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  1. I Member
    3 years, 1 month ago

    I think Rashford has been my worst own this season. At least Jackson and Chilwell were cheaper.

    1. I am 42
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Chilwell was my worse own, without him, I would have played Gusto, 14 points swing

      1. I am 42
        3 years, 1 month ago

        sorry I take back my words, without him, I would have chosen Botman instead of Trippier

        so net gain 4 points

    2. TheBiffas
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Pickford is mine. Not had more than 2pts from my keeper all season

      1. I Member
        3 years, 1 month ago

        I have Pickford too but if I didn't I would've had Onana who hasn't been great either whereas I could've had Son instead of Rashford. Haven't looked at the numbers but I assume Son over Rashford is a bigger swing than another goalkeeper over Pickford.

    3. Atimis
      3 years, 1 month ago

      I had Gabriel and then Henry who scored like 2 point for me in 2 games, similar with Mbeumo and Sterling lol

    4. Boxwoods
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 years, 1 month ago

      #realtalk

    5. camarozz
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Chilwell/Sterling/rashford and onana owner here. Absolutely killing me

  2. The Knights Template
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Skonto going beserk with the puns! Well done!

    1. Critical Observer
      3 years, 1 month ago

      It’s a common misconception that the Nordic berserkers consumed fly agaric when preparing for battle, to attain the trance-like state of rage and fury they became famous - legendary, even - for, later gaining them their own entry in dictionaries of English language.

      It appears more likely that they reached such altered state of mind by powers of self-suggestion, or alternatively, by consuming beer laced with marsh tea.

      1. The Knights Template
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Were they led by Lord Humungus?

  3. RAFA THE GAFFA
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Thoughts on this Son/Salah/Haaland/Trippier WC? Money a bit tight but looks decent?

    Would play Lascelles for the Suspended Gordon this week.

    Areola (Turner)
    
Trippier Gabriel Cash (Lascelles Taylor
)
    Salah Son Maddison Diaby Gordon
    Haaland Alvarez (Mubama)

    1. RAFA THE GAFFA
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Gabriel could be Udog

    2. TheBiffas
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Would have Porro or Udogie over Gabriel. Wouldn't have Lascelles. Rest is good

    3. KunDogan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Strong team!

    4. Releasebreaks
      3 years, 1 month ago

      I have similar team

      But I have Udogie and Bowen instead Gabriel and Gordon

      1. RAFA THE GAFFA
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Rich b@stard 🙂

  4. TheBiffas
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Thoughts on my wildcard team? No Trippier but you can't have em all

    Areola, Turner

    Cash, Burn, Udogie, Andersen, Branthwaite

    Son, Gordon, Salah, Maddison, Bowen

    Haaland, Watkins, Archer

    1. The Knights Template
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Arise, Sir Biffas!

      1. TheBiffas
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Promotion from the dungeon to the slave quarters? Thank you, my liege.

        1. The Knights Template
          3 years, 1 month ago

          You'll be sitting at the round table in no time! I'm thinking of removing Sir Flatulent the Downwind!

    2. Il Capitano
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Pretty much the draft I'm currently on (Porro, Gabriel, Taylor, Neto v your Udogie, Andersen, Branthwaite and Gordon) I likes it

    3. Cruyff's Eleven
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Yeah, solid.

      I have Saka and Trippier but am taking a risk by going without Haaland for a few weeks.

    4. House Frey Wedding Planner
      3 years, 1 month ago

      WC looks good

    5. Nuka Girl
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Like your team.

  5. Slurpy
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Thoughts on my WC?

    Areola (Turner)
    Trippier Cash Digne Udogie (Beyer)
    Salah Bowen Son Maddison Diaby
    Haaland (Foster, Archer)

    1. TheBiffas
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Never considered this formation. Question is whether Diaby can cover Watkins well enough

      1. Slurpy
        3 years, 1 month ago

        He was doing well enough before this game week

    2. The Knights Template
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Arise, Sir Slurpy!

    3. Cruyff's Eleven
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 years, 1 month ago

      In current climate, a defender can not cover - points wise - a forward.

      That said, it's a solid 451.

