FPL Masterclass

Tips on how to target a top 10k FPL overall rank

Our new FPL Masterclass series unites three of the best Fantasy Premier League (FPL) managers around: two-time India champion Lateriser, seven-time top 10k finisher Zophar and five-time top 1,000 finisher Tom Freeman.

Between them, they have 20 overall ranks in the top 10,000, nine of which were within the top 1k.

They’ll be chipping in with regular Fantasy advice ahead of the start of 2021/22, with opinion on everything from tips for newcomers to captaincy picks.

Our trio of top managers will be writing for Fantasy Football Scout every week throughout the new season – and only subscribers will be able to read all of their articles in full.

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Having previously provided general advice for FPL managers ahead of the upcoming campaign, discussed proven assets v Fantasy gambles, mused on the importance of a strong bench and debated the importance of team value, our panel are now asked about their strong suit: how to target a top 10k finish.

LATERISER SAID…

This is such a tricky question and I don’t really know how to answer it but let me give it a go. Firstly, you need to determine what your own skillset and temperament is like. Are you good at playing a stat-focused game or an eye-test game? Are you comfortable playing a high variance game (which is dependent on your risk appetite)? Take advantage of your own skillset and temperament and play the game you’re comfortable with (it doesn’t have to be black or white).

Once that is out of the way, don’t presume that this season is going to be similar to the previous one. Every campaign in FPL is very unique and you need to try having no biases from the previous season going into the new one. Methods that worked for you last year might not necessarily work for you this time around.

So after every week, you need to take a step back and think macro and strategy while making your moves. FPL is such a dynamic game that one week is a very long time and a lot of moving parts are there which you need to be on top of.

The most important tip, in my opinion, is that nothing really increases your chances of success in this game more than good old groundwork and research. This game has become more and more popular over the years and the managers we are competing with in FPL are armed with more and more information. This means that you need to go more than the extra yard to gain an advantage on your competition, which means reading more articles, doing your own research, watching highlights carefully, visiting fan forums, etc. This is always going to be the most important factor in giving you a chance of finishing in the top 10k once you’ve determined the style of play you’re comfortable with.

TOM SAID…

Firstly, the game is much, much harder nowadays. Even the casuals will be aware of the Double and Blank Gameweeks, so I’m not sure setting yourself a top 10k target from a pool of 8m+ players is such a good idea. I’d argue that a top 50k finish is perhaps more realistic, and let’s be honest, the difference between the two is often a couple of big captaincy calls going your way, or maybe your Triple Captain firing. Sometimes you’ll get lucky, sometimes you won’t; that’s just the way it goes.

However, to hit those really high finishes, planning is essential. Try and visualise how you want your team to look a few weeks down the line, paying careful attention to captaincy and any big fixture swings. As a result, it should at least ensure you don’t have to take any unnecessary hits ahead of a deadline.

Knowing when to react to the development of teams in shorter spells is also important, too: always ask yourself if they are the real deal or have they simply benefitted from an easier run of fixtures?

Also, ensure you put enough time aside to watch games and analyse data, so that you can at least form your own opinions rather than count on others.

ZOPHAR SAID…

With the number of FPL users growing each year, achieving a top 10k finish is only getting more difficult. With the game so popular and information so widely available, players are well aware of Double/Blank Gameweeks and there are so many resources to aid them in their planning for the same. Simply picking the popular template players used to be a viable strategy early on but this would probably only get you a 30-40k finish these days, not in the top 10k. 

To get there now, you need to move onto the next bandwagon before the crowd. There’s no point transferring a player in after a haul, as the masses would already have caught onto him and there won’t be any significant gains to be had as most people around your rank would already own him. For this, it is necessary to think forward. Look at when the fixtures are favourable for a player and bring him in ahead of that run, rather than waiting for him to deliver. 

You also need a few differentials in your squad to make up ground. If you are near 70-80% of the template, then the gains are going to be steady and not significant. A few punts on low-owned players, say under 10% ownership, could propel you up the ranks if they deliver. I would say the last 10 weeks are a good time to look for differentials, not early doors. In the first half of the season, it is better to go with the trusted, proven picks, and by the second half, we usually have enough information to ascertain which players are going under the radar.

1,121 Comments Post a Comment
  1. BobB
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Who will be WH first choice, Areola or Fabianski?

    1. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Areola at a pinch.

    2. Rochdale_Cowboy
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      I make sure you get the right one, otherwise you'll feel a bit of a tit

      1. The Knights Template
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Udderly appalling!

        1. Rochdale_Cowboy
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          I'll nip it in the bud

          1. The Knights Template
            • 10 Years
            2 years, 8 months ago

            Now you're just milking it!

