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Can we trust Spurs’ FPL defenders with appealing fixtures this season?

26 August 2020 1083 comments
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Fantasy Premier League managers are considering Spurs defenders ahead of the new season… but can they be trusted? That’s what I am here to find out.

When the 2020/21 fixtures were released there was a sudden spike in managers interested in the Spurs backline. These sorts of options have not been particularly popular in recent seasons, but some of them may well have come into the new campaign at just the right prices.

With a similar group of players to Jose Mourinho’s squad, Spurs kept 13 clean sheets in 2018/19, conceding 38 goals, the fifth-best in the league.  

Before that, they finished fourth overall for clean sheets and letting in just 36 goals in 2017/18.

And few managers will forget the 2016/17 campaign when Spurs ended up joint-top for clean sheets with Manchester United (17) as they let in only 26 goals across the season.

If they can rediscover this sort of form with their appealing fixtures at the start of 2020/21, we could find some exciting value options in defence.

But the question is… can they deliver on that kind schedule? To find out, I looked at some of the underlying numbers from last season.

As this article uses Opta data, only those with a valid Fantasy Football Scout subscription can access it in full.

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  1. ChickenTikkaMoSalah
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 17 hours ago

    Very happy with my team now:

    McCarthy
    TAA,Dier,Saiss,KWP
    Salah,Auba,ASM,Armstrong
    Werner,Mitrovic

    Fabri, Ferguson, Davis, Fernandes

    Fernandes can slot in after gw1 blank

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    1. ChickenTikkaMoSalah
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 17 hours ago

      Could also do Dier to a 4.5 and then upgrade Ferguson to a 4.5

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    2. Scratch
      • 17 Years
      6 years, 17 hours ago

      Looks okay but it also looks like you have 3 or 4 million itb

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      1. ChickenTikkaMoSalah
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 17 hours ago

        Probably due to Bruno on the bench. GW2 midfield will be Salah Auba Bruno ASM/Armstrong

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        1. Scratch
          • 17 Years
          6 years, 17 hours ago

          Makes sense. I'm of the mind to not bench any premium initially and sell Auba/Mane/whoever after 1 or 2 for Bruno / City mid

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          1. Simon69
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 17 hours ago

            I'd want that juicy United Palace fixture in GW2 though

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        2. Simon69
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 17 hours ago

          Looks great - Plenty will be scrambling to get Bruno in with no means to do so.

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          1. ChickenTikkaMoSalah
            • 11 Years
            6 years, 17 hours ago

            yeah that’s my thinking. Palace game is perfect for Bruno, and he’s very well priced this season. Current template means most players won’t be able to get in Bruno for the second gw unless they get a hit or use wc

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            1. Simon69
              • 14 Years
              6 years, 17 hours ago

              That's it. I'm trying to figure it out myself atm!

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    3. Visionaries
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 8 hours ago

      Haha, is this it, seriously?
      ok...bravo

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  2. Leao ball
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 17 hours ago

    I just came back from work and it seems like you guys havent found someone to replace Ferguson yet

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    1. Gianluca Busio's Hair …
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      6 years, 17 hours ago

      sorry, working on it.

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    2. cravencottage
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      6 years, 17 hours ago

      Mitchell?

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      1. FPL Bond @ Twitter
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 17 hours ago

        Mitchell which team?

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        1. The FPL Units
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          6 years, 17 hours ago

          Crystal Palace

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  3. Eleven Hag
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 17 hours ago

    Which 2 would you prefer?

    A. Werner
    B. Ings
    C. Son

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    1. Soto Ayam
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 17 hours ago

      Ab

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    2. Canary_Kid
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 17 hours ago

      AC

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    3. One Man
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 17 hours ago

      A & C

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  4. FCSB
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 17 hours ago

    Will Messi be essential in our teams?

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    1. I Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 17 hours ago

      Yes.

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    2. Canary_Kid
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 17 hours ago

      I'd assume he'd be immune to Pep roulette so I'd say yes

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      1. Niho992
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 17 hours ago

        He is 33. He will be rotated.