    4. Hint
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Villa take a lot of risks at the back and leakier without Mings. I'd double up on their attack but not defence.

    5. Batman1983
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Don't like the double Villa defence personally

    6. Releasebreaks
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Going for a Defender instead of Striker is waisting points

      At end of the season, the strikers will have much more points ahead of defenders.

      Think abou it

  6. The Philosopher
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Rp

    How's this WC looking?

    Turner Areola
    Undogie Tripper Estu Cash Kabore
    Son Maddison Diaz Bowen Diaby
    Haaland Watkins Archer

    1.5 itb

    Someone becomes Saka in GW10

    1. TheBiffas
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Very nice. Personally, gotta have Salah in mine.

    2. The Knights Template
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Arise, Sir Shine on You Crazy Diamond!

    3. Nespinha
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Good shout tbf

  7. TheBiffas
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Would be nice if those asking for help with their teams repaid the favour every once in a while

    1. The Knights Template
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Keep an eye out for United Nations, I think he may have changed his identity again.

      1. Debauchy
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Hmmm... no siting of UN for some time you sure you don't have him in ye Olde Dungeon....

        1. The Knights Template
          3 years, 1 month ago

          I wish!

  8. Nespinha
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Is this worth a wildcard? I would change 9 players, but unsure this is too much kneejerk and I should just roll.

    1FT 0.5ITB

    Onana, Turner
    Schar, Botman, Udogie, Gvardiol, estupinan
    Rashford, Bruno, Mbeumo, son, maddison
    Archer, Haaland, Alvarez

    1. TheBiffas
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Yeah I would wildcard that tbh.

    2. The Knights Template
      3 years, 1 month ago

      It is if you'd like to become a Knight Template, like mine fellow brethren above!

    3. The Biscuitmen
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Yeah, I'd probably WC there

    4. Batman1983
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Screaming out for a wildcard

  9. House Frey Wedding Planner
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Who to start for GW8:

    A - Estupinan (LIV)
    B - Archer (ful)

    1. The Knights Template
      3 years, 1 month ago

      A. I have Castagne in mine team and that is mine reason for selecting A.

      1. House Frey Wedding Planner
        3 years, 1 month ago

        I've got Leno in goal so equally reluctant to go with Archer. Don't really wanna start Estupinan against Liverpool though but have Botman and Gordon unavailable. Took a hit last week and would like to avoid another hit if I can.

        1. The Knights Template
          3 years, 1 month ago

          If you ever need to play Archer, you'd think Fulham would be one of those games to do it.

    2. TheBiffas
      3 years, 1 month ago

      B. Can't see anything more than a 1 pter for Estupiñan

      1. Nickofoz
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Agree with this - Brighton dont seem to be coping well with all the games and another midweek game this week too. Liverpool will be fired up after VAR gate!

    3. Nespinha
      3 years, 1 month ago

      B, one of the few chances to play him

    4. I Member
      3 years, 1 month ago

      B

    5. Batman1983
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 years, 1 month ago

      B

  10. Zenith UK
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Mbeumo & Doku > Son & 4.8?
    or
    Mbeumo & Doku > Maddison & 6.2?

    Only have two FWDs because apparently having fodder Archer instead of Watkins is the way to play...

    1. House Frey Wedding Planner
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Tough one. Would definitely prefer Son, but there are better options to pick a 6.2 mid by going with Maddison, than a 4.8 mid with Son

    2. The Knights Template
      3 years, 1 month ago

      I think you need Son. Shame you can't get Soucek the Destroyer at 4.9m.

    3. Nespinha
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Depends if you'll be playing a 4.8 mid or not

      1. Zenith UK
        3 years, 1 month ago

        I would be unless I played 4-4-2

        Defenders would be, Trippier, Cash, Burn, Udogie, Gusto

  11. Tonyawesome69
    3 years, 1 month ago

    A bit of a slow Monday.

    What are folks biggest transfer gain and loss so far this season?

    Biggest gain: 30 points
    Trippier 30 points (GW6-7) - Chilwell 0 points (GW6-7)

    Biggest loss: -26 points
    Jackson 9 points (GW3-5) + Alvarez 9 points (GW6-7) - Watkins 44 points (GW3-7)

    1. The Knights Template
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Mine Monday is slow now too!

    2. Mirror Man
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Martial to Haaland went well but it took a lot of jam.

