the International Champions Cup match with Barcelona at the weekend.

Already without Dele Alli (£9.0m), Eric Dier (£5.0m) and Mousa Dembele (£5.0m) after their participation in the World Cup, Pochettino was devoid of the services of Erik Lamela (£6.5m) and Victor Wanyama (£5.0m) for Sunday’s match in Los Angeles and lost Moussa Sissoko (£5.0m) to a hamstring injury midway through the first half.

Speaking of Sissoko’s early withdrawal, Pochettino told the club’s own media channel:

Yes, I think it’s minor. Maybe he was a little bit tired, but I think it’s not a big issue. We will wait… the next few days to see what happened.

Erik (Lamela) was, after the game against Roma, a minor muscle injury, that’s why he’s here with us and we hope he can play against AC Milan.

Victor (Wanyama) has gone back with Tashan (Oakley-Boothe) to London to see the doctor. I think it was the same problem as last season in his knee. We will assess him in the next few days and see what happens.

Sissoko had originally lined up in central midfield with youngster Luke Amos, with Christian Eriksen (£9.5m) starting in front of the pair in a 4-3-3/4-2-3-1.

The withdrawal of Sissoko on 35 minutes forced winger Lucas Moura (£7.0m) inside, with substitute Georges Kevin-N’Koudou being stationed on the flank. The versatile Moura was to play as Spurs’ central striker in the second half after the exit of Fernando Llorente (£6.0m) at half-time.

Ben Davies (£6.0m) started his second successive match at centre-back and, with Toby Alderweireld and Jan Vertonghen (both £6.0m) also yet to return from their post-Russia break, there is a strong chance the Welshman could line up at centre-half in the Gameweek 1 encounter with Newcastle United. Davinson Sanchez (£6.0m), at least, returned as a substitute in this match after his World Cup exertions.

With Davies’ FPL appeal rooted in his ability to couple an attacking threat with clean sheet returns (no defender created more chances than Davies last season), his deployment at centre-back would perhaps strengthen the case of right-back Serge Aurier (£6.0m) as an early-season route into the Spurs backline.

Eriksen went close with two free-kicks – striking the woodwork with one of them – as Spurs fought back from 2-0 down to take the match to penalties. Both of the Lilywhites’ goals came from blocked shots as Son Heung-min (£8.5m) and N’Koudou followed up efforts from Eriksen and youngster Anthony Georgiou.

Georgiou missed the decisive kick in the penalty shoot-out as Barcelona ran out 5-3 winners.

TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR (4-2-3-1): Gazzaniga (Vorm 62′); Aurier, Carter-Vickers, Davies, Walker-Peters (Sanchez 46′); Amos, Sissoko (N’Koudou 35′); Son, Eriksen, Moura (Georgiou 62′); Llorente (Skipp 46′)

Derby County 2-1 Wolverhampton Wanderers

  • Goal: Diogo Jota (£6.5m)
  • Assist: Ruben Neves (£5.0m)

Diogo Jota (£6.5m) ended Wolves’ three-match run without a goal but couldn’t help his team to a first win in five, as Nuno Espirito Santo’s side fell to a 2-1 defeat at Pride Park.

The match saw Joao Moutinho (£5.5m) make his Wolves debut alongside Ruben Neves (£5.0m) in central midfield and the new arrival seems set to share set-piece duties with his fellow Portugal international on the basis of what we saw at Derby over the weekend.

Barry Douglas was, of course, a prominent figure at dead-ball situations last season but his shock departure for Leeds United in midweek has had a ripple effect elsewhere in the squad; his replacement, versatile debutant Jonny, is no stranger to playing in Douglas’s position but is predominantly right-footed and doesn’t offer that same teasing delivery from the left flank in open play.

Moutinho’s deployment in the centre of midfield saw Romain Saiss (£4.5m) drop back to centre-half, where he has featured on umpteen occasions for Morocco.

Jota’s strike, sandwiched by goals for Derby’s David Nugent and Mason Mount, came after Neves had struck the bar with a trademark long-range shot. Neves – who had 90 attempts on goal from outside the box last season – had earlier whistled an effort from distance just past the post.

Leo Bonatini (£5.0m) and Raul Jimenez (£5.5m) both got 45 minutes as the spearhead of the Wolves attack, with Jota and Helder Costa (£5.0m) stationed either side.

Ivan Cavaleiro (£5.5m) was Wolves’ only notable absentee this weekend and was said to have missed out with a knock – although speculation remains rife of a possible move away from Molineux for the Portuguese winger.

WOLVERHAMPTON WANDERERS (3-4-3): Patricio (Norris 61′); Saiss (Bennett 61­’), Coady, Boly; Doherty, Neves, Moutinho (Gibbs-White 45′), Jonny (Giles, 61′); Costa, Bonatini (Jimenez 45′), Jota (Enobakhare 73′)

Dijon 0-2 Southampton

  • Goals: Shane Long (£5.0m), Manolo Gabbiadini (£6.0m)
  • Assists: Ryan Bertrand (£5.0m), Charlie Austin (£6.0m)

Angus Gunn (£4.5m) has been promised further pitch-time by manager Mark Hughes after the young goalkeeper made his Saints debut in the 2-0 win over Dijon FCO at the weekend.

Speaking to the club’s website after their week-long training camp in France came to an end, Hughes said:

He’s (Gunn) going to get more minutes in the next two games as well. I think that’s important. He’ll experience St Mary’s, and that will be a box ticked for him.

Southampton entertain Celta Vigo and Borussia Moenchengladbach this week in their final two pre-season fixtures, with Alex McCarthy (£4.5m) seemingly still in pole position to start 2018/19 as the Saints’ number one – although Fantasy eyes will be on the respective minutes the two goalkeepers are given in the two forthcoming matches at St Mary’s.

Cedric Soares and Maya Yoshida (both £4.5m) are yet to feature in pre-season following their World Cup exploits, although budget defender Jan Bednarek (£4.0m) did return to the Saints’ side after his own participation in Russia with Poland.

Sam McQueen, another £4.0m-rated defensive asset, began on the right flank in Cedric’s absence.

Having featured at centre-back in Southampton’s previous three July friendlies, Ryan Bertrand (£5.0m) returned to a more familiar left wing-back role and set up Shane Long (£5.0m) for the Saints’ opener.

Long was replaced by Charlie Austin (£6.0m) at the break and the former Queens Park Rangers striker collected a fortuitous assist for Southampton’s second after his sliced volley fell into the path of Manolo Gabbiadini (£6.0m), who prodded home from close range.

That Hughes seems keen on fielding two recognised forwards in this 3-5-2 set-up would seemingly bode well for Austin’s chances of a Gamweek 1 start, but it was the Saints’ first-half strike partnership that the Welshman reserved his praise for:

I thought it was important to get Shane back involved. He’s missed a little bit through injury, so it was good that he came back in. I thought Shane and Gabbi in the first half were really bright in their work and caused them a number of problems.

Stuart Armstrong (£5.5m) began the match as the furthermost forward central midfielder, with Mohamed Elyounoussi (£6.5m) and Nathan Redmond (£5.5m) trialled in “the hole” in the second half.

