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5 August 2018 3766 comments
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Fantasy Premier League managers have been handed an early look at Chelsea and Manchester City ahead of the 2018/19 season – and we’ve already learned a few things from the Community Shield team-sheets.

Much to our excitment, the cheaper options of Pedro (£6.5m) and Callum Hudson-Odoi (£4.5m) were both selected in Chelsea’s starting line-up.

FPL defender Victor Moses (£6.0m) was named among the substitutes but could get involved in the attacking front-three in the second-half, and is worth watching.

As for Manchester City, more of their returning World Cup stars have been declared fit for the Community Sheild than was initially expected.

Fantasy managers should pay attention to how well they cope with the occasion as they are competing today without much preparation since coming back to training.

Riyad Mahrez (£9.0m), Leroy Sané (£9.5m) and Benjamin Mendy (£6.0m) are of particular note as they were all in the Manchester City training camp this summer.

Meanwhile, a start for Phil Foden (£5.0m), with Raheem Sterling (£11.0m) and Kevin De Bruyne (£10.0m) yet to return to club duties, could provide a value route into their midfield for the early part of the season.

For more detail on the areas to follow in today’s match, READ THIS ARTICLE.

CHELSEA XI (4-3-3): Caballero; Alonso, David Luiz, Rüdiger, Azpilicueta; Barkley, Jorginho, Fabregas; Pedro, Morata, Hudson-Odoi.

MANCHESTER CITY XI (4-2-3-1): Bravo; Mendy, Laporte, Stones, Walker; Fernandinho, Foden; Mahrez, Bernardo, Sane; Aguero.

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  1. ☈☾
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Hamer or Speroni?

    1. Scotty B
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Speroni

      1. Gazpilicueta
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        wouldnt go anywhere near speroni personally.

      2. DantheManinaPan
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        No logical reason could draw you to this conclusion

    2. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Hamer

      1. Poppa Klopp
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Ham otherwise you’ll drop value

    3. FC Barkerlona
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Neither will play, but Hamer as there are quite a few Palace assets worthy of the watchlist and you wouldn't want Speroni taking one of the 3 spots.

  2. Holmes
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Quickie:

    A) Mahrez and 5m defender
    B) Sigurdsson and Walker

    Selected player will be my 3rd mid

    1. Lone Wolf FPL
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      I like Mahrez pick a lot!

    2. Gold Monster
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Would prefer Rich & Walker

  3. Gorgles
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    A) Sane and Arna
    B) Fraser and Auba

    I already have Salah and Aguero.

    1. Chris_White
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      A

    2. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      B

    3. Gorgles
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Mane* not Sane

  4. LIARS POKER
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    For once we have a load of good cheap striker options, struggling to pick 2 though, guess we will all be interchanging them throughout.

    Pick 2 to start:

    A) Zaha
    B) King
    C) Arnie
    D) Tosun

    Currently on B and D but not sure

    1. TAT
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Same issue, and currently on B and D as well!

    2. Podge
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      They’ll all barely break 100

  5. Fantastisk
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    B Silva a long term option? Who will replace him?

  6. Siggy in the Middle
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Blanked previously.

    KDB to start Gameweek 1? Or would I best off going for Bilva?

    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      I think Bilva more likely to start, but after that KDB will be ever present.

      1. Siggy in the Middle
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        So are you saying that I should start off with Bilva and swap?

        1. Epic Fail
          • 15 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          May as well have a big hitter as a place holder if you're gonna do a straight swap.

    2. Egg noodle
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      KDB will certainly 100% not start GW1

  7. stat
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Would you take Milivojevic over Jota?
      On the face of it Jota has a higher ceiling, but he's also unproven in the PL - on the other hand, Mili is on FKs and penalties and Palace tend to get many penalties (not just last season, IIRC). Mili just seems like the perfect set and forget 6.5 mid, whereas with Jota I'll be wanting to get rid of him if he blanks in 2-3 games.

      1. Rotation's Alter Ego
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        How hard would Palace get hit by a lack of Zaha? I don't have any stats on who won the penalties, but I wouldn't be surprised if his jinxing runs caused a lot of the penalties / free kicks that benefited Mili.

        1. stat
            7 years, 8 months ago

            Oh yeah I'm assuming that Zaha stays. If he leaves then surely Mili's appeal is significantly lower.

            1. rjcv177
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              Zaha is holding thr future of mili and...hazard lol
              If sarri gets zaha, he might push hazard to striker à la mertens 😉
              that is my deepest wish for next few days 😉

        2. Hazz
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          Really good point STAT. I'll definitely think about that.

          1. stat
              7 years, 8 months ago

              Number of penalties won by Palace in the PL since their promotion:
              13/14 - 6
              14/15 - 6
              15/16 - 5
              16/17 - 7
              17/18 - 10

              Mili is probably the safest (and most boring) option at 6.5.
              However I think I would drive myself crazy having a set and forget mid who could blank 10 games in a row because Palace don't get any penalties in that time...