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        1. Canary_Kid
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 16 hours ago

          He's 33 but he played more than 75 minutes per game last year and had 30+ goals and 25+ assists. Don't think he'll be rotated nearly as much as we've seen Sterling or Mahrez been in the past

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          1. Niho992
            • 8 Years
            6 years, 16 hours ago

            In Barca yes where he was coach and player.

            It s going to be much different in City

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        2. I Member
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 15 hours ago

          Nah. He'll play almost every game. Rested in the Carabao and FA Cup.

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    3. cravencottage
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      6 years, 17 hours ago

      Of course

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      1. Andy_Social
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 16 hours ago

        No 'of course' about it. If FPL Towers are smart, they'll price him just out of reach of good FPL players, leaving the knee-jerkers to buy him and destroy their team balance.

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        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 17 Years
          6 years, 15 hours ago

          What price would be the "sweet spot" where he's borderline in that case?

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          1. Andy_Social
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 15 hours ago

            In my opinion, possibly 15m.
            If he's priced, as some suggest, around 13m, every man and his dog will own and captain him, for an EO of 200%. It would spoil the game. At 16m the knee-jerkers and casuals will have him along with a squad of 4.5s. But at 15m maybe 25% of the better players will try to build a half-decent squad around him, with the majority taking a calculated risk in avoiding him.

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            1. TorresMagic™
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 17 Years
              6 years, 15 hours ago

              What % at 14m which would equal the max a player has been in FPL?
              Wouldn't that be a better price? Maybe add 0.5 to be annoying?
              Also, he would miss GW1 so it's at less 1 transfer in most cases as few would probably bench in GW1.

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              1. Andy_Social
                • 14 Years
                6 years, 15 hours ago

                He shouldn't be equal to the previous max as he's better than any previous players. 14.5 - yeah, that could be the spot.

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                1. I Member
                  • 11 Years
                  6 years, 15 hours ago

                  At 14.5 he's still definitely in for me.

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                2. TorresMagic™
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • Has Moderation Rights
                  • 17 Years
                  6 years, 15 hours ago

                  Fair enough, could argue his best has happened.
                  Scary to think his 2.5m better than anyone but if on penalties, he could be another Bruno.

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                  1. I Member
                    • 11 Years
                    6 years, 15 hours ago

                    He will be on penalties and the left footed free kicks and corners. It would not be surprising if he's the top goalscorer AND top assister in the league.

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        2. I Member
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 15 hours ago

          Will team balance be important? Messi in Guardiola's 100 goal a season City team is going to score 300+ points with ease.

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    4. Flair
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 15 hours ago

      Yep. 30+ goals, 20+ assists is a conservative estimate for what he will do.

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    5. FantasyHero
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 14 hours ago

      Yup. Prob will come in at 14-14.5M.
      Will not be rotated too much. Prob something like kdb 's rotattion last season.
      Will be the highest goal scorer and assister in the league.

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  5. Canary_Kid
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 17 hours ago

    Will Vinagre be nailed if Doherty's move to Spurs goes through?

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    1. Niho992
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 17 hours ago

      Vinagre is LB.

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      1. Canary_Kid
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 16 hours ago

        Hm, yeah. Who else do they have to take that spot? A lot of full backs can play both sides so I wouldn't be surprised to see Jonny or Vinagre swap over to RB.

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        1. Niho992
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 16 hours ago

          Jonny is out for 7-9 months.

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          1. Canary_Kid
            • 9 Years
            6 years, 16 hours ago

            Wow didn't know it was that long, Wolves really will be depleted at that wing back position if Doherty leaves then.

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  6. Eleven Hag
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 17 hours ago

    A) Traore + 4.5 (Saliba)
    B) Maxi + 5.5 (Tierny)

    A or B?

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  7. Niho992
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 17 hours ago

    Doherty wont be good assets next season if he join Spurs

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    1. Eleven Hag
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 17 hours ago

      Why do you think so? I just got him in as my only spurs player

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      1. Niho992
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 16 hours ago

        Because Tottenham play with 4 at the back usually

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    2. Tony Moon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 17 Years
      6 years, 17 hours ago

      Depends if they play Mourinho's lopsided back four- instead of Aurier having a licence to get forward, it could be Doherty on the other side, with the RB staying more defensive. Difficult to know!