SOUTHAMPTON (3-5-2): McCarthy (Gunn 46′); Hoedt, Vestergaard, Bednarek (Stephens 46′); Bertrand (Targett 75′), Romeu (Ward-Prowse 66′), Hojbjerg (Davis 46′), Armstrong (Elyounoussi 46′), McQueen (Reed 66′); Long (Austin 46′), Gabbiadini (Redmond 66′)

Porto 0-0 Newcastle

Florian Lejeune‘s (£4.5m) season could be over before it has even begun. The severity of the French centre-half’s knee injury was confirmed by manager Rafael Benitez after the 0-0 draw with Porto at the weekend:

The reality is we have lost Lejeune – he has a cruciate ligament injury, so we will lose him for a while. He will need an operation, and he will need some time. We needed a centre-back before [Lejeune’s injury] and still we need maybe another one. It’s bad news about Lejeune but to see Fabian Schar doing well is important; he will give us this extra option we didn’t have.

Schar (£4.5m) could be the main beneficiary of Lejeune’s prolonged absence, having joined the Magpies from Deportivo La Coruna last week. The Swiss defender made his debut as a 62nd-minute substitute for Ciaran Clark (£4.5m), who will also have designs on that second centre-back spot alongside Jamaal Lascelles (£5.0m).

Martin Dubravka (£5.0m) produced a heroic display between the sticks as the Newcastle goal led a charmed life, with Porto hitting the woodwork on two occasions.

Dwight Gayle (£6.0m) could be set for the exit at St James’ Park, meanwhile. Joselu (£5.0m) started his third successive friendly as the Magpies’ lone striker, with Gayle once again being completely overlooked – as he had been at Hull City last weekend – by Benitez.

United are only awaiting a work permit before a deal to bring Mainz striker Yoshinori Muto to the club can be finalised, while speculation is rife that West Bromwich Albion’s Salomon Rondon is bound for the north-east in a cash-plus-player swap with Gayle.

Paul Dummett (£4.5m) made his first start of pre-season in what was something approaching Benitez’s first-choice side, although Kenedy (£5.0m) was missing once again after the birth of his child.

NEWCASTLE (4-2-3-1): Dubravka (Darlow 72′); Yedlin (Sterry 62′), Clark (Schar 62′), Lascelles, Dummett (Manquillo 46′); Diame (Hayden 72′), Shelvey (Ki 62′); Ritchie (Roberts 72′), Perez (Longstaff 72′), Murphy (Atsu 72′); Joselu (Armstrong 72′)

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1,993 Comments Post a Comment
  1. JamTart
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Provided Chelsea don't sign a striker:

    Morata and Mane
    OR
    Firmino and Mahrez

    1. WVA
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Personally i wouldn't start with either Morata or Firmini especially with Zaha and Arnie in such good form/fixtures.

    2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      So tough to call, but the Morata factor means B for me. All 4 of those players could be in the top 10 at the end of the year though

  2. WVA
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Morning, getting there, Aurier over Bavies due to Bavies playing cb atm.

    Ddg
    Alonso Robbo Mendy Aurier Pva
    Salah Eriksen Richarlison
    Aguero Arnie

    1. Mini Mane Mo
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Trippier might be back earlier than you think. Your bench would be full of bench fodders

      1. WVA
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        It's a straight swap to any of the spurs defenders. Aurier on fire in pre too. Good thing with 3 in mid is you've got two nailed 4.5s on the bench, granted they wont get many points but hopefully ive picked pretty nailed players!

        1. Mini Mane Mo
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Other cheaper strikers will get you more points than Kun who has to share game time with Jesus

          1. WVA
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            This is crazy talk, have you seen his fixtures? He's the gw2 captain of choice, even with Jesus around he scores over 20 goals a season!

            1. BigBarn
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 6 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              What makes you so sure he'll be playing GW2?

              1. WVA
                • 7 Years
                5 years, 9 months ago

                Can't be sure with any of the city attackers but the one most likely to score big at home to hud is Aguero!

                1. Brosstan
                  • 9 Years
                  5 years, 9 months ago

                  So you will captain someone who might come on for 10 minutes? Good luck.

                  1. WVA
                    • 7 Years
                    5 years, 9 months ago

                    Any player might only play 10 minutes

          2. Zladan
            • 6 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            Thats definitely not true.

  3. StoichkovFPL
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Can't wait for WHU and CP games today. Hope they will play they strogest players.

    1. Eden Wizard
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Both have played incredibly consistent pre-season lineups due to limited WC players. Pretty obvious lineups.

  4. Live Lad
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Mawson will be priced at 5.0, right?

    1. WVA
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Probably

  5. FFS FPL terminology
    Make Arrows Green Again
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    We're still a week and a half away from the start of the season and there are too many variables around FPL teams at the moment for me to even consider starting my team. So I'm going all Christmas humbug instead and I'll ask you to let me know the things people say on FFs that get your goat! Here are my top 4:

    - "Nailed": Think of the metaphor - someone has taken a metaphorical nail and pinned him to the team with the diligence of a skilled lepidopterist.

    A player isn't "more nailed than y" or "75% nailed", is either "nailed" or he isn't.. Anything less and he can only be considered a more or less likely starter.

    - "Essential": very few players are ever essential, and all top players are eventually priced to a point where your reasons for picking them depends on how you balance and shape the rest of your team - how strong you want your bench to be, whether you have alternative captain picks etc. Salah last year was arguably the only "essential" player we have had in the last few seasons.

    - "He's due": A player who has not scored in nine games is not all the more likely to score in the tenth unless there has been a major shift in personnel, formation or tactics. He is much less likely to score than the player whose form is...

    - "unsustainable": "He's scored in nine games, the odds of a player scoring in ten games in a row are tiny so he's almost certain to blank". This is, of course, complete nonsense.

    Come on, what are yours?!

    1. Deulofail
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      tl;dr

      1. Make Arrows Green Again
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        I forgot one!

        #5: Deulofale

        1. Deulofail
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          tl;dr

          1. Make Arrows Green Again
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            XD how's your planning going, D? Enjoyed the Arsenal write-up. Anyone essential? Depends on how nailed they are I suppose.

            1. Deulofail
              • 8 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              Apparently Ozil is as nailed as the come. So my plan to cover Arsenal with Ozil, Mkhitaryan and Nelson is flawed since I don't have enough eggs in the starting XI basket.

              1. Make Arrows Green Again
                • 7 Years
                5 years, 9 months ago

                *pukes*

                1. Dokdok666
                  • 9 Years
                  5 years, 9 months ago

                  You should've mentioned "cover", especially the nonsense that is attacking cover as displayed above 😉

    2. Zarafa
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Personally it's for people who view wildcarding as a instant way to get green arrows. It's as the term suggests, a 'wildcard': anything could happen I think it's perfect to plan for it based on fixtures and form, but to expect that a wildcard is a instant remedy to your team is not the right mentality. Patience is key!

    3. Ghost Gooner
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Your points are really about semantics.

      1. Make Arrows Green Again
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Oh very much so, I am a massive pedant.

      2. Brosstan
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Not really. Points 3 and 4 are about people not understanding statistics at all.

