Moving Target
5 August 2021 664 comments
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Many Fantasy Premier League (FPL) plans were thrown into disarray on Wednesday evening when Aston Villa announced the surprise signing of Southampton forward Danny Ings (£8.0m).

It was something of a throwback to how transfer business used to get done, with no news or rumours reported by a single journalist.

With all eyes on Jack Grealish’s (£8.0m) imminent departure to Manchester City, the Villans threw us a curveball by confirming the capture of Ings for a fee believed to be an initial £25m plus add-ons. 

The 29-year-old forward joins summer recruits Leon Bailey (£6.5m), Emiliano Buendía (£6.5m) and Ashley Young (£5.0m) at Villa Park.

Villa head coach Dean Smith said of Ings’ capture:

“Danny is an outstanding Premier League footballer who has scored goals wherever he has played. He is also a top professional with a great character who will be a leader in our squad and a role model for our rapidly developing young Academy players who are now in and around the first team. I am delighted to welcome Danny to our great Club.”

Ings’ move to B6 is a significant one for Fantasy Premier League (FPL) managers that may well have ramifications for Ollie Watkins (£7.5m) too, which we’ll explore in our latest Moving Target report below.

INGS’ PROFILE AND STATS

SouBur Sunday

First and foremost, Ings is a proven goalscorer.

In fact, only Harry Kane (£12.5m), Mohamed Salah (£12.5m) and Jamie Vardy (£10.5m) have scored more across the last two Premier League seasons. 

During that time, he has overperformed his expected goal (xG) totals in both campaigns, with an impressive goal conversion rate of 21.1% in 2020/21.

However, he also offers more to the team in his all-round game.

He will often pull out wide or drop deeper in an attempt to pick out runners with a pass, which could be good news for the likes of Bailey and Watkins.

Above: Danny Ings 2020/21 touch heat map

Injuries were a problem for Ings in the past, but he has only missed 11 Premier League games across the last two seasons.

INGS’ PREMIER LEAGUE RECORD:

SeasonClub    Appearances   Goals   Assists
2014/15Burnley35 (0)114
2015/16Liverpool6 (3)20
2016/17Liverpool0 (0)00
2017/18Liverpool8 (5)10
2018/19Liverpool0 (0)00
2018/19Southampton24 (1)73
2019/20Southampton38 (6)222
2020/21Southampton29 (3)124

WHERE DOES INGS FIT IN AT VILLA AND WHAT DOES HIS ARRIVAL MEAN FOR WATKINS?

FURTHER READING

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  1. WVA
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Triple Villa for those first three and covering the high ownership players.

    Martinez
    TAA Digne Shaw
    Salah Bruno Raphina Buendia
    DCL Watkins Toney

    1. LangerznMash
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Planning your WC for GW4?

      1. WVA
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Not planning it but I think we all know it's likely to happen lol

    2. Make United Great Again
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Not worth it

      1. WVA
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        What's not worth what?

  2. The Final Boss
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Guys posting after a looooooong time...
    No messing around.RMT out f 10

    Sanchez foster
    Taa coufal veltman white 4.0
    Salah bruno son buendia raph
    Antonio toney obafemi

    TIA.

    1. Parcel Badger
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      weak defence but sold midfield... punty upfront but can't have it all when you've got 3xpremium mids

      1. Lanley Staurel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        A defence of Liverpool, Arsenal, West Ham and Brighton is not weak when you consider the 7 attacking players he has.

    2. wh05nxt
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Looks pretty template (but that's not a bad thing) and like the Son squeeze in there, so gotta give it an 8.5.

    3. AW127
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      8.9

  3. wh05nxt
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    RP - do want to see what feedback would be on this. Won't RP again though:

    Hello all,

    Rate my punty team?

    Henderson (Covid dependent)

    TAA, Tierny, Stones Veltman Ayling

    Sancho Foden Havertz Jota Raphinha

    Auba Antonio Toney

    Allows for Auba + Foden -> Kane + ESR if that move happens.

    Hit me with some benching headaches and how Salah / Bruno are must-owns......

