1. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      No Dought.

      1. BECKS TO THE FUTURE
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 3 months ago

        No Udoggity, no dought.

        1. tiger
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          2 years, 3 months ago

          I like the way you worked it...

          1. BECKS TO THE FUTURE
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 4 Years
            2 years, 3 months ago

            I like the way you benched it.

  1. AC/DC AFC
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    What an absolute belter of a game of football.

    1. BECKS TO THE FUTURE
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      You didn't bench him, did you? Worst game of football ever.

      😉

      1. AC/DC AFC
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 3 months ago

        I had Gusto too.

        At one point I was up to 22 points before I checked on his 2nd goal.

        Will take the 18 points despite the Gusto blank.

        He could have assisted as well.

        1. BECKS TO THE FUTURE
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          2 years, 3 months ago

          Ah yer that's unlucky! Congrats on the Palmer points tho 🙂

  2. It’s gonna Ben Mee
    • 12 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    Luton will stay up. Fingers crossed

    1. Ask Yourself
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      They play the most entertaining football in the PL

  3. Dynamic Duos
    • 12 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    Any warm up knocks yet?

    1. The Philosopher
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      Yeah. Hearing Palmer benchers got a bit of a knock to their OR.

      1. Dynamic Duos
        • 12 Years
        2 years, 3 months ago

        Yes we did, crying

  4. Bluetiger1
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    Remaining GW20 fixtures - predictions
    please put in your thoughts/predictions?

    Aston Villa 3 v 1 Burnley
    Crystal Palace 1 v 1 Brentford
    Man City 3 v 0 Sheffield United
    Wolves 2 v 2 Everton
    Nott'm Forest 1 v 2 Manchester United
    Fulham 0 v 2 Arsenal
    Spurs 1 v 2 Bournemouth
    Liverpool 4 v 1 Newcastle United
    West Ham United 1 v 0 Brighton

    1. nerd_is_the_werd
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      Aston Villa 2 v 1 Burnley
      Crystal Palace 1 v 1 Brentford
      Man City 4 v 0 Sheffield United
      Wolves 2 v 1 Everton
      Nott'm Forest 1 v 0 Manchester United
      Fulham 0 v 2 Arsenal
      Spurs 2 v 1 Bournemouth
      Liverpool 2 v 1 Newcastle United
      West Ham United 3 v 1 Brighton

    2. Supersonic_
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      2 - 1
      1 - 1
      4 - 1
      1 - 1
      1 - 3
      0 - 2
      3 - 2
      3 - 1
      2 - 2

    3. F4L
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      2-0
      1-0
      2-0
      1-1
      2-2
      0-2
      2-1
      2-1
      1-2

    4. Bluetiger1
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      thanks all

  5. nerd_is_the_werd
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    Only have Alvarez (c) playing since Watkins provides nothing if he blanks or scores.
    Not even a hat-trick will overhaul the decision not to captain Palmer 🙁

    1. F4L
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      know the feeling, thought about triple captaining Palmer then realised I didn't own him

      1. Dynamic Duos
        • 12 Years
        2 years, 3 months ago

        Ahahaha

      2. Sir Matt Bugsby
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 3 months ago

        Kudos for having a laugh about it.

    2. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      Watkins is a ghost FPL wise. It doesn't matter what he does.

  6. F4L
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    hadnt even looked at doughty, might be worth owning just for the home fixtures

  7. Supersonic_
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    Right. Strap in for my Foden C 2pt masterclass.

    1. Gudjohnsen
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      He'll score 11 x 2 points

    2. SAKA AND EMILE SMITH ROWE
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      I’m on Foden(c) too, ready to be disappointed

      1. Supersonic_
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 3 months ago

        Pretty sure I've got Hyperfixation, spent all day tinkering a FH after hitting the button in a desperate attempt to change the tide. Only to be punished in the first game. Is normal. From a ML standpoint, nobody really has him. But it would of capitulated me back up the board none the less. We go forward. Incredible comeback stories are welcome. Currently 120 behind first place. TC and BB left.

        If I talk about a BB, please talk me out of it.