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      1. UnitedFan
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 16 hours ago

        Doherty is the RB. No need to change which side attacks.

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        1. Tony Moon
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 17 Years
          6 years, 16 hours ago

          Very true! 🙂

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    3. Canary_Kid
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 17 hours ago

      I think he will be. Good fixtures and I think Mou will do well in his second season. Still a great player, Doherty

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  8. Davido989
    • 16 Years
    6 years, 17 hours ago

    Werner -> Martial on GW2 is an aggressive but potentially rewarding move.

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    1. Boxwoods
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 16 hours ago

      It’s true.

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    2. I Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 15 hours ago

      Werner has wba, CRY, SOU from GW3 though.

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  9. Eleven Hag
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 16 hours ago

    Why no love for Traore or Jota at 6.5 as a 4th midfielder? Jota especially was in cracking form before the lockdown

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    1. Niho992
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 16 hours ago

      1st one almost never score

      2nd one have competition now

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      1. Eleven Hag
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 16 hours ago

        Haha ok, reckon I will give it a pass too

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    2. Dthinger
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 14 hours ago

      I don’t think I’m seeing teams with any miss in that price bracket.

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  10. Eleven Hag
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 16 hours ago

    Best midfielder upto 7.0 from GW2 onwards? (Currently on Grealish)

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    1. FantasyHero
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 14 hours ago

      Siggy?

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  11. seewhyaxe
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 16 hours ago

    there goes the shrewd alonso pick. 🙁

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    1. cravencottage
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      6 years, 15 hours ago

      Why> I must have missed it

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      1. seewhyaxe
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 15 hours ago

        thought they signed Ben Chilwell?

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        1. Andy_Social
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 15 hours ago

          They did - you're right.

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          1. FantasyHero
            • 10 Years
            6 years, 14 hours ago

            Isn't he injured tho

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  12. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 16 hours ago

    Really not a big fan of some of the purported transfers making the rounds. Doherty to Spurs would ruin a good thing I think, not to mention take Aurier out of the equation who has the potential to be a fantastic FPL asset this season. Messi to Manchester City would destroy the game, and I hate Manchester City anyway so really don't want that to happen.

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  13. Andy_Social
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 16 hours ago

    Just woke up, late to the party as usual. This article on Spurs' defence raving about Aurier - (a) Spuds are looking to get rid, and (b) Doherty appears to be on the way.

    Doherty is a tad too expensive for me, but possibly is a boost to Kane. It should put Davies up to the top of the agenda.

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    1. Flair
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 15 hours ago

      Why's that?

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  14. cravencottage
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    6 years, 16 hours ago

    How would you rank the these Man U players:

    A) Rashford
    B) Greenwood
    C) Bruno
    D) Martial

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    1. Andy_Social
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 15 hours ago

      For me, Rashford lost his edge a little bit towards the end of the season, so I'd put him currently 4th. If you're talking rank in terms of final points total, Bruno is your man, but if you are thinking in terms of value for money, it's Greenwood first for me, then Bruno, Martial and Rashford.

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    2. JURGENAUT
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 15 hours ago

      Bruno
      Martial
      Rashford
      Greenwood

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    3. kawaiii
      • 16 Years
      6 years, 15 hours ago

      Bruno
      Martial
      Rash
      Greenwood

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    4. Pukki Party
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 14 hours ago

      Points:
      C
      A
      D
      B
      Value:
      B
      D
      A
      C

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  15. davies
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 15 hours ago

    Thoughts on the AMN + Vinagre double up for 9.5?

    (If/when Doherty leaves...)

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    1. Albrightondknight
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 15 hours ago

      If Doherty leaves both are great value picks.

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    2. FPL Bond @ Twitter
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 15 hours ago

      Is Doherty leaving? Any news?