    1. Dr. Rog
      • 16 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      at this stage you are just going to be told to use the template

      1. wh05nxt
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Yeah I assume so, but that's no fun. Any thoughts on any of the individual punts that may be interesting?

        Surprised there's not been more Havertz love given price and Euros. Are fix putting people off?

        1. Dr. Rog
          • 16 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          that and Lukaku signing

          1. wh05nxt
            • 10 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            Valid, might have to reconsider with that looking likely now.

            Cheers for the response!

    2. AW127
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Auba ಠ_ಠ

  4. Dr. Rog
    • 16 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    For the season (ghost team planning)

    A) Salah + Toney
    B) Kane + Buendia

    1. wh05nxt
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Probably A - struggle to see Toney being a bust really, even if Brentford aren't that great.

    2. Moderately content penguin
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Putting together a ghost team too

      First time for me. Two premiums sensible generally just to get captain?

      1. Dr. Rog
        • 16 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Depends how you want to play it.
        I like to have a proper bench.

  5. Philosopher's Stones
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Was on Watkins, but with the arrival of Ings, he may be moved out wide and even benched/substituted on the odd occasion. Thinking of going for Buendia now, as he now has plenty attacking players around him with the addition of Ings and Bailey.

  6. Bobby Digital
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    A. DCL and Toney +0.5m
    or
    B. Antonio and Nacho

    1. Dynamic Duos
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Not going Ings?

      1. Bobby Digital
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Sure... My third forward is Watkins.

      2. Bobby Digital
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Option A would enable a Watkins to Ings transfer. Just not sure Ings will start.

        1. Dynamic Duos
          • 12 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          A, why wouldn't Ings start?

          1. Bobby Digital
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            Maybe he'll be eased in?

    2. DannyDrinkVodka
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Antonio and Toney

  7. Dynamic Duos
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Jota!

    1. DannyDrinkVodka
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      just as I was starting to feel comfortable leaving him out

      1. CornerTakenQuicklyOrigi
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Both goals (Mane now too) have been put on a plate by the Bologna defence

  8. sirmorbach
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    I think it's too simplistic to think Watkins is now "out of position" and that's it. More than positions, players have characteristics. He and Ings can both get in scoring positions and alternate in-game.

    (Or maybe that's wishful thinking by me.)

    1. I Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I agree. The article also shows that Ings drifted out to the left quite a bit last season. They could alternate throughout games as you suggest. Still think Watkins will get into dangerous positions.

      1. sirmorbach
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Cheers!

  9. Jimjam
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    (A) Bruno, Buendía, White
    (B) Son, Jota, Shaw

    1. sirmorbach
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      A

    2. Dynamic Duos
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      B

    3. I Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      That is so so close.

  10. Barns
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Thought I had settled on my team until this, not sure whether to move walking to ings but would need to find the extra 0.5, thoughts would be appreciated:

    Sanchez Foster
    TAA Shaw White
    Salah (c) Bruno Jota Buendia
    Antonio Watkins Toney

    Foster ESR Ait Nori Manquillo

    1. DannyDrinkVodka
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      ESR to a 4.5

      1. sirmorbach
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Yeah, or that

    2. sirmorbach
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I'm keeping, though I'd downgrade Jota to Raph if I were you.

      1. Barns
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Cheers, planning an early wildcard so will likely switch Jota to Raph then but with both sets of fixtures I’m willing to gamble with Jota. ESR might be the way I go if I do move

  11. Zladan
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Getting closer and closer to where I think I’ll start the season. 3 LFC essential imo.

    Sanchez
    TAA Robbo Shaw
    Salah Bruno Mahrez Gray
    DCL Toney

    Foster Gilmour Obafemi Omabamidele

    1. Dynamic Duos
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Player missing

  12. Bielsa's Bucket
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Annoying, but with Grealish off, I'll get Emi B in and wait and see for Ings / Watkins

  13. Botman and Robben
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Would like to take a punt on Mount, but I am too chicken.

    1. marcos11
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I think he’s one of the best options at 7.5, one of the most nailed at Chelsea and has performed very well since Tuchel came in

    2. Dr. Rog
      • 16 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      good for 150+ points. view him like the premium defender, not a bandwagon but a set and forget.