            1. TheTinman
              • 8 Years
              2 years, 8 months ago

              Mooove on boys, this jokes over

              1. The Knights Template
                • 10 Years
                2 years, 8 months ago

                See below, mooved on already.

  2. BobB
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Areola for PL, Fabianski for Europa and domestic cups?

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      That would be my guess

    2. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Areola for the D cups I hope!

  3. SADIO SANÉ
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    a whole sleep done and this white banner/menu is still here...sort it out 😀

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Reinstall your browser?

  4. mlm
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Martinez (Foster)
    TAA Shaw Coufal (Fofana Omobamidele)
    Salah Bruno Buendia Sarr (Brownhill)
    DCL Watkins Toney

    0.5 ITB

    How is it? thanks.

    1. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Just dandy

    2. Tomcon6
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Looks cool

    3. TheBiffas
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Template but solid

  5. I am 42
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Why is there no love for Mané?
    Correct benching order for my team? Shaw Ayling Brownhill

    Sánchez (Foster)
    TAA White Digne (Shaw Ayling)
    Salah(C) Mané ESR Buendía (Brownhill)
    DCL Antonio Watkins(VC)

    1. TheTinman
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Badly priced

    2. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      For $12m I'd want penalties.

      1. I am 42
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Not even for 1st 2 GWs?

        I know it's a bad idea to plan transfer but likely to move to another premium by GW3

        1. TheTinman
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          You don't wanna be making a lot of transfers on your premiums. They're supposed to be ye old reliable

          1. I am 42
            • 10 Years
            2 years, 8 months ago

            Planning to get Kane but definitely not for GW1

            Mané + FWD to Raphael + Kane

        2. The Knights Template
          • 10 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Nup

    3. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Regression? Maybe maybe not but he was hateful last season. His drop off was as significant as VVD imo. Liverpool just weren't able to put teams away and missed no end of chances - mostly missed by Mane. That terrible run of home defeats was about cack finishing and not simply defence.

      2018/19 - 22 goals
      2019/20 - 18 goals
      2020/21 - 11 goals

      1. I am 42
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        his final game did pay off to his believers thou

        1. pingissimus
          • 5 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          If he starts to shoot straight he's a genuine option of course - went with him over Mo for most of the good time. Wouldn't hesitate to do it again if he looks good - just not from the off.

        2. Gross Blank Point
          • 3 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          I brought him in for that game and (c) him, best stroke of luck I had all season, did wonders for the rank!

      2. Cok3y5murf
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        What surprises me is that TAA dropped off as well, yet no one calls him overpriced. Got just 7 points more than Cresswell for 2m more.

        1. Nate(U)dog(ie)
          • 3 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          TAA had an awful first half of the season but a superb second half. If it was the other way around I think there would be a lot less people going for him now.

          1. Cok3y5murf
            • 7 Years
            2 years, 8 months ago

            Not a good second half, just a good final 10 weeks. But that applied to Mane as well.

          2. pingissimus
            • 5 Years
            2 years, 8 months ago

            True he was much better then but if you recall `Liverpool had a stupendous fixture run against sides already relegated or nothing to play for so that comes with a caveat if you want to take it as a benchmark. I'd take each half of the season with a pinch of salt.

            1. Nate(U)dog(ie)
              • 3 Years
              2 years, 8 months ago

              Of course, I mean I still wouldn't be planning on a defensive double-up (I'm not even doing a Liverpool double-up as I'm going with no Salah) but this article talks about how he improved his game and performances around GW20-27 (before his best run in terms of FPL performance) after having probably his worst spell (with the Southampton game being a marker). Defensively Liverpool were still suspect so it didn't always translate into points but TAA made a vast improvement on tackles pg and key passes among other things

              https://fplconnect.blog/2021/03/11/the-revival-of-trent-alexander-arnold/

        2. pingissimus
          • 5 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Chilwell matched TAA for attacking returns per 90 as well. As a goal threat he actually looks better if you look at the nature of the chances he gets.

          If Chilwell gets game time that 1.5 differential looks all wrong even without considering respective cs strength

        3. Haa-lala-land
          • 3 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Yes agrred - TAA may well be the highest scoring defender over the season but he is over priced. Are those extra points really worth an extra 1.5m to 2m? Probably not if you can upgrade elsewhere.

          1. Cok3y5murf
            • 7 Years
            2 years, 8 months ago

            I tend to look at every season as a fresh slate and not worry too much about slight mispricing. They have the best fixtures and he could well go back to his older standards, so he's very much in consideration. Going with a cheap defender over him pretty much buys you an extra big hitter though.

