Scout Picks
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Chelsea, Liverpool and Everton are the key teams for the Gameweek 3 Scout Picks XI.

Each of these clubs has provided two players to the latest selection, chosen from the Scout Squad submissions made by David, Neale, Tom and Andy.

It’s a 4-4-2 formation this time around, coming in at £82.9m, £0.1m inside our budget.

GOALKEEPER

Emi Martínez (£4.5m) was the most popular budget goalkeeper on our Scout Squad panel this week, as Aston Villa visit Fulham. The former Arsenal man is fully capable of producing points from a range of different avenues. Only Tim Krul made more saves than him during Project Restart, while Villa were inside the division’s top five for fewest big chances conceded during that period (despite playing more matches). Dean Smith’s men got off to the perfect start this time around, keeping a clean sheet in their 1-0 win over Sheffield United.

DEFENDERS

There was plenty of support for Liverpool defence ahead of Arsenal’s trip to Anfield and, due to budgetary reasons, we have selected Andrew Robertson (£7.0m). So far this season, the left-back has created more big chances than Trent Alexander-Arnold, and two more shots in the box than him. The Gunners have also conceded more chances from their right flank than their left during the first two matches of the season.

Lucas Digne (£6.1m) could be in for returns at both ends of the pitch against Crystal Palace. The Eagles were the lowest scorers in home matches last season while Everton are currently in the Premier League’s top five for expected goals conceded (xGC). Meanwhile, Digne was heavily involved in the 5-2 win over West Bromwich Albion and unfortunate not to come away with attacking returns. No Everton player was the target of more passes in the final third for that match and he hit the crossbar with a second-half direct free-kick.

It might be another week before Chelsea start becoming more reliable for clean sheets, as Eduoard Mendy has only just arrived. However, Reece James (£5.1m) is yet another defensive asset capable of drawing on several different avenues for points. Even if the Blues can’t keep out West Bromwich Albion on Saturday, the versatile full-back already has a goal and assist to his name this season and, as we’ll explain in more detail shortly, the Baggies’ defence has been poor so far this season.

Romain Saïss (£5.1m) remains one of the most nailed-on Wolves defenders ahead of a trip to West Ham. Despite conceding three goals to Manchester City on Monday night, Nuno Espirito Santo’s backline remains the most productive since Gameweek 25 of last season, recording a league-high 10 clean sheets in that time. Meanwhile, Saïss has more shots in the box than any Wolves defender so far this season.

MIDFIELDERS

Mohamed Salah (£12.1m) looks a sure inclusion for Gameweek 3 as Arsenal visit Anfield. The penalty-taking Egyptian netted a hat-trick in his last home match and is already joint-top of the league for shots in the box and goal attempts on target so far this term. Salah scored twice the last time the Gunners came to Liverpool as he registered 19 of last season’s 29 attacking returns (65.5%) in home matches.

One match into the season and Kevin De Bruyne (£11.6m) already looks like a must-own asset. Freed from defensive duties in midfield, the Belgian excelled in a number 10 role at Wolves on Monday night shooting straight into the division’s top 10 for key passes and shots on target, despite playing fewer matches than most. 

Son Heung-min (£9.0m) was the man of the moment as Spurs thrashed Southampton 5-2 in Gameweek 2. After two matches this season, no player has registered more shots on target than the South Korean, who has also been afforded the joint-most big chances in the division during that period.

Daniel Podence (£5.6m) has the potential to offer decent value as Wolves travel to West Ham on Sunday evening. He has assisted in both outings so far this season and, even if competition for the front-three might increase soon, the Portuguese winger has done enough to start again on merit – and Nuno Espirito Santo has already hinted that new right-back Nelson Semedo will take some time to settle at Wolves. Thus far, only one Premier League player has fashioned more big chances than Podence.

FORWARDS

A trip to West Bromwich Albion is the perfect match-up for Timo Werner (£9.5m), who is yet to find his first Premier League goal. While the Baggies have conceded the joint-most number of shots in the box over the first two matches, they have also given up two penalties. During that time, Werner has won two of his own, and may even get the chance to take one considering Jorginho missed a spot-kick against Liverpool and could lose his place in the team for Gameweek 3.

