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Fantasy Premier League managers have been handed an early look at Chelsea and Manchester City ahead of the 2018/19 season – and we’ve already learned a few things from the Community Shield team-sheets.

Much to our excitment, the cheaper options of Pedro (£6.5m) and Callum Hudson-Odoi (£4.5m) were both selected in Chelsea’s starting line-up.

FPL defender Victor Moses (£6.0m) was named among the substitutes but could get involved in the attacking front-three in the second-half, and is worth watching.

As for Manchester City, more of their returning World Cup stars have been declared fit for the Community Sheild than was initially expected.

Fantasy managers should pay attention to how well they cope with the occasion as they are competing today without much preparation since coming back to training.

Riyad Mahrez (£9.0m), Leroy Sané (£9.5m) and Benjamin Mendy (£6.0m) are of particular note as they were all in the Manchester City training camp this summer.

Meanwhile, a start for Phil Foden (£5.0m), with Raheem Sterling (£11.0m) and Kevin De Bruyne (£10.0m) yet to return to club duties, could provide a value route into their midfield for the early part of the season.

For more detail on the areas to follow in today’s match, READ THIS ARTICLE.

CHELSEA XI (4-3-3): Caballero; Alonso, David Luiz, Rüdiger, Azpilicueta; Barkley, Jorginho, Fabregas; Pedro, Morata, Hudson-Odoi.

MANCHESTER CITY XI (4-2-3-1): Bravo; Mendy, Laporte, Stones, Walker; Fernandinho, Foden; Mahrez, Bernardo, Sane; Aguero.

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  1. stat
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Who do you think the best max 5.5m mid is for the first couple of weeks?
    Someone like Fraser, or someone like Ralls who is on set pieces?

    1. Chris_White
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Armstrong

      1. stat
        8 years, 2 months ago

        Interesting option but Southampton are terrible

    2. Obi-1 Kenobi-0
      8 years, 2 months ago

      I’ve actually been considering Fraser, yeah. Bournemouth have good fixtures and he’s been fairly decent in pre-season on the left of a 4-4-2.

    3. Fantastisk
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Fernandinho

      1. stat
        8 years, 2 months ago

        Takes up a valuable City spot

    4. captainjilflex
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 2 months ago

      definitely fraser. i think he could be a steal for 5.5

    5. Mr_Moore
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Fraser is good but Atsu or Ward-Prowse should also get shouts based on preseason.

    6. Brosstan
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Mooy. Will score against Chelsea, you heard it here first.

    7. Gold Monster
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Billing

  2. FantaCity
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Chances of D Silva starting in GW1 ?

    1. LosBlancos
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 2 months ago

      low I think

    2. Daaf
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Where was he anyway?

  3. LosBlancos
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    8 years, 2 months ago

    So in light of recent performance, dropping Luiz for Tomkins and leaving 1m itb for a possible "upgrade" of Mahrez > KDB or anything else that might arise

    1. FantaCity
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Hard to tell, but might be safest at the start

      1. LosBlancos
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        8 years, 2 months ago

        Yeah, also starting with TAA so might use it for TAA > VVDas well, if necessary.

  4. Pieterke30
    8 years, 2 months ago

    How many Aubameyang-convinced managers going for Aguero instead after today’s showings?

    1. Holmes
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Not me but many will

    2. Fantastisk
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Zero

    3. FantaCity
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Still both for me

      1. Sanchit
        8 years, 2 months ago

        No Salah then?

        1. FantaCity
          8 years, 2 months ago

          Yes Salah then

    4. Collie01
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Ive been on the fence but leaning towards Kun now

    5. thom830g
      8 years, 2 months ago

      both for me

    6. Mmm sausages
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Both.

  5. Siggy in the Middle
    8 years, 2 months ago

    KDB expected to start Gameweek 1?

    1. Mmm sausages
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Doubt it

  6. Football Heaven
    8 years, 2 months ago

    I know it’s been asked a million times but mane or firmino?

    1. JaydenLFC87
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Mane out of the 2

    2. Fantastisk
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Firmino

    3. nisag17
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Mane because of pens right now.