        1. LosBlancos
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Not as much as you might think.
          Example:
          Assume the given probabilities of scoring as accurate.
          If a player has a 50% probability of scoring in a game, and he scored in 8/10 - people might assume he is 80% likely to score instead od 50% ==> unsustainable form
          Alternatively if a player has a 50% probability of scoring in a game, and he scored in 2/10 - people might assume he is 20% likely to score instead od 50% ==> due (to score more)
          It's impossible to perfectly quantify how likely a player is to score, but thats why we use underlying statistics (xG, shot, etc) where we can see if someone is overperforming (alternatively on unsustainable form) or underperformong (alternatively due).

          Though it is faulty to assume a player who is "due" will overperform.and average out over a small period (as is a a couple of games)

    4. Cok3y5murf
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Coverage. Questions like "Mane or Eriksen? Already have Salah"

      1. LosBlancos
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        This I agree with partially.
        Coverage can be fully applied for defense (all the defenders get 4 pts for a CS)
        Negatively, you only get a limited numver of BPS added epr game - ie you are more likely to get BPS if you pick the right players from different teams (so they don't "steal" each others BAPS)

        But still it is a very weak arguement

        1. Deulofail
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Disagree about defensive coverage, but worn out debating it already.

        2. Make Arrows Green Again
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Yeah aiming for coverage is marginally better than doubling up for two reasons - BAPs, as you say, and also the fact that you might have a player score, but if it's 1-0 with 5 minutes left, the fact that player A scored means that player B is less likely to score - he may be subbed or the team may go more defensive. If player B played in a different match with different aims and outcomes then he might get more points. Avoiding doubles for the sake of it is nuts though!

          1. LosBlancos
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 6 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            Yeah, this is a valid point too - but it also depends highly on the team. There are teams willing to put 8 goals past their opponents 😀

            1. Make Arrows Green Again
              • 7 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              *cough* not Mourinho *cough*

          2. Deulofail
            • 8 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            @RedArrows, but with this logic, if you owned player B only, he would be more likely to score that if you owned both Player B and Player A?

            The Baps thing i disagree with too. The probability of the players getting baps are the same whether you own one or both. As is the outcome.

            This is similar thinking to avoiding players who play against each other in one week. If you play the odds across the whole season, you will get more points than if you bench a good player for the sake of avoiding the clash. That said, this scenario is mitigated by the fact you can avoid poor fixtures with transfers. If the clash is actually a good fixture for both players, then there's no good reason I can see to reduce your overall likelihood of good points in order to go for bust or glory by benching one of them. (In fact this reminds me of captaining players with "high ceilings" despite low points per match).

            1. Make Arrows Green Again
              • 7 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              I guess my argument could be better formulated than I managed above! so:

              Each manager has an obligation to try to win games (even José, apparently), regardless of what this does to fantasy assets.

              A proportion of wins are tight, and if you have two players on the same team then if the manager shuts up shop then all attacking players suffer. One/both/neither of the players could have delivered attacking points by the time that this happens, but in the case of a 1-0 situation it is likely to be one/neither.

              If the second player is playing in a completely different match, then there is an entirely separate incentive for the manager of that match to go for the win, regardless of what happens in the first game which is, to the manager in question, laregly irrelevant to their own in-game situation, as both games reach 80 minutes, player A might be being subbed, whereas player B might be getting more support, more crosses, pushed higher up the pitch etc.

              This is my reasoning anyway. I understand that this can be reversed in a way - if the first match provides 6 goals then there is a good chance that two players from this team will do very well, and you might as an FPL manager end up cursing the fact that you didn't have two irons in the fire. For me, it's just that 1-0s are just so much more common than 6-xs, and FPL is generally about catching the steady drip of points rather than the cascades!

            2. LosBlancos
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 6 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              I think I'd argue that even though player B retains the same probabilities for points scored, the probability of (A+B) having a higher score will be higher if A and B are from different teams (simply because you exclude the event in which player A and player B get 3 BPS)
              ie there is a mutually exclusive event of both players scoring 3 BAPs if the players are on the same team.

              This is all given that both "B" players are most likely to score the same points.

              The same arguement can be said for a clash, even though the individual probabilities stay the same the probability of a higher score for both players will *change* due to the mutally exclusive events (ie attacker A scoring and defender B getting a CS).

              1. Make Arrows Green Again
                • 7 Years
                5 years, 9 months ago

                Completely agree - in a vacuum, I'd say that there would be a slightly higher points combo from A+C (different teams) than A+B (same teams) for BAPs alone, let alone my thoughts on managers going defensive at the end of tight games.

                All things are rarely equal in FPL though, so there are often other very good reasons for wanting to avoid a double-up (or to commit to one). The main one being that the best players available at the different price points are likely to be spread across the league.

                1. LosBlancos
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 6 Years
                  5 years, 9 months ago

                  We could start a University course.
                  MSc in FPL 😆

                  1. Make Arrows Green Again
                    • 7 Years
                    5 years, 9 months ago

                    Let's both crack top 100 and we shall!

                    1. Deulofail
                      • 8 Years
                      5 years, 9 months ago

                      Here's my reply to your arguemt above RA

                      The probability of your individual player being the one to score the goal in a 1-0 game is the same if you own another player in that game. Just by owning a player from a different game, it doesn't increase your chances of getting a goal.

                      I can see (what I would call) the psychological block, here. It seems like having players from separate games which are going to be 1-0, means that you have 2 players fighting for 2 goals instead of 2 players fighting for 1 goal. So if we exclude the possibility of a result higher than 1-0, and look at the overall the collective probability one of your two players scoring a goal, both scenarios give you the same chance of 1 goal, but the scenario with "2 baskets" gives you a higher chance of scoring 2 goals (because 2 goals is impossible a 1-0 game).

                      However, this rationale relies on either a cap at 1-0 or on intervention from one of the players scoring (and simulaneously lowering the chances of a second goal).

                      The latter isn't a problem because the intervention is an intervention. It happens during the game, which is after you have made your decision. Pre-game, you can just pick the players with the highest chance of FPL points, regardless of the team.

                      The former isn't a problem because there is no cap at 1-0. First, the likihood of teams in general scoring more than 1 goal or more than 2 etc is fairly irrelevant in my book, because, again, you are already taking into account the probability of a player scoring points when you pick him (which includes the possibility of a team scoring more than one goal).

                      Second, however, if you do buy into the "1 goal is most likely scored by a team" I have done some calculations, and it appears that one goal is indeed the most likely amount of goals that a team scores in a PL match. However, PL teams score 2+ goals in 40% of their matches. If you pick players from better clubs (getting a bit to close to "coverage" here).... Okay.... If your player belongs to a top club, I would presume they score 2+ goals much more frequently than 40% of the games. "Tottenham Hotspur’s most frequent result is a 4-0 win, which has happened on four occasions", for example. https://talksport.com/football/219493/every-premier-league-teams-most-frequent-scoreline-revealed-170414235298/

                      Here are the caluclations I made. The probability of a team scoring this number of goals in a game in the PL:

                      0 = 28.2%
                      1 = 31.6%
                      2 = 15.5%
                      3 = 8.7%
                      4+ = 15.95%

                      I did these using this link https://www.windrawwin.com/statistics/full-time-scores/ It's not impossible that I made mistakes 🙂

                      1. Deulofail
                        • 8 Years
                        5 years, 9 months ago

                        Just to add to that final point:

                        The average goals that a team score in a match last season was 1.32, but the top 6 look like this:

                        City = 2.79
                        Pool = 2.21
                        Spurs = 1.95
                        Arsenal 1.95
                        United = 1.79
                        Chelsea = 1.68

                        I personally think is irrelevant to double ups, but for you it might suggest that doubling up on top teams is more viable than lower teams 🙂

                2. Deulofail
                  • 8 Years
                  5 years, 9 months ago

                  If you're into pedantry, I don't think you should be saying that there are many reasons to avoid a double up and then qualify it by saying that your team is just unlikely to end up having a double up due to pricing structures. One is an active decision; the other is a byproduct.

