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‘Five substitutes’ rule: Which FPL players are at risk of being subbed?

From the start of 2022/23, Premier League clubs will be allowed to make five substitutions per match.

We’re looking at how this rule will affect Fantasy Premier League (FPL) managers next season and have already assessed what happened when five changes were previously – and briefly – allowed in 2019/20.

Now, we take a more focused look at the players from last season’s top five teams who look the likeliest to avoid a withdrawal and those who are most prone to being substituted.

In particular, we are hoping to find out more about defensive assets and their chances of making it to the magic 60-minute mark to bank clean sheet points.

For this article, we’ll look at how Pep Guardiola, Jurgen Klopp, Antonio Conte, Thomas Tuchel and Mikel Arteta handled their substitutions in 2020/21.

READ MOREWhich FPL assets played the most minutes in 2021/22?

MANCHESTER CITY

  • As mentioned in our last piece, Pep Guardiola made the fewest substitutions per match (2.1) of any Premier League manager in 2021/22.
  • Kevin De Bruyne was the joint-most-substituted City player of last season, being withdrawn in nine of his 25 starts. Seven of those nine substitutions came after 70 minutes, with only two before 60 minutes. In seven of the nine times in which he was hooked, he had already delivered an attacking return.
  • City’s three first-choice orthodox full-backs Joao Cancelo, Kyle Walker and Oleksandr Zinchenko made 66 starts between them but were only substituted off on a combined two occasions, with Walker’s half-time withdrawal in Gameweek 3 the only full-back change prior to 60 minutes.
  • Changes at centre-half were more commonplace. Aymeric Laporte, the stopper who Guardiola shaped his central defensive partnerships around, was withdrawn on five occasions in energy preservation exercises. Not one of the five withdrawals came before the 60-minute mark but there were two close-run things in Gameweeks 34 and 36.
  • 46.4% of Riyad Mahrez‘s run-outs came off the bench, with only 10 of his 28 appearances lasting the course. Mahrez had one of the best points-per-start averages (6.9) in FPL last season but it was feast or famine with the Algerian, who registered nine one-pointers as a substitute.

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190 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Echoes
    • 2 Years
    1 month, 8 days ago

    Will Pope save Jesus' shot on target in fear of blasphemy?

  2. Red Red Robins
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 1 Year
    1 month, 8 days ago

    Afternoon all,

    If Son and KDB are same price, would you go KDB?

    1. Andy_Social
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      1 month, 8 days ago

      I would, yeh.

      1. Red Red Robins
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 8 days ago

        Really didnt think i would, but reading above and now Richarlson arriving could seriously cut into Sons minutes

        1. No Professionals
          • 5 Years
          1 month, 8 days ago

          Son is one of the best players in the league, his minutes aren't going to drop that much. If anything it should help him avoid injuries from being flogged (Kane also).

          1. Red Red Robins
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 1 Year
            1 month, 8 days ago

            Thats true, but also now that City have a no9 im thinking KDB assists go up

            1. Baines on Toast...
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              1 month, 8 days ago

              He will score fewer goals though

              1. Red Red Robins
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 1 Year
                1 month, 8 days ago

                Thats a fair point

                1. No Professionals
                  • 5 Years
                  1 month, 8 days ago

                  and he'll still be a minutes risk.

  3. FFS Ultras are for Kinnear
    • 9 Years
    1 month, 8 days ago

    "Kevin De Bruyne was the joint-most-substituted City player of last season, being withdrawn in nine of his 25 starts. Seven of those nine substitutions came after 70 minutes, with only two before 60 minutes. In seven of the nine times in which *he* was hooked, *he* had already delivered an attacking return."

    Have you asked him what pronoun he prefers?

    1. NateDog
      • 1 Year
      1 month, 8 days ago

      Thank goodness a new article is up, I'm not sure my brain could deal with thinking and accepting that anyone other than men can play sports at a professional level any longer.

    2. Tomerick
      • 8 Years
      1 month, 8 days ago

      Baby learned a new word?

    3. circusmonkey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      1 month, 8 days ago

      Omg, trouble is, some people would actually say that seriously, whereas I know you're only joking.

      1. Shattered Dreams
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        Would they though?

    4. Costa Nostra
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      1 month, 8 days ago

      What are you going on about??

      1. FFS Ultras are for Kinnear
        • 9 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        Why has FFS assigned the he pronoun to KDB?

        1. St Pauli Walnuts
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          1 month, 7 days ago

          Who’s that trip trapping over my bridge?