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      1. Albrightondknight
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 15 hours ago

        Possible to Spurs

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        1. Albrightondknight
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 15 hours ago

          Same side as Aurier I think and there were already rumours that Aurier was leaving so could make sense.

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  16. kawaiii
    • 16 Years
    6 years, 15 hours ago

    Genuine question.

    Salah/Armstrong vs Fernandez/Ings ?

    Was thinking, how many times will I captain Salah as well ?
    Auba, KDB, Bruno, Werner, Son all have fixtures to captain them.

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    1. Tony Moon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 17 Years
      6 years, 15 hours ago

      Latter for me, two potential big hitters.

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    2. Hubert
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 14 hours ago

      Is this a fair comparison? Fernandez and Ings cost 1.5m more...

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      1. kawaiii
        • 16 Years
        6 years, 14 hours ago

        Sorry, I meant Son/Ings vs Armstrong/ Salah

        So it is :

        ASM Auba Bruno Son
        Ings Mitrovic Werner

        Vs

        ASM Auba Bruno Salah Armstrong
        Mitrovic Werner

        So I feel that Son/ Ings will outscore Salah/Armstrong
        Auba will become KDB week 3.

        The question is the lack of Salah captain option.
        But looking at the fixtures I think there are plenty of outside outside Salah.

        Given this I was questioning why have Salah ? Is it crazy ?

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  17. Scratch
    • 17 Years
    6 years, 15 hours ago

    Rodrigo to Leeds! What price though?

    £6m or under straight in my team.
    £6.5m maybe but will probably try it, Leeds create an awful lot of chances the only drawback being Bamford on those.
    £7m + wait and see

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    1. I Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 15 hours ago

      6.5 I reckon.

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    2. Andy_Social
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 15 hours ago

      From what I've read, he's another non-scoring striker to complement Bamford. I'd expect he'll come in at 6.0, not more than Mitrovic who has far better form.

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      1. Scratch
        • 17 Years
        6 years, 15 hours ago

        If we retain Bamford as the CF each week there's no chance of staying up. The man can barely finish his dinner at the second time of asking.

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        1. Tony Moon
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 17 Years
          6 years, 15 hours ago

          Haha

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  18. I Member
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 15 hours ago

    Messi to City is a bit annoying from an FPL perspective but as a football fan I can't wait to see the GOAT in the Premier League.

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    1. FantasyHero
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 13 hours ago

      Samee!!

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  19. Threat Level Midnight
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 15 hours ago

    Really trying not to have TAA, but feels like suicide. Tell me this is okay. Lol

    McCarthy
    Egan/Vinagre/KWP/Doherty
    Mane/Auba/Son/Soucek
    Kane/Mitro

    Ryan/Lamptey/Brewster/Greenwood

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      6 years, 15 hours ago

      See if he plays ve Arsenal.

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      1. Dthinger
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 14 hours ago

        Why would that matter?

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        1. Andy_Social
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 14 hours ago

          Would show he's over his injury.

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    2. Albrightondknight
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 15 hours ago

      It’s a nice team especially with Greenwood to come in.
      Mane over Salah is a diff that is certainly worth considering but I can’t go without TAA, if he does what he can do you are probably in catch up mode

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  20. Offside
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 15 hours ago

    Ryan
    Aurier, TAA, Justin, Vinagre
    Salah, Auba, Son, DeBrun
    Mitrovic, Austin

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    1. Albrightondknight
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 15 hours ago

      Considering the strong mid 4 the rest still looks pretty decent. Vinagre no longer an option?
      And Aurier might move.

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      1. FPL Bond @ Twitter
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 15 hours ago

        Vinagre and AMN will be rotated now. And Ghoulam may also join..

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        1. Pukki Blinders
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 14 hours ago

          AMN may play on the right if Doherty goes though

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    2. Bushwhacker
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 15 hours ago

      Don’t like that backline at all.

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    3. Tony Moon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 17 Years
      6 years, 15 hours ago

      get rid of Austin too.

