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  1. ☈☾
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Apart from Beyer, any other 4m Burnley defender that is nailed? or perhaps from a different team?

    1. leo_messi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Bell (LUT) then Baldock (SHU)

    2. sirmorbach
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      I think Baldock (Sheffield United) is the most likely, with Bell (Luton) as an option as well. But Beyer the most nailed indeed apparently.

    3. The Knights Template
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Bell has a DGW in hand if that helps (ps. It helps).

      1. SpaceCoyote97
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        So does Beyer though.

    4. teddy.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Gusto for when James inevitably gets injured

  2. sirmorbach
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Couple of questions, please:

    1) Predicted price for Diaby?
    2) Best midfielders/enablers at 6.0 or less? I was set on Andreas but was told he isn't fully fit. Same for Jacob Ramsey. Enciso's minutes a concern.

  3. FPL Virgin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    This is what we've been waiting for.

    1. The Knights Template
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      I may have said this before but Madonna is very hirsute,

      1. Debauchy
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        The amount of times Madonna has reinvented herself more like kama kama kama Chamelion

  4. Drop Dead Tsimikas
    • 14 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Dissect 'er away, boys.

    Pickford - Areola
    TAA - Shaw - Gabriel - Bell - Gusto
    Salah - Saka - Bruno - Mitoma - Ahamada
    Haaland - Wissa - Mubama

    1. Sure You Did
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Keepers shite
      Defence after Gabriel shite
      Mids good
      Forwards good

      Consider yourself dissected.

    2. Totalfootball
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Salah pick is good , i am having difficulty fitting him in

  5. Ask Yourself
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    I was going to go for Ederson at 5.5m but for the same price I could go for a Martínez and Johnstone rotation lol what do we think of this run GW1-8

    shu
    EVE
    bur
    WOL
    CPL
    FUL
    BHA
    NFO/wol

    1. The Knights Template
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      We, lol, love it!

    2. teddy.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Rotation with Brentford would be even better if you want Palace.

    3. The Mentaculus
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Anyone but Ederson! 😀
      Yeah that looks pretty good

    4. Hotdogs for Tea
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      I think Ederson is a going under the radar this year ... City defence looks physically strong & rejuvenated and they could be back up to 20+ clean sheets this season

      1. The Mentaculus
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        5 save points all season. 5!

      2. x.jim.x
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        At this moment, it's the same defence that only managed 13 cleansheets (11 from Ederson), except with a worse midfield in front of it.

        1. Hotdogs for Tea
          • 10 Years
          2 years, 7 months ago

          It is a fully fit defence, last season there were lots on injuries and Cancelo was loaned out. If Josko Gvardiol joins ...

          I can see City getting 20 clean sheets again so that means 155 - 160 points from him.

          1. The Mentaculus
            • 4 Years
            2 years, 7 months ago

            So a little less than what Raya scored last season with 11 CS. That's the issue for me

            1. Hotdogs for Tea
              • 10 Years
              2 years, 7 months ago

              For sure yes, but it's a new season and can't see Raya dong so well or Ederson do so badly ... both flukes imho

          2. x.jim.x
            • 11 Years
            2 years, 7 months ago

            Who was injured? Dias 1997 mins, Akanji 2286, Ake 1877, Stones 1848, Walker 1956… these are all standard City numbers due to rotation.

            Cancelo isn’t contributing to any cleansheets so his loan is irrelevant. Gvardiol hasn’t even signed yet (and may not) and will need time to bed in.

            Ederson is a poor shot-stopper - as long as he is there, their defence will always be suspect.

            1. Hotdogs for Tea
              • 10 Years
              2 years, 7 months ago

              Injured - Dias 4 weeks, Ake 5, Stones 8, Laporte 7, Walker 6.

              Loaned out - Cancelo

              1. x.jim.x
                • 11 Years
                2 years, 7 months ago

                There were only ever 2 games where they had 2 of the above out at the same time - Stones and Walker for GW10 and 11. City have huge squad depth and these tiny injury periods (longest stretch being Laporte who isn't even first choice) are a pretty poor excuse to cover up the fact Ederson conceded 6 more than he should have.