  4. Andy_Social
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    1 month, 8 days ago

    Thanks Skonto, an important article. As well as looking back, we have to look forward. The pattern evolving as far as I can see is that clubs like Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs are adding key players to their squad, thus we can expect a lot of subbing and rotating of high priced-assets, but at the same time City are shedding theirs. I wonder if we'll see less Peptation and more Contation, Artation and Tuchtation. Will this make Foden a more viable asset than a similarly-priced Kulusevski, Mount or Saka?

    1. Giggs Boson
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      1 month, 8 days ago

      Valuable article. Bookmark worthy.

      I'm surprised at how much Arteta rotated with such a thin squad and no Europe.

      Mount was the least rotated Chelsea asset, so I'd much rather him than Foden.

    2. Skonto Rigga
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 5 Years
      1 month, 8 days ago

      Thanks, Andy, agree with you. As mentioned towards the end of the article, there's that condensed autumn schedule for Spurs/City/Liverpool/Chelsea between GW4-15 (also the three Europa League clubs but they'll probably mostly play the second string) which will only further boost the prospect of all five subs being taken up.

      1. Giggs Boson
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        Don't the UCL sides often rotate during the group stage?

        1. Skonto Rigga
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 5 Years
          1 month, 8 days ago

          A little bit more so than in the PL and certaintly more minute-management in general, as they had five subs at their disposal in that competition last season. Liverpool also had the luxury of qualifying two games early last season and rotated thereafter.

    3. TheTinman
      • 6 Years
      1 month, 8 days ago

      It's interesting. There's a few ways you can look at it so different managers will use the extra subs differently over the season.

      But overall we should see a lower mean for the gametime of players at big teams, might not effect the smaller teams as much who have less options.

      We will have to reassess the effect on player minutes as patterns emerge.

      But for the moment it's probably better to play it safe.

    4. NateDog
      • 1 Year
      1 month, 8 days ago

      It's an interesting thought. I've already been thinking Grealish will have a good season especially with some of his direct competition leaving / possibly moving position. I'm actually now beginning to consider risking going for him early on if he looks like he's first choice at LW.

    5. TheTinman
      • 6 Years
      1 month, 8 days ago

      I said the other week I had a feeling about Grealish to start this year and it isn't going away!

      1. Giggs Boson
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        Mahrez and Foden seem way ahead in the pecking order.

        Also Grealish keeps getting pictured trashed on nights out, don't think Pep will appreciate that.
        Here's the latest:
        https://twitter.com/DrunkGreaIish/status/1539150147808120833?t=XTvsOLvOMA2tcixxIA4nyw&s=19

        I heard they're going to be playing Cole Palmer a lot more next season too, they really believe in him.

        1. TheTinman
          • 6 Years
          1 month, 8 days ago

          Oh god. What an idiot. I don't have twitter so didn't realise this was going on. I kind of had it in my head he would realise this is his big chance with Sterling gone and a push for the World Cup, but clearly not.

        2. Camzy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          1 month, 8 days ago

          I wouldn't read that much into footballers having nights out in the off-season.

        3. NateDog
          • 1 Year
          1 month, 8 days ago

          I don't see the issue in someone enjoying themselves in the off-season. If he's not doing it mid-season and turns up in shape and focused on football when the time for it comes around then what's the issue? Players were worse than this before social media and that was during the middle of the season. Foden supposedly wants to play on the right too and I'm never sure on Mahrez, last season people thought he was surely due to be first choice and then Pep played Torres at RW first followed by moving Jesus from CF to RW.

          1. Giggs Boson
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            1 month, 8 days ago

            I don't have a problem with it, just thought Pep might. Didn't he drop him last time he was filmed getting sloshed?

            But yeah, if they sell Sterling you'd think they'd buy a replacement for the left hand side to compete with Grealish anyway.

            1. NateDog
              • 1 Year
              1 month, 8 days ago

              I think it was something a bit bigger, that was mid-season and I think he and Foden both went out and came back in a bad state to training, and as well I think it was during the time of vigorous covid testing so players were supposed to be sticking within bubbles. I'm not sure if Alvarez is possibly going to rotate across the front 3, I believe he played at RW a handful of times so maybe he'd be another opinion but I think I read Sam Lee saying that despite the departures City aren't targeting anyone other than their initial targets (Haaland, Phillips and Cucurella).

              1. Andy_Social
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 9 Years
                1 month, 8 days ago

                And the new backup keeper.