          2. Rasping Drive
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            7 years, 8 months ago

            If Mili blanks for 2-3 games, why wouldn’t you consider getting rid of him?

            1. stat
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Because he might get a pen in the next game.
                Lets say Palace get 7 penalties next season - in theory Mili could blank for 31 GWs in a row and then score a penalty in each of the last 7 GWs.
                For me Mili is a total set and forget, if you're going to get him you do so intending to keep him for a very long time in order to catch as many penalties as possible.

                1. Rasping Drive
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 16 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  Who takes penalties for Wolves?

                  1. stat
                      7 years, 8 months ago

                      Last season they had 6 penalties which were all taken by different players.
                      This season they've had 2 in pre-season which were both taken by Neves - he scored one, but missed the most recent one... so it's anybody's guess.

                      1. Rasping Drive
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 16 Years
                        7 years, 8 months ago

                        Ta

            2. Afghanistanislas
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              Who's the best GK for 4.5m (to start every game):
              A) Patricio
              B) Fabianski
              C) Foster

              1. dunas_dog
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 10 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Patricio

            3. Egg noodle
              • 16 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              That GW1 Mancity fixture is so annoying. It's stopping me from doubling up on Mancity defence

              1. Andy_Social
                • 13 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Doesn't deter me.

              2. La Roja
                • 14 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                I’m thinking to captain Aguero, juicy fixture

            4. Zilla
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              'Aguero is the best striker in the Premier League. I'd take him ahead of Kane..' - Rio Ferdinand.

              @Kuntheman

              1. Cok3y5murf
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Well duh

              2. The Big Fella
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                He is always the first name on my team sheet every year. This year I put in him, Auba and Salah and they haven't moved since.

              3. Ask Yourself
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Different types of players Aguero is better on the shoulder of the defender his movement makes him great. Kane has developed excellent build up play and a devastating shot. I’d rather have kane in my team than Aguero.

                1. Ask Yourself
                  • 9 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  In a real team that is

              4. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
                • 15 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                They are different strikers and will suit different styles of play

                Kane obviously suits spurs play down to a tee, whilst city don't completely go through aguero like spurs do

              5. Pacer.
                • 11 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                What is the point in Rio Ferdinand

            5. Lone Wolf FPL
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              Best 4.5 mid are Tomkins, Cedric(after gw1 probably) and Wolves?
              Any other? Cheers!

              1. Lone Wolf FPL
                • 10 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                defs*

              2. Afghanistanislas
                • 8 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Kabasele

                1. Lone Wolf FPL
                  • 10 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  oh, good idea

              3. Brosstan
                • 11 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Dunk

            6. Boxwoods
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              A. Arnie + 4.5 5th mid (bench fodder)
              B. King + 5.0 5th mid (usually benched, may start the occasional match).

              Either fwd to partner Auba in 2 fwd formation.

            7. dunas_dog
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              Chances of KDB starting game 1?

              If not would you be OK about Neves off bench or would you get BSilva or Mahrez or even Mané for next week and transfer following week for City great run.

              My feeling is to just getcKDB now

            8. Piggs Boson
              • 14 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              Was Pep implying that Mendy was backup to Delph?

              1. Siggy in the Middle
                • 10 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Seemed that way but Mendy was good today. He's a much better play than Delph. Surely he should be first choice.

              2. The Big Fella
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                What did he say?

                1. Piggs Boson
                  • 14 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  "Fabian Delph is not ready, so it is good we have this option with Benjamin. It is good for him to play"

              3. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
                • 15 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                that's one thing that intrigued me. Did you see the interview.

                He said it as if it wasn't so clear cut that delph was his backup

                1. Piggs Boson
                  • 14 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  Yeah. We know he likes Delph, and the option of using inverted fullbacks. So it is a bit worrying tbh.

              4. Cok3y5murf
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                I don't think so, although he made it sound that way the troll

              5. Epic Fail
                • 15 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                I'm glad I didn't hear it so I can choose Mendy in bliss ignorance.

            9. Egg noodle
              • 16 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              Firmino has piss poor stats, I'm surprised he keeps scoring on FPL

              1. Syd.
                • 16 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Its just not about the stats when it comes to real football

              2. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
                • 10 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                They're really not that bad but he certainly overperformed last season.

            10. Poppa Klopp
              • 7 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              Hi

              Please help me with this pickle:

              A) Kun & Fraser
              B) Sané & Arni

            11. Flynny
              • 11 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              What is the view on bailly v luiz now?

              Considering United may buy a CB before Friday and luiz not great today.

              Thanks

              1. Siggy in the Middle
                • 10 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                I'd imagine if we get a new CB, he'll partner Bailly instead of replacing him.

              2. Syd.
                • 16 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Mangala could give those 2 a run for the worse CB in the PL

                1. Gold Monster
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 15 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  Lovren wants a word

              3. Jamie_GAWA
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                no idea, I had this same issue and ive settled on

                6m,6m,4.5,4.5,4.0

                1. Flynny
                  • 11 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  Who are the 2 x 4.5s??

                  Tomkins and someone else?