Dominic Calvert-Lewin (£7.3m) has recaptured the form he boasted when Carlo Ancelotti first arrived at Everton, scoring four goals in the first two matches of 2020/21. Crystal Palace should pose a sterner test than West Bromwich Albion did, but they have conceded four big chances so far this season – only five teams have given up more than that over the same period. If any Everton player is going to score at Selhurst Park, the fact that Calvert-Lewin is joint-top of the league for shots on target suggests it will be the mid-price forward.

Substitutes

Vicente Guaita (£5.0m) could be the man to frustrate owners of Everton assets in Gameweek 3. He is the early season-leader for saves (eight) and has the second-highest expected goals prevented (xG Prevented) score after the first two matches.

Jimmy Dunne (£4.0m) is the latest budget defender to emerge as a starting option. Injuries to James Tarkowski and Ben Mee have seen him thrust into the first-team picture alongside Kevin Long.

Only West Bromwich Albion have conceded more shots on target or chances from set plays than Fulham thus far. That could work out for Jack Grealish (£7.0m) who was unfortunate to blank against Sheffield United on Monday night.

Ollie Watkins (£6.0m) gets onto the Scout Picks bench for the same reasons. His pace and power is likely to cause Fulham all sorts of problems in Gameweek 3.

THE CAPTAIN

Who are the best captain options for FPL Gameweek 36+?

The Scout Picks captain is chosen using a four-way vote between our Scout Squad pundits.

Because the use of Fantasy Football Scout data is used so heavily in this process, the skipper we choose each Gameweek is known only to those with a valid Fantasy Football Scout subscription and revealed to the public only when the deadline has passed.

Here’s how we voted for Gameweek 3:

COMMUNITY CHAMPION

Each week, one of the Fantasy Football Scout community takes on the Scout Picks by pitting their chosen XI against ours.

The Community Member who beats our team by the biggest margin will win a £100 Amazon Voucher and a place in our Moderators and Contributors League for the following season.

AA33 was the first to vanquish the Scout Picks this year and may take some beating, winning by 96 points to 43, a whopping 53-point margin.

That result was the equaliser for the community champions, who are currently tied 1-1 with the FFS editorial team after the first two Gameweeks.

DAZZ takes on the Scout Picks for Gameweek 3, opting for a 3-5-2 line-up of Lloris; Doherty, C Taylor, K Long; De Bruyne (vc), Son, Mahrez (c), Havertz, Grealish; Werner, Jiménez.

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  1. adstomko
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 18 days ago

    Good to go or defence too weak?

    Too punty or G2G?

    Martinez
    Chilwell, Semedo, C.Taylor
    Salah, Sterling, Rodríguez, Barnes
    Jimenez, Ings, Wood
    (Steer, Justin, Lamptey, Anguissa)

    1. Rocky FPL
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      Chillwell and Semedo very risky.
      I would play Foden instead of Jrod and upgrade elsewhere.

    2. Dash444
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      Whilst Chilwell and Semedo may turn out to be great choices I think you may be a couple of weeks early for them to be your two main defensive choices.

  2. M2.0
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 18 days ago

    Did werner get mins in the cup?

  3. Rocky FPL
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 18 days ago

    Quick A/B
    A - Coady
    B - James
    (PS: already have Saiss)

    1. Scots Gooner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      James

    2. Konstaapeli
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      B

    3. Rocky FPL
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      That settles it then.

  4. Konstaapeli
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 18 days ago

    I have a feeling that next week will be all about getting United assets back in again 😆

    1. Rocky FPL
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      I have too, hence I am keeping Werner and Jimenez on WC. Easy switch to Martial. Price points and all that.

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      Mourinho will bus it.

    3. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      I agree. Thinking of including Greenwood in my WC team.

    4. nn11
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      Hamez to Greenwood or Werner to Martial are probably the ones on the card...

  5. Torres76
    • 16 Years
    6 years, 18 days ago

    Repost: sorry! Is this WC team GTG?

