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5 December 2020 1724 comments
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Timo Werner (£9.5m) is back in the Chelsea line-up following his midweek rest in the Champions League.

The former RB Leipzig forward is deployed on the left-hand side of the attack again, this time supporting Olivier Giroud (£6.7m) who found the net four times against Sevilla.

That sees Tammy Abraham (£7.2m) drop to the bench while Hakim Ziyech (£8.3m) provides width on the other flank.

Kai Havertz (£8.3m) and Mason Mount (£6.8m) are in central midfield with N’Golo Kanté (£4.9m) while the back-four lines up as we have come to expect on Chelsea’s recent run of three clean sheets in four.

Ben Chilwell (£6.2m) and Reece James (£5.2m) are the left and right full-back respectively, stationed either side of Kurt Zouma (£5.6m) and Thiago Silva (£5.5m).

Leeds are as we would expect them as well. Marcelo Bielsa has gone with a 4-1-4-1 formation once again with what looks like Stuart Dallas (£4.5m) in a central midfield role and Ezgjan Alioski (£4.4m) at left-back, considering wingers Jack Harrison (£5.5m) and Raphinha (£5.4m) are both in the starting line-up.

Chelsea XI (4-2-3-1): E Mendy; Chilwell, T Silva, Zouma, R James; Mount, Kanté, Havertz; Werner, Giroud, Ziyech.

Leeds United XI (4-1-4-1): Meslier; Alioski, Cooper, Koch, Ayling; Phillips; Harrison, Dallas, Klich, Raphinha; Bamford.

  1. Flair
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Bamford down to 2 BPS

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Zouma 0

    2. F4L
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      I'll take it and run.

    3. Botman and Robben
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      I will take it

  2. IRBOX ⚽
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Anyone else sell Sterling? Stand by that decision which was certainly correct in isolation. Still have Mo to play and the best captain asset next GW.

    1. Begbie.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Yes, today was my final game with him regardless of his return.

      1. Begbie.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        Sorry, thought you said "selling", my mistake. I kept for this game but selling now.

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Joe did but he's playing casually.

      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        Joe doesn't do casual. He's going to be a bundle of joy on Scoutcast then.

    3. Flair
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Sold him for KDB (C). Probably should have Salah for him on a 1 week punt but couldn't care less tbh

    4. NejiHyuuga01
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      *sold

    5. Big Ronnie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Casual move

      1. IRBOX ⚽
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        Casual would have been to hold given his rotation, CL minutes and Pep comments. All of the predicted line ups had him benched.

        1. Big Ronnie
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          5 years, 3 months ago

          Too easy! Casual is your favourite word

          1. IRBOX ⚽
            • 9 Years
            5 years, 3 months ago

            Nah that’s Brosstan

            1. Big Ronnie
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              5 years, 3 months ago

              Ah my bad, you two have been confused a few times recently.

  3. F4L
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    After Bamford's goal, Leeds barely had a chance of note. Chelsea's defence is unreal this season, and that was with only Kante sitting in midfield.

    1. Flair
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Liverpool 18/19 2.0

    2. Dr. Ante Pavlovic
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      They just had to concede to mess up clean sheet points and reward lucky Bamford casuals

      1. Baps Hunter
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        Sh*t happens 🙁

    3. Scholes Out For Summer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Girouds hold up play was quality today

    4. JONALDINHO
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Kante is one of the best midfielders we’ve ever witnessed full stop

    5. Begbie.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Raphinha put one over the bar that was basically an empty net, Poveda had a good sight at goal when he should've had the penalty, Alioski hit the post etc.

      Also worth taking into consideration the change in approach Leeds will have taken once they had a goal to defend.

  4. Scholes Out For Summer
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    dilemma: who to ship out to fund Salah: Werner or DCL

    Have to stick to original plan and say goodbye to DCL right?

    1. Iwantmorepointsthanks
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Werner out. Gives you more funds, too.

      1. Scholes Out For Summer
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        Don’t really need the money to be fair. Pretty settled side atm

    2. Begbie.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Werner easily.

      1. Scholes Out For Summer
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        How so? DCL has bad fixtures and injured supporting system. But Werner wastes more chances, but gets a lot in a much more attacking Chelsea team

        1. Begbie.
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          5 years, 3 months ago

          Because DCL is cheaper, has scored more goals, has scored more FPL points and doesn't play left wing.

          I'm not averse to selling DCL. I just think of those two he's a more solid 'keep' than Werner is.