  5. Runnerboy31
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 1 Year
    1 month, 8 days ago

    Liverpool fan looking for terrible fpl name to use this year - suggestions please?

    So far only thought of “Sadio to see you go”

    1. Critical Observer
      • 6 Years
      1 month, 8 days ago

      Some ideas:

      - ScalliesBJibbin'
      - TheQuadIsOn2023

    2. DelPiero10
        1 month, 8 days ago

        Sadiós

        1. The Knights Template
          • 8 Years
          1 month, 8 days ago

          Amigos

      • Skonto Rigga
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 5 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        Darwinian Selection

      • TheTinman
        • 6 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        Still Bin Dippin

      • Botman and Robben
        • 5 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        Broke with no Mane

      • Fpl stress
        • 4 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        Giving it in Diaz
        (Or something along them lines)

        1. No Professionals
          • 5 Years
          1 month, 8 days ago

          Matip in Diaz?

      • Ooh Ah Cantona
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 8 days ago

        Mo Mane mo problems

        1. No Professionals
          • 5 Years
          1 month, 8 days ago

          surely that is no mane mo problems

      • Jaws
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        Mane’s too tight to mention

      • Sloths
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        ManeManeMane

      • The Knights Template
        • 8 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        Darwin Award

        1. The Knights Template
          • 8 Years
          1 month, 8 days ago

          Actually I might use this mineself!

          1. ElliotJHP
            • 10 Years
            1 month, 8 days ago

            I'll use it too, strong team name template

            1. MyNameIsRedRo
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              1 month, 8 days ago

              I’ll also use it

              1. The Knights Template
                • 8 Years
                1 month, 8 days ago

                Darwin Awards for everyone!

      • Jimmers
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        No Mane No Cry

      • Tomerick
        • 8 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        No Mane Mo Problems

      • Jurgener Kop It
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        Pain in DIAZ

        1. Ooh Ah Cantona
          • 1 Year
          1 month, 8 days ago

          Nailed it ^

        2. sulldaddy
          • 12 Years
          1 month, 8 days ago

          Winner

      • im1974
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 8 days ago

        Tyres cheaper than bricks

      • St Pauli Walnuts
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        1 month, 7 days ago

        FPL_Salah

    3. Giggs Boson
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      1 month, 8 days ago

      Thanks Neale, fantastic article. Great that you included context underneath. There are so many mitigating factors surrounding minutes; like injuries, fixture congestion, lack of competition etc... Just have been a nightmare to process it all.

      For Cancelo to get so many minutes from Pep during the most congested season in history is astounding. With such unusually high xMins for a City player, it makes him super valuable.

      1. Skonto Rigga
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 5 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        Thanks, Giggs, glad you liked it 🙂 Cancelo really exceeded expectations on the minutes front last season, although Walker did spend quite a bit of time on the sidelines and Mendy was of course out of the equation early on. You'd think Cucurella would eat into Cancelo's minutes a bit in 2022/23 if he arrives.

      2. TheTinman
        • 6 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        Pep has been quoted saying Cancelo has unbelievable powers of recovery before too.

        "Of course he is playing really well [Cancelo]. Consistent. His physicality, he can recover really well and play three times a week. But still I have the feeling he can do better. Hopefully he is open to accept that and we can move forward." Nov 2021

    4. el polako
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      1 month, 8 days ago

      Finally the wait is over....
      Officially...

      One more day and from tomorrow....

      ....we can enjoy the finale of Stranger Things !!!

    5. Giggs Boson
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      1 month, 8 days ago

      With Kyle Walker now 32 and picking up more injures, can you see Cancelo moving to RB next season?

      Would help get more crosses into Haaland, and also explain the interest in Cucurella.

      1. Holmes
        • 8 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        If they do sign Cucurella, then Cancelo should get more gametime at RB.

        But wasnt there some theory/quotes which suggested that Pep avoids playing Mahrez and Cancelo on same side?

        1. Giggs Boson
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          1 month, 8 days ago

          That does sound familiar.

          Perhaps Foden is moving to the RW. Been hearing he wants to play there this season. Had a really good game there for England this year, putting in beautiful crosses from deep, Beckham esque.

          Sam Lee, from The Athletic is reliable:
          https://www.sportbible.com/city-xtra/phil-foden-manchester-city-pep-guardiola-position-premier-league-20220620

          Maybe it will be Grealish LW...