    4. I am 42
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Thanks all, will reconsider my options.

    5. Nate(U)dog(ie)
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      His pricing is exceptionally high after coming off of a poor season. But I will be keeping a very close eye on him. I've always liked having Mane as an FPL asset (not good reasoning for picking a player in a new season of course), but the main thing for me is that he stated before the end of last season that he knew it was a poor one and that he was unhappy with himself, and he's stated that again recently and his intention to put that right. I know players can say anything and saying "I want to do better than last" is obvious but I think last season was an outlier for him and expect a big improvement. I won't go there yet but will see if I can keep open the possibility for a few weeks.

  6. Kimmich
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Not sure on Greenwood but I guess he’s likely to start the season?

    Meslier
    Cancelo - Chilwell - Shaw
    Salah - Son - Havertz - Greenwood - Raphinha
    Antonio - Watkins

    4.0 -Veltman - White - Obafemi

    1. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Not sure on Greenwood. I'd remove him.

    2. TheTinman
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Would you green if green would? I am.

      1. Haa-lala-land
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Edward Wood would.

  7. Emiliano Sala
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Is brownhill best 4.5 midfielder?

    1. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Prefer Bissouma

      1. Emiliano Sala
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Just checked brownhill average line up. He is the best 😉

        1. The Knights Template
          • 10 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Cheers

    2. Haa-lala-land
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      They're all the same

    3. TheTinman
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      He won't be the worst. Toss up other than that. Nobody stands out

    4. Winston.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Yes

    5. TheBiffas
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Probably, you're never gonna want triple Burnley

  8. R.C
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Who will start with Dias at CB v/s Spurs?

    1. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Laporte or Stones

    2. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Not sure, think Laporte and Stones only arrived back in training today. If Ake has been performing in pre-season he could be in with a shout.

  9. FPL Emu
    • 13 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    A) Son + Robinson

    B) Salah + 4.5 def in a rotation with White

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      A - but you will need to find captain options elsewhere in your squad

      1. TheBiffas
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        B

  10. Steve The Spud
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    How many mini leagues is to many ?

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      I think the max you can join is 25

      1. Steve The Spud
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        I’m only on about 10 and it already feel like a lot

        1. SteJ
          • 4 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          The strategy is the same for all of them though, score the most points

          1. TheTinman
            • 8 Years
            2 years, 8 months ago

            Exactly 😆

        2. Miguel Sanchez
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Just look after your OR and your mini-leagues will look after themselves

  11. Winston.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    A. DCL / 343 or
    B. Havertz / 352 ?

    1. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      A

  12. MGMT
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Sanchez (4M)

    TAA - Coufal - White (Ayling,Omo)

    Salah - Bruno - Mahrez - Raph (4.5)

    Watkins - Toney - Antonio

    Thoughts? Currently undecided with Mahrez

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      That looks great - Mahrez should be fine to start the first few GWs with so many City players heavily involved in Euro 2020

    2. Tomcon6
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Very cool

    3. Weeb Kakashi
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Solid. Similar to mine

      Have gone for
      Son Beundia Robbo Digne
      Over
      Bruno Watkins Coufal White.

    4. TheBiffas
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      I have the exact same with a few tweaks, looks good

    5. A19
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Really like the look of it! I think going with Mahrez is a good idea as his price point gives you a lot of options if/when he gets rotated too much by Pep.

      I'm similar the main differences are:

      You: Coufal Toney (Omo)
      Me: Shaw Digne (Davis) in a 442

  13. Weeb Kakashi
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Thoughts??

    Sanchez
    TAA Robbo Digne
    Salah Son Mahrez Raphinha Beundia
    Antonio Toney

    Ayling Obafemi

    Robbo> Shaw
    Mahrez> Sancho would be the moves in GW3.

    1. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Don't prebook transfers.

      The team is fine.

      1. Haa-lala-land
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Yes not prebooking transfers is smart. Some people here talk of a plan to start Havertz GW1 then Gw2 transfer to Mahrez then GW3 transfer to Son, but I can see that going horribly pear shaped.

      2. Weeb Kakashi
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Cheers Camzy.

  14. Botman and Robben
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Struggling to decide here.

    Digne or Shaw?

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Digne - Shaw only returns to training today so no certainty to start GW1

      1. Weeb Kakashi
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Does he return today? Might start as its more than 10 days left.

        1. Brimble82
          • 5 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Plus Telles is out.

      2. Botman and Robben
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Cheers. Haven't seen you on here since last season. Willing to show your team?

    2. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Digne to start imo

      Better fixtures really and Everton defence is settled whereas United have Euro preseason problems and also Varane to bed in. Think United will be a great call longer term especially if they sign someone who can play in the double pivot.