                  #6: RedArrows

                  😆

                  1. Make Arrows Green Again
                    • 7 Years
                    5 years, 9 months ago

                    I think I understand what you are getting at mate, and what you say makes a lot of sense.

                    I can't escape the fact that it's all rather academic because I don't really think there is enough of a difference between (A+B) and (A+C) for it really to make much of a difference to the way I pick a team, actually!

                    I wrote to say why I think A+C is slightly better but actually that makes me look like I'm a coverage over doubling supporter, which is actually not true. Both are endorsed or derided unfairly, and I think there is every reason to double up rather than "cover" especially when, as you say, some teams averaged 2+ goals every game last season!

            3. Hotdogs for Tea
              • 8 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              Quote - ‘’The Baps thing i disagree with too. The probability of the players getting baps are the same whether you own one or both. As is the outcome. ‘’

              2 players from one team - max Baps =5
              2 players from 2 teams - max Baps = 6
              😉

              1. Deulofail
                • 8 Years
                5 years, 9 months ago

                Well that much is obvious 😉 What does max baps have to do with "The probability of the players getting baps are the same whether you own one or both. As is the outcome."

                1. Hotdogs for Tea
                  • 8 Years
                  5 years, 9 months ago

                  aren't you arguing that if you have 2 players in a single game or 2 players spread across 2 games, that you have the same chance of the same numer of goals, and by inference points ? or have I missed the point ?

                  "The probability of your individual player being the one to score the goal in a 1-0 game is the same if you own another player in that game. Just by owning a player from a different game, it doesn't increase your chances of getting a goal."
                  .... but it does increase your chance of more bonus points

    5. LosBlancos
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      "unsustainable" is valid for:
      1) huge conversion rated (ie shot 3 times and scored 2)
      2) huge points/min (came off the bench twice to assist and score, played 30min)
      and so on..
      "due" can be valid if:
      - said player has a lot of shots on target, high xG, just unlucky in a few games (ie VVD had quite a few proper attempts on target)
      "essential":
      once upon a time Kane, Mahrez and Vardy were essential
      "nailed":
      it can be a loose nail, you dont get to define the metaphor - but the contextual meaning stands for "likeliness to be in the starting XI"

      1. Make Arrows Green Again
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Good points - disagree re "nailed": because of what the word means it can only have entered FPL parlance for the times when people wanted to say that a certain player is one of the first on a teamsheet. It has been watered down to such an extent that it is meaningless.

        1. LosBlancos
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Maybe, but use of words evolves... no point in talking about how.it was better used in ye old times

          1. Make Arrows Green Again
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            Guess it depends whether you, for example, use the word "literally" to mean anything but. It has come into common parlance but it doesn't stop a little bit of my dying ever time I hear it 🙂

        2. Hotdogs for Tea
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Agreed - nailed us nailed ... end of and that’s that 🙂

      2. Deulofail
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        "Due" suggests that a player isn't scoring, but should be. So it excludes players who are scoring and should be, like Joe's goals imminent table. Which is nice if you want to paint a narrative of the unfortunate souls who aren't getting the luck, but not so nice when you're trying to make FPL decisions, because you've categorised the players who don't need to be categorised ([are already scoring] vs [are not already scoring])

        1. LosBlancos
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Didn't quite get the last part, but I agree - amd Joe's goals immenent paints this scenario nicely

        2. Make Arrows Green Again
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Actually, I dislike Joe's goals imminent table as IIRC it only counts players who are not scoring, so it's a bit 'gambler's fallacy'. Inlcude all the players who are scoring on there for a balanced picture.

          1. Deulofail
            • 8 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            Right this is exactly what I'm trying to say 🙂

            @LosBlancos. The last sentence was just trying to reinforce what I already said.

            If you value the xG, for example, then you will want to look at xG of all players. Perhaps you could remove the players who aren't nailed from your decision. But the goals imminent table removes players who are already scoring.

            The word "due" is like the goals imminent table. If "due" = good, then it is also good that a player isn't scoring. It seems to suggest a player who isn't scoring is better than one who is. In reality, I would say that whether a player is scoring in recent games is completely irrelevant to their xG.

            1. Make Arrows Green Again
              • 7 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              Ah I see - I skimread it because, y'know, tldr :p

              Yes I love Joe's work but this one is really flawed. The players who are actually scoring are a much better indicator of who will score than those who got "unlucky". What if the "unlucky" player always misses because he puts his shots on target in the middle of the goal just to be safe and they always get saved? The stats don't really help with these real-life scenarios.

              1. LosBlancos
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 6 Years
                5 years, 9 months ago

                That can be included if they ponderize (ponderise?) the shots on goal.
                IE a shot to the corner is valued higher than a shot to the middle of the goal.

                But realistically if they are top players playing in a top league you'd expect them not to shoot "safe"? :p

                1. Deulofail
                  • 8 Years
                  5 years, 9 months ago

                  The level of shooting in football in general often astounds me. I get genuinely baffled when I see players shoot at the middle of the goal from close range, long range, or whatever. I must be misunderstanding something about the pressure of the situation or the perspective from the camera (making the pitch look smaller than it is etc) etc. But you see some players know what they are doing and but the ball where the keeper isn't, so why do so many players struggle with this? *shrugs*

            2. LosBlancos
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 6 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              Right, got you now.

              I think the table is made that way because its the players who are playing well and dont score that go under the radar, whilst you always check on the goalscorers. I think you can easily set up an xG ranking in the members section.

              Due is conditionally good I guess.
              if a player is not scoring its good if he's due 🙂

              So you think that xG isn't a good indicator then?

              1. Deulofail
                • 8 Years
                5 years, 9 months ago

                I'm saying nothing about xG; I'm just saying that "due" has some amount of fuzziness in it that clouds our judgement and discussion. Pedantic, but that's what this thread is about 😆

        3. Hotdogs for Tea
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Morata is the exception when it comes to ‘due’ ... 🙂

    6. Deulofail
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      My goat is got by most uses of the words "structure", "balance" "flexibility", "eggs", "baskets", "risk" and "management".

      Also when people say, "too much in [position X]" and "not enough in [position Y]"

      Also when people say, "not enough [player A]"

      Also when people say, "Salah"

      1. Cok3y5murf
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        "ownership" too

        1. Deulofail
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Don't make me angry!

        2. LosBlancos
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          yeah "ownership" is wrongly used as a positive - in order to be better than the rest you need to pick equally good/better players with smaller ownership

          1. Deulofail
            • 8 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            Reverse-ownership spotted!

            1. LosBlancos
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 6 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              differential-inism? 😆

              1. Deulofail
                • 8 Years
                5 years, 9 months ago

                Take your ism and put it in Melanie Chisholm

        3. Mo Mané Mo Problems
          • 10 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Ownership is important.

          I generally only captain punt when there’s a likely

          1. Deulofail
            • 8 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            Captaincy-ownership spotted

          2. Mo Mané Mo Problems
            • 10 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            Eugh. 3 years and you still can’t use a lower than sign.