  7. JaydenLFC87
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Can I get a cheeky RMT for the below please?

    McCarthy
    Baines Kabasele Shaw
    Salah Sanchez Milivojevic Mane
    Defoe Aguero Mitrovic

    Fabianski CHO Zanka Wan-Bissaka

    All being well will mean I have 7 first choice spot kickers

    1. stat
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Defoe is not going to be a starter probably

  8. Fantastisk
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Bottomed: where was D Silva today?

    1. Baps Hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 2 months ago

      No idea, but he is out of my team now.

  9. Lone Wolf FPL
    8 years, 2 months ago

    So annoying. 0.5 short to my perfect team...
    Need to downgrade Jota to Cairney and now have spare money ITB..doesnt feel good. Like undone puzzles 🙂

    1. Fantastisk
      8 years, 2 months ago

      I'm a few more than that short of my ideal team lol

    2. Ask Yourself
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Costa ? Be as influential as jota I think to begin with at least

      1. Marvin.
        8 years, 2 months ago

        There was a Wolves fan on earlier who swore that Costa will be at least as good as Jota.

        1. Andy_Social
          8 years, 2 months ago

          I've convinced myself of that on the basis I had to trim Jota to afford the latest tweak. Suddenly Costa is magic!

  10. Viper
    8 years, 2 months ago

    I'm really liking the look of Sigurdsson and will be taking him into my gwk 1 tram most likely.

    -New attacking coach
    -Strong FPL history
    -Set Piece monopoly (hopefully anyway with pens)
    -Strong fixtures
    -Can score from long distances at any time.

    Worth an initial punt imo and a switch to Mkhitaryan or Ozil should be pretty straight forward when we've had a couple of weeks to assess Arsenal and allow fixtures to ease.

    1. noahzark22
      8 years, 2 months ago

      I've been on him since the start. sometimes double with richarlison.

    2. Cok3y5murf
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Richarlison and Walcott looked better in the last game

    3. The Big Fella
      8 years, 2 months ago

      I started with him but then got rid of him. Everton have been shite in pre-season.

  11. RubberDucky
    8 years, 2 months ago

    So we're Chelsea that bad defensively that they can't keep CS against lower opposition?

    1. LosBlancos
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Well probably not, with Kane yet to feature especially. But not sure I fancy Luiz at 5.5 with possible competition from Christiansen, and with Willian staying I assume he won't get any set pieces either

      1. RubberDucky
        8 years, 2 months ago

        How did Pedro do?

        1. Siggy in the Middle
          8 years, 2 months ago

          Awful.

        2. LosBlancos
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          8 years, 2 months ago

          They were all poor

    2. barracuda
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Forget about your defence. You are doomed with Morata.

    3. THFC4LIFE
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 2 months ago

      They weren’t great but they won’t play City every week

    4. Andy_Social
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Bear in mind they'll have Kante back - they'll be okay.

  12. Flynny
    8 years, 2 months ago

    If I want bsilva in my team it will mean sacrificing richarlison or jota?

    Any view on better option of those 2 6.5s?

    Thanks

    1. UshFPL
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Sell Jota, he's unproven in the PL

    2. DV8R
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Same dilemma, maybe Jota.

  13. UshFPL
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Firmino and Hughes/Costa or Zaha and Bilva

  14. Sammy S
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Reckon Trent Alexander-Arnold is likely to start the first game for Liverpool? Tempted to go for him ahead of Robertson

    1. LosBlancos
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 2 months ago

      I think so, Klopp commented on his eagerness to come back to train so he could feature as early as possible. I doubled up on Robbo and Trent (previously Robbo and VVD)

    2. Cok3y5murf
      8 years, 2 months ago

      I doubt it. Clyne has played the whole pre-season while Trent just played under 30 minutes.

      1. Sammy S
        8 years, 2 months ago

        Didn't watch the game but saw lots saying Clyne played poorly in Liverpool's last friendly

      2. Fantastisk
        8 years, 2 months ago

        This

    3. Pep's Money Laundry
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Clyne will start against whu, TAA is far from ready to start a game

      1. LosBlancos
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        8 years, 2 months ago

        Not based on Klopp's comment he isn't.