          1. No Professionals
            • 5 Years
            1 month, 8 days ago

            Foden is left footed, so not the natural thing to be putting in crosses from the right. City haven't naturally been a crossing from deep kind of team. Despite Haaland signing, I can't see them fundamentally changing that.

            1. Giggs Boson
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 10 Years
              1 month, 8 days ago

              I don't think he'll crossing from deep for City as much, although KDB does that all the time, it's more that a reliable source says he wants to play there. To quote the article:

              "As per a report by Sam Lee of the Athletic, sources close to Phil Foden have suggested that he would like to operate on the right-hand side of a front three in the 2022/23 season."

              It's where he had his best games as a youth player too. Seems likely to happen given Jesus' departure...

              1. No Professionals
                • 5 Years
                1 month, 8 days ago

                it would make sense, as it gives more opportunity to cut in on his strong foot more than anything.

                1. Andy_Social
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 9 Years
                  1 month, 8 days ago

                  With the arrival of Cucurella, it must mean some shorter minutes for Cancelo. With Stones not in the best of form, I think Laporte looks the most minutey defender, and being cheaper than Cancelo, he's likely to be my go-to.

                  1. Nomar
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 12 Years
                    1 month, 8 days ago

                    I was thinking this too.

            2. Lovren an elevator
              • 7 Years
              1 month, 8 days ago

              Kevin will likely play higher and more Right sided

          2. Lovren an elevator
            • 7 Years
            1 month, 8 days ago

            This looks/sounds spot on. And with 5 subs, there might be a more consistent starting 11 from Pep? Then just early hook offs.
            Maybe something like:
            Grealish Erling Foden
            Bilva Rodri Kevin
            Cucu Lap Dias Cancelo
            Ed

    6. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      1 month, 8 days ago

      What’s the attraction for Richarlison at Spurs- he is going to become very frustrated at being the sub to come on in many games

      1. Andy_Social
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        Y'know, i've not seen one single poster insist Richarlison is straight into his/her squad.

        1. No Professionals
          • 5 Years
          1 month, 8 days ago

          what relevance is that? A good real life signing and good FPL signing can be very different.

          1. Andy_Social
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            1 month, 8 days ago

            Um, on a Fantasy Football forum, it's kinda relevant.

            1. No Professionals
              • 5 Years
              1 month, 8 days ago

              you said it like it meant he was a bad signing for spurs

              1. Brimble82
                • 3 Years
                1 month, 8 days ago

                Is the general consensus that he's a good 'real life signing' for Spurs?
                I'm not sure he offers that much more in backup than Moura/Bergjiwn (noted Bergwijn is pushing for the exit door).
                But at £50-60m, I don't think I would say it's a great signing, no.
                Not a 'bad' signing per say.

                Just - meh.

                And no, he won't be troubling my fantasy football squad... aside from stripping mins from the SKK.

                1. Andy_Social
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 9 Years
                  1 month, 8 days ago

                  To be fair, he's in a Brazilian squad that will probably be favourites for the World Cup this winter.

                  1. Brimble82
                    • 3 Years
                    1 month, 8 days ago

                    Fair enough. And he has scored 4/4 in 2022.
                    Though let's be realistic - even you at your ripe old age could probably bag a brace against Bolivia Andy!

                    Maybe not at Estadio Hernando Siles as it sits at over 3,5k masl!
                    Fun fact; I took part in a televised penalty shoot out on that pitch prior to a Strongest v Bolivar Classico!
                    Second fun fact; nobody cares!

                2. Pasqualinho
                  • 13 Years
                  1 month, 8 days ago

                  It mirrors Liverpool when they bought Jota, I'd say. And that turned out ok.

                3. No Professionals
                  • 5 Years
                  1 month, 8 days ago

                  my view is that he is a good squad addition, can cover all 3 front positions and has a decent track record in a struggling team.

                  1. Brimble82
                    • 3 Years
                    1 month, 8 days ago

                    Can you say a team that qualifies for the CL are struggling?
                    I'd say that's a mark of success - especially when there's only realistically two CL spots up for grabs.

                    1. MyNameIsRedRo
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      1 month, 8 days ago

                      Everton were nearly relegated mate.

                      1. Brimble82
                        • 3 Years
                        1 month, 8 days ago

                        See below - misunderstanding.
                        I'm quite aware of the 21/22 PL table. Thanks though!

                    2. No Professionals
                      • 5 Years
                      1 month, 8 days ago

                      my point is he did well at Everton, so should do better with better players.