            Likely...under 100% EO of the most likely picked captain. So thanks to Salah’s starting ownership it will be too risky to punt most weeks.

      2. LosBlancos
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        "structure" and "balance" do have valid points too - means you need less FT to swap around players you "really" need. Likely thing is though, that you wouldnt want to lose the player who is at that price point.
        " eggs in one basket " and " risk management" refer to cover basically.

        And Salah is worth his price, I think he does better than last season tbh.. wouldn't you say that would be essential as a C pick?

        I can see structure and coverage really rile.you up. Im not an advocate for either, but there are arguements for them

        1. Deulofail
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Salah

      3. BigBarn
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Oh dear. I love myself a bit of structure.

        1. Deulofail
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          It's only most uses of the word that I have a problem with 🙂

      4. Deulofail
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Oh crikey, I can't believe I missed out "ceilings" and "floors", the fuzziest of all FFS concepts.

    7. the snazzy viking
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      people feeling the need to ask if their score is 'any good' when it obviously is

      1. LosBlancos
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        thats just bragging man

      2. Ghost Gooner
        • 10 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        And then don't ask when they tank the following gw 😆

    8. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      It really gets my goat sometimes when people have the cheek to come on here & discuss fantasy football. There are so many posts on here - do you think this player will do well, is that player overpriced, how does my team look, these fixtures look good, that formation vs. This formation.

      I think we should have a sepearate thread for any discussions about fantasy football, so that it doesn’t get all cluttered up on here!

      1. Deulofail
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        😆 It won't work. Some people will have the cheek to talk about FPL on the separate thread too!

        1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • 14 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          I email the mods about it all the time but they never do anything 🙁

      2. Jonny JAB
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Would love a categorised forum with different topics/threads. Would certainly beat the jumbled mess that is FFS's forums ... Won't change though and I'll still keep trawling through regardless :S

          1. Jonny JAB
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            Love your work! Good to read that ^. At the moment I've got a Word document with all the URL links to the hot topics/articles/comments I wish to go back to and works for now but far from ideal 🙂

    9. cheekumz
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      "feel ok with not having X as I already have Y who covers his points" . - the concept of offensive coverage is ridiculous. It sort of exists in defence as clean sheets go to the whole team so barring an unlikely goal, BPS and cards you can assume defenders who start a game for the same team will usually score the roughly the same. Salah scoring doesn't help me just because i have him "covered" with Firmino.

      1. LosBlancos
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        I agree, its just a mentality thing where if Liv score you might have something to hope for

      2. aspilcueta
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        People suggesting someone isn't a good pick because of a new manager. It doesn't really make a difference if they are still playing in the same position and haven't had their roles changed. Suggesting the likes of Auba and Laca won't perform in the league because of a new manager is a bit ridiculous, seeing they're smashing pre season, in form, and playing in positions that they have played in most of their career. They will have been getting used to the new manager and his philosophies for the past few weeks.

      3. Bilbao Baggins
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        I kind of agree. A player doesn't cover another player's points. I think coverage of teams is important though. So you want at least one attacking player from man city for example. I know de bruyne sterling may get more points, but I currently have Silva to cover city spot if they are free scoring as before.

    10. Bilbao Baggins
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      When people say "not considering price would you choose X over Y?" . Due to it being the start of the season everyone has 100 mil and price is extremely important haha

      1. LosBlancos
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        they are happy with the rest of the team.and dont know what to do with the money itb... and money itb doesnt give you points (or interest) 🙂

        1. Bilbao Baggins
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          I'm not buying it ha . 0.5 makes a huge diff at this stage. Eg I saw one was morata vs zaha. Such a silly question becUse it's millions difference

    11. Fire Chief Moe
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      'Nailed' is my absolute bug bear, I believe nailed is an absolute, a player is either nailed, or they are not, it is not a scale!

      1. LosBlancos
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        I actually feel it's more usefull as a scale. If not it would only be applicable to a few players.

        1. Fire Chief Moe
          • 13 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Maybe a scale is more useful, I'd just like it if it wasnt referred to as 'nailedness'.

      2. Deulofail
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        "Nailed" for me means "will start 100/100 games", so 80% nailed is shorthand for "will start 80/100 games". I don't have a problem with it really. I have more of a problem with people claiming players are nailed when they are not likely to start 38/38 games that they are available. Plays like Salah are rotation risks, even if they're only rested once every 8-10 games.

        1. Fire Chief Moe
          • 13 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Fair points, especially the latter.

        2. LosBlancos
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Salah isn't nailed. Really? 😆
          Think he starteded every game barring injury? Maybe was rested once ehen they had two games on consecutivr days or something - but even Kane would be rested for that

          1. Deulofail
            • 8 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            Rested in GW2 iirc. They have an even deeper squad this year, so we'll see...

            1. LosBlancos
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 6 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              I hope you aren't right 😀
              If you are you could have a point with Salah

        3. Make Arrows Green Again
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Never really though of it this way. I hate it a little less now. Maybe I'm mellowing in my old age.

          As a % of optimal nailedness.. maybe I can get on board with this.

      3. Brosstan
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Have you never shoddily nailed something to the wall? Less nailed implies its more likely to fall down, i.e no longer be nailed. It makes sense both figuratively and literally.

        1. Fire Chief Moe
          • 13 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Maybe this is true, if you always assume nobody can use a hammer properly

    12. Make Arrows Green Again
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Oh, I thought of another one. Peak pedantry INCOMING:

      Triple captain doesn't triple the captaincy. It multiplies it by 1.5.

      So it should be called 1.5x captain or triple baseline

      XD

      1. LosBlancos
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Start the petition! 😆

      2. Deulofail
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        I agree the term isn't perfect. You could read it as triple [points] captain, and [double points] captain to make sense of it, where the square brackets indicate information that at some point in time has been deemed redundant. I think the fact they were invented at different times and by different people has resulted in inconsistent naming logic! In the words of philosopher, C. Pilkington, "Get rid of it".

        1. Deulofail
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          It also seems like a Free Hit-type chip was a concept raised in a meeting once, and they developed the idea into something else without changing the name.

    13. Brosstan
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      "If player A scores X, you will be X points behind from the start"

      This comment drives me up the wall. It applies to every single player every single gameweek. Its a non-argument. But people seem to think that when applied to highly owned players, its suddenly qualitatively more important advice.

      1. Deulofail
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        +42

      2. Make Arrows Green Again
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Love it - nicely put too 🙂

      3. LosBlancos
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        it's just that they refer to the mean when they say it 😛
        but all of us here should be better than the mean!

      4. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        In fairness I have to say I disagree with this one - or at least, the only player i’ve seen this comment applied to is Salah - and it is (a) blantantly true with Salah that if he scores a brace in GW1 & you dont’t have him you will be 25-30 points behind those who do I.e. most of the game, probably 3 or 4 million players, and (b) used as a stark wake up call/illustration to give perspective to those considering going without.

