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Fantasy Premier League managers have finally lost patience with Teemu Pukki (£7.1m).

Despite scoring 37 points in the first four Gameweeks of the campaign, the Norwich City striker has attacking returns in just one of his last five Premier League outings.

That has led to a significant drop in Pukki’s ownership ahead of Gameweek 9, 270,000+ managers selling him so far over the international break.

Not surprisingly, that makes the Finland international the most transferred-out player following Gameweek 8, Mohamed Salah (£12.5m) sat behind him on 235,000+ sales.

However, 40.6% of Fantasy managers worldwide are still in possession of Pukki, while he was still the most popular forward in Gameweek 9 teams among the top 10,000 too.

With Norwich preparing for a trip to Bournemouth, who are not exactly famed for a solid defensive record, there will almost certainly be a large number of managers contemplating whether or not to give Pukki one more week.

We’ve taken a look at his underlying statistics over the first eight Gameweeks of the season to find out…

As this article uses data from the Fantasy Football Scout Members Area, only those who have signed up for the 2019/20 season can access it in full.

What has happened to Pukki’s goal threat?

Lessons learned from Gameweek 8

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  1. WVA
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 5 days ago

    Because he plays for Norwich. Yes we should sell him.

  2. FOO FIGHTER
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 5 days ago

    Keeping Pukki one more week. Cantwell defo going.

    1. St Pauli Walnuts
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      Who coming in for Cantwell? I’m probably gonna hold as still decent value even at 4.8.

      1. Legohair
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 5 days ago

        Saka short term but he will drop once laca is back

        1. St Pauli Walnuts
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 5 days ago

          Which is why I'm keeping Cantwell for now. Not bothered about a short term punt for someone who will be on my bench every week.

    2. Feanor
      • 17 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      You can't well keep both of them.

    3. Fpl Richie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      Sounds like a good plan. Cantwell will lose his spot soon enough too imo.

  3. CFC1990
    • 15 Years
    7 years, 5 days ago

    How nailed on is Kelly from Palace?

    Likely to start most games or only playing because of injuries?

    Many thanks for all replies

    1. Amey
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      Playing Because of Injuries.
      But may cement place as he's playing very well

  4. FOO FIGHTER
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 5 days ago

    I am actually thinking Sterling to KDB. Do not feel confident about KDB's fitness and that would make Sterling City's best attacking option should KDB pick up more niggles?

    1. FOO FIGHTER
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      Fail, KDB to Sterling.

      1. George Sillett
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 5 days ago

        Sterling is a season keeper for me. I think that the current trend to sell him will hit many and there will be a mad scramble to get him back involving hits galore. KDB I want but thankfully don't have currently . I want to know whether he starts and Pep ain't going to reveal this before the Palace game. He may say in his usual way that he is fit to start but this means f all in Pep speak.
        20 minutes off the bench imo.

        1. FOO FIGHTER
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 5 days ago

          Will look into it issues creep up with KDB but planning going no City.

        2. Regin
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 5 days ago

          kdb season keeper for me. Unless Sterling plays more centrally, he is not worth 12m playing too wide.

    2. Regin
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      KDB better option. KDB should be fine.

  5. Eat my goal!
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 5 days ago

    Fulham mk2

  6. Amey
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 5 days ago

    Sold ..
    Joined the original Party !!

  7. Ógie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 5 days ago

    What do you expect from a 6.5m player?

    All said and done he is still great value for money and a 3 game barren spell is to be expected for premiums not to mind this lad.

    1. George Sillett
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      Sorry but who ?

      1. fr3d
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 5 days ago

        Jota

      2. Ógie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 5 days ago

        I am on about the article subject Pukki.

        I think lots of managers just sold him because of the impending price drop like KDB and i can kind of understand that considering there are some tasty differentials around that price.

        I get a taste of sick in my mouth too when i see his high ownership and but it is what it is.

    2. Amey
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      Completely agree with you mate.
      Actually the form of Tammy/Wilson turning managers heads IMO.
      Vardy also possible with 2m £ downgrade elsewhere so ..