    Martinez
    TAA, Vinigrette, James
    Salah, KDB, Son, Rodriguez, Podence,
    Calvert-Lewin, Jimenez

    Myland, Mitchell, Douglas, Brewster

    1. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      Looks good. I have almost the same team. Considering Greenwood in place of Rodriguez though. I sense a bounce back!

      1. amtosh
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 18 days ago

        Saw rumours of Utd making a last ditch effort for sancho. Worth holding off on Greenwood imo given transfer window nearing the close.

      2. icanseethroughyou
        • 15 Years
        6 years, 18 days ago

        I’ve got Greenwood. Thinking the same. Ollie is bound to be making changes after last week.

  6. Pukkipartyy
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 18 days ago

    Bottomed

    Is this crazy or good?
    For (-4) hit.

    Martial + Hamez -> Werner + Foden.

    Allready have Bruno,DCL,Digne. Scared what Chelsea might do against WBA.

  7. damiang2233
    • 16 Years
    6 years, 18 days ago

    Best midfielder for 6.3m?

    1. Rocky FPL
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      Podence

    2. Konstaapeli
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      Podence. But find 0.2 for Foden.

      1. damiang2233
        • 16 Years
        6 years, 18 days ago

        Is Podence that good? Could be rotation no? What about Trossard?

        1. Konstaapeli
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 18 days ago

          Good team, good fixtures, passed the eye test.

          1. damiang2233
            • 16 Years
            6 years, 18 days ago

            Douglas costa could be on the way tho then rotational?

    3. Threat Level Midnight
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      Periera or Klich

  8. Mikha In A Tutu
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 18 days ago

    Best 5m midfielder guys?

    1. Long ago I drew a walrus
      • 16 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      Soucek at 4.9 tomorrow

    2. Rocky FPL
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      Soucek, get him tomorrow at 4.9

    3. Mikha In A Tutu
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      Thanks to both of you! Really helped out!

  9. Gentle_Turks
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 18 days ago

    Any wildcarders with JRodriguez now switching him to Foden?

    1. Torres76
      • 16 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      No chance. Rod is the centre of it all

      1. Zimo
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 18 days ago

        Even the universe? 😮

    2. Rocky FPL
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      I was always on Foden. DCL is enough Eveton for now.

    3. Konstaapeli
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      Nope. Upgraded Podence instead.

      1. Gentle_Turks
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 18 days ago

        Nice luxury to have. On a WC so could do the same but unfortunately would mean sacrifices elsewhere, eg: probably selling TAA.

        1. Konstaapeli
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 18 days ago

          I did TAA + Podence to Robbo + Foden

          1. Gentle_Turks
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            6 years, 18 days ago

            TAA to Robbo still leaves me 0.2 short. Would have to go down to VVD. Not sure Foden is worth that.

            1. Konstaapeli
              • 10 Years
              6 years, 18 days ago

              Yeah, I was annoyingly 0.1 short of just Podence to Foden.

              1. Gentle_Turks
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 8 Years
                6 years, 18 days ago

                Ouch, that hurts.

  10. Konstaapeli
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 18 days ago

    No change of Werner dropping, right?

    1. Long ago I drew a walrus
      • 16 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      Unfortunately that ship has sailed.

  11. JamTart
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 18 days ago

    Out of curiosity does anyone know Joe from Scoutcasts history or ID?

      1. JamTart
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 18 days ago

        Cheers

  12. icanseethroughyou
    • 15 Years
    6 years, 18 days ago

    McCarthy (Ryan)
    Digne, TAA, Justin (Holding, Egan)
    Aubameyang (C), ASM, Greenwood, Alli (Minamino)
    Werner (VC), Watkins, Richarlison

    Had an average start and looking to push on but still not tempted by WC yet. Thinking of taking a -4 for Auba & ASM to KDB & Podence.

    Is it worth the hit? I know it’s an obvious move but desperate for some points and already have a differential in Watkins.

    1. Dash444
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      Wow, you’ve ended up with a weird midfield. Unfortunately you definitely need a hit to change as suggested.

      1. icanseethroughyou
        • 15 Years
        6 years, 18 days ago

        Haha. Yep I’m out of practice, been a few years. Thanks. I was thinking I’m not far wrong with a decent defence and attack but poor midfield and you’ve confirmed it!
        Only thing is had a -4 last week as well to get Digne and Watkins so something has to give soon.

