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5 August 2018 3766 comments
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Fantasy Premier League managers have been handed an early look at Chelsea and Manchester City ahead of the 2018/19 season – and we’ve already learned a few things from the Community Shield team-sheets.

Much to our excitment, the cheaper options of Pedro (£6.5m) and Callum Hudson-Odoi (£4.5m) were both selected in Chelsea’s starting line-up.

FPL defender Victor Moses (£6.0m) was named among the substitutes but could get involved in the attacking front-three in the second-half, and is worth watching.

As for Manchester City, more of their returning World Cup stars have been declared fit for the Community Sheild than was initially expected.

Fantasy managers should pay attention to how well they cope with the occasion as they are competing today without much preparation since coming back to training.

Riyad Mahrez (£9.0m), Leroy Sané (£9.5m) and Benjamin Mendy (£6.0m) are of particular note as they were all in the Manchester City training camp this summer.

Meanwhile, a start for Phil Foden (£5.0m), with Raheem Sterling (£11.0m) and Kevin De Bruyne (£10.0m) yet to return to club duties, could provide a value route into their midfield for the early part of the season.

For more detail on the areas to follow in today’s match, READ THIS ARTICLE.

CHELSEA XI (4-3-3): Caballero; Alonso, David Luiz, Rüdiger, Azpilicueta; Barkley, Jorginho, Fabregas; Pedro, Morata, Hudson-Odoi.

MANCHESTER CITY XI (4-2-3-1): Bravo; Mendy, Laporte, Stones, Walker; Fernandinho, Foden; Mahrez, Bernardo, Sane; Aguero.

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  1. stat
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Who do you think the best max 5.5m mid is for the first couple of weeks?
      Someone like Fraser, or someone like Ralls who is on set pieces?

      1. Chris_White
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Armstrong

        1. stat
            7 years, 8 months ago

            Interesting option but Southampton are terrible

        2. Obi-1 Kenobi-0
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          I’ve actually been considering Fraser, yeah. Bournemouth have good fixtures and he’s been fairly decent in pre-season on the left of a 4-4-2.

        3. Fantastisk
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          Fernandinho

          1. stat
              7 years, 8 months ago

              Takes up a valuable City spot

          2. captainjilflex
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 8 months ago

            definitely fraser. i think he could be a steal for 5.5

          3. Mr_Moore
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 8 months ago

            Fraser is good but Atsu or Ward-Prowse should also get shouts based on preseason.

          4. Brosstan
            • 11 Years
            7 years, 8 months ago

            Mooy. Will score against Chelsea, you heard it here first.

          5. Gold Monster
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            7 years, 8 months ago

            Billing

        4. FantaCity
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          Chances of D Silva starting in GW1 ?

          1. LosBlancos
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 8 months ago

            low I think

          2. Daaf
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 8 months ago

            Where was he anyway?

        5. LosBlancos
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          So in light of recent performance, dropping Luiz for Tomkins and leaving 1m itb for a possible "upgrade" of Mahrez > KDB or anything else that might arise

          1. FantaCity
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 8 months ago

            Hard to tell, but might be safest at the start

            1. LosBlancos
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              Yeah, also starting with TAA so might use it for TAA > VVDas well, if necessary.

        6. Pieterke30
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          How many Aubameyang-convinced managers going for Aguero instead after today’s showings?

          1. Holmes
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 8 months ago

            Not me but many will

          2. Fantastisk
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 8 months ago

            Zero

          3. FantaCity
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 8 months ago

            Still both for me

            1. Sanchit
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              No Salah then?

              1. FantaCity
                • 13 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Yes Salah then

          4. Collie01
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 8 months ago

            Ive been on the fence but leaning towards Kun now

          5. thom830g
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 8 months ago

            both for me

          6. Mmm sausages
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 8 months ago

            Both.