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  21. Albrightondknight
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 15 hours ago

    Going to stick to the 451 this year and see how it goes. Obviously not what I will start with and a complete fodder bench won’t work but any thoughts on something like this.

    Ryan

    TAA VVD Doherty Laporte

    Salah Sterling Greenwood Foden ASM

    Werner

    Fodder bench

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    1. Tony Moon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 17 Years
      6 years, 15 hours ago

      Downside for me would be 2x 4.5 forwards on bench. Neither will play and if Werner is rotated, you have a big gap. Plus neither could be Brewster (if loaned out), as you have 3 Liverpool already. I'd prefer to downgrade VVD and Laporte (he could be rotated) and get a second playing forward.

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      1. Albrightondknight
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 15 hours ago

        Cheers. I am not total against a 352. Of those 2 Laporte would the one to go, but for 6.0 you are getting a player who got about 180 in his only full season. Screams value to me.
        I am probably prepared to run the risk of 10 players starting, this is one thing that makes Jiménez a better option in this formation but then I would want Pulisic.

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  22. Albrightondknight
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 15 hours ago

    The decision of go for Ryan or McCarthy?
    Ryan looks the option to set and forget based on history of the last 2-3 seasons. McCarthy definitely has better fixtures to start but I think I will go Ryan and the set and forget option.
    Any good reason to change to McCarthy. Will White start for Brighton and if so does he make them better?

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    1. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 15 hours ago

      Both are not reliable options tbh, they are unlikely to keep many CSs because of the way they play. Investing extra 0.5 in that position will likely result in much more points.

      If going for one of them, McCarthy will probably be better as I feel Ryan save points went down last year.

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      1. Flair
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 14 hours ago

        Extra .5 for who?

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        1. Holmes
          • 12 Years
          6 years, 14 hours ago

          Ramsdale, Guaita, Dubravka

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          1. L S P
            • 11 Years
            6 years, 14 hours ago

            I’d say that .5 is better ITB if you can’t spend it than Ryan->Dubravka (the only 5.0 that I find tempting)

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            1. Holmes
              • 12 Years
              6 years, 14 hours ago

              Personal preference I guess, I would even pay 1.5 extra to avoid consistent supply of 1-2pts which is what Ryan/McCarthy are capable of.

              For me that position is more of a rank changer than getting Werner over Martial or Antonio over Mitrovic or Rashford over Son with that 0.5

              I was a Ryan owner for almost 25 or so GWs and it was almost same as playing with 10 men.

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              1. L S P
                • 11 Years
                6 years, 14 hours ago

                I’d just argue that none of CPL, NEW, BRI or SOU should be considered defensive rocks so why spend .5 more for maybe 8pts gain (the difference last year between Ryan and Dubravka).

                Of course maybe this year will be different but right now I’m looking for whatever .5 I can find to help afford the better attacking players I want to bring in early in the season.

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                1. Holmes
                  • 12 Years
                  6 years, 14 hours ago

                  If you think only 8-10pts gain will be made, then it's fine to not spend extra 0.5

                  In my opinion, Palace and Newcastle are still pretty good home teams. Correct me if I'm wrong but Newcastle was 4-5th in terms of CS kept at home, Palace was also close. Over a period of 10-12 GWs, I expect them to outscore likes of Ryan by at least 20-30pts.

                  Even if we ignore Palace/Newcastle for a moment, I'm surprised not many are looking at Ramsdale for "long term" as they say. I guess budget is pretty tight...

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                  1. L S P
                    • 11 Years
                    6 years, 13 hours ago

                    Ramsdale is intriguing but I think most, including me, feel that Henderson was the glue of that defense.

                    I do think Dubravka *could* hit around 160pts, but at this point, I don’t see NEW making major gains from last season.

                    I do think budget IS the prevailing factor in all this tho.

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      2. Pukki Blinders
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 14 hours ago

        Ryan averaged a higher score than most 5.0s last season, wouldn't say that extra 0.5 can get you much better...

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        1. Holmes
          • 12 Years
          6 years, 14 hours ago

          All those points was scored in first 8 GWs, after that he kept something like 1 CS over next 15 and probably scored more than 2pts in 2-3 games at best.