    3. F4L
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Werner is a funny one. Averaging 5 PPG so far, which would put him at 190 for the season, which is alright value for 9.5.

      He's extremely frustrating though, if he started taking his chances he would be performing on the level of 11mil+ premium assets.

      1. Scholes Out For Summer
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        I feel like people are not keen on Werner as he’s been missing chances, but the ceiling is through the roof compared to DCL

        1. Begbie.
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          5 years, 3 months ago

          Yeah but it's all for nothing if your finishing is poor. DCL is clinical and scoring consistently whereas Werner is missing sitters and scoring sporadically.

        2. F4L
          • 11 Years
          5 years, 3 months ago

          For sure, I ditched DCL this week as I don't think he'll get much service moving forward with fixtures turning and the full backs injured.

          Was extremely close to putting in Werner (went for Jesus in the end), but if Frank is willing to give Werner time, and not drop him for missing chances, games like today should be very encouraging for Werner owners. You know at some point he'll start sticking the chances away.

      2. Plant Based FPLer
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        That's not good for 9.5. They try to make it about 60% return in points per $1 million spent. Almost not being captain-able is a problem, too. He might get better though. Chelsea look good.

    4. Nice to Finally Michu
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      DCL, worse fixtures and Werner will come good in a massive way soon

  5. Nice to Finally Michu
    • 12 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Werner haul is coming

    1. have you seen cyan
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      no it really isnt, benching more likely coming. He is garbage, even if he got a pen he would miss it

      1. Nice to Finally Michu
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        fine, all the points for me i guess

  6. Dirty Harry
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Damn Zouma lost 2 bonus

  7. Klaren
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Why did Zouma lose 2 bps when Pulisic scored? Went down from 30 to 28.

  8. Dynamic Duos
    • 12 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    37k with Vardy, Jota, Brewster and Neco left 🙂

    1. JONALDINHO
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Up to 80k from 250k here

    2. Iwantmorepointsthanks
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      nice

    3. Tambling5
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      17k with Vardy Robbo Zaha and McCarthy left!

      1. Tambling5
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        Oh and a wild card... however Salah, Kane, Son, Jota etc could rain on our parade!!

    4. Dr. Ante Pavlovic
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      600k to 300k here

    5. Dirty Harry
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Up 900k to 1.7m

    6. Feloh
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      800k to 400k

    7. Hazard_18
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      1.5m to 800k 🙂

  9. Stupendous
    • 13 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Torres and Cresswell
    To
    Jota and James?

    No brainer right?

    1. turd ferguson
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Yeh

    2. Tambling5
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Yeo solid moves. James seems nailed nowadays.

  10. turd ferguson
    • 13 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Kane out for KDB before the rise?
    (Have son)

    1. Monklane
      • 16 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      I have a son too. Good, isn't it?

    2. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Wait to see Kane and Son play first. You'll be cursing that 0.1m rise if one of them gets injured.

    3. Hect.OR 98th
      • 16 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      I'm leaving all transfers until the end of the week this season. Too much unpredictability with isolation, positive cases, games possibly called off. No point risking hits for the odd 0.1 here and there. When it comes to a WC and the chance to exploit any extra value, the difference is only ever one player, usually a slightly cheaper defender.

  11. Twisted Saltergater
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Rashford + Werner
    or
    Pulisic + Kane (-4)

    1. Hect.OR 98th
      • 16 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      I don't like either of those I'm afraid. I don't see any of those players providing enough points for their value at the moment.

      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        thanks for the honest feedback.

        1. Hect.OR 98th
          • 16 Years
          5 years, 3 months ago

          What's your team. Happy to give my view, although at 3m OR at the moment, I'm not exactly 'the knowledge' this season.

          1. Twisted Saltergater
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            5 years, 3 months ago

            Martinez
            James, Cancelo, Chilwell, Lamptey, Mitchell
            Salah, KdB, Grealish, Jota, Ziyech
            Kane, DCL, Brewster

            0 ITB

            Sold Bruno this week for KdB. Would like to get him back but not in an immediate rush with City up next.

            1. Hect.OR 98th
              • 16 Years
              5 years, 3 months ago

              8 the same as me!

              If you're sticking with 352, I'd see how Kane does tomorrow. If Spurs still aren't attacking enough, swap him for Bamford or Wilson who both have some good fixtures. I'm tempted by Wilson for his next 3. Use the funds the week after to upgrade Ziyech to Bruno.