        7. Siggy in the Middle
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          KDB expected to start Gameweek 1?

          1. Mmm sausages
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 8 months ago

            Doubt it

        8. Football Heaven
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          I know it’s been asked a million times but mane or firmino?

          1. JaydenLFC87
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 8 months ago

            Mane out of the 2

          2. Fantastisk
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 8 months ago

            Firmino

          3. nisag17
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            7 years, 8 months ago

            Mane because of pens right now.

        9. JaydenLFC87
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          Can I get a cheeky RMT for the below please?

          McCarthy
          Baines Kabasele Shaw
          Salah Sanchez Milivojevic Mane
          Defoe Aguero Mitrovic

          Fabianski CHO Zanka Wan-Bissaka

          All being well will mean I have 7 first choice spot kickers

          1. stat
              7 years, 8 months ago

              Defoe is not going to be a starter probably

          2. Fantastisk
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 8 months ago

            Bottomed: where was D Silva today?

            1. Baps Hunter
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              No idea, but he is out of my team now.

          3. Lone Wolf FPL
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 8 months ago

            So annoying. 0.5 short to my perfect team...
            Need to downgrade Jota to Cairney and now have spare money ITB..doesnt feel good. Like undone puzzles 🙂

            1. Fantastisk
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              I'm a few more than that short of my ideal team lol

            2. Ask Yourself
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              Costa ? Be as influential as jota I think to begin with at least

              1. Marvin.
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                There was a Wolves fan on earlier who swore that Costa will be at least as good as Jota.

                1. Andy_Social
                  • 13 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  I've convinced myself of that on the basis I had to trim Jota to afford the latest tweak. Suddenly Costa is magic!

          4. Viper
            • 16 Years
            7 years, 8 months ago

            I'm really liking the look of Sigurdsson and will be taking him into my gwk 1 tram most likely.

            -New attacking coach
            -Strong FPL history
            -Set Piece monopoly (hopefully anyway with pens)
            -Strong fixtures
            -Can score from long distances at any time.

            Worth an initial punt imo and a switch to Mkhitaryan or Ozil should be pretty straight forward when we've had a couple of weeks to assess Arsenal and allow fixtures to ease.

            1. noahzark22
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              I've been on him since the start. sometimes double with richarlison.

            2. Cok3y5murf
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              Richarlison and Walcott looked better in the last game

            3. The Big Fella
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              I started with him but then got rid of him. Everton have been shite in pre-season.

          5. RubberDucky
              7 years, 8 months ago

              So we're Chelsea that bad defensively that they can't keep CS against lower opposition?

              1. LosBlancos
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 8 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Well probably not, with Kane yet to feature especially. But not sure I fancy Luiz at 5.5 with possible competition from Christiansen, and with Willian staying I assume he won't get any set pieces either

                1. RubberDucky
                    7 years, 8 months ago

                    How did Pedro do?

                    1. Siggy in the Middle
                      • 10 Years
                      7 years, 8 months ago

                      Awful.

                    2. LosBlancos
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 8 Years
                      7 years, 8 months ago

                      They were all poor

                2. barracuda
                  • 9 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  Forget about your defence. You are doomed with Morata.

                3. THFC4LIFE
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 9 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  They weren’t great but they won’t play City every week

                4. Andy_Social
                  • 13 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  Bear in mind they'll have Kante back - they'll be okay.

              2. Flynny
                • 11 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                If I want bsilva in my team it will mean sacrificing richarlison or jota?

                Any view on better option of those 2 6.5s?

                Thanks

                1. UshFPL
                  • 9 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  Sell Jota, he's unproven in the PL

                2. DV8R
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 15 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  Same dilemma, maybe Jota.

              3. UshFPL
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Firmino and Hughes/Costa or Zaha and Bilva

              4. Sammy S
                • 14 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Reckon Trent Alexander-Arnold is likely to start the first game for Liverpool? Tempted to go for him ahead of Robertson

                1. LosBlancos
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 8 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  I think so, Klopp commented on his eagerness to come back to train so he could feature as early as possible. I doubled up on Robbo and Trent (previously Robbo and VVD)

                2. Cok3y5murf
                  • 9 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  I doubt it. Clyne has played the whole pre-season while Trent just played under 30 minutes.