        It doesn’t apply to Kun, Auba or anyone else because none of them will have Salah’s 60-70 % ownership, therefore you will not be behind 3 or 4 million players, you might be behind a few hundred thousand, and none of them will have Salah’s close to 100% captaincy, therefore it’s not 25-30 points, it might be 5-10 points which is easily made up by other sub 11.0 players.

        What the comment doesn’t mean is that you have to pick Salah. What it also doesn’t mean is that it’s impossible to do well without Salah. That’s like saying it’s impossible to win the lottery, which it is not.

        What the comment does do is highlight that it’s highly likely you should pick Salah, and highly likely you can’t do well without Salah.

        1. Deulofail
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          I disagree with basically everything you said besides point (b) 😀

          1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
            • 14 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            Good man!

          2. Pep Pig
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            Jeeeeeezus some people just like to rant and whinge. I'm mad at myself for reading the majority of them. Worse than Facebook for attention seeking at times

            1. Deulofail
              • 8 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              😆 quit whinging

        2. WesMantooth
          • 13 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Ted captains Salah and gets 2x15=30
          Tod captains Aguero and gets 2x8=16

          Then theres the other 10 players...

          1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
            • 14 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            Tod now is much more likely to be 14 points behind Ted, and even if Tod got lucky with his other players, Tod is now also scrambling to try to find a way to get Salah in and has to make an extra FT. Tod feels like a very silly billy.

    14. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      What about "benching headache" as a negative?

      1. Make Arrows Green Again
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        "It's a nice problem to have" 🙂

    15. kalmoffit
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      "A by miles" when it's clearly a very close choice.

    16. Deulofail
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      I don't like the use of "clearly" to imply that something subjective is an obvious fact.

      1. LosBlancos
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        so democratic of you

    17. Deulofail
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      I don't like the use of the word "democratic" in contexts I don't understand it.

      1. LosBlancos
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        I meant diplomatic, it was very late when I wrote that

        1. Deulofail
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          🙂

    18. DantheManinaPan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      I find it irritating when people use the arguments:
      "I've just got a feeling he's going to explode"
      or
      "I think he's got a point to prove"
      and, to a lesser extent,
      "It's easier to get rid of him than have to get him in."

      Every time I ask someone why they've picked Sanchez, I seem to get a combination of these responses.

    19. RedLightning
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      "You read it here first".

      Used for any unlikely forecast, but only referred back to if actually comes true.

      1. badgerboy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        A.k.a 'bookmark this.'

        1. RedLightning
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 13 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Used to be known as Buggu-mark, after a character who made multiple forecasts in the dead zone, then only referred back to the successful ones.

          1. Deulofail
            • 8 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            Now known as being a Pumpkin Head 😀

        2. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Wow, what a high-quality discussion that was, further up the thread.

          Late to the party I know, but my tup'pence-worth is that whilst I'm in the anti-"coverage" camp, some of the discussion did challenge me. Having thought it through, I feel that while the 'coverage' argument can make a marginal difference in the short-term and relate to some players and teams, I don't think it's valid for the high-scoring teams. I'm committed to tripling up on Liverpool and City, but I'd never go for 3 United attackers while Mou is holding the reigns.

          1. Deulofail
            • 8 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            Do you mean coverage as in:

            A) Covering specific teams (e.g. more Liverpool & City = more points)
            B) Covering lots of teams (fewer from one team = risk spread = more points)

            For me, "coverage" is a useless term because it can be used to rationalise both.

          2. Make Arrows Green Again
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            Here to please 🙂 and we're starting a FPL MSc degree course so...

    20. invertebrate
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Any post, usually a gravless RMT, addressed to the 'lads' or 'fellas'. Because it's definitely only LADS who play fantasy football.

    21. Werkself
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      "Casual", used as a noun.

      Also, when someone posts that they hope player x gets injured I immediately lose respect for the person posting it.

      1. Deulofail
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Agreed about casual (and Invertebrate's male fantasy); makes me cringe. Oh, the elitism!

  6. davies
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Biggest upgrade here?

    A) Kun > Kane
    B) Laca > Auba
    C) Mahrez > KDB/Hazard

    1. WVA
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      C

    2. rhysmd
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      C

    3. Live Lad
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      a

  7. KUNingas
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Fill the last defender. Max 5.5.

    Ederson, 4.0
    Robertson, Lowton, Cedric, WB, ****

    1. Zarafa
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      PVA

      1. KUNingas
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Thanks

      2. DantheManinaPan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Not PVA - how about Sokratis?

  8. Dont Shoot
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Comment on this 3-5-2 experiment
    Ederson (Boruc)
    Mee/VanD/Cedric (Tomkins, Peltier)
    Mahrez, Son, Mkhi, Richa, Salah
    Auba, Zaha (Kamara)

    1. GAMBIT
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Need a better 4.5 than Kamara tbh, if I could find that player I'd be going 3-5-2 as well. The rest looks pretty template

    2. The_Adam
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      I keep seeing Son pop up in teams. He's going to be at the Asian Games early in the season.

      1. Dont Shoot
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Thank you, guys.
        I usually go 3-4-3 (hence - experiment) and will probably revert.
        Thanks for Son info.

  9. Doolittle
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Hi all, after 2 years clean from FPL, in which time I got married and moved from the UK to Melbourne, I have been suckered back in by the promise of a company league with a cash prize. Any advice on this first draft would be appreciated (I'm a little rusty):

    Foster/Fabianski
    VVD/Azpi/Cedric/Daniels/Wan-B
    Salah/Richarlison/Mahrez/Pedro/Cairney
    Aubameyang/Zaha/Arnie

    0.5 ITB.

    As I say, I'm rusty and this is a first draft, so I'd be happy to see it torn to pieces. Hope everyone's well and that I get to see some old familiar faces/names.

    1. Foozeball
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      midfield and forwards look good, just keep an eye out on Mahrez injury news of course

      Having a Bournemouth defender is risky imo despite having a great GW1 fixtures. Not sure about Azpi due to the question mark of how well Chelsea will adapt to Sarri's system in th early weeks of the season

      1. Eze Really?
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Daniels good for 3 games. 4.5 is low risk

        1. BigBarn
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          He's not at all necessarily going to play those three games, even if the susspension is upheld. His legs really do appear to have got up and left him.

          1. Doolittle
            • 11 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            Any ideas on a better alternative? Or may reshuffle my squad.

    2. Ghost Gooner
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      8/10

      Dont like Cedric Daniels Cairney

      1. Doolittle
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Cheers Ghost, any suggested replacements?

        1. Ghost Gooner
          • 10 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Tomkins Kabesele

    3. Eze Really?
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      By reading your team it is clear you have done your homework.
      My team apart from:
      VVD/Robertson
      Pedro/Bilva
      Wan B/Peltier
      is identical.
      Some would say "template"
      Welcome back!

      1. Doolittle
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Ha really? I did a bit of reading and checking of pre-season but not too much, I think the World Cup is arguably a massive hindrance on variety of selection.

        1. Eze Really?
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Si right. Very boring sides coming out atm.

        2. Eze Really?
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          By the way, you were the one that said I must get a grav 3 years ago

          1. Doolittle
            • 11 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            Hahaha you picked a brilliant one!

    4. HamezMace
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Welcome back, and congratulations on managing to have a successful life away from FPL.