    4. nisag17
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Wait for the last friendly. He didn't start against Napoli

  15. The Tinkerman
    8 years, 2 months ago

    It’s inflexible, but I’m going with this I think:

    DDG
    Mendy, Robertson, Luiz
    Salah, Mahrez, Jota, Richarlison
    Aguero, Tosun, King

    4.0; Stephens, Schlupp, WBis

    Will eventually restructure for KDB and Auba over Aguero and Mahrez.

    1. Gold Monster
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Tosun to Arnie, surely?

  16. barracuda
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Man Utd v Leicester?

    2:0

    1. UshFPL
      8 years, 2 months ago

      1-1

    2. Ask Yourself
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Yeah probs

    3. fedolefan
      8 years, 2 months ago

      2-1 I think.. Nacho looks in the mood.

    4. Dr. Rog
      8 years, 2 months ago

      1-1 sanchez maddisson (wagon)

    5. Fantastisk
      8 years, 2 months ago

      1-0 Leicester

    6. the snazzy viking
      8 years, 2 months ago

      1-2 Leicester

    7. Mmm sausages
      8 years, 2 months ago

      1-0. Boring boring Jose

  17. Football Heaven
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Realistically are zaha and arnie actually worth 7.0 now they’ll get fewer points consideringtheyre playing in the same position as they were when they got the majority of their points last season?

    1. Ask Yourself
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Zaha no but Arnie yes has an attacking manager that wants to score goals. The fact he became an option under Moyes is saying something

    2. Powers106
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Less points for goals but potentially better baps possible?

    3. barracuda
      8 years, 2 months ago

      More baps

    4. Andy_Social
      8 years, 2 months ago

      I think so; I've got both.

  18. Powers106
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Am I the only one who wasn’t that impressed by Firmino at WC? It’s just the big question if Salah will feed him, vs taking Arnie (cheaper, fixture proof) — I am waiting but also to say defo ejecting Shakiri and Mahrez, 2 great bench guys for FA Cup etc runs, never involved every GW! Thoughts?

    1. Sánchez
      8 years, 2 months ago

      He didn't get many minutes to be fair

    2. The Tinkerman
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Sturridge also looks sharp, unfortunately for FPL. Shaqiri is probably a risk to Manes minutes too. Will wait to see what Klopp does rotation wise, but if Sturridge is injured again, which seems likely, Firmino looks value.

      1. rjcv177
        8 years, 2 months ago

        So...shaqiri is a threat to Mane's minutes.
        2 questions. Wich place/sides mane and salah play?
        Where has shaq played the last few seasons?

      2. barracuda
        8 years, 2 months ago

        Can Shaq play on the left?

    3. badgerboy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Hard to impress when your barely getting any minutes. Go with your gut imo.

  19. Emiliano Sala
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Mahrez flagged
    Will he start next game?

    1. Emiliano Sala
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Shouldn't be sane instead?

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Presser during week.

    3. badgerboy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 2 months ago

      He was flagged before the game so it should come off soon.

    4. Epic Fail
      8 years, 2 months ago

      He was flagged before the game started.

    5. LosBlancos
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 2 months ago

      That flag is from earlier. I think he starts.

  20. Dr. Rog
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Building a ghost team (no transfers all season)

    A) Auba+Arnie
    B) Aguero+Mkhi

    1. Fantastisk
      8 years, 2 months ago

      A

    2. thom830g
      8 years, 2 months ago

      a

  21. bigblackcat
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Best 4.0 Defender apart from Wan-Bissaka?

    1. Fantastisk
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Bednarek

    2. Audacious Goose - Meyer of …
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Peltier after the injury clears but the choices are limited

    3. child of God
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Bennet

      1. Gazpilicueta
        8 years, 2 months ago

        I like Bennet too.

  22. stat
    8 years, 2 months ago

    A) Eriksen + Jota
    B) Sanchez + Fraser

    1. Siggy in the Middle
      8 years, 2 months ago

      A

  23. Root
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Why does RMT tool hate Azpilicueta?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Today.

      1. Root
        8 years, 2 months ago

        Wtf did he do?

    2. Fantastisk
      8 years, 2 months ago

      I think you're supposed to post that in a different thread. Mods?

    3. badgerboy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Odd. Normally loves him.

    4. Egg noodle
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Have a look at Alonso...

  24. Rash
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Didn't see the game. Could someone please summarise what was learnt from it

    1. Egg noodle
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Pointless preseason game. Nothing learnt.

      1. Fantastisk
        8 years, 2 months ago

        This

    2. Siggy in the Middle
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Mendy a great attacking option.

      Aguero is as deadly as ever.