        Would you go with a further hit to get Foden in and put Salah in instead of KDB?

  13. rohan
    • 15 Years
    6 years, 18 days ago

    What would you change about this WC?

    Martinez

    TAA. Semedo. C.Taylor

    Klich. KDB (C). Foden. Salah

    Werner (vc). Jiminez. DCL

    Bench- Steer; Burke; Mitchell; Lamptey

    1. COLLIN QUANER
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      Nice team

  14. StayoutheSpiceZone
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 18 days ago

    Which WC team please:

    A)
    Martinez Steer
    Robbo Saiss Lamptey Mitchell Ferguson
    Salah Podence KDB Son Foden
    Richarlison Werner Davis

    B)
    Martinez Steer
    Ake Robbo TAA Lamptey Saiss
    Salah Foden KDB Burke Son
    Richarlison Adams Davis

    Thanks

    1. Rocky FPL
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      A) Mitchel, Ferguson, Podence, Werner
      B) TAA, Ake, Burke, Adams.

      1. StayoutheSpiceZone
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 18 days ago

        Ok thanks for the formatting. Which one?

        1. Rocky FPL
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 18 days ago

          A out of those

    2. Jake.l_8
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      A 100%

      1. StayoutheSpiceZone
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 18 days ago

        Cheers Jake

  15. HAMMERTIME107
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 18 days ago

    Please help, who to ship out for DCL and FODEN ????

    McCarthy
    Justin | Doherty | Coleman
    Son | Salah | Diangana | Auba
    Martial | Wilson | Werner
    .

    1. Rocky FPL
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      Auba and Wilson.

  16. ivantys
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 18 days ago

    The Jesus injury forced me to WC after using 2 free transfers.

    Guaita (4.0)
    Robbo Semedo Chilwell (Mitchell) (Dunne)
    Sterling (C) Foden Son Traore (Burke)
    Vardy Jimmy Ings

    Prefer Vardy over Werner for his GWs 4+5 (Don't really trust Chelsea yet as well plus I think Leicester would score a few against city)
    Semedo+Chilwell punts
    5.5 defenders there so easier to upgrade to TAA
    No Everton as I don't fancy them against Palace
    GW4 would be Son to Barnes/Hames/Havertz depending on form (Bye spurs players until Bale back)
    GW6 would be Vardy to 6.0 or 4.5 while upgrading a mf to Salah/Mane

  17. FF Dirtbag
    • 15 Years
    6 years, 18 days ago

    Hmmm Salah or KDB for captain...

    1. Rocky FPL
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      KDB

    2. nn11
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      KDB

    3. Jordan.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      salah

  18. Rocky FPL
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 18 days ago

    Any chance of Son rising?

    1. Zimo
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      Yes. In the morning. Good chance.

      1. Rocky FPL
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 18 days ago

        Lol thats Sun.

        1. Konstaapeli
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 18 days ago

          😆

    2. Jordan.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      92% on fpl stats your call

  19. PepSala
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 18 days ago

    I'm worried about not owning Justin for the next two fixtures after City. All my mini league rivals have him.

    Only way to fit him in on WC is to downgrade Salah to Sterling. Is it worth it?

    1. Rocky FPL
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      Nope.

    2. kevchenko
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      Definitely not.

      Worrying about James Justin in week 3 and 4 is cray.

    3. COLLIN QUANER
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      Forget about him

  20. Livinginapool
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 17 Years
    6 years, 18 days ago

    So, what are we all thinking about Reece James? I'm a little behind.

    Likely to hold down his spot? Looking like he'll get many attacking returns? I'm still not sold on Che defence, even with Mendy and Thiago coming in.

    1. Konstaapeli
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      Would love to know. Azpi lurking.

    2. COLLIN QUANER
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      Worth a punt for the next few weeks at least

      1. Livinginapool
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 17 Years
        6 years, 18 days ago

        Probably. I'm loathe to give myself an upcoming transfer though.