      I'm sure he'll go on a scoring run again this season

    3. George Sillett
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      I agree with you totally on this if it's Jota. 6.1 is incredible value .

      1. fr3d
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 5 days ago

        Agreed

        1. Amey
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 5 days ago

          😀

    4. I Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      Norwich have scored one goal away from home all season.

      1. FOO FIGHTER
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 5 days ago

        That is quite damning.

      2. Ógie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 5 days ago

        This is a major worry alright but that goal did come against one of the best defenses Liverpool so there is some hope for his owners.

        1. Amey
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 5 days ago

          Maybe that was an outlier with pure energy of being promoted & playing at Anfield ?
          Once they get full squad back, we can always bring him back

          1. Ógie
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 5 days ago

            Maybe but it may also indicate that he is best against better teams and playing on the counter attack.

            2 of his 3 double figure hauls came against Chelsea and Man City for instance.

            1. Amey
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 5 days ago

              Great point
              Didn't notice that tbh.

        2. Eat my goal!
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 5 days ago

          They had an awful pre season defensively so no it wasn’t the best defence

  8. FOO FIGHTER
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 5 days ago

    Wonder if we are going to see Pepe upping his game over the next 8 fixtures? Will be my route to have no City. Fingers crossed! 🙂

    1. Regin
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      not worth 9.5

      1. FOO FIGHTER
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 5 days ago

        That is why I am hoping he turns the corner with Arsenal's great fixture run.

  9. tucaoneo
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 5 days ago

    Looking back it's pretty funny the heavily backed Norwich lost 5-1 to Villa at home. Also funny Villa's form man McGinn walked away with 1 point.

    1. George Sillett
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      Not funny at all. Firstly Norwich were not heavily backed , in fact their price drifted alarmingly on the Saturday before kick off and any individual player can have a non scoring day.

    2. iL PiStOlErO
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      I actually thinked even before the season that Villa will avoid relegation and Norwich and Sheffield hardly.

      1. Regin
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 5 days ago

        sheffield will definitely avoid relegation with their good defense,

        1. iL PiStOlErO
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 5 days ago

          Can be and also some other teams are very poor like New, Wat and Sou.

  10. Brosstan
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 5 days ago

    Because hes playing for a team that will be relegated. Owners mega lucky to get anything at all

    1. Ógie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      Lots of my all time favorite fpl gems came from teams that were ultimately relegated.

      1. George Sillett
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 5 days ago

        Liam Ridgewell and Scott Dan at Birmingham indelibly etched in my mind .

        1. Ógie
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 5 days ago

          Snodgrass and Maguire for Hull and Sigurdsson for Swansea bring back fond memory's for me.

          1. George Sillett
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 4 days ago

            Charlie Adam at Blackpool. Almost forgot ( age thing ).

        2. Amey
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 5 days ago

          Ehh Mitrovic ??
          😉

      2. Coys96
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 5 days ago

        Charlie Austin 😉

      3. RN
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 5 days ago

        Charlie Adam at Blackpool a few years back was gold

    2. Biondi
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 2 days ago

      You forgot Michu mate

  11. Coys96
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 5 days ago

    Pope
    Trent Zinchenko Lundstram Soyuncu
    Sterling Son (c) Mount
    Aguero Pukki Haller

    Button Cantwell Dendoncker Kelly

    Best moves here pls 🙂 :

    1. Haller + Pukki -> Abraham + Wilson (c) (free)
    2. Haller + Zinchenko -> Wilson (c) + Rico (free)
    3. Pukki + Zinchenko -> Wilson (c) + Rico (free)
    4. Pukki, Haller, Zinchenko -> Abraham, Wilson (c), Rico (-4)
    5. Other

    1. iL PiStOlErO
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      would do 3 out of these. 1 is also good but its better to get rid of Zinch and Haller is actually capable of doing something.

    2. Amey
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      3 with Dunk ??

  12. Sotamendi84
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 5 days ago

    best cheap bench mid?
    saka
    dendo
    ?