                1. Hotdogs for Tea
                  • 10 Years
                  2 years, 7 months ago

                  You asked who was injured so I told you. It was quite disruptive and injured players rarely slot straight back into Pep's high intensity starting 11. and if they do that struggle a bit. City didn't keep the number of clean sheets last season that they normally do and my only point is that they may resort back to their norm of 20+ clean sheets with a fully fit and available back line.

                  Also, Stones was often used in midfield.

                  When Walker was injured City didn't really have a full back at all (Lewis starting because City literally had no one else).

                  My point is that it was disruptive and quite unsettled at the back for City and that it should be (relatively considering Pep's rotation) a bit more settled.

                  When City kept 20 ? Clean sheets the season before it was a lot more settled with Dias 2,400, Laporte 2,800, Cancelo 3,200 mins the with Stones and Walker both on 1,800 mins.

                  I believe it will be a lot more settled this season with a full contingent of defenders and maybe a few more signed, and that can only help the number of clean sheets City will keep.

                  1. Birds of Prey
                    • 12 Years
                    2 years, 7 months ago

                    Which is why Ederson makes much sense. Though he was injured too, what can you do?

                  2. x.jim.x
                    • 11 Years
                    2 years, 7 months ago

                    Why would it be more settled with players leaving and new ones coming in?

                    You keep ignoring my point that none of this matters because Ederson is a poor shot-stopper.

                    1. Hotdogs for Tea
                      • 10 Years
                      2 years, 7 months ago

                      I don't think Ederson is a poor shot stopper, but taking you as correct for poor shot stopper he has still had these clean sheets in the last few seasons ... 16, 20, 16, 19, 16, 20 and then 11 last season which is an outlier.

                      If Ederson gets 16 to 21 clean sheets as he has done so for 6 of the last 7 seasons, then he is on for 150+ points and a set and forget. There may be another Raya this season but it's not a given.

                      City may still concede as they did last season but it wasn't the total goals conceded that was the issue it was the single goal that sneaked in which is as much to do with defending as it is with his shot stopping.

                      For the all the above, I believe Ederson is still a good pick that is largely being ignored and he is going under the radar.

                      1. The Mentaculus
                        • 4 Years
                        2 years, 7 months ago

                        Wow this thread is still going. Perhaps I can end it by delving back further into Ederson's save points and rank among all GK:
                        22/23 5pts = 25th
                        21/22: 7pt = 24th
                        20/21: 12pts = 17th

                        Even if there's a massive uptick in CS, he's still very likely to be outscored by cheaper GKs with half the number of CS because he just can't compete on save points

                      2. Andy_Social
                        • 13 Years
                        2 years, 7 months ago

                        I'm coming around to Ederson as a good bet for clean sheets with City's opening fixtures. I can always bank some cash by downsizing him to an outstanding 5m or 4.5, but we don't know who that will be yet.

                      3. x.jim.x
                        • 11 Years
                        2 years, 7 months ago

                        Ederson underperformed his PSxG massively last season. Only Meslier, Ward, Sa, Travers and Bazunu were worse - he was literally putting up relegation-level performances last season.

                        This has nothing to do with defending - he is not a good shot-stopper, I don’t know how you can’t see that.

                      4. Andy_Social
                        • 13 Years
                        2 years, 7 months ago

                        Points matter, number of shots stopped is subservient to that. I'm willing to see last season as an outlier as Hotdogs indicates.
                        Having said that, I haven't altered my draft - I'm just considering it. It would only be if Foden seems more uncertain of starts that I'd add Ederson.

                      5. Hotdogs for Tea
                        • 10 Years
                        2 years, 7 months ago

                        I am not arguing whether he is a good shot stopper or not, my point is that in 6 of the last 7 seasons (before last season) he has averaged 18 clean sheets I think.