    3. Jordan.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      not sure that hes ahead of azpilicueta ,time will tell

  21. FPL Blow-In
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 18 days ago

    Play 2 please

    A) Bertrand
    B) Soucek
    C) Pereira
    D) Wilson
    E) Dier

    Thanks

    1. Livinginapool
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 17 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      Pereira, Wilson.

    2. FPL Blow-In
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      Team currently

      McCarthy
      Shaw, James, Saiss, Bertrand
      Kdb, Rashford, Havertz, Soucek
      Werner, Martial

      Meslier, Wilson, Dier, Pereira 0ft .5itb

  22. HAMMERTIME107
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 18 days ago

    Please help, should I do martial and diangana to DCL and Foden ???

    Yes or No ?

    McCarthy
    Justin | Doherty | Coleman
    Son | Salah | Diangana | Auba
    Martial | Wilson | Werner

    1. Rocky FPL
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      No keep Martial. Doherty to Saiss/James and Diangana to Foden.

  23. PepSala
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 18 days ago

    Anyone know if Tierney trained with the first team this week?

    1. Konstaapeli
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      We don't disquss Arsenal players in here.

    2. JustPark
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      Will concede anyway.

  24. Eleven Hag
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 18 days ago

    Captain Raz or KDB and Why?

    1. Threat Level Midnight
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      Raz because he is going to explode

    2. COLLIN QUANER
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      Raz looked very sharp and differential

    3. Rocky FPL
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      KDB because he is easily the best player out there.

    4. Alan Hansen's Emu
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      I'm going Sterling... because I can't afford KDB

    5. Konstaapeli
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      KDB because he's the best player in the league.

    6. Tinkermania
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      I have gone Raz because Kdb hauled last time. Remember no one hauls every match.

    7. Jordan.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      kdb ,pennos,free kicks,corners,probably takes the oranges round at half time,just busier than sterling...

  25. nn11
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 18 days ago

    A: Mitchell and Foden

    Or

    B: Keane and Costa

    1. Garth Marenghi
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      A

    2. Can’t beat em so&hell…
      • 15 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      A

  26. Saka Punch
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 18 days ago

    Hey guys, what's the latest on Marcal? How long do we think he's out? (I have Vinagre)

    1. Jordan.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      yeah me too ,no clues and the poor bugger still cant get a game i feel i have to play soucek at home...

  27. Alan Hansen's Emu
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 18 days ago

    Late injury scares to Jesus and KDB meant I've had to rework WC team last minute and missed a load of price rises FML... the below plays in to Wolves fixtures and im assuming Sterling & Foden will get game time and potentially play No.9.

    Martinez
    Coady | Saiss | Walker P
    Salah | Sterling | Son | Foden
    Jiminez | DCL | Werner

    1. Rocky FPL
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      KWP on defense? Lamptey, Taylor better options I reckon.

      1. Alan Hansen's Emu
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 18 days ago

        Hmmm. That 3rd DF has to play for me. Lamptey is an injury risk atm right? KWP offers attacking threat whilst Taylor more defensively sound... both good fixtures.

        Gun to head, taking account fixtures - who out of the 3 listed do you go for?

  28. JamTart
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 18 days ago

    Settled on this. Debated Son and Robbo over Salah and Pieters, but I fancy the Burnley defence for this run and always hate not owning Salah.

    Guaita, Button
    TAA, Saiss, Peters, Lamptey, Mitchell
    Salah, KdB, Foden, Podence, Anguissa
    Werner, Jimi, DCL

    G2G?

  29. damiang2233
    • 16 Years
    6 years, 18 days ago

    Pick One?
    1. Trossard
    2. Podence
    3. Praet
    4. Pereira
    5. Townsend

    1. Can’t beat em so&hell…
      • 15 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      2 safest.
      4 good punt

  30. Konstaapeli
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 18 days ago

    I see a lot of teams with somewhat risky picks (Podence, Foden, James, etc) + cheapest possible benches like Mitchell, Dunne, Burke. It's normally my way of playing this game but I feel the need to change that this season. I think you should have at least one decent nailed bench option.

    1. JamTart
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 18 days ago

      I agree with the weak benches, but I think Foden should be safe with the injuries they have and Podence looks on form. Might not be guaranteed starters long term but both definitely nailed medium term I'd say