                      1. Brimble82
                        • 3 Years
                        1 month, 8 days ago

                        Sorry - my misunderstanding - I thought you were referring to Spurs as a struggling team.
                        Apologies.

      2. noquarternt
        • 7 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        He'll play a fair bit- they've got CL and Conte can't just play Kane Son and Kulu for 90 mins every game. Think its great for Spurs but not good for FPL.

    7. NateDog
      • 1 Year
      1 month, 8 days ago

      https://mobile.twitter.com/SkySports_Keith/status/1542484959474098178

      Spurs close to signing Djed Spence, in advanced talks now and hoping to complete the deal before the weekend

      1. Arteta
        • 6 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        Long term: Richarlison, Bissouma, Spence
        Short term: Perisic, Lenglet, Forster

        Spurs are having a decent transfer window, I'm not gonna lie. But how many of these are actually upgrades of their current players? Most of them seem like signings for squad depth.

        1. No Professionals
          • 5 Years
          1 month, 8 days ago

          yeah I think it is a decent squad building window.

        2. DavidBW
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 1 Year
          1 month, 8 days ago

          Arsenal need to catch up and stop taking a week to make a video to announce what we already know (Jesus)

          Get Teilemans in now, get Martinez in now. Get rid of the dross

          1. Fish up a tree
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 1 Year
            1 month, 8 days ago

            Yeah these 2 plus Gnabry would be nice!

        3. Andy_Social
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          1 month, 8 days ago

          Well Perisic, Lenglet and Bissouma are. I haven't seen Spence, but Doherty is inconsistent and Royal awful.

        4. TheBiffas
          • 1 Year
          1 month, 8 days ago

          That's what they needed really

        5. Lovren an elevator
          • 7 Years
          1 month, 8 days ago

          Yep only Perisic is likely to start out of that lot isn't he

      2. Fish up a tree
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 8 days ago

        Does Spence come straight in or will he be rotated with Doherty?

        I think only Son & Kane are viable options to start with…

        1. Andy_Social
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          1 month, 8 days ago

          I assume Doherty is first choice with Spence backup. But remember when Doh went missing for half a season? Could happen any time. I mean, fair enough if you own him you sell him, but both FPL player and club manager might struggle to judge when under par evolves into a disastrous slump. I'll be looking to defenders who are not just nail on minutes-wise, but are reliable year in year out.

          1. Santi MMT
            • 9 Years
            1 month, 8 days ago

            Doh might start the season but i rate Spence alot. He will eventually take over sooner than later

            1. Andy_Social
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              1 month, 8 days ago

              Presumably he'll be an okay price. Spurs go on a good run from GW8. That might be time to assess him and get him for a jettisoned Arsenal defender.

    8. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      1 month, 8 days ago

      Key #FPL Players not going to the FIFA 2022 World Cup:

      1. Freshy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        Erling Haaland
        Riyad Mahrez
        Mohamed Salah
        Andy Robertson
        Luis Diaz
        Dejan Kulusevski
        Jamie Vardy

        1. Andy_Social
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          1 month, 8 days ago

          Remind us in December - that's my Wildcard spine!

        2. DavidBW
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 1 Year
          1 month, 8 days ago

          Vardy will be 39 by then

          1. Tomerick
            • 8 Years
            1 month, 8 days ago

            Gotta keep playing to pay Rooney’s damages

        3. Freshy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          1 month, 8 days ago

          Joel Matip
          Matt Doherty
          Kieran Tierney
          Wilfried Zaha
          Michail Antonio

        4. mynameisq
          • 8 Years
          1 month, 8 days ago

          Lack of match fitness for these lot then!

          1. Ⓙⓐⓡⓥⓘⓢⓗ
            • 7 Years
            1 month, 8 days ago

            Yep, the best players to get after the WC fitness-wise should be those knocked out in the group stage/last 16 - they'll have a break, but not too long enough to be not match fit.

            1. MyNameIsRedRo
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              1 month, 8 days ago

              Great, looks like I’ll be getting Mount and Maddison again.

              1. Ⓙⓐⓡⓥⓘⓢⓗ
                • 7 Years
                1 month, 8 days ago

                Haven't you heard that it's coming home?

          2. Freshy
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            1 month, 8 days ago

            Or dead legs and an emotionally spent lot of returnees.