          It's not like I'm going to stop anyone from picking him, go ahead and enjoy! 😀

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        2. Moderately content penguin
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 14 hours ago

          You sure about that?

          On ppg the only starting 5.0s behind him are Ramsdale and Fab.

          Ditto Holmes comment

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    2. Moderately content penguin
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 14 hours ago

      McCarthy better pick for me

      Southampton finished last season way better than they started it defensively - not simply a post restart phenomenon. They are considerably better than Brighton all round. One will be likely top ten material and the other a relegation dodger.

      Interesting to see what happens to White. Very much doubt Potter will be reliable with him and also dubious that he would perform in the sane way when playing in a Potter and Bielsa side.

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  23. Lucky Z
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 14 hours ago

    Guys I believe already discussed, what about Ferguson + Mitchell double up as 4th and 5th defender to cover each other for total 8.0£?

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    1. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 14 hours ago

      They don't play in same position

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    2. Dthinger
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 14 hours ago

      And Ferguson is injured

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  24. Flair
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 14 hours ago

    If James Rodriguez joins DCL could become a fantastic option. Great fixtures, and ideally Everton's lineup looks like this:

    DCL
    Richarlison - Rodriguez - Iwobi (lol)
    Gomes/Sigurrdson - Allan

    That's some quality service!

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    1. Moderately content penguin
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 14 hours ago

      His XG figures will be otherworldly and yes he might just match Ayew returns next time - might

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      1. Flair
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 14 hours ago

        Lmao

        13 goals in this Everton side is pretty decent though, who knows what he can do when Rodriguez starts providing him the throughballs

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    2. Pukki Blinders
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 13 hours ago

      Did not score a single goal or assist since the restart. Provided me with plenty of headaches last season

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      1. Flair
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 13 hours ago

        When Everton were on the beach. Was excellent before the restart

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    3. The 12th Man
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 13 hours ago

      I think If bought Rodriguez will be on the right and Ancelotti usually likes to play 4-4-2.

      ————-———-DCL
      Richarlison—Doucoure—Rodriguez
      Gomes —- Allan
      Or

      —————Richarlison—-DCL
      Bernard/Iwobi- Doucoure- Allan- Rodriguez

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      1. The 12th Man
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 13 hours ago

        Gordon could even be given a chance in the 4-4-2 instead of Bernard or Iwobi.

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  25. Bruno Commando
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 14 hours ago

    Don't see a lot of love for Ings here. What am I missing because this is my current team..

    McCarthy // Nyland
    TAA Doherty Justin Saliba // Branthwaite
    Salah Auba Son Soucek // Stephens
    Werner Ings // Brewster

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    1. Pukki Party
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 14 hours ago

      I prefer Jimenez personally, but they will score equally. Are you going Doherty if he moves to Spurs?

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      1. Andy_Social
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 14 hours ago

        He won't be as attacking in a Mou back 4

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        1. Pukki Party
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 14 hours ago

          That's why i'm asking. I'm not expecting more clean sheets for Spurs compared to Wolves either.

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          1. Andy_Social
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 14 hours ago

            My feeling is it makes Ben Davies at 5m more interesting rather than Doh. I'm contemplating Davies and Vinagre (until a LB is purchased) in my back line.

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            1. Pukki Party
              • 9 Years
              6 years, 13 hours ago

              Davies is a good shout, Sessegnon played LM last friendly.

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    2. Pukki Blinders
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 14 hours ago

      dangerous bench there

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    3. Moderately content penguin
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 14 hours ago

      Just the extra season of consistency sways it for me. And Jim will maintain GI whereas Southampton may share more next time perhaps

      Yet to redraw my initial side but contemplating both to begin with

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      1. Andy_Social
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 14 hours ago

        I'm concerned at the impact the loss of Doherty will have on supply to Jimenez.

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  26. LloristheHounds
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 14 hours ago

    A) vardy & vinagre

    Or

    B) ings & doherty

    ??