      Mahrez mightn't be as good a choice as it initially seemed.

      Sane was very poor. Hindered Mendy going forward too.

      Pedro was dreadful.

      Morata went missing.

      Chelsea defence looks terrible.

      B. Silva looks a great option.

      1. Rash
        8 years, 2 months ago

        Thank you. Were chelsea that bad?

        1. Siggy in the Middle
          8 years, 2 months ago

          Can't recall any moment in the game where they looked threatening.

      2. S.Kuqi
        8 years, 2 months ago

        Good sum up

      3. Gorgles
        8 years, 2 months ago

        Do you think Bilva will keep his spot once KDB and Dilva are back? Would be a great option.

    3. AIRMILES
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Aguero looks hot, as does Bernardo Silva and Mendy. Willy might be a satisfactory number 1 if Courtois moves on

    4. barracuda
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Luiz- crap

    5. Mmm sausages
      8 years, 2 months ago

      David Luiz is quality and should be first choice in everyone’s team

    6. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Aguero and Mendy essential

  25. ☈☾
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Still confused between Tosun v Arnie

    Thoughts?

    1. Fantastisk
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Arnie easy

    2. child of God
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Tosun for me.

    3. Andy_Social
      8 years, 2 months ago

      One heads a team I tip to finish 7th, the other's team I tip to finish 12th.

      Arnie for me.

  26. TheSteel
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Kun TSB up almost 4% since before the match

    1. Fantastisk
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Casuals

      1. Oven Glover
        8 years, 2 months ago

        FFS:ers*

        1. Fantastisk
          8 years, 2 months ago

          I don't think experienced people on here (some with as many as nine years, according to their badge) would be knee jerking after a glorified friendly?

          1. Andy_Social
            8 years, 2 months ago

            Think again!

          2. Rasping Drive
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            8 years, 2 months ago

            Most of such posters already had him in their team 😉

          3. Camp No No
            8 years, 2 months ago

            😆 People here are the greatest knee jerkers of them all.

            1. Camp No No
              8 years, 2 months ago

              It's the casuals who won't jerk on friendlies. Because they don't follow them.

              That said, this is actually a good match to get information for the GW1 lineups and form.

    2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      8 years, 2 months ago

      probably to do with the fpl twitter account banging on about aguero

    3. the snazzy viking
      8 years, 2 months ago

      the sheep herding towards a template I see

      1. the snazzy viking
        8 years, 2 months ago

        that's 100,000 managers

        1. Brosstan
          8 years, 2 months ago

          Im one of them 😎

          1. the snazzy viking
            8 years, 2 months ago

            shockingly unacceptable .. 😉

  27. ☈☾
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Beltier or Bednarek??

    1. ☈☾
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Peltier* oops

    2. Gazpilicueta
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Belter

  28. Gazpilicueta
    8 years, 2 months ago

    I just got that feeling.... that feeling I get every year now, when I'm knee deep in deliberations, considering structures, players, tactics etc and I realise.... Whoever I go for now, the list of players who were "very nearly" in my time is so long, that its almost impossible for me to actually do well.

    🙁 anyone else?

    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      8 years, 2 months ago

      that's why you start your draft in the last few days 🙂

    2. Oven Glover
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Just copy Scotty B’s team and you’ll be fine. He’s had a lot of help putting that side together so it must be perfect by now.

      1. Gazpilicueta
        8 years, 2 months ago

        lol, busy boy is he?

  29. Bielsa's Bucket
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Stones had the most touches (104), made the most passes (91) with highest accuracy (87%) along with highest amount of interceptions (4). Who also had the highest amount of possession of any player (8%).

    These stats are kinda skewed due to the amount of subs and minutes on pitch however. It is just a glorified friendly has any United fan will tell you.

    1. Bielsa's Bucket
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Worth noting he was playing in a midfield role after Kompany came onto the pitch.

  30. OPTA FPL
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Best 4.5M defender? (not Tomkins, have him)

    1. Ask Yourself
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Kabasele rotates really well

    2. Scotty B
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Cook

    3. Chris_White
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Schindler