                  1. Sammy S
                    • 14 Years
                    7 years, 8 months ago

                    Didn't watch the game but saw lots saying Clyne played poorly in Liverpool's last friendly

                  2. Fantastisk
                    • 8 Years
                    7 years, 8 months ago

                    This

                3. Pep's Money Laundry
                  • 10 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  Clyne will start against whu, TAA is far from ready to start a game

                  1. LosBlancos
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 8 Years
                    7 years, 8 months ago

                    Not based on Klopp's comment he isn't.

                4. nisag17
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 16 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  Wait for the last friendly. He didn't start against Napoli

              5. The Tinkerman
                • 10 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                It’s inflexible, but I’m going with this I think:

                DDG
                Mendy, Robertson, Luiz
                Salah, Mahrez, Jota, Richarlison
                Aguero, Tosun, King

                4.0; Stephens, Schlupp, WBis

                Will eventually restructure for KDB and Auba over Aguero and Mahrez.

                1. Gold Monster
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 15 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  Tosun to Arnie, surely?

              6. barracuda
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Man Utd v Leicester?

                2:0

                1. UshFPL
                  • 9 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  1-1

                2. Ask Yourself
                  • 9 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  Yeah probs

                3. fedolefan
                  • 11 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  2-1 I think.. Nacho looks in the mood.

                4. Dr. Rog
                  • 16 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  1-1 sanchez maddisson (wagon)

                5. Fantastisk
                  • 8 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  1-0 Leicester

                6. the snazzy viking
                  • 9 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  1-2 Leicester

                7. Mmm sausages
                  • 7 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  1-0. Boring boring Jose

              7. Football Heaven
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Realistically are zaha and arnie actually worth 7.0 now they’ll get fewer points consideringtheyre playing in the same position as they were when they got the majority of their points last season?

                1. Ask Yourself
                  • 9 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  Zaha no but Arnie yes has an attacking manager that wants to score goals. The fact he became an option under Moyes is saying something

                2. Powers106
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 10 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  Less points for goals but potentially better baps possible?

                3. barracuda
                  • 9 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  More baps

                4. Andy_Social
                  • 13 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  I think so; I've got both.

              8. Powers106
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 10 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Am I the only one who wasn’t that impressed by Firmino at WC? It’s just the big question if Salah will feed him, vs taking Arnie (cheaper, fixture proof) — I am waiting but also to say defo ejecting Shakiri and Mahrez, 2 great bench guys for FA Cup etc runs, never involved every GW! Thoughts?

                1. Sánchez
                  • 13 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  He didn't get many minutes to be fair

                2. The Tinkerman
                  • 10 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  Sturridge also looks sharp, unfortunately for FPL. Shaqiri is probably a risk to Manes minutes too. Will wait to see what Klopp does rotation wise, but if Sturridge is injured again, which seems likely, Firmino looks value.

                  1. rjcv177
                    • 10 Years
                    7 years, 8 months ago

                    So...shaqiri is a threat to Mane's minutes.
                    2 questions. Wich place/sides mane and salah play?
                    Where has shaq played the last few seasons?

                  2. barracuda
                    • 9 Years
                    7 years, 8 months ago

                    Can Shaq play on the left?

                3. badgerboy
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 10 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  Hard to impress when your barely getting any minutes. Go with your gut imo.

              9. Emiliano Sala
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Mahrez flagged
                Will he start next game?

                1. Emiliano Sala
                  • 9 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  Shouldn't be sane instead?

                2. TorresMagic™
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • Has Moderation Rights
                  • 16 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  Presser during week.

                3. badgerboy
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 10 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  He was flagged before the game so it should come off soon.

