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5 August 2018 3766 comments
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Fantasy Premier League managers have been handed an early look at Chelsea and Manchester City ahead of the 2018/19 season – and we’ve already learned a few things from the Community Shield team-sheets.

Much to our excitment, the cheaper options of Pedro (£6.5m) and Callum Hudson-Odoi (£4.5m) were both selected in Chelsea’s starting line-up.

FPL defender Victor Moses (£6.0m) was named among the substitutes but could get involved in the attacking front-three in the second-half, and is worth watching.

As for Manchester City, more of their returning World Cup stars have been declared fit for the Community Sheild than was initially expected.

Fantasy managers should pay attention to how well they cope with the occasion as they are competing today without much preparation since coming back to training.

Riyad Mahrez (£9.0m), Leroy Sané (£9.5m) and Benjamin Mendy (£6.0m) are of particular note as they were all in the Manchester City training camp this summer.

Meanwhile, a start for Phil Foden (£5.0m), with Raheem Sterling (£11.0m) and Kevin De Bruyne (£10.0m) yet to return to club duties, could provide a value route into their midfield for the early part of the season.

For more detail on the areas to follow in today’s match, READ THIS ARTICLE.

CHELSEA XI (4-3-3): Caballero; Alonso, David Luiz, Rüdiger, Azpilicueta; Barkley, Jorginho, Fabregas; Pedro, Morata, Hudson-Odoi.

MANCHESTER CITY XI (4-2-3-1): Bravo; Mendy, Laporte, Stones, Walker; Fernandinho, Foden; Mahrez, Bernardo, Sane; Aguero.

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  1. Pancake
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Barkley looking nailed

  2. Zilla
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Luiz just blocked Mahrez? :wow:

    1. Defcons are for Kinnear
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Just realized that Luiz and Alonso are playing next to each other

    2. Powers106
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Yeah! Mahrez looks less sharp than I expected!

  3. tm245
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    This seems alot more International Champions Cup than Community Shield. "Look, kids, there's the player whose kit you just bought. Shame he can't be bothered in this heat..."

    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Yep, it's a pre season after all

  4. Defcons are for Kinnear
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    We all have a mate in our team who plays like Alonso. Supposed to be defending but thinks he’s playing FIFA

    1. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      As I say about a million times every season, there are genuinely better players than Alonso in my rubbish Sunday league.

  5. KenyaDigIt
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Any Liverpool fans fancy taking a shot at how Shaqiri will fit into the team?

    Will he be an impact sub? Will he be starting?

    He is young (26), full of confidence, has solid EPL experience and played over 3000 minutes last season. I don't see him being happy as an impact sub?

    1. Ginkapo FPL
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      He seems like the cover for Salah, Mane, Firmino and Keita, but otherwise a sub.

    2. Defcons are for Kinnear
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      I have a feeling Klopp might start Sturridge in GW1 to give him confidence boost and reward his preseason form

    3. Guy Demel
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Cup games and a rotation filler when mane and Salah want a rest.

      1. Oooof
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        This

  6. ★Kuntheman★
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    When all is said and done, Bernardo will probably play the most minutes from all of the rotated attackers. Not necessarily the most starts though.

    I want him to get more minutes over Silva. Get used to that position.

    1. Zilla
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Who do you think will play more in the first 2 GWs? Mahrez or Bilva?

      1. ★Kuntheman★
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        I think Mahrez but they could play the same

      2. rondo55
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Mahrez for me

  7. Ginkapo FPL
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Thinking I might be better of without City for a while, never going to predict who gets points with this team. Too many attackers.

    GK

    1. Deulofail
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      GK is the least likely to score imo

      1. Ginkapo FPL
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Good for a few assists though

        GK

    2. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      what is GK?

      1. diesel001
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Ginkapo = GK

      2. Maddi Son
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        We can't see his name, so we need the initials clarification.

      3. Dokdok666
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Goal Keeper

    3. Forza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Using two initials for one word is weird.

      FZ

      1. Deulofail
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        That's why you use three

        DLF

        1. Our Man Charlie
          • 15 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          Could be good in some ways

          PES

        2. rondo55
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          Ah I see

          RND

      2. Brosstan
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Agreed.

        BSA

  8. Deulofail
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Why do players consistently shoot at the middle of the goal? Hudson-Odoi struck the ball nicely enough, but why not prioritise beating the keeper? Something I can never understand?

    1. Ógie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Have you ever played soccer?

      1. Deulofail
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Try and answer the question. Otherwise the page will turn and all I'll have is this condescending reply 😉 thanks

      2. Zilla
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        FOOTBALL

    2. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Why do players consistently miss the target? I don't understand why the goal is so big and these professional players find row z so often?