                        The number of saves City made in the last 7 PL seasons is 60, 62, 69, 65, 58, 62, 64.

                        Is last season an outlier ?

                        Will Ederson again rack up clean sheets ?

                        I just think he is being ignored on last season's PL results whereas he has been a very good asset for the previous 6 seasons.

                      6. x.jim.x
                        • 11 Years
                        2 years, 7 months ago

                        Ederson has never been the highest-scoring keeper despite being the most expensive and has only been the highest-scoring City player once (by 3 points).

      3. Sure You Did
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Prefer Stones, he is now the only one I would consider.

  6. Charlie Price
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    The Charlie Price H2H League
    Code k7hzh6

    For those who may not be aware I have created the above league aimed at those who may wish to joi n an invitational H2H league.
    Some of you are probably already in the Scout h2h pyramid (will be trying to claw my way out of division 7 this season) but differently my league is a stand alone single division event. Bit like the Grand National but with 38 (weekly) obstacles and hopefully a much bigger field! Luck of the draw will determine your weekly opponent. All part of the fun.
    Hoping this proves popular given that there are not too many h2h leagues out there compared to the Classic scoring variety.
    Please join if this appeals. Thank you.

    1. The Knights Template
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      I’m aware!

      1. Debauchy
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        *Screams from the dungeon

      2. FPL Brains
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Lol

    2. Sure You Did
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Tell me more.

  7. I Member
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Where did Foden play in the game today?

  8. FF Dirtbag
    • 14 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Why is no one picking Jota? Has he been playing in the pre?

    1. teddy.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Even if he plays preseason it looks like 2 from 4 out of Darwin, Jota, Gakpo and Diaz

      1. FF Dirtbag
        • 14 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Ahh so uncertainty?

        1. Sure You Did
          • 2 Years
          2 years, 7 months ago

          Only Pool mid nailed until we see otherwise is Salah

    2. The Mentaculus
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      If I had to guess now, I think Diaz would probably start ahead of him. But I may hop on one of them for GW2 once I see who starts at Chelsea

      1. Baps Hunter
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        That's the issue. Seeing who starts vs Che doesn't necessarily tell us who starts vs Bou 🙁

        1. The Mentaculus
          • 4 Years
          2 years, 7 months ago

          No guarantees, I know. Would just be a one week punt if I go for my WC5 plan (which is kind of all about taking some early risks)

    3. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      No guarantees he starts-
      Díaz Gakpo Salah likely front 3

  9. x.jim.x
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Kevin De Bruyne: plays 0 minutes in a preseason friendly

    Resident troll: "BREAKING: KDB IS FIT"

    1. Sure You Did
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      But he says he is not a troll which is more worrying if that is said persons standard thought process and character. No judgement though. People are different. Just some more on the spectrum than others.

  10. Debauchy
    • 13 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Hang in Harman , love a lesser known to clinch a Major

  11. Stamford B
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    The only thing I’ve taken from any pre season so far is how fit Utd looked yesterday. Even though it was only 45 mins they look ahead of anything else I’ve seen. Come to think of it, I haven’t actually watched many games lol. Anyway, it can be a good sign. Arsenal were the same last season, nobody really fancied them and the came out of the blocks flying.

    1. Sure You Did
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Main thing I’ve seen is Mount deep and Bruno forward. That’s all I wanted to see. Everything else is irrelevant to me as no more decisions to be made, today.

      1. Stamford B
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        I want to watch Brentford later. Hopefully Flekken starts and have a little look at Wissa.

        1. Sure You Did
          • 2 Years
          2 years, 7 months ago

          I have Flekken so good call. If he isn’t starting I will need to switch. I am assuming Rays will be gone or on bench.

          1. Stamford B
            • 4 Years
            2 years, 7 months ago

            Who’s your second choice?

            1. Sure You Did
              • 2 Years
              2 years, 7 months ago

              Strackosh or whatever his name is. I was told he would be second choice if I ignored Rays but time will tell and may need to change.