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  27. Flair
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 14 hours ago

    The more I think about Doherty to Spurs the less likely I am to get him. Decent player but the Wolves' tactics make him look better than he is. Not a great crosser but his excellence is in off the ball movement however how effective will that be in a back 4? In a way it could be useful for Wolves - low fee aside - as his effectiveness was clearly diminished when Traore played at RW. Even with the Spurs asymmetric system his numbers will surely decrease and it's unlikely he'll be worth it for 6.

    I still want at least 3 players from both teams defenses, Dier/Doherty/AMN/Wolves RWB/Vinagre all under consideration. Both defenses will be elite this year.

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    1. Andy_Social
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 14 hours ago

      I'm thinking of the implications of Doherty at Spurs. He'll be less attacking, making 6m for a Mou defender too much. However, Aurier's problem is he can't defend, so Spurs ought to be stronger defensively. This makes me interested in Davies at 5m. With Wolves' defence weakened and Spurs' strengthened, he comes into play for me. Dier is same price, so is the equation is Dier - nailed, baps v Davies potential occasional assists.

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      1. Andy_Social
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 14 hours ago

        Actually, thinking it through further, I don't think Mou would buy Doh for his attacking qualities and stop him using them. More likely is a lop-sided set-up where Doh is encouraged to play high with a DM dropping into his space, while on the left flank Son dominates that side with Davies staying further back.

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        1. Flair
          • 6 Years
          6 years, 14 hours ago

          Yes, that tactical system looks spot on. Hojbjerg as the right sided DM in a 4-2-3-1 to cover Doherty's advances forward sounds like the strategy that will be employed.

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      2. Moderately content penguin
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 14 hours ago

        Agreed in general terms

        But interesting how much latitude to attack Aurier had under Mou. Keeping a weather eye on how this develops

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    2. Bobby Crush
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 14 hours ago

      Yes, I will ditch Doherty if this move goes through.

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    3. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 14 hours ago

      Aurier was pretty advance, wasn't he? 6m for a Spurs defender could be too much but I guess his attacking returns won't drop much, may even improve.

      Wonder how this will impact Traore's gametime, would be nice if he gets nailed again.

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      1. Andy_Social
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 14 hours ago

        That's possible. Shame pre-season is so truncated.

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      2. Moderately content penguin
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 14 hours ago

        Thinking very much the same - but cautious about Doh value now on week 1 budget. 5.5 yes 6.0 probably not

        Traore was in my little list anyway and this could make him more interesting. Also Doherty consistently crushed Jonny and he was more than just the creation of the Wolves system.

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      3. Holmes
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 13 hours ago

        https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTyILhxk6fmHoQubWZHEUq1sWmCs_VARfwoZA&usqp=CAU

        Thats how it will probably look

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        1. Flair
          • 6 Years
          6 years, 13 hours ago

          Wow, nice stuff. Dier RCB, Winks left DM, Hojbjerg right DM, Ndombele/Alli interchangeable. Makes more sense now why Mourinho is going for him, this system essentially becomes the 3-4-3 in attack, a lot like Wolves. Food for thought...

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          1. Andy_Social
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 13 hours ago

            It is. I think rather than starting with a Spuds defender, I'll watch GW1 carefully. Doh could be a great asset. If they go Back 4 it could be Davies; a
            Back 3 would make Davies rotatable and no improvement on Dier who would be more nailed so long as he doesn't screw up.

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            1. Flair
              • 6 Years
              6 years, 13 hours ago

              Spurs will play a back 4 of Davies-Dier-Alderweireld-Doherty in a 4-2-3-1 when defending, both Davies and Dier are nailed. This is a diagram of how the system will look in attack, a 3-4-3 with the left back tucking in and the right back moving forward.

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              1. Andy_Social
                • 14 Years
                6 years, 13 hours ago

                Yeah, cheers. I'll take an interest in analysis of transitions in their pre-seasons.

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  28. HurriKane
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 14 hours ago

    Does Doherty move to Spurs make Vinagre more nailed?

    (Till Jonny returns)

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    1. HurriKane
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 13 hours ago

      Im guessing AMN being primarily a RB will slot straight in as Doherty replacement.