  12. Nightf0x
    3 years, 1 month ago

    areola turner
    Cash gabriel udogie X X
    son X X X X
    Haland watkins X

    Complete WC ?

    A) alvarez bruno bowen saka burn andersen-diaby/mitchel-mbeumo
    B) darwin/alvarez diaby/mbeumo mads bowen saka/bruno burn mitchel/andersen
    C) archer salah mads diaby jwp burn mitchel
    D) alvarez salah mads jwp chukumeka burn mitchel
    E) alavrez salah diaby mads chukumeka/anderson/4.4mid. lascels/3.9def. mitchel/andersen (4.4mid. 3.9def. or 4.3mid. 4.0def.)

    1. The Knights Template
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Waaaay too much work here, sorry.

      1. Nespinha
        3 years, 1 month ago

        A knight puts in the work when it's needed

    2. Mirror Man
      3 years, 1 month ago

      I'd like to help but I can't handle the pressure.

      1. Haa-lala-land
        3 years, 1 month ago

        I like turtles

        1. Mirror Man
          3 years, 1 month ago

          Who doesn't

          1. The Knights Template
            3 years, 1 month ago

            I ate a turtle once.

    3. Hurnt
      3 years, 1 month ago

      B Darwin diaby mads Bowen

  13. Botman and Robben
    3 years, 1 month ago

    0FT 0.7ITB.

    Onana
    Botman Estupian Beyer
    Salah Mitoma Son Bowen
    Haaland Alvarez Watkins

    Turner Anderson Pinnock Baldock

    WC now? Players I want gone: Onana, Estu, Botman, Baldock, Pinnock.

    1. The Biscuitmen
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Yeah, Id WC

    2. The Knights Template
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Not yet, those problems are comparatively small.

    3. Tonyawesome69
      3 years, 1 month ago

      I would just ride it out.

    4. Miguel Sanchez
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Great front 7 - absolutely no need to WC, a 0-0 between Brighton and UNited an you're laughing

    5. Bubz
      3 years, 1 month ago

      No way

      1. Bubz
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Well I suppose your defence is a bit of a shambles actually... your attack is decent though

    6. mttrznck
      3 years, 1 month ago

      That front and mid is excellent. The back line is a problem for GW8, but Botman should be back around GW9 or GW10, Estupinan's fixtures will improve...this feels like an easy keep. Maybe do a -4 with Estupinan for defensive coverage.

    7. Botman and Robben
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Thanks all...

  14. afsr
    3 years, 1 month ago

    RMWCT pls

    Areola, Turner
    Cash, Trippier, Kabore, Porro, Taylor
    Salah, Son, Bowen, Diaby, Neto
    Haaland, Watkins, Archer.
    0.0 ITB

    Could get Maddison for Bowen if I downgrade Watkins to Alvarez. What else is needed here?

    1. The Biscuitmen
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Like the looks of that

    2. The Knights Template
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Arise, Sir AFSR!

    3. mttrznck
      3 years, 1 month ago

      This is great. I prefer Watkins/Bowen to Maddison/Alvarez going forward. Nothing wrong with Alvarez, but with the fixtures coming up for City, only Haaland feels like a safe choice to me.

    4. RoyaleBlue
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Crazy idea, go Gordon over Neto and play Archer this GW against Fulham while he's suspended. Feel Gordon is such a better option than Neto

  15. I am 42
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Saka back in full training

    Keep Saka or Ode?

    Feels a bit wrong to axe Ode after his brace

    1. The Knights Template
      3 years, 1 month ago

      I would not be axing Ode. Great differential now.

    2. Tonyawesome69
      3 years, 1 month ago

      You would have a different POV if Saka didn't gift those 2 pens. reluctantly sell Ode but I would be looking at the double up from GW10 onwards

    3. I am 42
      3 years, 1 month ago

      sadly either has to go, I need $$ for Son

    4. Scalper
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Keep Saka. All season

    5. mttrznck
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Saka. Not a question for me. I agree with Scalper; if he stays fit he's season-long, and I wish I had him.