    1. Amey
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      Dendonker
      Cheaper

    2. Coys96
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      Send

      1. Coys96
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 5 days ago

        Dend*

    3. iL PiStOlErO
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      Dendo or Choudhury if willing to risk

  13. marcus2704
    • 16 Years
    7 years, 5 days ago

    Would you sell Pukki for King?

    1. Coys96
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      No unless it funds another move you're doing

    2. Amey
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      Yes

    3. iL PiStOlErO
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      Do you have someone else in mind except King?

  14. FOO FIGHTER
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 5 days ago

    All these front 3's being posted looking all to similar. Just makes me want to change mine up 🙂

    1. Amey
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      Mine is:
      Tammy Vardy King

    2. George Sillett
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      Good man. Big up vote.

    3. Brosstan
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      Tammy Wilson Vardy

    4. Eat my goal!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      That’s the problem with popularity of sites like this, twitter etc

      1. Ask Yourself
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 5 days ago

        Think posts like this are silly at this stage. People are watching games/seeing who’s scored most points and lots of people agree who is best. This is especially at striker where there are limited options with every team apart from Wolves and Burnley I think playing 1 up top

        1. Eat my goal!
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 5 days ago

          Guarantee there’s plenty who don’t even watch the games but they read the arguments for players and buy into them

          1. Brosstan
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 5 days ago

            If I were running this site I would put fake tips in articles for non members so there is justice and casuals get the low ranks they deserve

            1. Eat my goal!
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 5 days ago

              Nothing like a little game day misinformation

              1. Amey
                • 8 Years
                7 years, 5 days ago

                Aguero not seen in training ??
                😀

                1. Eat my goal!
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 8 Years
                  7 years, 5 days ago

                  Lol

    5. Pinturicchio10
      7 years, 5 days ago

      Content with Pukki, Abraham, Wilson for the time being.

  15. iL PiStOlErO
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 5 days ago

    Currently have 5 players flagged - Mo, KdB, Maddison, Cantwell, Connolly. But I think that most of them, if not all, should recover for the league.

    1. Amey
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      Thinking loudly ?
      😀

      1. iL PiStOlErO
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 5 days ago

        More like looking for some comfort, haha.

        1. Amey
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 5 days ago

          Ha ha
          Tbh, i think you'll be fine.
          Won't play Cantwell Connolly anyways (?)

          1. iL PiStOlErO
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 5 days ago

            Thats right. Those two are not an issue anway. Cheers.

    2. Ógie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      Connolly has been called up for international duty and is set to feature against Georgia so he should be fine if he comes trough that game at least.

      1. iL PiStOlErO
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 5 days ago

        Saw that and thats a good sign. Like it for sure.

        1. Ógie
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 5 days ago

          Indeed

          I think being blooded and getting action at international level is great for a young players development.

  16. AdamJ91
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 5 days ago

    Ederson - Button
    TAA - VVD - Tomori - Soyuncu - Hanley
    Salah - Sterling - KDB - Cantwell - Guendouzi
    Haller - Pukki - Greenwood

    2 FT - 1.4 ITB

    Would you WC this team or are a few changes only needed?

    1. Amey
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      How many changes would you do ??
      (If i had that team, I'd WC)

      1. AdamJ91
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 5 days ago

        Pope - McGovern
        TAA - Soyuncu - Tomori - Rico - Reid
        Mane - KDB - Mount - Maddison - xxx
        Auba - Vardy - Abraham

        That's the proposed team i'd WC too. Would just need a 4.5 mid to finish it off.

        1. Amey
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 5 days ago

          Excellent

    2. Coys96
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      I probably would. Front 3 is pretty poor and defence isn't great.

    3. iL PiStOlErO
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      Dont wc. You have the same problems as most people here who are thinking to wc. Changes that are needed in my opinion are loose double pool defence (VVD), reshuffle attack but maybe keep Haller for now. Also if you want downgrade Ederson to Pope when you have time to do it.