                4. Epic Fail
                  • 15 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  He was flagged before the game started.

                5. LosBlancos
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 8 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  That flag is from earlier. I think he starts.

              10. Dr. Rog
                • 16 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Building a ghost team (no transfers all season)

                A) Auba+Arnie
                B) Aguero+Mkhi

                1. Fantastisk
                  • 8 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  A

                2. thom830g
                  • 8 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  a

              11. bigblackcat
                • 7 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Best 4.0 Defender apart from Wan-Bissaka?

                1. Fantastisk
                  • 8 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  Bednarek

                2. Audacious Goose - Meyer of …
                  • 7 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  Peltier after the injury clears but the choices are limited

                3. child of God
                  • 7 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  Bennet

                  1. Gazpilicueta
                    • 11 Years
                    7 years, 8 months ago

                    I like Bennet too.

              12. stat
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  A) Eriksen + Jota
                  B) Sanchez + Fraser

                  1. Siggy in the Middle
                    • 10 Years
                    7 years, 8 months ago

                    A

                • Root
                  • 14 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  Why does RMT tool hate Azpilicueta?

                  1. TorresMagic™
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • Has Moderation Rights
                    • 16 Years
                    7 years, 8 months ago

                    Today.

                    1. Root
                      • 14 Years
                      7 years, 8 months ago

                      Wtf did he do?

                  2. Fantastisk
                    • 8 Years
                    7 years, 8 months ago

                    I think you're supposed to post that in a different thread. Mods?

                  3. badgerboy
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 10 Years
                    7 years, 8 months ago

                    Odd. Normally loves him.

                  4. Egg noodle
                    • 16 Years
                    7 years, 8 months ago

                    Have a look at Alonso...

                • Rash
                  • 8 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  Didn't see the game. Could someone please summarise what was learnt from it

                  1. Egg noodle
                    • 16 Years
                    7 years, 8 months ago

                    Pointless preseason game. Nothing learnt.

                    1. Fantastisk
                      • 8 Years
                      7 years, 8 months ago

                      This

                  2. Siggy in the Middle
                    • 10 Years
                    7 years, 8 months ago

                    Mendy a great attacking option.

                    Aguero is as deadly as ever.

                    Mahrez mightn't be as good a choice as it initially seemed.

                    Sane was very poor. Hindered Mendy going forward too.

                    Pedro was dreadful.

                    Morata went missing.

                    Chelsea defence looks terrible.

                    B. Silva looks a great option.

                    1. Rash
                      • 8 Years
                      7 years, 8 months ago

                      Thank you. Were chelsea that bad?

                      1. Siggy in the Middle
                        • 10 Years
                        7 years, 8 months ago

                        Can't recall any moment in the game where they looked threatening.

                    2. S.Kuqi
                      • 13 Years
                      7 years, 8 months ago

                      Good sum up

                    3. Gorgles
                      • 11 Years
                      7 years, 8 months ago

                      Do you think Bilva will keep his spot once KDB and Dilva are back? Would be a great option.

                  3. AIRMILES
                    • 14 Years
                    7 years, 8 months ago

                    Aguero looks hot, as does Bernardo Silva and Mendy. Willy might be a satisfactory number 1 if Courtois moves on

                  4. barracuda
                    • 9 Years
                    7 years, 8 months ago

                    Luiz- crap

                  5. Mmm sausages
                    • 7 Years
                    7 years, 8 months ago

                    David Luiz is quality and should be first choice in everyone’s team

                  6. Scapegoat Salah
                    • 9 Years
                    7 years, 8 months ago

                    Aguero and Mendy essential

                • ☈☾
                  • 8 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  Still confused between Tosun v Arnie

                  Thoughts?

                  1. Fantastisk
                    • 8 Years
                    7 years, 8 months ago

                    Arnie easy

                  2. child of God
                    • 7 Years
                    7 years, 8 months ago

                    Tosun for me.