              1. Stamford B
                • 4 Years
                2 years, 7 months ago

                No I meant if Raya starts will you go with him or a different 4.5?

                1. Sure You Did
                  • 2 Years
                  2 years, 7 months ago

                  I will go with someone else as friendlies are used to embed the team. If Rays starts with most of the main team then that’s a red flag to me and would force me to change

                  1. Stamford B
                    • 4 Years
                    2 years, 7 months ago

                    If Raya is number I might well go with him, ideally I want a 4.5. There isn’t really a standout option for me at the moment though.

                    1. Sure You Did
                      • 2 Years
                      2 years, 7 months ago

                      Better with Pinnock and the Brighton keeper. That’s what I would probably go down.

                      1. Stamford B
                        • 4 Years
                        2 years, 7 months ago

                        Yeah Steele is definitely on the radar. My problem with him though is Brighton tend to dominate teams and score a lot of goals. Cuts down on his bonus a save potential a bit.

                      2. Sure You Did
                        • 2 Years
                        2 years, 7 months ago

                        Think I checked and there was a 10 save difference. Could be wrong though

      2. Baps Hunter
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        That is causing me problems, Mount has to go if Bruno is much more advanced also in the future.

        1. Sure You Did
          • 2 Years
          2 years, 7 months ago

          It might change. Only information I have to date though…

          1. George Sillett
            • 10 Years
            2 years, 7 months ago

            If you don't mind me asking what caused the sudden personality change ? ( You know who I am despite the username change )

            1. Sure You Did
              • 2 Years
              2 years, 7 months ago

              Not really a personality change tbh. I was being a bit of a wind up merchant for the sake of it although a fair few things I did agree with, my delivery was more the issue. I couldn’t and wouldn’t keep it up, don’t have the energy tbh

              1. Sure You Did
                • 2 Years
                2 years, 7 months ago

                You replied to one of my comments and I agree with you, I stand behind what I said about he who will not be spoken. It just takes too much energy to be negative and not good for mental health.

              2. George Sillett
                • 10 Years
                2 years, 7 months ago

                Good for you. There has only been one on here who I can't abide but that's down to truthfulness which is a non negotiable trait for me. If he refrains from growing up I will just ignore in future

    2. Kevin and Perry go
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Apologies in advance but he’s a proper king Richard sorry.

  12. Baps Hunter
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    "Fernandes, for example, again started in a more advanced role than Mason Mount (£7.0m) – although there were still instances when the former dropped deep and the latter sauntered forward."

    This is something to follow. After today it looks like getting Mount over Bruno is not the best idea. However, it's too early to tell. Heatmap over those would have been more important than AWB's.

    1. The Mentaculus
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Also still with Mainoo in the pivot. Want to see how they line up with Casemiro

      1. Nate(U)dog(ie)
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        I've read really positive things about Mainoo since preseason began, wonder if he may get around that first team this season

        1. Sure You Did
          • 2 Years
          2 years, 7 months ago

          He will be Cas back up IMO

    2. Bluetiger1
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      would you go Fernandes or Rashford?

  13. Totalfootball
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Really having difficulty deciding between Martinelli or Foden ?

    PS - Have Haaland Saka

    1. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      I want 3 from both City and Arsenal

      1. Baps Hunter
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        And how many from MU?

        1. The Bandit
          • 15 Years
          2 years, 7 months ago

          I also have 3 of them atm 😀

          1. Andy_Social
            • 13 Years
            2 years, 7 months ago

            Same here. A triple triple.

          2. George Sillett
            • 10 Years
            2 years, 7 months ago

            Any Liverpool WR ?

            1. The Bandit
              • 15 Years
              2 years, 7 months ago

              Nope. That’s my biggest concern, will likely hop on once preferred line up becomes clearer and fixtures improve.

              1. George Sillett
                • 10 Years
                2 years, 7 months ago

                3 City ( Haaland Kev Foden)
                2 Arses Timber & Saka
                2;Mancs Shaw & Bruno

                So far for me. Pretty pointless as I'm bound to change it

                1. The Bandit
                  • 15 Years
                  2 years, 7 months ago

                  Early WC for me I reckon, I think Chelsea and Liverpool will be great, maybe Spurs attack too.