              1. Hect.OR 98th
                • 16 Years
                5 years, 3 months ago

                That also gives you some cash to upgrade Mitchell, which you'll need over Xmas as James and Cancelo are likely candidates for rotation.

              2. Twisted Saltergater
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 16 Years
                5 years, 3 months ago

                Thanks mate. I like Newcastle's next 3 but don't like Newcastle - they create so little for him. If I sell Kane, it really has to be worth it and I only see Bruno in midfield as an upgrade.

                You're right about freeing up some cash to upgrade Mitchell. That's why I'm pausing on selling Ziyech for Pulisic at the same price.

                Perhaps the right thing to do it save a transfer and bring in Bruno after GW12. I can then play Kane vs Palace, but lose out on Bruno going up 0.1m and Ziyech dropping 0.1m. Food for thought! Thanks 🙂

  12. Don Kloppeone
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    My green arrow is likely to get significantly smaller/ disappear tomorrow so I’ll enjoy it for now.

    53pts but only Robbo, KWP and Vardy left to play

    The Spurs boys and Salah I guess are the main threats

    1. Salarrivederci
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      and Jota 😉

      1. Don Kloppeone
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        Not if the leaked lineup is true!

  13. Kay317
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Best defender 5mil or under?
    Own Lamptey, James, Kilman, Reguilon.

    1. Begbie.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Dallas

      1. Kay317
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        Thats who I'm thinking. Cheers

    2. Baps Hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Coufal, Targett, Dallas?

    3. MGMT
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Dallas

  14. Flair
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    52 with Jota, Vardy, Lamptey and Salah still to play. The success of this GW depends on Spurs but it feels great!

    1. Stupendous
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Jesus christ. I have 15 from 5 including captain.

      1. Baps Hunter
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        50-4 + those and Podence to go. Template emerging?

        1. Baps Hunter
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 3 months ago

          Sorry, meant to answer Flair, reply fail.

    2. Salarrivederci
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      48 with McCarthy, Lamptey, Robertson, Son and Vardy to go.
      3 blanks (Bowen, Cresswell and Chilwell), but (K)DB, Fernandes & Bamford did the job

    3. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Nice one. 48 here with Kane, Salah, Jota and Lamptey to go.

    4. Scapegoat Salah
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Solid

      1. Flair
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        Sterling doing great for you this week mate, lost my patience with him personally 😆

    5. Uncle Gamst
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      55 with McCarthy, KWP, Lampety, Jota, Son and Kane to play.

      Really chuffed but normally, in GWs like this, the rest of the week goes completely downhill for me.

      The only disappointment is that I transferred Soucek out for Jota...who I believe might not play tomorrow

  15. Hect.OR 98th
    • 16 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    35 points from 5. Missed out on KDB this week but can't be greedy. Happy with a solid first half of the week.

  16. MGMT
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Best Ziyech Replacement? Currently have 8.5M to spend

    1. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Am looking at a straight swap for Pulisic. Seems sensible to keep a spot for a Chelsea attacker.

      1. MGMT
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        Thinking the same, looked so dangerous... Do you think he is first-team without injuries?

        1. Twisted Saltergater
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          5 years, 3 months ago

          There's Pulisic, Werner, Ziyech and Hudson-Odoi competing for those wide positions. Werner can play either side or up top but has played a lot of games and I wouldn't be surprised if he's given a rest soon.

          Only doubt for me is if Frank thinks Pulisic is ready.

    2. Kabayan
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Grealish

      1. MGMT
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        Already 3 Villa 🙁

  17. tommo123
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Early thoughts for next GW

    Son+Vardy > Salah+Wilson

    Worth a hit?

    1. Salarrivederci
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      I might do it and throw in Jota instead of Bowen (-8) 😉

      1. tommo123
        • 10 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        Already got Jota

    2. Uncle Gamst
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      That's what I'm thinking of doing. Just need to monitor for now?

  18. jdp219
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    1) Ziyech > Jota
    2) Ziyech, DCL > Salah, Brewster (-4)

    1. tommo123
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      1

    2. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      2 as you can captain Salah.

  19. Jdpz
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    What's wrong with Jota?

    1. Bobby Digital
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Rumours of benching

  20. Bobby Digital
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 3 months ago

    Vardy hattrick tomorrow

    1. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      The scenes if that happens! 😎

    2. Hect.OR 98th
      • 16 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      I hope so. Was disappointed with 5 points last week and he's probably leaving my team this week or next.