                  Looking to squeeze bilva into my team....

                  1. Jamie_GAWA
                    • 9 Years
                    7 years, 8 months ago

                    tomkins and Boly/Doherty

            12. thom830g
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              Best 4,5 mid?

              1. Poppa Klopp
                • 7 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Ward or Stephens

              2. Gold Monster
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 15 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Billing

            13. Patson Dabaka
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              B. Silva to start with. Keep 1m for when D. Silva is up and running. What you reckon?

              1. Chris_White
                • 14 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Personally staying away from the City midfield for now. May get KDB on WC.

              2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
                • 15 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                kdb or sterling would be the ones who I think will be permanent fixtures

            14. Jamie_GAWA
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              Bernardo Silva has Arsenal first then all the big guns are back so could he potentially not be a good short term punt?

              1. Mauricios Cappuccino
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Arsenal fixture doesnt sound bad to me..

            15. Mike82
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              Think I will steer well clear of Chelsea assets for the time being.

            16. Duka
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              What do you guys think?

              Patricio
              Mendy|Robertson|Boly
              Salah(c)|Richarlison|Bilva|Sanchez
              Arnautovic|Aguero|Austin

              Fabianski|Tomkins|CHO|Bisakka

              Can't believe I actually fit salah,sanchez and agero in there although not sure if its worth having 10+ mil player if you are hardly ever gonna captain him in this team (sanchez).

              1. Rotation's Alter Ego
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • Has Moderation Rights
                • 14 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Hey 🙂 Would you mind posting this over on the RMT community article? It would be better suited there, plus you can help other people out whilst you're there 😉

                https://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2018/08/04/rmt-collection-zoumasbloomers

                I think downgrading Sanchez slightly could benefit the rest of your team quite a bit. Perhaps to Mane, and improve Boly or similar?

                1. Duka
                  • 9 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  Sure, no problem

              2. Tornado
                • 16 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Like it...question mark over rich points vs azpi for example

            17. EgyptianKing
              • 7 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              A) De Gea; Tomkins; Robertson; Mendy
              B) Ederson; Luiz; Robertson; Bailly

              What do you prefer?

              Another question/debate - is Shaw nailed?

              1. Mike82
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Shaw nailed for maybe 2/3 weeks, depends how he performs I’d say

              2. The Pesci challenge
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                B

            18. DantheManinaPan
              • 12 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              FINALLY found some signal so I can see the CS result.

              Aguero really making me worry Auba is the wrong pick!
              I assume he's in everyone's team now?

              I think I'm gonna stick with Auba. Every chance Jesus starts that dreaded Huddersfield game

            19. Gringo Kid
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 7 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              Foden is the biggest value, 5.0, same rotation risk as for any other City mids

              1. Lone Wolf FPL
                • 10 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                not same as other City mids

              2. Mauricios Cappuccino
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                lol

            20. royals forever
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              In your opinion which better and/or more nailed on option to have out of

              Mendy
              Bailly

              for the first 6 or so GWs

              Any ideas would be welcomed

              1. Mauricios Cappuccino
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Mendy better
                Bailly more nailed

              2. Lone Wolf FPL
                • 10 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Mandy better and same naied(ish) as Bailly imo

              3. klavan
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Mendy

              4. Recoba
                • 12 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                My guess is if Aldy comes he’ll partner Bailly but it would cast extra doubt on playtime. Mendy more secure

            21. thom830g
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              Best 5m def guys?

            22. child of God
              • 7 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              Any chance deeney and gray play together?

            23. DA Minnion (Former great)
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              No sign of David Silva today lads
              Any word?

              1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
                • 15 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                I read an article at the end of last season which said his minutes would be managed this season due to his age.

                Don't think he's a permanent fixture, will rotate in and out

                1. Lone Wolf FPL
                  • 10 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  this

                2. DA Minnion (Former great)
                  • 13 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  Ok not really an option then.

              2. Syd.
                • 16 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Was back in full training last week

              3. Patch
                • 8 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Prob sunning himself on holiday somewhere...

            24. Regin
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              I am thinking of going ederson Mendy Aguero. Just don't know who will start for man city in midfield. Mane safer option along with Salah in midfield. Aguero I reckon will be nailed atleast till cl starts. Way u guys think?

              1. flippetyflop
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 12 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                How sure are we that Ederson starts next weekend?

                1. Root
                  • 14 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  100%?

              2. Mauricios Cappuccino
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                I think thats a good way to go.

              3. Celt Abroad
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 13 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                That’s the three I’m going for. Very tempted by Mahrez, but there just seem to be too many options in that midfield.

              4. European Bob
                • 13 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Yep those 3 from City, mane, Salah and Robertson for me. Tempted to downgrade robbo to trent

              5. Ask Yourself
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Mistake not taking a mid