                  1. George Sillett
                    • 10 Years
                    2 years, 7 months ago

                    I have Chilwell & Nkunku but as you say Spurs attack a definite close watch

    2. Baps Hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Martinelli over Foden imo. Having Saka doesn't matter, he plays on different flank, no cover theory helps you there.

    3. Stamford B
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Martinelli easily out of those two imo.

    4. Totalfootball
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      thanks all

  14. Strchld
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Why no-one interested Bowen?

    1. Sure You Did
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      I think they have tough fixtures and better options. He was in mine at some point.

    2. The Mentaculus
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      I am a little, although not too excited by WHUs opening fixtures. If I go with my WC5 plan I will probably get him for Luton

    3. teddy.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      I am. Was already and he seems to be in good preseason form too.

    4. Nate(U)dog(ie)
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      I was interested in Paqueta or Bowen but I've seen a few West Ham fans saying they expect this to be a pretty bad season, it's put me off

    5. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Too many better options in midfield

  15. Lee8686
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Anyone else considering Bowen as a differential? I think he has huge upside at 7m

    He underperformed his stats last season and I can't see west ham being as shocking this season

    1. Sure You Did
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      See above

      1. Lee8686
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Haha as if!! Thatll teach me for typing so slow

  16. Pylynen
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Thoughts on my current draft?

    Flekken
    Gabriel Saliba Estu
    Salah Rashford Martinelli Mitoma Mbeumo
    Haaland Nkunku

    Areola Baldock Bell Archer

    1. Sure You Did
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Can’t fault it. Apart from Flekken needs confirmed

      1. Sure You Did
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        And your bench is utter shite

        1. DavvaMC
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          2 years, 7 months ago

          2 playing 4M defenders looks good to me.

    2. Baps Hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Bench is too week and I personally don't like having both Mbeumo and Mitoma. But that's the cost of having Salah, I guess. For Salah team even good, I think.

    3. Kevin and Perry go
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Not bad at all, salah eats the funds I’ve not got him in at the min him hland and kdb just munch the money.

  17. Bobby Digital
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    A. Shaw Salah Wissa
    B. TAA Foden Jesus

    1. Nate Ate Cake
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      B for me

    2. Sure You Did
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Swap Shaw with Chillwell and A. I have WanB, as I love punishment

      1. Bobby Digital
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Yeah I think I'll start with Salah. Easier to move from him than to move to him...

    3. LangerznMash
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      B

    4. Bluetiger1
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      B

  18. Nate Ate Cake
    • 12 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Anyone tempted by Joao Pedro after the performance against Chelsea? I felt like he was standout in the mach for Brighton and only at 5.5m

    1. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      No- with Enciso, Ferguson, Welbeck, Undav, Pedro just cannot guarantee playing time

    2. Kevin and Perry go
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      For a brief time I was thinking about it. That comment is the same conclusion I came to.

    3. Kevin and Perry go
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Probs end up getting a goal and assist at Luton for a twenty min cameo.

  19. Totalfootball
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Rate 1 2 3

    Jesus Martinelli Odegaard

    1. Alan The Llama
      • 16 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      My first is in Beethoven but not in Vienna.

      1. Lovren an elevator
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        1. Marty
        2. Ode or Jesus

    2. Sure You Did
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Mart, Ode, Jesus

    3. Baps Hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      2-3-1

    4. Stranger Mings
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      In that order

  20. dunas_dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Martinelli
    Ødegaard
    Jesus

    1. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      * failed reply to totalfootball

  21. SpaceCoyote97
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Man Utd having a guy called Mainoo will never not be great.

    1. SpaceCoyote97
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      It's like an American saying "Man U"

    2. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Not understanding your comment but Mainoo lots of potential but probably not this season

      1. SpaceCoyote97
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Yeah, he seems to be of quality. The joke is that his name sounds a lot like "Man U", especially if you say it with an accent.