                  3. Andy_Social
                    • 13 Years
                    7 years, 8 months ago

                    One heads a team I tip to finish 7th, the other's team I tip to finish 12th.

                    Arnie for me.

                • TheSteel
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 13 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  Kun TSB up almost 4% since before the match

                  1. Fantastisk
                    • 8 Years
                    7 years, 8 months ago

                    Casuals

                    1. Oven Glover
                      • 10 Years
                      7 years, 8 months ago

                      FFS:ers*

                      1. Fantastisk
                        • 8 Years
                        7 years, 8 months ago

                        I don't think experienced people on here (some with as many as nine years, according to their badge) would be knee jerking after a glorified friendly?

                        1. Andy_Social
                          • 13 Years
                          7 years, 8 months ago

                          Think again!

                        2. Rasping Drive
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 16 Years
                          7 years, 8 months ago

                          Most of such posters already had him in their team 😉

                        3. Camp No No
                          • 12 Years
                          7 years, 8 months ago

                          😆 People here are the greatest knee jerkers of them all.

                          1. Camp No No
                            • 12 Years
                            7 years, 8 months ago

                            It's the casuals who won't jerk on friendlies. Because they don't follow them.

                            That said, this is actually a good match to get information for the GW1 lineups and form.

                  2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
                    • 15 Years
                    7 years, 8 months ago

                    probably to do with the fpl twitter account banging on about aguero

                  3. the snazzy viking
                    • 9 Years
                    7 years, 8 months ago

                    the sheep herding towards a template I see

                    1. the snazzy viking
                      • 9 Years
                      7 years, 8 months ago

                      that's 100,000 managers

                      1. Brosstan
                        • 11 Years
                        7 years, 8 months ago

                        Im one of them 😎

                        1. the snazzy viking
                          • 9 Years
                          7 years, 8 months ago

                          shockingly unacceptable .. 😉

                • ☈☾
                  • 8 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  Beltier or Bednarek??

                  1. ☈☾
                    • 8 Years
                    7 years, 8 months ago

                    Peltier* oops

                  2. Gazpilicueta
                    • 11 Years
                    7 years, 8 months ago

                    Belter

                • Gazpilicueta
                  • 11 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  I just got that feeling.... that feeling I get every year now, when I'm knee deep in deliberations, considering structures, players, tactics etc and I realise.... Whoever I go for now, the list of players who were "very nearly" in my time is so long, that its almost impossible for me to actually do well.

                  🙁 anyone else?

                  1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
                    • 15 Years
                    7 years, 8 months ago

                    that's why you start your draft in the last few days 🙂

                  2. Oven Glover
                    • 10 Years
                    7 years, 8 months ago

                    Just copy Scotty B’s team and you’ll be fine. He’s had a lot of help putting that side together so it must be perfect by now.

                    1. Gazpilicueta
                      • 11 Years
                      7 years, 8 months ago

                      lol, busy boy is he?

                • Bielsa's Bucket
                  • 14 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  Stones had the most touches (104), made the most passes (91) with highest accuracy (87%) along with highest amount of interceptions (4). Who also had the highest amount of possession of any player (8%).

                  These stats are kinda skewed due to the amount of subs and minutes on pitch however. It is just a glorified friendly has any United fan will tell you.

                  1. Bielsa's Bucket
                    • 14 Years
                    7 years, 8 months ago

                    Worth noting he was playing in a midfield role after Kompany came onto the pitch.

                • OPTA FPL
                  • 14 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  Best 4.5M defender? (not Tomkins, have him)

                  1. Ask Yourself
                    • 9 Years
                    7 years, 8 months ago

                    Kabasele rotates really well

                  2. Scotty B
                    • 13 Years
                    7 years, 8 months ago

                    Cook

                  3. Chris_White
                    • 14 Years
                    7 years, 8 months ago

                    Schindler