  16. EL tridente
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Pretty happy with my 30 minutes before GW panic WC.
    Onana, (Areola)
    Cash, Zinchenko, Trippier, (Estu), (Taylor)
    Son, Diaby, Bowen, Ødegaard, (Mitoma)
    Haaland, Watkins, Morris

    1. The Knights Template
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Some say it's better to be content than happy.

  17. The Iceman
    3 years, 1 month ago

    With the news Saka is back in training I'm now having second thoughts on moving him to Son.

    Anyone else have the same dilemma, and if so, how are you going about it?

    1. Tonyawesome69
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Sell United attackers ahead of Saka

      1. The Iceman
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Here's my current team with 1FT and 0.6 ITB:

        Leno
        Cash | Udogie | Walker
        Salah | Saka | Maddison | Mbeumo
        Darwin | Haaland | Alvarez

        Subs: Areola | Sarr, Botman*, Gusto*

        Any suggestions?

        1. I Member
          3 years, 1 month ago

          Aren't you maxed out on Spurs already with Udogie, Maddison and Sarr?

          1. The Iceman
            3 years, 1 month ago

            Yep! But I was happy to take a -4 to sort it.

            1. I Member
              3 years, 1 month ago

              I don't think I would sell Saka for a -4. Roll or get rid of Mbeumo or Botman.

              1. The Iceman
                3 years, 1 month ago

                I can afford Mbeumo to Bowen for free? Then I can do Botman > Gabriel after the IB.

          2. Tonyawesome69
            3 years, 1 month ago

            Yup well spotted

        2. Tonyawesome69
          3 years, 1 month ago

          I think Saka to Son is probably the move here when you factor in captaincy this GW. Also depends if have the WC still to play

      2. I Member
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Hoping that Rashford (BRE, shu) can beat Saka (MCI, che) but I'm not confident at all.

        1. Tonyawesome69
          3 years, 1 month ago

          I'm not confident either which is why I kept Saka and sold Rashford as I had the United double up with Bruno. I still have 1FT and could do Saka/Bruno to Maddison.

    2. I Member
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Made the move before Son's price rise as I'm low on funds. Will get Saka back on GW10 WC.

      1. The Iceman
        3 years, 1 month ago

        That would have been my move if I still had my WC intact 🙁

        1. I Member
          3 years, 1 month ago

          Without WC I would just hold Saka. He can still get something in the next two and the fixtures are excellent after that.

          1. The Iceman
            3 years, 1 month ago

            Probably the sensible decision. Thank you.

    3. Yozzer
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Keep Saka at all cost imo

  18. I Member
    3 years, 1 month ago

    The average seems surprisingly high to me this week considering Haaland, Salah, Rashford, Fernandes, Mbeumo, Mitoma, Estupinan, etc. all blanked. Thought my 45 was okay but another red arrow.

    1. The Iceman
      3 years, 1 month ago

      I thought the same thing, lol.

    2. Scalper
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Hauls from son trippier Saka helped

  19. boc610
    3 years, 1 month ago

    sterling to haul tonight

    1. Bubz
      3 years, 1 month ago

      I need a hatty

    2. Mirror Man
      3 years, 1 month ago

      3pts? I have my doubts.

    3. BIind Moth
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Feeling a 10 pointer from him.

    4. x.jim.x
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Might actually manage a shot on target

  20. Salarrivederci
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Sanchez, Al-Dahlin, Kabore and Morris (C) to go! Need atleast 7 from Sanchez tonight!

  21. lilmessipran
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Seeing so many wildcard drafts going without Alvarez which I really don't understand..His minutes seem secure for now..at his price(half of Haaland) even slightly trickier fixtures should not matter that much.

    1. Scalper
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Yeah think they’re being swayed a bit too much by Watkins performance. If he was 7.5 though I’d be tempted. 8 too much

    2. x.jim.x
      3 years, 1 month ago

      People tearing up their teams for a player who had 1 league goal in 500 minutes before the weekend. A hat-trick from an xG of 0.8 is unprecedented and lack of pens hurts his appeal.