      Team looks fine, all the popular picks

    5. Hooky
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Welcome back. Thought you had gone forever!

  10. Foozeball
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Is Jota worth the extra 1.5m over Costa? Thoughts on how the two will compare?

    1. WVA
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Yep

    2. Live Lad
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      I think so.

  11. Duffy Dunk
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Aguero just back and may rotate with Jesus.
    Firmino just back.
    Auba/Laca 2 tough fixtures and new manager.
    Morata new manager.
    Mane seems motivated.
    I feel like going with Zaha and Arnie and have a strong midfield can do well.
    If Aguero/Jesus/Firmino start well, one of the mids can be downgraded to upgrade Zaha/Arnie.

    Ederson Hamer
    Robertson Bailly Ward Tomkins Cedric
    Salah Mane Mahrez Bilva Ramsey
    Zaha Arnie Kamara

    1. Mini Mane Mo
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Rotation concerns with Mahrez and Bilva. No love for Eriksen?

    2. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      We’re fortunate to have the Community Shield to assess City. Whoever starts that will likely start the season. Personally I think people are overthinking the Kun situation. He’s first choice, he’s class. Straight in my team. Looking forward to his hattrick in GW2

    3. Pras (FPL)
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Thats a great set-up. BUT only works until a big hitting striker explodes, and then you are in trouble. Getting an 11.0 or 12.5 striker in this set-up will need 3-4 transfers (or WC). Therefore a safer approach is the one where you get an 11.0 striker now and shape the team to react to forst 2-3 rounds.

      Maybe thats defensive, but I typically like to start with less risk, and then start taking punts based on actual performance / settled team sheets

      1. Bunk Moreland
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Mane > 4,5 gives him 5m to shift Zaha to any striker bar Kane at current pricing. It's not so dramatic.

        1. Pras (FPL)
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          First, "bar Kane" is a big thing..

          Second..what if that also coincides with Bailly and Bilva getting dropped..

          All I am saying is this structure lacks flexibility, but great if you are ready to WC after 4/5 GWs

  12. Ëð
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    What do you guys think of this as a first go:

    Patricio, Hennessey
    Mendy, Bellerin, Bailly, Coleman (Peltier)
    Salah, KDB, Mkhi, Cairney (Masuaku)
    Aguero, Firmino (Quaner)

    Likely to play 4-4-2 this season.

    1. rhysmd
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Starting team looking good would be a bit worried about your bench though if anyone doesn’t play

      1. Ëð
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Think you're probably right, I'll have another go. Really don't like the £5m midfielder bracket.

    2. Pras (FPL)
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      You can do Firmino + Quaner -> Arnie and Zaha

      The bench will look better too

  13. rhysmd
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Ederson (Boruc)
    Robertson Bailly Cedric (Boly WB)
    Salah Sane Neves Pedro (Gunnarsson)
    Firm Arnie Auba

    Still considering Mitrovic depending on price but looking ok?

  14. davies
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    What to do with Mendy if he doesn’t start on sunday?

    1. Smurf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Get rid.

    2. TheBrat
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Same concerns - would love to pick him but he's not getting any minutes, can't understand what's going on with him tbh

      1. Ghost Gooner
        • 10 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Him and Sane aren't getting minutes. I think Pep is protecting them from injury.

    3. The_Adam
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Yeah, don't pick him. Bare in mind City are away to Arsenal first week anyway. I'll be waiting for him to start featuring in games and impressing. If I miss a haul it's not the end of the world, but I want to see him look an essential pick. The guy has only played a handful of games in the last 10 months or so.

    4. Eze Really?
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Pep's sides are not wing backs. They seem to come inside and support the mids.
      Mendy can wait for a couple of games

    5. Foozeball
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Probably should look for a replacement. Too much uncertainty about his match fitness right now

    6. Jonny JAB
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Sell! Was an advocate for a while but with a complete lack of pre-season minutes I'm happy to wait and see rather than splash 6.0m on a possibly benched player ... any evidence to the contrary and he's coming straight back in though!

  15. crazyyapper
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    help pls

    pickford (fabianski)
    pva, taa, mendy (wan bissaka, daniels)
    salah, mkhi, sane, richarlison (stephens)
    zaha, arnie, auba

    or

    ddg (fabianski)
    pva, taa, mendy (wan bissaka, daniels)
    mkhi, mahrez, shaqiri, son (jorginho)
    zaha, auba, firmino

  16. MrCloppity
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Ederson
    Robertson, Coleman, Cedric
    Eriksen, Salah, Richarlison, Silva
    Zaha, Firmino, Arnautovic

    Bench- Stekelenburg, Tomkins, Wan-Bissaka, Kenedy

    Thoughts?

  17. Old Gregg
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Any suggestions?.

    Ederson
    PVA-Robbo-Bertrand
    McAthur-Sane-Salah-Pedro
    Arnie-Firm-Aguero

    Norris-Ward-Wan Bis - Peltier.

    Other 5m mids worth considering instead of Mcathur to avoid palace tripple?

    1. rhysmd
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Not sold on Bertrand but like the rest

      1. Old Gregg
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        thanks.
        No me neither tbh but he is potentially playing wing back. The new Alonso!

        1. Salarrivederci
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          He has been playing CB in the pre-season, but I agree. Looks like him and Cedric will play WB's in a 5 man defense

          1. Ajax Hamsterdam
            • 9 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            i am taking a punt on Bertrand, i dont mind paying the extra 0.5, he has more attacking potential than cedric imo

  18. jia you
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Shaw looking pretty nailed on at the start?
    Starting with him over Bailly atm, punty and probably a transfer waiting to happen!
    But with our injuries to full backs (Valencia and Dalot) , Young could end up having to fill in at RB which stengthens the case for Shaw a little! There is F-M who could also deputise at RB of course!
    Thoughts on MUN defence and is Shaw value at 5.0 or fools fantasty gold?

    1. jia you
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      ...also Darmian looks almost certain to be sold!

    2. Ghost Gooner
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Don't think United will keep cleansheets like the beginning of last season. I'm staying away from defence and expensive offence

    3. Salarrivederci
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Shaw would be a great pick if Mou wasn't the manager.

      Mitchell and Tuanzebe were picked over Shaw in the match against Pool the other day.
      I honestly don't know who Mou dislikes the most - Shaw or Martial?

      I'll not get Shaw that is for sure.

      1. jia you
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        I think Shaw will def start GW1 if fit but your point is valid!

        1. Salarrivederci
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          He might. IDK. That Man U side is so weakened it is crazy. And do you really want to use the transfers on defenders after 1-2 GW's?

          1. jia you
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            Yeah, might be safer to start without alright mate

    4. Pras (FPL)
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Well currently I think Mou said Shaw is injured and not sure when back. He therefore may not even play first game, by which time Young/Valencia may start to come back

      Bailly is the safer pick/punt because there is a decent chance he makes the position his own

      1. Cok3y5murf
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Bailly currently injured

        1. Pras (FPL)
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          He played last game despite injury / slight niggle - check team news

              1. Cok3y5murf
                • 7 Years
                5 years, 9 months ago

                That's older than what I posted. And Mourinho also said that he had a swollen ankle now because of playing through the pain. That quote is missing. Now he's missed training

        2. jia you
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Hes a bit injury prone and maybe wont reach the standard that fans feel hes capable of! Feel we will def sign a CB in the next week or two, could be Toby A.