            1. Freshy
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              1 month, 8 days ago

              requiring time off

              1. Runnerboy31
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 1 Year
                1 month, 8 days ago

                Hadn’t realised Matip was retired - great news for Liverpool that we should have a rested spine to the team!

    9. el polako
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      1 month, 8 days ago

      What a win for Katie Boulter.

    10. NateDog
      • 1 Year
      1 month, 8 days ago

      https://mobile.twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1542531609064251392

      Barcelona contacted Leeds last night to make a verbal offer, still doesn't match their valuation. Leeds want to respect their agreement with Chelsea but no decision on Raphinha's side yet.

      1. mox81
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        You get the impression Raphinha really doesn't want to go to Chelsea, guess he'll have to get over that as sounds like nobody else will offer Leeds the same $$$

      2. Nomar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        Odd situation where it seems the club wants the player to go to Chelsea but the player really wants to go to Barcelona, and Arsenal want the player the most but won’t put up the readies needed to make it look like happening.

    11. thepuntmaster
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      1 month, 8 days ago

      https://www.newcastleworld.com/sport/football/newcastle-united/fantasy-premier-league-predicted-prices-and-positions-for-the-newcastle-united-squad-3751836

      Take on Newcastle United player prices here - interesting on the ASM position change. That could cause some surprises.

      1. Andy_Social
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        Don't think they know any more than us, but their punts are pretty much bang on in my book. I do fancy a pair of Ciaran Clarks at 4m each though 😉

      2. Baps hunter
        • 4 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        Thx. Still very unsure which players to target. Pope for example at 5.5 is bit too much for me, but I would be more than happy to get him at 5.0.

        1. Andy_Social
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          1 month, 8 days ago

          Their fixtures come good GW6. With Arsenal's turning nasty GW8 I'll be looking to jump on Newcastle assets in that period. Bruno could be same price or less than Odegaard, and the defenders could be priced the same. Trippier would probably be my first choice, but by then I'll have seen enough of them to make informed choices.

      3. CONNERS
        • 3 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        If you're likely to want Newcastle players as early as gw6, I'd consider starting with them.

        For a start you'll save the transfers, but more importantly you could find you're priced out of an easy move, especially if the likes of Wilson or Bruno G get a haul in the opening fixture against Forest.

        1. Nomar
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          1 month, 8 days ago

          This

        2. zeslinguer
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          1 month, 8 days ago

          would agree for attackers but I wouldn't start with the defenders

      4. Baines on Toast...
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        I think they are spot-on with the defenders but have overshot With Wilson for sure and possibly Bruno. I think Wilson Could even be 7.0

      5. Babit1967
        • 6 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        Think I’m starting with 2 dependant on prices.

        Pope at 5 m & Wilson at 7.5 will be in my starting team.

        1. Nomar
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          1 month, 8 days ago

          So, you’ll have neither of them in reality, then.

      6. Nomar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        Dwight Gayle really needs to read the leaves and get himself out of Toon and onto the books of a Championship club that needs a striker and has a chance of promotion next season.

        1. Monty the Magpie
          • 4 Years
          1 month, 8 days ago

          He's all yours for 50p.

          1. KujaliaFC
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            1 month, 8 days ago

            50p? That's a ripoff.

            Don't pay more than a farthing. Tuppence max.

      7. zeslinguer
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        I'd take it with a pinch of salt considering Hayden joined Norwich three weeks ago and apparently the author doesn't know lol

    12. Baines on Toast...
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      1 month, 8 days ago

      Richarlison price at Spurs will be interesting. Clearly not first choice but at a top team. I'd say 7.5, and very interesting if there's any injuries.

      1. Baps hunter
        • 4 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        Kane leaving? Could this be a possible sign of that happening? But where could he go now, since Haaland went to MCI.

        1. Andy_Social
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          1 month, 8 days ago

          No, of course not. But after many years, Spurs have a decent backup for him should he get injured. But BOT is right, if any of Kane, Son or Kulu get an injury that rules them out for a few GWs, Rich will suddenly be a major bandwagon.

          1. Baps hunter
            • 4 Years
            1 month, 8 days ago

            Yes. And I expect him to get usually about 20 minutes with 5 sub rule. Just to keep Son and Kulusevski fresh for example.

        2. Freshy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          1 month, 8 days ago

          MU would

          1. Baps hunter
            • 4 Years
            1 month, 8 days ago

            But if Kane wants to win CL for example, that doesn't sound like a sound transfer.

      2. Nomar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        Is it just me, or are Spurs FPL assets looking less and less appeal worthy the more players they keep buying in?