    3. Zilla
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      I mean there are a lot of factors when shooting. If you've ever played football you know things like this happen.

      1. Deulofail
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        I know things like this happen. That much is clear from my post. I'm wondering why some players consisently aim for the centre of the goal.

        1. @persecuted_by_mods
            7 years, 8 months ago

            Some responses seem rude to you but for someone who makes such good informed posts normally it's a weird question. They're not aiming for the middle, they're just striking it wrong, it happens

            1. Deulofail
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              Can't say I agree. Hudson-Odoi must know that he needs to change his body shape/angle to aim for another area of the goal. He hit the ball as cleanly as he could have hoped. I think it tends to be more related to a lack of composure and/or pressure to get the ball on taget as quick as possible. But from a spectating point of view, you can often see a clearer picture than the player, which is why it's frustrating, along with the fact they get paid a shite ton of money to just go through the motions without the level of intelligence or efficiency that you'd hope.

              But whatever guys. Better to just seek upvotes for when the new badge comes in 😆

              1. @persecuted_by_mods
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  Not seeking any upvotes, it's genuinely inexplicable that you think people are aiming for the middle of the goal on purpose. My initial thoughts were the same as the other two guys, have you played football before? If you were saying why do professional footballers end up hitting it there that's different to asking why are they aiming for the centre

                  1. @persecuted_by_mods
                      7 years, 8 months ago

                      Also you can have the right body shape and hit the ball as clean as you like and have it end up in the stands. Does that mean they were aiming for the stands?

                      1. Deulofail
                        • 10 Years
                        7 years, 8 months ago

                        Sigh. Nevermind. It's inexplicable. Move on.

                    • Deulofail
                      • 10 Years
                      7 years, 8 months ago

                      I wasn't aiming the upvote comment at you.

                      My initial post said 'shoot at the middle of the goal', not 'aiming', but it all comes under the same umbrella because it's complex, as Zilla alludes too. I'm interested in exploring the explanations for the ball heading towards centre of the goal, be it intentional or not.

                      The most important word in my post was "consisently". Two responses now have said it 'happens', but that's shirking the question of it happening frequently in general and more frequently for specific players.

                      My contentention is that players with a better schematic representation of the current placement of the players around him, the gola and the goalkeeper are much better finishers than those who are less aware or have a less rapid, accurate and dynamic representation of space in their minds. Player may be shooting at the general area of the goal and hoping that the quality of the strike is enough to cause issues in front of goal, because they don't have the time to take a good long look at the situation before striking.

                      But I'm the only one interested in this, so I'm confused as to why I have any replies at all.

                      1. @persecuted_by_mods
                          7 years, 8 months ago

                          Ah fair enough, apologies from all of us then or at least me. Sounded like you were asking why they aim there whether intentional or not- which seems crazy because there are so many factors but now I see you're genuinely interested in all the variables/factors that lead to them happening. I'd still question the consistently part though, would need to see data on where shots end up

            2. @FPL_Chess
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Goalkeepers used to wear a bright coloured jersey so the attacking player would sub-consciously aim at the goalkeeper. Strange but true.

                1. Deulofail
                  • 10 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  Great response. Thanks!

                  I wonder why that would be expected to cause a player to aim at the GK and not away from him, though....

            3. FPL Scoop
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              Luiz or Bailly look to be the better/more nailed pick?

              1. Scotty B
                • 13 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                I have both

              2. Positive vibes
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                In the same boat, who is more nailed?

              3. EgyptianKing
                • 7 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Thinkg of starting the season with both

            4. TEKKERS FC
              • 11 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              Is Hudson nailed for GW1?

            5. falafel
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              A- Zaha, Cedric, Cairney
              B, Kamara, Milivojevic, Luiz

            6. FPL ZB
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              Not sure how this formation will suit Morata, we’re going to struggle to get many crosses in with our full backs deep and ‘wide men’ coming inside at every chance

              1. Ginkapo FPL
                • 14 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                It would suit Giroud though

                1. OPTA FPL
                  • 14 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  GK

              2. diesel001
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Courtois
                Azpi Luiz Rudiger Alonso
                Jorginho Kante
                Willian Fabregas Hazard
                Morata

              3. Andy_Social
                • 13 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                I think when Kante's back the full backs will be able to get up the pitch

            7. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
              • 15 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              Mahrez just has acres of space whenever city break

              1. Syd.
                • 16 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Alonso says hi

            8. Tacalabala
              • 15 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              Just 1 more person need, draft starting in 5 MINUTES

              4 teams min max, h2h, no trades

              236814-57787

            9. the vanisher
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              A. Bernardo Silva - Aguero

              B. Sane - Firmino

              1. Chris_White
                • 14 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                A with Siggy

            10. Scouserso
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              Hi, What do you think about this team?
              Ederson, stekelenburg
              Shaw, bertrand, wanb,mee, daniels
              Mane, Salah, jota, mahrez, odoi
              Aguero, mitrovic, King?