  19. Brajko
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Any thoughts?
    Ederson
    Daniels Robertson Wan-Bissaka
    Salah Mahrez L.Moura Mkhitarian Richarlison
    Morata Lacazette 3-5-2
    Speroni Coleman Kolasinac Quarner

    1. rhysmd
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Morata and Moura quite punty but could pay off particularly if Chelsea and Spurs make no signings. Quite a lot of cash tied up in Coleman and Kolasinac on the bench?

      1. Brajko
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Ok, thanks for opinion. I agree for morata and lucas, we will see. Colman and Kolasinac bench only for GW1 because I want to play with 5 midfielders and I think there is no CS for their teams in GW1.

        1. wrongball6
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Have to agree with RHYSMD that's too much money to be sat on the bench, would start either over Daniels.

          I'm so tempted my Morata - only in 3.1% !

          1. Brajko
            • 5 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            Maybe bertrand or cedric instead of Kolasinac for first two GWs?

  20. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
    • 13 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    It really is annoying West Ham and Cardiff have stinking early fixtures. Fab, Arnie and Ralls Royce all the best options at their price points imo, but fixtures are a big deterrent

    1. Mini Mane Mo
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Form over fixtures. What makes you think Arni can’t score against Pool?

      1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Pool solid at home. Besides pre-season form is a notoriously bad metric for assessing how players get in once the league starts. He could do though I suppose

      2. jia you
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        and two plum home fix in GW2 and 4!

    2. rhysmd
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      I’m backing Arnie from the off... should get lots of service from Yarmolenko and Anderson etc

    3. Foozeball
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      I think West Ham might perform unexpectedly well despite their bad fixtures. Arnautovic looks like he's carrying over his great form at the end of last season into the new season and West Ham appear to have made upgrades at weak positions

    4. RomeluStormzy
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Sticking with Arnie. Fab rotated well with foster. Ralls wait and see?

  21. andrinho
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Rate my team:

    Ederson (Hamer)
    Robertson Coleman Tomkins (Francis) (Wan-Bissaka)
    Salah Mahrez Richarlison Jota (Masuaku)
    Auba Aguero

    Cheers

    1. Ghost Gooner
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      9. I'd change Francis

    2. Pras (FPL)
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Who is 3rd striker?

  22. ooooo
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Ederson
    Robbo Lowton Tomkins
    Salah mane Dilva Jota Richarlison
    Auba Arnie

    4.0mil Dunk WB Kamara

    Who should I downgrade to get Mahrez in for Dilva? Thinking Richarlison but not sure to whi

    1. Ghost Gooner
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Look one post up 😕

      1. ooooo
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        What

  23. VanDijksToWatchOutFor
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    I'm feeling less and less convinced by Coleman. Had him with pva and Robertson for my three person defence but where would you switch him to in either the 5.5 or 5.0 brackets, or would you hold? Burnley perhaps?

    1. Jonny JAB
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Are you happy paying 5.5m for the attacking prospects of Coleman? Of course you can expect some CS's along the way but personally Everton's fixtures look prime for luring people in and being disappointing with the defensive returns.

      Richarlison and Steklenberg (backup GK) are the only two worthy of consideration IMO at Everton in comparison to other players in similar price brackets.

      I''ve got Tarkowski atm but am suspect how they'll perform without either of their primary GK's. Europa is a concern but being overplayed, the two combined may be enough to put off ...

      Bellerin if you're willing to risk at 5.5, Sakho (5.0), Burnley, Kolabear (5.0) Vestergaad (5.0) if Cedric looking unlikely to start the options I'm looking at at those price brackets ... TBH they're not great (bar Sakho if you want to double) and feel better going for a 6/6.5 and 4.5 where possible :S

  24. GianniBanani
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Which one?

    A) 5.0 Burnley def + 4.0 Bissaka + 4.0 Peltier (or now Jazz)
    B) 4.5 Birghton def + 4.5 Cedric + 4.0 Bissaka

    With Burnley's first 8 fixtures (only United home before inter break) and nailed Bissaka, option A allows playing even both (pref 3-5-2/3-4-3 and got Robbo and Luiz). On the other hand option B is more flexible. I dont see many promising options for 5.0 atm. Only Kolasinac after gw2 if nailed.

    1. Ghost Gooner
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      A

    2. NOMONEY
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      :O

  25. Ëð
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Second attempt, any thoughts? This one will be a 4-3-3

    Patricio, Hennessey
    Bailly, Robertson, Coleman, Bellerin (Peltier)
    KDB, Salah, Richarlison (Cairney, Stephens)
    Aguero, Zaha, Arnie

    Still got £0.5m left over, anything better for £5.5m or less than Cairney as first sub?

    1. chaser123
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Will KDB start the season?

    2. Tommytour
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      KDB > Mane/Eriksen/Mahrez Bellerin > Azpi/Alonso/Mendy/VVD

  26. Jonny Sutt
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Do we think Bavis and Tripper will be rotated regularly this season?

    1. willl
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      yes

    2. Ghost Gooner
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Yes

  27. willl
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Higuain going to AC Milan on loan.

    So no Morata to AC or Higuain to Chelsea.

    Morata at 9m interests me.

    1. Respect My Authoritah
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Hm - not sure it should. Dire for two-thirds of last season, may not start when Giroud is back, may not even start full stop. Not on pens, doesn't get bonus

      1. willl
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        He was good before he injured his back, he should be over that after the summer off.

    2. Toblerone52 - Zlatan Ibra-H…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      He's a great option and one I'm definitely monitoring

  28. chaser123
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Is having a second playing keeper a waste of money?

    1. mik-hail-tal
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Well not if you rotate them.
      2 premium is a waste imo but 2 x 4.5 makes sense to me.

      1. chaser123
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Thinking of Fabianski and McCarthy as fixtures rotate well....but should I bother?

        I could just play Fabianski every game in the hope of save points?

    2. Ghost Gooner
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      if the playing gk costs 5.0 and up then it is imo.

      1. chaser123
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Thinking of Fabianski and McCarthy as fixtures rotate well....but should I bother?

        I could just play Fabianski every game in the hope of save points?

        1. Ghost Gooner
          • 10 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          I'd get McCarthy to avoid West Ham thrashings and -1 scores

    3. Jafalad
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Yes. Just get Ederson in with 4.0 and all your worries are taken care for the season.

  29. Respect My Authoritah
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Arnautovic has good fixtures from an offensive standpoint gws 2-5. Wouldn't be too surprised to see a goal v Liverpool either.

    It's defensively that West Ham's fixtures suck

    1. Toblerone52 - Zlatan Ibra-H…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Arnie a decent option from the start for sure

  30. Where dahoud at
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Any suggestions??

    Ddg
    Mendy, lovern, bertrand
    Salah, hazard, kante, erikson
    Aguero, Arnautovic, Bonatini

    Bench, boruc, cairney, wan-bissaka, peltiet

    1. Salarrivederci
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      You might call for Cairney, Wan-Bisska AND Peltier in the first GW 😉

      Not sure if Hazard, Kante, Lovren, Mendy or Bonatini will play.