      Good fixtures though and he's always been a purple patch merchant, so a good time to jump on - just wouldn't be wildcarding / taking hits to fit him in over a City striker who's only really blanked once.

    3. KunDogan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Totally agree with you, people are chasing Watkins points, Alvarez is an old toy they forgot when he suffered from that Rodri red card

  22. BrockLanders
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Would you folks sell Rashford this GW? Already gave the double with Bruno, but no Son..

    1. BrockLanders
      3 years, 1 month ago

      *have*

    2. Scalper
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Yes, absolutely must go

    3. I Member
      3 years, 1 month ago

      For Son yes definitely.

    4. Tonyawesome69
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Yes already sold to Son

    5. Yozzer
      3 years, 1 month ago

      He plays a very leaky Brentford and then Sheff UTD. Probably not the time to lose him . I know he's not playing well but ....

      1. The Mentaculus
        3 years, 1 month ago

        You could have said the same about Burnley, and just talk yourself into never selling...

    6. Batman1983
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Yes

  23. Scalper
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Would you take a -4 for Foden > Diaby?

    Y/N

    Cheers

    1. ritzyd
      3 years, 1 month ago

      no

    2. Tonyawesome69
      3 years, 1 month ago

      No

    3. Rice Krispie
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Absolutely

    4. space mercenary
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Yes

    5. Batman1983
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Absolutely not.

  24. Waltomade
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Who makes way for Son?

    Rashford: Good upcoming fixtures but poor form
    Saka: Good form but difficult fixtures on paper.

    1. Rice Krispie
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Lol

    2. The Iceman
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Rashford surely. United are not playing at all well.

    3. EnterJakari
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Rash 100% goes

  25. Rice Krispie
    3 years, 1 month ago

    I've been trying to find my feet I direct experience but to no avail. Are 'my' feet just concepts?

    Or should I just forget about the above and keep things simple Halland>Watkins for free and bank the cashola?

    1. Rice Krispie
      3 years, 1 month ago

      For what it's worth I'm a former top 10k player. If that helps.

      https://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/6011509/event/7

      1. Nuka Girl
        3 years, 1 month ago

        I would advise to not spend so many points.

        1. Rice Krispie
          3 years, 1 month ago

          Fair one. I get too carried away I admit.

    2. BIind Moth
      3 years, 1 month ago

      I was just about to ask on here if anybody has considered the unthinkable, which is sell Haaland? I'm sure there have been discussion's but I haven't been on since Friday. My thinking isn't based off just one blank... but more his fixture run which coincides with Salah having an amazing fixture run. I think I would only captain Haaland twice in the next 7 games which doesn't seem worth it.

      1. Rice Krispie
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah same here. Better to spread the cash. I'm working on something special for next week. Will take a -24 but I can see it being worth it.

        1. The Knights Template
          3 years, 1 month ago

          I've asked for a beard trim as well.

        2. Batman1983
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          3 years, 1 month ago

          A -24 hit? Not worth it.

        3. Nuka Girl
          3 years, 1 month ago

          -24 points is not going to be worth it, unless you are playing some game within the game?

    3. Nuka Girl
      3 years, 1 month ago

      What game are you playing with all your point spends?
      Trying for top score each week?

    4. The Mentaculus
      3 years, 1 month ago

      What do you mean by "find your feet"? A style of playing? A stable team that you're happy with?

      Its very simple why you're not doing well - no one can recover from 51 hits in the last 3 GWs

      1. Rice Krispie
        3 years, 1 month ago

        No I mean literally find my feet. Without referencing the mind there aren't any. In direct experience all I know is the 5 senses. I just feel sensations , there are no feet, there is no floor...I could go on...

        1. The Mentaculus
          3 years, 1 month ago

          😆

          Are you Lurker in disguise?

    5. Nuka Girl
      3 years, 1 month ago

      I am so confused, in so many ways....

      1. The Knights Template
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Are you Rose Byrne?

        1. Nuka Girl
          3 years, 1 month ago

          I am not.

  26. EnterJakari
    3 years, 1 month ago

    After a stinker of a GW, I have pulled the WC trigger..

    Areola - Turner
    Udogie - Gabriel - Burn - Cash - Kabore
    Madders - Salah - Son - Diaby - Gordon
    Haaland - Watkins - Archer

    Pretty much template with 1.4 in the bank.