      1. AdamJ91
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 5 days ago

        Yeah, I feel losing VVD & Ederson surely is a must now especially with both defs not looking as strong as last season & also frees up some funds especially for attack which I'd certainly need.

        My WC team above is fairly tempting though.

        1. iL PiStOlErO
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 5 days ago

          I agree. When I compare that wc team to old one it very different and so much better plus it can be dome all at once. Maybe now when I see that new team hit the button.There is a lot of points in that team.

  17. FOO FIGHTER
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 5 days ago

    See Soy is becoming flavour of the week, every week but not one bonus point as yet and you have to hope clean sheets get you the points otherwise 2 after 2 after 2 pointer. Not for me.

    1. Amey
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      @4.6
      Playing for Top 3 team with one of the best ×Gc record ?

      I'm sold !

  18. Coys96
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 5 days ago

    Pukki + Haller -> Wilson + Abraham a good move (for free)? Will captain either one

    1. Eleven Hag
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      Do IT

  19. Amey
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 5 days ago

    1 against my name 😮

    1. Eleven Hag
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      Celebrate with 1 HIT 🙂

      1. Amey
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 5 days ago

        Lol
        Didn't know one i took was for that 😀
        Salah Barnes Pukki >> Mane Vardy King (-4) 😉

        1. Eleven Hag
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 5 days ago

          Luks a gud move...can switch from king to westley, muapay etc based on fixtures

          1. Amey
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 5 days ago

            Yes
            Those two upcoming fixtures look awesome
            Actually looking for Raz King >> Kun Trossard after gw 10 now
            Will see how it goes
            Cheers bro 🙂

            1. Eleven Hag
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 5 days ago

              I am gonna do something like this as well...looking to move from Raz to kun...

              1. Amey
                • 8 Years
                7 years, 5 days ago

                Yeah
                He's a reliable © at Home fixtures. Averaged 20 for me last season for ©
                Probably what I'm missing this season. Have 4 © blanks already 😀

    2. Ógie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      Happy ffs birthday Amey. 🙂

      1. Amey
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 5 days ago

        Ha ha
        Thank you OGIE 🙂
        It's the best social community I've ever seen tbh !
        Love football & discussing football 😀

    3. FCSB
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 4 days ago

      feels like you've been around for longer mate

  20. Eleven Hag
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 5 days ago

    Will KDB finally drop tonight?

    1. badgerboy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      No.

    2. De Gea Van Dijk. 10
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      Get Pogba.

  21. Kellz86
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 5 days ago

    Did Pukki/Haller to Wilson/Vardy and pretty happy

    1. Neo-Viper
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      Very good transfers that!

    2. Coys96
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      I might do Pukki/Haller to Abraham/Wilson. Not sure I want to lose Pukki yet the, he has the ability to score against anyone, just don't think theres enough quality around him. Can see Abraham and Wilson both scoring braces this GW tbh

  22. ChickenTikkaMoSalah
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 5 days ago

    Son and Pukki to Maddison and Vardy for -4?

    1. Coys96
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      No

  23. Neo-Viper
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 5 days ago

    Sterling Pukki Greenwood to Madison Tammy and Jimenez for a hit.

    Should I or no?

    1. Eleven Hag
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      wilson has two gud fixtures..cud u fit him instead of jimenez

      1. Neo-Viper
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 5 days ago

        Already have him. ;))

        Owned him since day one.

    2. Amey
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      Will this add a benching dilemma to you every week ??

      1. Neo-Viper
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 5 days ago

        Yes it will

        1. Amey
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 5 days ago

          I'm not sure then tbh.
          Maybe something else you can do ??
          I'd definitely get Tammy IN though. Very high ownership & brilliant price tag + fixtures.
          Rank killing capabilities IMO

          1. Neo-Viper
            • 11 Years
            7 years, 5 days ago

            I can play 3-4-3 will Lundstram coming first from bench. So yaa can accommodate all of them.

  24. KNOW IT ALL
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 5 days ago

    what do you think about Aurier? and will he play?