      (Looking here at cs really - don't see too much in it in attacking returns though Shaw is mostly promise there - United were awful on set pieces last time)

      1. Botman and Robben
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        I have Digne atm. Thanks

  15. Miguel Sanchez
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Who scores more GW1 and 2:

    A) Chilwell (CPA, ars)
    B) Cancelo (tot, NOR)

    1. Weeb Kakashi
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      I guess thats a placeholder for Shaw?
      B

    2. Flair
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Chilwell. Think Chelsea have a better chance of cleaning both and value that higher than Cancelo's marginally better offensive threat.

  16. Kristobal
    • 12 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    A) Sanchez, Shaw, DCL

    B) Martinez, Firpo (already have Tierney & Coufal) and Wilson/Iheanacho

  17. Bart Baryon
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Any thoughts on this first draft?

    Sanchez (Dubravka)
    Robbo Pereira Shaw Digne (Ait Nouri)
    Salah Fernandes Havertz Gray (Gilmour)
    Watkins Toney (Fabio Silva)

    Funds are spreaded across with not the cheapest bench either, but i like the flexibility.

  18. soulsaver
    • 14 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Hey Guys!
    Thoughts?
    Sanchez/Steer
    TAA-Digne-Shaw-White-Andersen
    Son-Mahrez--Salah-Dallas-ESR
    Watkins-Toney-Antino

  19. Warby84
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Sanchez Steele
    Trent Dias White (Ayling Omadelle)
    Havertz Salah Mahrez Raphinha (Brownhill)
    Watkins Werner Antonio

    Mahrez Havertz
    Or
    Son Pepe

    Werner a big gamble or shall I avoid and go for DCL?

    1. Haa-lala-land
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Every single week you'd be checking to see whether Mahrez, Havertz and Werner have made the starting line up. As long as you can live with that stress. Perhaps two out of three would be slightly more manageable.

  20. The Mandalorian
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Alot of Greenwood hype but I don't see it. Pogba will likely start on the left and Greenwood will provide cover for Sancho or Cavani.

    United need Pogba to sign a new contract, he will start most games.

    So far Ole has not switched to a 4 3 3 in pre season so I expect Pogba to play in a front 3 behind the striker

    1. Haa-lala-land
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      I don't think Greenwood is as good a player as people think he is. Short streaks at best. Even if he plays, will he be the one to get the points.

  21. FPL Mad
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 2 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    I'm new to this group, thoughts on my first draft please?
    Sanchez
    TAA White Dunk
    Salah Saka Grealish Buendia
    Kane DCL Watkins

    Phase out Saka/Buendia for Rahpina/Alli

    Thanks

    1. FPL Mad
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Changed it already for something completely different.....

      Sanchez
      TAA Robbo Digne Shaw
      Salah Fernandes Raphinha
      DCL Watkins Toney

      Better?

  22. crazysidz
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Kindly RMT

    Martinez
    SHaw, VVD, Digne, fofona
    Salah, son, barnes, beundia,
    Cavani, Iheanacho

    Subs; Sanchez, Tony, Kante, Manquillo

  23. lucashood
    • 2 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Thoughts on my latest team

    Sanchez

    TAA Digne Shaw Johnson

    Raphina Barnes Salah Fernandes

    Antonio Watkins

    Subs: Williams Brownhill Davis

  24. ConorA4
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    How dangerous is going with a 4.0 DEF and two 4.5 MIDs? I like the prospects of Calvert-Lewin (8.0m) and a playing 4.5m MID than Grealish (8.0m) and a non-playing 4.5m forward, but I already have a 4.5m MID in Bissouma.

    1. Wrench
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Your 4.5 mid(s) won't score much more than a non-playing 4.5 fwd anyway, and you'll have a weak bench.

  25. Society
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Top 10K, I wish ! Been thinking big at the back this season. Draft includes premium fwd, but have had to let 2nd premium mids go, in favour of 2 strikers, 1 pemium mid, 4 mid range mids to get 5 at the back.
    Def is : 7.0, 6.0, 6.0, 5.5, 4.5 and includes liv, city, che, mutd & ars.
    That's at least 50 clean sheets .... CS = 4pts ..... same as a striker goal.
    Now I've gotta rotate them in an educated fashion !!!!
    GW 3, 9 & 11 are posing real headaches.

  26. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    If United sign Kane, would he take pens off Bruno?

  27. bootsmanus
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Why is Toney getting so much love but none for other talisman players in promotion teams like Deeney and Pukki?

    Personally Im seriously thinking about Deeney for the first couple of matches (4 seasons above 100 points, one of 166) and Toney has no PL experience. Can we simply chalk it up to "the people want a new flavour"?

  28. Bobby's Teeth
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Hey legends, which one would you deem better?
    1. Buendia + Digne
    2. Greenwood + White