    I'd plan to bring Botman back into the fold when fit and have room to downgrade the likes of Watkins/Son/Salah if I must.

    1. mttrznck
      3 years, 1 month ago

      This. Maybe Porro over Udogie. The bank space will be useful as regrets start to pile up for everyone.

  27. ZimZalabim
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Just seen Ref Watch on Youtube and Dermot is being his usual self and showing the ref ego where he can but in most points discussed he doesn't have a leg to stand on so has no option but to admit fault and tbf to him did say its left him stunned as there is a second and third person in the VAR booth to make sure that such ludicrous mistakes like not even knowing if your checking for offside on a goal given or a disallowed goal, but yet they all failed.

    I think they need to release the Audio and we need to see exactly what was said by each person.

    Also, Dermot said that The VAR didn't even tell the Ref that he made such a mistake till half time, which is quite insane.

    Then finally Warnock in studio suggested that the ref shd have been immediately informed of the mistake and that he shd go to the side call the managers and captains and suggest they do a drop ball and allow Liverpool to score a goal as a legit goal was wrongfully chalked off, which I dont think would be a bad way to have resolved this situation. What do you guys think of such a suggestion ?

    1. Jordan.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 years, 1 month ago

      dump var ,my cousin is a leicester fan and he loves it now when they score,they can jump up and down and know some bel*end somewhere is not going to rule it out,him and his mates suggest its back to footy and celebrating how it was and VAR is sh*t and ruining enjoyment

      1. ZimZalabim
        3 years, 1 month ago

        For me personally I would keep goal line tech and I would want some form of automated 3D offside like they had at the world cup and the rest could be scrapped and go back to the old way. As long as those two systems are foolproof.

    2. space mercenary
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Yes, would have been a fair outcome but would have appeared even more chaotic for them.

      1. ZimZalabim
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah I think it would have been a fair outcome as well but agreed it would have made it way more chaotic and as said below its outside the rules of the game as they stand. But then again 1 goal and 1 point can end up being a very significant thing come the end of the season.

    3. x.jim.x
      3 years, 1 month ago

      People are going too far by demanding audio files when a mistake like this can be put down to simple incompetence. The language they're made to use (saying "check complete" instead of "goal stands/goal disallowed") doesn't help either.

      In my opinion, VAR were right to not tell Hooper about the mistake as it would have caused him to panic and potentially cloud his judgement. Discussing it at half-time in a calmer environment is a much better plan. According to the rules of the game, the referee would have violated the rules of the game if they had changed the decision after whistling (which is farcical in itself), so there would have been literally no reason to tell him.

      Warnock's idea is daft and sets a stupid precedent. Every team has been affected by poor refereeing decisions - it's ridiculous to expect teams to rectify mistakes by "letting" the opposition score.

      1. ZimZalabim
        3 years, 1 month ago

        I dont think people are going too far to demand the audio be released, I think that shd be made available real time for every VAR intervention, for clear transparency of what they are discussing and what they are watching and how they come to the decision and post match, the ref watch ex refs can explain any rules that might be needed for clarification. Its done in other leagues and other sports so why not in the Prem.

        Agreed on the language point, it should be as clear as possible what they are looking at, not leave no doubt adding the extra two words of "check complete hes onside goal stands" hardly takes another second or two.

        You may be right on this point that it may have caused him to panic or second guess himself and lead to more bad decisions or cloud his judgment, and agreed the IFAB rules they've mentioned post the situation that once the game is restarted they cant change the decision is extremely stupid, when the VAR saw the free kick he obviously instantly knew he screwed up and could have told the ref within secs of the offside freekick, so that certainly needs to be reevaluated.

        The priority of the rules should be to get the correct decisions rather than handcuff the officials, even if its takes an extra 30 secs or the game gets stopped again for a few secs to rectify a glaring black and white mistake.

        1. x.jim.x
          3 years, 1 month ago

          Yeah that's fair - I just don't think it will really solve anything, and it's more likely to stoke the fire if anything. People like to get carried away with silly theories, so imagine the sh*t-storm if people start accusing them of editing the audio or missing bits out.