              When kdb and lovren are back I am going to do mane+shaw->kdb+lovren

            11. Norman Conquest
              • 12 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              United’s squad vs Bayern Munich:

              De Gea, Grant
              Darmian, Fosu-Mensah, Tuanzebe, Lindelof, Bailly, Jones, Smalling, Mitchell, Shaw Fred, Herrera, Pereira, McTominay, Garner, Mata Rashford, Sanchez, Chong, Greenwood

              jones is back oooofffff

              1. ChadW98
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                No Martial?

                1. Epic Fail
                  • 15 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  De Gea, Grant
                  Darmian, Fosu-Mensah, Tuanzebe, Lindelof, Bailly, Jones, Smalling, Mitchell, Shaw Fred, Herrera, Pereira, McTominay, Garner, Mata Rashford, Sanchez, Chong, Greenwood

                  1. OPTA FPL
                    • 14 Years
                    7 years, 8 months ago

                    No Martial?

                    1. Norman Conquest
                      • 12 Years
                      7 years, 8 months ago

                      De Gea, Grant
                      Darmian, Fosu-Mensah, Tuanzebe, Lindelof, Bailly, Jones, Smalling, Mitchell, Shaw Fred, Herrera, Pereira, McTominay, Garner, Mata Rashford, Sanchez, Chong, Greenwood

                2. Norman Conquest
                  • 12 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  you will never see him play for united again

              2. Positive vibes
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Is Bailly nailed for gw 1?

                1. Norman Conquest
                  • 12 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  yes unless injured

              3. Brosstan
                • 11 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Friendship ended with LUIZ. Now JONES is my best friend.

            12. FPL Scoop
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              Mahrez Silva or Mahrez and another max8.5 mid

            13. Andy_Social
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              Hi Pedro, forgot you were on the pitch!

              1. EgyptianKing
                • 7 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                True....

                For Pedro and many others it was not at all the best 45 minutes.. Clearly still in pre-season mode

            14. Zladan
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              Happy to keep Pedro and roll the dice on the easy fixtures Chelsea have at the start of the season.

              Chelsea can’t be this bad v Huddersfield, Arsenal etc. Surely?

            15. ChadW98
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              Just 1 more person need, draft starting in 5 MINUTES

              4 teams min max, h2h, no trades

              236814-57787

            16. RamaJama
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              Anyone know how many matches Jesus started over Aguero last season, unless Aguero was injured? 2 or 3 maby? Enough to call it heavy rotation of Kun?

              1. Ser Davos
                • 10 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Remember Jesus starting over Kun GW3 at Bournemouth

              2. Twisted Saltergater
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 16 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Jesus was preferred for the away games

                1. RamaJama
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 13 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  How many last year? 2 or 3?

            17. Leeroy Jenkyns
              • 12 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              Hudson-Odoi by far Chelsea's liveliest player out there.

              1. Epic Fail
                • 15 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Hasn't looked particularly good though.

                1. Leeroy Jenkyns
                  • 12 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  Chelsea hasn't in general. He's at least running at defenders and trying to turn them.

              2. diesel001
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Still looks poor. Willian and Hazard should not be losing any sleep IMO.

              3. TEKKERS FC
                • 11 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Will he be playing GW1?

            18. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
              • 15 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              Pedro down

            19. FantasyFootballFanatic
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              Such a moral panic on the Chelsea players, we all need to chill. This is a first half of a weakened Chelsea side playing a pre-season match against one of the best English sides ever

              1. Andy_Social
                • 13 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                in baking heat without their 2 best players

            20. Brosstan
              • 11 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              Pedro is utterly shite. Hes not coming near my team even at 6.5 and seemingly nailed.

            21. ☈☾
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              Any way to leave a league after joining?

              1. Epic Fail
                • 15 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Go to the leagues page, click on the options next to the league, then click leave.

            22. tm245
              • 14 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              Dinho in midseason form.

            23. Scotty B
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              Pedro or Richarlison?

              1. Epic Fail
                • 15 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Either.

              2. diesel001
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Jota or Walcott.

              3. Zladan
                • 8 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Ah, a new grav. That explains the delusion.

              4. rondo55
                • 7 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Both in my team

                • 7 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Both here

              5. EgyptianKing
                • 7 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                I am on Richarlison currently

              6. FatLever
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Same dilemma here, just wait and see what/if Chelsea sell/buy some that can play/did play winger....
                I love Richarlison but new team, new surroundings.....better to wait there I guess

            24. Ser Davos
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              Stanley Laurel, any thoughts on Bednaerek?