  22. Lovren an elevator
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Do we think with the addition to Mount, Bruno is likely to start further forward or further back?

    1. Sure You Did
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Mount deep and Bruno forward is what has been shown to date

      1. Lovren an elevator
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        So this explains why:
        A. No-one is looking at Mount
        B. People are going as far as deliberating who is better to have, Bruno or Rashy

        1. Sure You Did
          • 2 Years
          2 years, 7 months ago

          Bruno is best option in my opinion.

          1. Lovren an elevator
            • 10 Years
            2 years, 7 months ago

            This is interesting...even more than Rashford? Can I ask why?

            1. Sure You Did
              • 2 Years
              2 years, 7 months ago

              I don’t rate Rash, Bruno is a much better player and on pens.

              1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
                • 16 Years
                2 years, 7 months ago

                And yet Rashford got 205 FPL points third in last seasons list for midfielders just behind - Odegaard and Salah.
                At one stage last season Rashford was so consistent he was an obvious treble captain chip pick - got a big score for me

                1. Sure You Did
                  • 2 Years
                  2 years, 7 months ago

                  Her was never consistent, I think you need to review the data.

              2. Dennis System
                • 7 Years
                2 years, 7 months ago

                'I don't rate Rash'

                Get in the bin

    2. Hotdogs for Tea
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      No one really knows but Mount is at his best attacking so I can't see Mount being in any way defensive no matter where Bruno plays

      1. Baps Hunter
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Yet he played deeper tha Bruno (who scored, thx to Ramsdale). I'll go to check their heat maps.

        1. Hotdogs for Tea
          • 10 Years
          2 years, 7 months ago

          I wouldn't read too much into it, both will be attacking and Mount ghosting in a few seconds later and behind Bruno doesn't sound too bad and probably provides for more space for Mount

      2. Lovren an elevator
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        They could go almost 4141 when they both play together?

      3. Sure You Did
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        People do know. To date. He has played deep and Bruno further forward

        1. Hotdogs for Tea
          • 10 Years
          2 years, 7 months ago

          How many times & minutes have they played together and does that set their positions in stone ? Did Mount ever run and get beyond Bruno ?

          Also what position did Mount play in the previous 2 friendlies?

          We really do not know how it will all work out and I doubt Mount will be sitting and tucking in behind Bruno

          1. Sure You Did
            • 2 Years
            2 years, 7 months ago

            Based on friendlies to date, based on what we know, as detailed previously, Mount is deeper and Bruno further forward. I honestly don't care about your questions as it is irrelevant to me. Who's deep and who's is forward is as simple as I need to know, for now. It may change but as of now, I know what I need to know.

            1. Hotdogs for Tea
              • 10 Years
              2 years, 7 months ago

              Friendlies ? How many games have they actually played together to deduce that Bruno will be in advance of Mount ?

              1. Sure You Did
                • 2 Years
                2 years, 7 months ago

                No offence but I can't make it any simpler and they don't need to play together to devise the formation and where they sit. In the friendlies, Mount has been in the deeper role. regardless if Bruno has been there or not. Mount has also commented on this. You do what you want to do, it is fine. I will use the data that has been provided to date.

                1. Hotdogs for Tea
                  • 10 Years
                  2 years, 7 months ago

                  Bruno Fernandes: "I was talking with Tom [Heaton] that there was a lot of space behind them. The swap between Mason [Mount], Kobbie [Mainoo] and me was good. We ended up in different positions, but they were occupied and we created the goal."

                  1. Sure You Did
                    • 2 Years
                    2 years, 7 months ago

                    Great, you provided a quote. I watched the friendlies. Honestly if you want to get Mount, get Mount ffs. I don't care that much.

                    1. Hotdogs for Tea
                      • 10 Years
                      2 years, 7 months ago

                      I am not arguing about getting one or the other, simply pointing out that you can't base too much on friendlies and just because Bruno may be standing ahead or Mount at kickoff doesn't mean they take up that position during the game, which is exactly what has happened as identified in this article and by Bruno himself.