    3. sirmorbach
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I'd rather have Robbo, for instance. Think Mount assists the assister

    4. WVA
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Got told he wouldn't be ready for gw1

  14. Botman and Robben
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Show me the Mane.

  15. King Carlos
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    So the best nailed on mid-priced strikers (barring injuries ofc) now are

    Bamford
    DCL
    Wilson
    Antonio
    Toney

    am I right?

    1. Bobby Digital
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Ings
      Watkins

      1. King Carlos
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        but can we be sure now that they both play over 60 mins every GW?

        1. Dynamic Duos
          • 12 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Yes lol

        2. WVA
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Watkins plays 90 minutes every game

    2. Dynamic Duos
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Ings

  16. Rainer
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Will be surprised if anyone picks Salah over Mane now...

    1. Dynamic Duos
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Why do you assume no one knows what they are doing?

    2. I Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      That's Mane's 3rd goal of preseason now. Historically he's been better away from home than Salah. Norwich away GW1. Mane (c)?

  17. You've got red on you.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    a) Bruno, Buendia, Antonio

    b) Son, Sancho, Pukki

    1. Steiger
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      A all day long

      1. RamaJama
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        This

  18. sirmorbach
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    What do you say, lads?

    A. Harvey Barnes + Watkins (3-5-2)
    B. Dias/Cancelo + Ings (4-4-2)

    1. FPL Emu
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Tough. B if not wildcarding early, A if you are

    2. Ruudy Van
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I’d be concerned over Harvey barnes fitness still

  19. FPL Emu
    • 15 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    How do I cut down 0.5 million on this team?

    Sanchez (Foster)

    Shaw - TAA - Digne (4.5 - 4.0)

    Buendia - Salah - Bruno - Greenwood - Jota

    Toney - DCL (Obafemi)

    Caveat: I will go Jota + triple United!

    1. sirmorbach
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Digne to Coufal? (Thanks for your reply to me as well!)

      1. FPL Emu
        • 15 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Yeah, was considering this actually. But took a break last year, so know practically nothing about Coufal

        1. King Carlos
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Coufal could be great for the first 4 games

    2. Jonesfromthere
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I'd lose DCL for Antonio/Nacho/Wilson over Digne to Coufal.

    3. King Carlos
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Jota bad pick IMHO....

      Jota to ESR or Townsend (punt) and Shaw to Robertson. There's your 0.5 mil

    4. dbeck
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      shaw to Couf
      Emi to Sarr/ESR
      DCL to Antonio

      I dont hate any of those

  20. Jonesfromthere
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    My current draft has both Salah and Mane.

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Will your final draft?

  21. dbeck
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Guys, two spots in my team, £13m to spend on one mid and one forward.

    Thinking Toney plus £6.5m mid

    Or 7.5 forward plus £5.5m

    Worth noting i have Antonio and Raph in my team

    Any pairings that stand out in those brackets?

    1. Bobby Digital
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      7.5m plus ESR

      1. dbeck
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        yeah, who stands out at that 7.5m who isnt Antonio. I like the Wilson pick but pairing him with Antonio is a potential injury disaster

        1. Bobby Digital
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Nacho? Watkins?

    2. Bobby Digital
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Toney plus Buendia

  22. The Senate
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    madness to go with a bench of:
    4.0GK 4.5DEF 4.5FWD 4.0DEF?

    1. dbeck
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      totally team dependent, if you have risky picks like lots of man city then i'd want to have one more playing bench. If you have some great glue guys, it would be fine

      1. Carlton P
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Agree but regardless I would still go with 2 x 4.5 defenders

  23. Dr. Rog
    • 16 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Some intriguing double ups all at the same cost (2020 pp90 in brackets)

    AVL: Buendia (n/a) + Ings (5.42)
    LEE: Raph (5.08) + Bamford (5.72)
    LEI: Barnes (5.83) + Nacho (6.82)

    Rank these pairs for highest points over the season

    1. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Raph and Bamford purely because they'll play the most minutes.