    1. Pinturicchio10
      7 years, 5 days ago

      Lost interest in Spurs players, few too many woeful performances for my liking.

      1. KNOW IT ALL
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 5 days ago

        I got 5.1m to spend on defender, thought he might be the best one if spurs form improves. He does seem to get assists

        1. Dynamic Duos
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 5 days ago

          Boly is your man

          1. KNOW IT ALL
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 5 days ago

            great choice dynamic duos but I already got boly 😀

            1. Dynamic Duos
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 5 days ago

              Soyuncu or Tomori then?

              1. KNOW IT ALL
                • 7 Years
                7 years, 5 days ago

                wont score or assist enough for me

                1. Dynamic Duos
                  • 13 Years
                  7 years, 5 days ago

                  Pieters?

                  1. KNOW IT ALL
                    • 7 Years
                    7 years, 5 days ago

                    aurier more potential for points I reckon. I could easily be wrong 😀

                    1. Dynamic Duos
                      • 13 Years
                      7 years, 5 days ago

                      I'm looking to sell buy each to their own , surely Watford at home is a great fixture for him and they did lose 3-0 without him

        2. Pieterke30
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 5 days ago

          Just get Soyuncu/Guilbert/Lowton/Rico and saves some money to invest elsewhere

          1. KNOW IT ALL
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 5 days ago

            my midfield forward and keepers all good, just left wth 5.1 on defender

            1. Pinturicchio10
              7 years, 5 days ago

              Tarkowski?

              1. KNOW IT ALL
                • 7 Years
                7 years, 5 days ago

                I thought about that tarkowski, aurier more potential to get points I reckon. That's if he plays all the time.

                1. Pieterke30
                  • 10 Years
                  7 years, 5 days ago

                  Which he defo wont

            2. Pieterke30
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 5 days ago

              Still. Spend less on that def and keep the rest in the bank for later

        3. Pinturicchio10
          7 years, 5 days ago

          There's always a chance...

  25. Coys96
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 5 days ago

    Play Zinc or Cantwell

    1. Amey
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      Do you think Zinchenko will start ?

  26. Don Kloppeone
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 5 days ago

    Evening!

    With my current team on a -8, still debating whether to play the WC or save it a few weeks more for when more drastic changes needed.

    A) Current team:

    -8 0itb
    HEATON
    VVD, Soy, Rico
    Mané, KDB, Mount, STERLING
    VARDY, Abraham, Wilson
    (BUTTON) (Lunds, CANTWELL, KELLY)

    B) Potential WC team:

    0.7itb
    POPE
    TAA, Soy, TOMORI
    Mané, KDB, Mount, MADDISON
    KUN, Abraham, Wilson
    (MCGOVERN) (Rico, Lunds, DENDO)

    So far the consensus has been no need to ‘waste’ the WC now but looking at what I could have I’m not sure!!

    Appreciate your views, oh wise ones!

    1. Amey
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      I'd use the Wild monkey
      Not sure wise or not though 😉

      1. Don Kloppeone
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 5 days ago

        Lol. It’s a tough one cos it involves a crystal ball re. when I might need the WC in the future!

  27. Coys96
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 5 days ago

    1. Pukki + Haller to Abraham + Wilson
    2. Haller + Zinchenko to Wilson + Rico
    3. All for -4

    Would cap Abraham or Wilson

  28. De Gea Van Dijk. 10
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 5 days ago

    Always neglect my team on IB.

    Pukki -0.2 yet.

  29. Dynamic Duos
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 5 days ago

    A,B or C?

    A) Salah to Sterling
    B) Son to KDB
    C) Aurier to Boly

    1. KNOW IT ALL
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      b c a

    2. Pinturicchio10
      7 years, 5 days ago

      B

  30. Eat my goal!
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 5 days ago

    Cheap defence is going to hurt soon

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      Cheap attack will too.

    2. Dynamic Duos
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 5 days ago

      TAA Soyuncu Tomori Boly fodder should be enough, I know TAA isn't cheap

    3. The Overthinker
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 days ago

      Expensive def did what in 8 gw?