    3. Iceball
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      2 pointer incoming

    4. Party time
        5 years, 3 months ago

        Yes

    5. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 3 months ago

      Ziyech to pulisic done.....

      Third time I’ve bought pulisic this season, please don’t burn me again 😆

      1. Begbie.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        Why so early? Your players tomorrow could get injured or midweek in Europe...

        1. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          5 years, 3 months ago

          Had the exact money and ziyech close to dropping.

          Rather get him and risk an injury than play safe and not be able to afford him.

      2. Hect.OR 98th
        • 16 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        That's early. What will you do if the Chelsea game gets postponed or Pulisic has to isolate?

        1. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          5 years, 3 months ago

          See above response to Mo.

          It’s worth the risk for me.

      3. Bobby Digital
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        Both are made of glass

      4. Party time
          5 years, 3 months ago

          Oh yes. Ziyech to Salah here. Also I’ve changed my username & grav

      5. Old Wulfrunian
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        Enough is enough with Werner and Ziyech.

      6. Scapegoat Salah
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        40 plus Kane (C), Vardy, Jota, Lamptey and McCarthy to go.

        A successful fpl day on my birthday (I think) so far!

        1. Twisted Saltergater
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          5 years, 3 months ago

          happy birthday, KK!

          1. Scapegoat Salah
            • 9 Years
            5 years, 3 months ago

            Thanks mate

        2. sminkypinky
          • 14 Years
          5 years, 3 months ago

          Happy birthday mate!

          1. Scapegoat Salah
            • 9 Years
            5 years, 3 months ago

            Cheers

      7. Jdpz
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        McCarthy Nyland
        Chilwell Justin Konsa Tierney Taylor
        Kdb Son Bruno Jota Bissouma
        Kane Dcl Bamford
        0.5m in the bank, 2 ft.

        What to do? I don't know.

        1. Twisted Saltergater
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          5 years, 3 months ago

          I'd probably swap out Kane + Son for Salah and someone, but that someone is so important to get right seeing as you'd be giving up Kane + Son.

          1. Uncle Gamst
            • 14 Years
            5 years, 3 months ago

            I'm thinking Kane and Son > Wilson & Salah

            1. Twisted Saltergater
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              5 years, 3 months ago

              Will be a popular move, for sure.

            2. Whazza
              • 13 Years
              5 years, 3 months ago

              Would be careful with Wilson, game could be moved. And what will New look like after being sick and not training for over a week?

              1. Uncle Gamst
                • 14 Years
                5 years, 3 months ago

                Yes, situation needs monitoring

      8. abhirup780
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        58(-4) from 6. With Vardy and Son left. So far so good. 55k live OR.

      9. Champions League Varane
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 3 months ago

        How to get Salah?
        .1 ITB 1 FT

        Martinez
        Lamptey Chilwell Fofana
        Jota Bruno KDB Bowen
        DCL Kane Vardy.

        Foster,Targett,Burke,Mitchell

        1. ball c
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          5 years, 3 months ago

          Downgrade Vardy to Brewster.
          Upgrade Bowen to Salah.
          Job done

        2. Pinturicchio10
            5 years, 3 months ago

            Squad structure is an absolute mess.

            Kane and Bowen out.

        3. sminkypinky
          • 14 Years
          5 years, 3 months ago

          Was just about to type on the final minutes that I’m so glad I got rid of Werner for a hit. Jinxed it. Sorry non owners.

        4. abhirup780
          • 11 Years
          5 years, 3 months ago

          Will Salah rise tonight or tomorrow?

          1. Hazz
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            5 years, 3 months ago

            It's close. Might just miss out tonight, but wouldn't be surprised if he rises.

          2. jdp219
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            5 years, 3 months ago

            He's currently at 92 on FPL Statistics. So probably not...?

        5. ball c
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          5 years, 3 months ago

          Is it too early for this transfer?
          I’m sure prices are going to rise.

          Werner to Bamford
          Sterling to Salah
          -4.
          Had a good week so far.

          0m in the bank.

          Martinez
          James - PVA - Neco - Justin -Nkounkou
          Jota - Grealish - KDB - Sterling - Bruno
          Werner - Watkins - Brewster

          1. ball c
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            5 years, 3 months ago

            Correction
            Not Watkins.. DCL i have

        6. Danstoke82
          • 11 Years
          5 years, 3 months ago

          Not really a blockbuster move but

          Lamptey > Dallas 1FT?

          Yay or Nay?

          1. Bushwhacker
            • 6 Years
            5 years, 3 months ago

            Lordy no - WHY???