        1. Runnerboy31
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 1 Year
          1 month, 8 days ago

          We say this every year but it’s because we have a tendency to exaggerate how much new signing are going to play. Kane and Son are arguably the most effective partnership in PL history - they are still going to get the vast majority of minutes. Kulu maybe a different story. And bissouma doesn’t really change anything as Hojberg and Bentacur aren’t really fpl assets anyway.

    13. DavidBW
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      1 month, 8 days ago

      What I’m wondering with the new 5 subs rule is.

      Will the bookmakers be extending the odds on players scoring or getting yellow cards etc now there’s more chance of them being taken off early?

      1. KAPTAIN KANE’S SON
        • 5 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        They probably haven’t even thought about it

      2. Slouch87
        • 6 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        Why would they on the tissue ?

    14. KAPTAIN KANE’S SON
      • 5 Years
      1 month, 8 days ago

      One day to go 🙂 🙂 🙂

      1. Old Man
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        Yay - to the start of July. Whatever else did you mean?

        1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          1 month, 8 days ago

          first day there's a chance of FPL opening is what he meant

    15. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      1 month, 8 days ago

      if anyone is as bored as I am, rate this lot with no pool players (prices from LiveFPL)

      Raya
      Cancelo Chilwell Cash Tomiyasu
      KDB Saka Maddison Kulusevski
      Haaland Wilson

      1. Nomar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        I’m always interested to know what the bench is like on these teams.

        1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          1 month, 8 days ago

          pretty much none!

          4.0
          4.0
          4.5
          4.5

      2. Runnerboy31
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 8 days ago

        As a lfc fan I’d never go this way but if I did it looks strong. I think early season if I had this structure I’d be looking at a Mount / Havertz over Maddison - maybe funded by downgrading Cash

        1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          1 month, 8 days ago

          I'm very tempted to start with Cash - he's very attacking and Villa's fixtures are great.
          KDB, Maddison, Kulu
          could be
          Son, Mount, Foden

          1. Runnerboy31
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 1 Year
            1 month, 8 days ago

            Absolutely he’s a good shout - my current template has no space for a 5.5 so not looking at him.

            That said when I did my fixture analysis Villa came out as solid but not spectacular. First three games as tasty but then West Ham, Arsenal, City and Leicester in a row aren’t great for defensive assets.

    16. SADIO SANÉ
      • 7 Years
      1 month, 8 days ago

      If we find a defender that’s consistently being subbed at 60-70 mins, say Lamptey/James/Jonny/Perisic, does that actually make them better picks? Is a 65min Lamptey better than a 90min Lamptey?

      1. Steve The Spud
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 2 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        No I don’t think so

      2. theplayer
        • 8 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        No not at all. The risk is too high.

      3. Runnerboy31
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 8 days ago

        If you are very confident they reach 60 mins every time I’d say at best it’s neutral. Downsides:

        1. The players you mention - and most people it would be relevant for - are at least partially in your team for attacker returns, this is less time for those.

        2. Often the players that do 60-70 are more likely to get starts rotated and have 20-30 min camoes every few GWs.

        I’d say the Lamptey train is very much on pause for now anyway. He’s playing time was all over the place last season and for all his exciting play is actual attacking returns to date aren’t that dreamy at all.

      4. POTATO
        • 2 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        Does "90min Lamptey" exist?

        1. The Units
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          1 month, 8 days ago

          in his mind probably

    17. Steve The Spud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      1 month, 8 days ago

      It’s the natural evolution of modern football

      Packed schedules, clubs with tons of money, 5 subs… ‘play your best team every week’ will become less and less if you want to compete on 3-4 fronts, rotation central!

    18. Steve The Spud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      1 month, 8 days ago

      2 hours until the ‘has it launched yet’ posts can restart

      1. Runnerboy31
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 8 days ago

        Question - do we think / know if fpl have some sort of idea of how much they want the total prices of all players in the game to be.

        I ask because, for me very sadly, we look to be at most 12 months from Salah leaving fpl. When he does do all other medium priced / premiums have to get more expensive as suddenly you have a consistent 50% + owned super premium out of the game so everyone has more spare budget?

        Mane is a bit different as ownership was typically lower.

        1. Steve The Spud
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 2 Years
          1 month, 8 days ago

          No need to overthink it just play this season and see what happens

          1. Runnerboy31
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 1 Year
            1 month, 8 days ago

            Just intellectual curiousity

        2. The Units
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          1 month, 8 days ago

          I don't think fpl towers would have that as a metric to determine individual player prices. By next season new premiums will have emerged.