          The rest is just typical bureaucracy where they're more concerned about covering their backsides than applying any common sense. We all know there was plenty of time to correct the error before play restarted and Gallagher hiding behind the fact that they literally couldn't change the decision without being punished is pathetic.

          I believe that they're just panicking trying to get decisions made as quickly as possible - there needs to be a balance.

      2. ZimZalabim
        3 years, 1 month ago

        As for Warnocks idea maybe it is daft in terms of the ends not justifying the means, and would set a 'stupid' precedent in as far as the refs disregarding the letter of the law even if it is to correct a mistake they have collectively made.

        Teams have been affected by poor refereeing but I'm only talking about offside or goal line here where we were lead to believe that these are black and white decisions, where there is no room for subjectivity, its either on or off, its either crossed the line or it hasn't.

        No one would expect subjective decisions where these refs show no consistency week to week to be rectified by this kind of solution, I do take your point here that it would set a precedent that could end up causing absolute chaos.

        Anyway I dont see this situation going away as quickly with other mistakes, as before, I think there will have to be some form of stop gap solution for the season and a change of the rules going forward with the implementation of VAR

        1. x.jim.x
          3 years, 1 month ago

          I think we've hit a point now where the league needs to implement the automatic offside technology from the Champions League and World Cup (like you mentioned in another comment). This is a huge irreparable error and another embarrassment that PGMOL have had to apologise for - we've already seen them drawing lines on the wrong players, etc, so how can they be trusted going forward?

          1. ZimZalabim
            3 years, 1 month ago

            Totally agreed, eliminate human error where possible, why do we need a convoluted system of drawing lines and all this when the automated tech is available and being used in the game.

            The subjectivity of other decisions will remain and not much can be done about that and VAR cant actually be perfect so we also shouldn't expect that in these more subjective decisions, we can just hope for more consistency across the board is all.

            Anyway appreciate the chat mate.

            1. x.jim.x
              3 years, 1 month ago

              Totally agree - imagine where we'd be without Goal Line Technology!

              No worries at all, nice talking about a controversial subject without a load of name-calling attached to it!

    4. AC/DC AFC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 years, 1 month ago

      I think it would have been a sporting gesture ...

      but what about other mistakes that weren't rectified at the time?

  28. Letsgo!
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Saka fine for weekend?

  29. Atimis
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Thinking reasonable plan is you can leave Saka aside on a WC but have funds/moves to do Maddison to Saka/Ode GW10?
    If you have both Son and Maddison, reckon one is enough from GW10.

    1. The Mentaculus
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Might just be me, but I have no intention of letting go of Son or Maddison for the foreseeable future. That's why Salah would only ever be a short-term pick for me as I'm only willing to sacrifice Saka short-term due to fixtures & fitness

      1. Atimis
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Surely Saka Son Salah over Madd?

        1. The Mentaculus
          3 years, 1 month ago

          I guess its tough to make a case for Maddison over Saka in the long-term. But I don't think a 200pt season is unrealistic for Maddison in this Spurs side if he can stay fit, so Maddi + 5m v Salah (again, in terms of value long-term) isn't actually much of a contest in my eyes

  30. KieranKA
    3 years, 1 month ago

    On a long-planned wildcard, and it feels not a moment too soon after a disaster gameweek.

    WC, 25.1 ITB
    Johnstone // Aréola
    Cash Udogie ____ // ____ Kaboré
    Salah Son ____ Diaby Eze
    Haaland ____ // Archer

    A: Schär, Estupiñán, Fernandes, Solanke
    B: Schär, Botman/Burn, Bowen, Watkins
    C: Andersen, Botman/Burn, Maddison, Watkins

    I'm not 100% set on Eze, but the price jump from him to the next midfielder I want (Bowen) is big enough and I don't mind him as a pick.

    1. mttrznck
      3 years, 1 month ago

      C feels right (possibly B). Plenty of room to move down if necessary later, and Andersen feels like a steal at the moment. I've had Schar for awhile, but at this price point (and Botman's), Burn feels better. Do you like Maddison or Bowen better over the next few? Whichever you prefer, build around that one.