      Which makes Vinagre more secure with no competition

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    2. Lazaretti
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 13 hours ago

      Doherty is rightback, Jonny and Vinagre are leftbacks so Imo it doesn't matter. Not sure who is backup for Doherty, if you don't count Traore who has played as right wingback too.

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      1. HurriKane
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 13 hours ago

        You missed the point where i mentioned till jonny back who is out for long spell with ACL injury

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    3. Flair
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 13 hours ago

      They're very likely to sign a RWB replacement - Correira, Jesus Corona touted - so no.

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      1. HurriKane
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 13 hours ago

        wolves already signing AMN to replace Doherty

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        1. Andy_Social
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 13 hours ago

          You'd think he'd be competing with Traore for a starting spot. But what are his defensive qualities like?

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        2. Flair
          • 6 Years
          6 years, 13 hours ago

          Disagree, AMN is not going to replace Doherty. AMN is a utility player who can cover in multiple positions but prefers to play in midfield, he may fill in at wingback but will not start there consistently, Wolves will sign a replacement.

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    4. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 13 hours ago

      Yes imo

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    5. Pukki Blinders
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 13 hours ago

      If they don't sign anyone then Vinagre is coming straight into my team

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      1. Andy_Social
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 13 hours ago

        Yeh, he's still in my squad until that happens, although I might abandon Wolves' defence if Doherty's replacement isn't impressive.

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        1. Pukki Blinders
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 13 hours ago

          Doherty was more of an asset in offence than defence for Wolves though wasn't he.. don't think it will impact their CSs too much regardless

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          1. Andy_Social
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 13 hours ago

            Probably true. Vinny's been in my squad since Day One, but I'm beginning to wobble.

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  29. Chelsea91
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 13 hours ago

    Mc Carthy
    Taa,Robbo,Chilwell
    Auba,Traore,JWP,ASM,Salah
    Mitro,Martial,Davies

    Team looking good? 0itb

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    1. Chelsea91
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 13 hours ago

      Nyland*
      Doherty,Ferguson*

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    2. The Knights Template
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 13 hours ago

      Not really

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      1. Chelsea91
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 13 hours ago

        Mc Carthy
        Taa,Vvd,Chilwell,Davies
        Son,McCarthy,JWP,ASM,Salah
        Mitro,Martial,Jimenez

        How was this?

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        1. The Knights Template
          • 12 Years
          6 years, 12 hours ago

          Better

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    3. Pukki Blinders
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 13 hours ago

      Chilwell? Chelsea have 2 left backs on the bench just waiting for rotation there. Also not much variety in price points in mid and forward... might make transfers a headache for you

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      1. Chelsea91
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 13 hours ago

        Mc Carthy
        Taa,Vvd,Chilwell,Davies
        Son,McCarthy,JWP,ASM,Salah
        Mitro,Martial,Jimenez

        How was this?

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        1. Pukki Blinders
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 13 hours ago

          I would upgrade one of JWP/ASM and downgrade one of your defenders

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          1. Chelsea91
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 13 hours ago

            upgrade to whom?

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      2. Andy_Social
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 13 hours ago

        Alonso and Emerson? Both busted flushes. Chilwell should be nailed there.

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        1. Chelsea91
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 13 hours ago

          think Chilwell will first priority

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  30. Nightrain_
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 13 hours ago

    Please advise on this 3-4-3 draft :

    Lloris
    TAA / Vinagre / Doherty / (Saliba - Mitchell)
    Auba / Son / Pereira / Soucek / (Bissouma)
    Jimenez / Ings / Werner

    GW2 : Ings > Martial
    GW3 : Auba > KDB / Sterling
    with probably wildcard on GW5 after first IB or GW9

    if Vinagre is not nailed, maybe switch to Justin and play Saliba in GW1

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    1. Netley Lucas
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 13 hours ago

      I think this needs a cheap striker spot and a 2nd premium mid spot with immediate effect. Keep it simple for now, no need to take too many risks from the get-go.

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