                      Personally I think they will interchange, and Mount could be more dangerous coming from a deeper position and running past Bruno than Bruno in a more crowded zone of the pitch.

                      I don't think it's a case of 'People do know. To date. He has played deep and Bruno further forward', but if that is your take on it I respect that.

                      1. Sure You Did
                        • 2 Years
                        2 years, 7 months ago

                        Yeah sorry, tone doesn't come across well over messages. I am not saying it is set in stone but based on what I have seen. Bruno will naturally be further forward and Mount deeper. This may change though and sometimes they will swap but I am looking for the natural position where they will mostly spend their time. Wouldn't mind saving 1.5M tbh.

                2. Hotdogs for Tea
                  • 10 Years
                  2 years, 7 months ago

                  Fernandes, for example, again started in a more advanced role than Mason Mount (£7.0m) – although there were still instances when the former dropped deep and the latter sauntered forward.

                  1. Sure You Did
                    • 2 Years
                    2 years, 7 months ago

                    "some instances".

                3. Hotdogs for Tea
                  • 10 Years
                  2 years, 7 months ago

                  I think you should get the drift ... literally 🙂

  23. teddy.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    I watched the Man U-Arsenal game. So here are my scout notes.

    Firstly the caveat that you can't read too much into preseason. Overall I thought both teams showed flashes of brilliance, but also showed shambolic lack of focus at times. Utd wanted it more and were much more aggressive without the ball.

    I think the Arsenal selections were much more informative in terms of probable first choice line-ups. I wouldn't be surprised to see the following come gw1:

    Ramsdale
    White Saliba Gabriel Tierney
    Rice
    Odegaard Havertz
    Saka Jesus Martinelli

    That was the starting line-up for this match, other than the fullbacks and striker positions, where Timber, Tomiyasu and Nketiah started but made way for those above in their respective positions.

    With the three new signings, I was most impressed with Rice, who seemed confident and assertive. I thought both Havertz and Timber looked a bit out of their depth, but no more than anyone else would being thrown into a preseason match for Arsenal vs Utd.

    I thought Tomiyasu looked very good. He was on his wrong side, but seemed pretty comfortable playing with his left foot. I expect the LB position will be between Zinchenko and Tierney though, and Tierney also looked very good when he came on.

    Utd were harder to read. They didn't field a side that looked like first choice in either half. In the first half they were something like

    Heaton
    AWB Varane Martinez Shaw
    Mainoo Mount
    Anthony Bruno Garnacho
    Sancho

    But Mainoo and Mount were both getting forward and joining the attack. And the fullbacks were too. I don't know if this was fluid interchange of positions or disorganised lack of discipline. Either way Shaw, Bruno and Fernandes looked good. Eriksen looked the pick of the second half team.

    1. Lovren an elevator
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Do you think if they both start, Bruno will be further forward than Mount, or vice versa?
      (Also, I'm guessing they're both quite nailed together?)

      1. ☈☾
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Just what I personally think:

        Mount will play deeper against strong teams but bomb forward against weaker/low block teams

      2. teddy.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Who knows! But I reckon Bruno further forward.

      3. Sure You Did
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Bruno will always be further ahead, based on data we have to date.

        1. Lovren an elevator
          • 10 Years
          2 years, 7 months ago

          Nice one, thanks for the input

          1. Sure You Did
            • 2 Years
            2 years, 7 months ago

            Always is too strong. Based on what we know now

    2. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 16 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Well I am going to double up on the Arsenal defence - hopefully Sailba and Ramsdale have got those silly mistakes out of their system.

      1. x.jim.x
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        It was Gabriel and the bozo gene is permanent.

    3. FPL Brains
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      One thing I'd caveat with this analysis is the thoughts around all 3 Arsenal signings. It's preseason, so we'll take it with a pinch of salt but Timber looked hopeless positionally, Havertz was way out of his depth playing in a new position and Rice was completely pocketed by an 18 year old.