      1. Dr. Rog
        • 16 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        and the worst pairing?

        1. Zimo
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Has to be Leicester since they're probably vying for the same spot on the team unless Vardy is the one who'll be subbed

          1. Dr. Rog
            • 16 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            shame, cos statistically they are the best and they play for the best team.
            but agree with this and its too punty for a ghost team (basically already going to have a lot of rotation threats with 5 City players)

        2. Carlton P
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Barnes nacho as they’re possibly fighting for the same spot in the Xl

  24. DAZZ
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Current team:

    Sanchez
    TAA Digne Veltman
    Salah Bruno Greenwood Barnes
    Ings Antonio Toney
    (Foster, Ayling, Brownhill, Manquillo)

    Not sure on Brighton double defence but will rotate with Ayling. Thoughts?

    1. Steiger
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Exactly the same team as mine apart from your Veltman/Barnes to my Coufal/Buendia.

      I think it is a bit much having two Brighton that's why I've mixed it up.

      1. DAZZ
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Cheers mate. I’m kind of set on Barnes, i think i could possibly go for White as a 4.5 defender.

    2. DannyDrinkVodka
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Almost identical to my team - would upgrade Ayling to Shaw and bring in Buendia for Greenwood (that would make our starting XI the same).

  25. AC/DC AFC
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    £110 million to buy back Lukaku 7 years later on sounds like fantasy money to me.

    Only 8 players have ever sold for more than £100 million I think.

    Crazy real world. Nevermind on FFS.

    1. Nate(U)dog(ie)
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Some of the players Chelsea have hogged and eventually let go over the years after loan deals are crazy (Salah, KDB and Lukaku being the biggest ones). ManUtd rebuying Pogba for ~£90m will arguably be worse though considering how little he's repaid that fee back. The game is in a sad state now though and has been for many years

      1. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Lukaku barely played for Chelsea. Was it 14 starts. Not enough to claim 'unfinished business'
        Personally i think Chelsea should have held out for Haaland. Lukaku is not the best fit for the squad.

  26. Hazz
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Has Salah scored this pre-season?

    Keep seeing Mané has netted quite a few, but haven't seen much from Salah.

    Obviously not saying he won't score but...

    1. I Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      No he hasn't.

      1. Zimo
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        And he never will again

        1. Dynamic Duos
          • 12 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Agree , get Salah out of your teams

          1. Zimo
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            Done

            1. Dynamic Duos
              • 12 Years
              4 years, 4 months ago

              I must make I remember to do it before deadline

    2. @persecuted_by_mods
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Salah in decline

      • FFSbet.com
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Which doctor with fiver again

    3. Dynamic Duos
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Which combo do you think scores more? Let's say 1st 10 gwks

      A) Robbo, Coufal, Greenwood
      B) Cancelo, Chilwell, Jota

      1. I Member
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        A

      2. CornerTakenQuicklyOrigi
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        B

      3. Steiger
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        A

    4. Bobby Digital
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Picking the right forward combo will be hard this year. So many good options in the 7.5-8.0m bracket.

      1. Zimo
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Ings and Bamford

        1. Zimo
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          And 3rd slot for Kane if he goes to City.

        2. Bobby Digital
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Bamford GW4->

          1. Zimo
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            Yeah i have Antonio till GW4 then switching to Bamford

        3. Andy_Social
          • 13 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          this

          1. Andy_Social
            • 13 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            Er, should be under 'Bamford and Ings'.

    5. Ruudy Van
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Thing I might pulled something off here 0.5ITB…thoughts would be much appreciated..

      Sanchez
      TAA Shaw Konsa
      Bruno salah mahrez soucek
      Barnes Toney ings
      (4.0 Dier, Veltman, brownhill)

      1. Meme2011
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        You playing 2 of Barnes, Toney, Soucek, Dier, Veltman, Brownhill every week with the added risk of Mahrez rotation?

    6. sw3nzor
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Ederson - (Foster)
      TAA - Shaw - Coufal - (Coady) - (Omobamidele)
      Salah - KDB - Soucek - Traore - (Bissouma)
      Watkins - Iheanacho - Toney

      1m in the bank.

      Not long ago Sterling was in for KDB and Reece James for TAA.
      That way 4m remained in the bank and it was still decent.
      Any starter def suggestion for 4mil?

      Thoughts?
      Thanks!