        3. KAPTAIN KANE’S SON
          • 5 Years
          1 month, 8 days ago

          There will be someone else at his price, always is and always will be

          1. KAPTAIN KANE’S SON
            • 5 Years
            1 month, 8 days ago

            Wasn’t RVP like 14m one year, Ronaldo too

        4. RogDog_jimmy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 1 Year
          1 month, 8 days ago

          think it's an interesting question - i bet there someone plotting graphs of the price distribution year-to-year.

          it gets tricky though because there are expensive players that become less owned, so I wonder how much the distribution effects the "buying power" of the $100m budget.

          1. The Units
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            1 month, 8 days ago

            They definitely price the popular picks (to varying degrees of success) in a way it makes it tough to have a balanced squad (if you want 2/3/4 premiums etc) and decisions have to be made.

        5. mox81
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          1 month, 8 days ago

          They won't care too much about total of all players as that's fairly immaterial. However they definitely have to price players relatively to get a good distribution of prices. You could ask what the effect of Haaland is coming in as surely he'll be an additional high-ownership premium. But Lukaku is gone etc, as is Mane to a lesser extent.

          Don't forget across the season it varies anyway - I finished last season with Son, KDB and Salah comfortably in my squad, with Cancelo, Dias, TAA and James at the back, and that wasn't uncommon. No way we'll be able to start next season with such luxury!

    19. BrockLanders
      • 7 Years
      1 month, 8 days ago

      Goodness. These pages are moving at a snails pace.

      Badly need the game launch tomorrow

      1. FFS Ultras are for Kinnear
        • 9 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        Take a moment to think how the mods have survived the previous month

    20. The Knights Template
      • 8 Years
      1 month, 8 days ago

      Putting together a disco team (playing with a back three):

      GK: Gloria Gaynor
      DEF: The Bee Gees
      MID: Amii Stewart, Donna Summer (c), Boney M, CHIC
      FWD: Diana Ross, KC&The Sunshine Band, Soft Cell

      Bench is fodder. Boney M defensive mid, Soft Cell a new wave differential. Grateful thoughts before I finalise.

      1. noquarternt
        • 7 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        Lots of points coming from all over the pitch there I reckon

      2. Andy_Social
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        FGB -- Fantasy Glitterball.

      3. The Units
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        Too much Boney M, would bring in the Village People to leap off the bench when needed.

        1. The Knights Template
          • 8 Years
          1 month, 8 days ago

          Very good call

      4. Chilli Heatwave
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        Disappointed not to see disco stu

        1. The Knights Template
          • 8 Years
          1 month, 8 days ago

          Will put him on the bench! He deserves a shot.

      5. POTATO
        • 2 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        Will Donna Summer and Boney M be able to replicate their form from the DDL (Deutsch Disco League)

        1. The Knights Template
          • 8 Years
          1 month, 8 days ago

          More worried about Giorgio Moroder rotation

          1. POTATO
            • 2 Years
            1 month, 8 days ago

            Notoriously he will replace one with the other at half time. Might only get a 45 from each.

      6. Galza-The Wanton Trader
        • 5 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        I’m surprised to see you haven’t included Gladys Knight in there. 🙂

        1. The Knights Template
          • 8 Years
          1 month, 8 days ago

          Already have a keeper, Galza.

          1. Galza-The Wanton Trader
            • 5 Years
            1 month, 8 days ago

            Fair enough, but with the Pips beside her, I don’t see her conceding many…

            1. DARWIN'S DINOSAURS
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              1 month, 8 days ago

              Jeez guys! Why don't you include Beethoven's wife?

    21. ᴋiɴɢ
      • 4 Years
      1 month, 8 days ago

      Its July 1, Has the game launched yet

      1. The Units
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        no

    22. FFS Ultras are for Kinnear
      • 9 Years
      1 month, 8 days ago

      It's 4am. Has the game launched yet?

      1. The Knights Template
        • 8 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        You didn’t check?

      2. Wild Card this!
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        1 month, 8 days ago

        Tomorrow, same time. Stay tuned.

    23. Tomerick
      • 8 Years
      1 month, 8 days ago

      Can’t believe it actually went live at 4am! What a ride!

    24. Lindelol
      • 4 Years
      1 month, 8 days ago

      Richarlison joins Spurs.