      None of which look anywhere worthy of the fantastic Arsenal side from last season. Havertz, Timber > Partey, White might be the answer, but that doesn't say much about the new recruits.

      1. George Sillett
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Wow . I didn't watch it but this is very illuminating

      2. teddy.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Agree about Havertz and Timber, but thought Rice made some great interceptions and tackles, and was pivotal in passing movement through the midfield. Great positioning and reading the game. Very relaxed. I expect he will up the intensity in competitive fixtures and be a real asset. Must have been watching a different game... Perhaps because it was a friendly he wasn't switched on the whole time and had a few lapses? But I saw lots of good things.

    4. Joey Jo-Jo Junior Shabadoo
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      For Arsenal, it was just another step towards gaining full fitness and full-paced understanding of a totally new midfield (dynamic).
      I thought Timber was actually really good. But Rice was pretty awful albeit probably due to Havertz who was also very poor. The gaps left unoccupied in the middle by those 2 will be a huge concern for Arteta and I think you will see more of Partey as pre-season ramps up or at least some sort of fix for that.

  24. Lovren an elevator
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Burnley fans (if there are any of you) is Vitinho likely to start many games oop?

    1. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      They can’t read 😉

      1. Lovren an elevator
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Damn it, I didn't think of that

        1. The Bandit
          • 15 Years
          2 years, 7 months ago

          They can count to 12 using their fingers though

    2. Le Nick
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Hard to say at moment, depends if we sign another left-back. If Roberts is fit then he should start at right-back. When Vitinho does play tho, he usually plays very high up.

      1. Lovren an elevator
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        So he could start at LB? I thought that was Taylor?

  25. Eat my goal!
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Did Kdb play today?

    1. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Bench, but didn’t play

  26. panda07
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    This Open has been a bit of a damp squid of a golf tournament. Harman has led from the gecko. For all intensive purposes the tournament was over after day two. The other players failed to go for the juggler

    1. Alan The Llama
      • 16 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Don't make them the escape goat.

      1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
        • 16 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        No one deserves to made the sacrilegious lamb.....

    2. Hotdogs for Tea
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Squib

      1. panda07
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Sorry autocorrect

      2. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
        • 16 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Yeah, only copped that one myself few years ago - apparently 'squib' is the wire that is lit for bomb making. It has nothing to do with squids!

        1. Hotdogs for Tea
          • 10 Years
          2 years, 7 months ago

          It's up there with being on tender hooks 😉

          1. panda07
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            2 years, 7 months ago

            Or from the gecko or go for the juggler.

    3. Dennis System
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      The hunting c### wins

      1. panda07
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        C###? How dare you!

  27. Merlin the Wraith
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Did they wheel him back out to the hotel in a wheelchair after the game?

  28. Merlin the Wraith
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Wow! FFS ticker banner on bullet train mode!

    1. Merlin the Wraith
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Brakes now applied 🙂

  29. Dennis System
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    No interest in Cancelo?

    1. G-Whizz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      *Tumbleweed*

      1. Dennis System
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Ive already got tumbleweed just wondering about cancelo ?

  30. Zimo
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Zaha gone. Olise on the way out. Eze is gonna be on every single penalty and set piece. But the attack isn't very good anymore. Is he still a good option for u?

    1. FPL Brains
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      They've still got Edouard. Think he'll be worth his price.

    2. Crunchie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Zaha is gone. Olise either becomes a bid war as there is no release clause as being reported.

      https://theathletic.com/3299998/2022/05/09/ornstein-haaland-deal-done-pogba-says-no-to-city-move-elneny-contract-talks-olise-new-deal/?source=emp_shared_article

      1. Bobby Digital
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Apparently 35m release clause

        1. Crunchie
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          2 years, 7 months ago

          Not anymore.

          he would have been bought last season if thats the case.

          It was renegotiated. Why would Chelsea bid £39 to £45m then?