  8. Ask Yourself
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    Okay just need city to score low now please and I can enjoy the weekend

    1. Woy_is_back
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      Yeah,1-0 will do. Walker goal

  9. Randaxus
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    I am going to call him Cold Palmer for now on.

    1. Randaxus
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      from*

    2. Supersonic_
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      I like it.

  10. Gazzpfc
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    Play Alvarez or -4 for Haaland?

  11. Thanos
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    So let the pain continue after benching Palmer. Watkins captain!

  12. TKC07
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    If you didn't own Palmer, would you do Salah to Palmer immediately or wait for FA/EFL fixtures to be played?

    1. FFS ManU
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      A lot can happen in the 2 weeks before GW21, so I would wait.

    2. The Mentaculus
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      Wait. More than 7m leeway

  13. Scapegoat Salah
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    That’s 3 Palmer hauls and 2 Mbuemo hauls I’ve benched now this season.

    Bench is pointless, they need to change how it works

    1. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      Clubs often prefer to sack the manager.

    2. Defcons are for Kinnear
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      What do you propose?

      1. Scapegoat Salah
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 3 months ago

        Some form of being able to manually switch out players live who haven’t played yet, with a cut off of course.

        Would help avoid cameo points too as you could sub them out

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          2 years, 3 months ago

          Skill is lessened if you can just replace bad scores.

          1. Scapegoat Salah
            • 9 Years
            2 years, 3 months ago

            Not if you have chosen to have 15 decent players

          2. Scapegoat Salah
            • 9 Years
            2 years, 3 months ago

            Because that would be the trade off, an XI containing the extra premium, or a 15 containing an extra mid scorer but one less premium.

            Gives players more choice then, you’d end up with 2 templates, rather than 1

            1. TorresMagic™
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 16 Years
              2 years, 3 months ago

              Sounds like you benched the wrong player given where Luton are and Palmer was fresh. You might get some jam.

              1. Scapegoat Salah
                • 9 Years
                2 years, 3 months ago

                I’d want to change the mechanics regardless of whether I get jam or not, been saying for ages

                1. TorresMagic™
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • Has Moderation Rights
                  • 16 Years
                  2 years, 3 months ago

                  Becomes a game when order of games/schedule is more important than the first 11.

                  1. Scapegoat Salah
                    • 9 Years
                    2 years, 3 months ago

                    I think it’s basically either:

                    A) You have an XI and that’s it

                    B) You have XI with a 4 player bench

                    I genuinely think, my personal interest aside, that the game would be enhanced with either it being A or B but with some active management enabled during the gameweek

                    1. TorresMagic™
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • Has Moderation Rights
                      • 16 Years
                      2 years, 3 months ago

                      I'd rather free hit every week for an 11.

                    2. TorresMagic™
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • Has Moderation Rights
                      • 16 Years
                      2 years, 3 months ago

                      Just punishes casual managers.

                      1. Scapegoat Salah
                        • 9 Years
                        2 years, 3 months ago

                        Which in turn, rewards them who spend more time on it, which is surely what they would want from a corporate perspective

                      2. TorresMagic™
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • Has Moderation Rights
                        • 16 Years
                        2 years, 3 months ago

                        In the end you should have played Palmer. Every 1st game would be a free dart throw as long as you have subs.

                      3. Scapegoat Salah
                        • 9 Years
                        2 years, 3 months ago

                        But if they blank you can’t sub them out as they’ve already played?

                        Honestly, it would be such a great addition, more decisions/options = better game

                      4. Scapegoat Salah
                        • 9 Years
                        2 years, 3 months ago

                        Actually, you’d just always bench early kick off players wouldn’t you?

                        Hmm that’s an issue

          3. Sir Matt Bugsby
            • 6 Years
            2 years, 3 months ago

            That's a ridiculous statement. It's a 15-player game instead of 11.

      2. Scapegoat Salah
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 3 months ago

        It would also enhance the game, more differentiation with 15 players as opposed to 11 plus fodder

        1. jacob1989
          • 4 Years
          2 years, 3 months ago

          This is how it is played in uefa cl fantasy

    3. Sir Matt Bugsby
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      It's a big source of frustration in FPL. Nothing strategic about it, unlike WC and Euro fantasy games. But we know they won't do anything about it..

      1. Scapegoat Salah
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 3 months ago

        Exactly, there’s no reward for putting good bench players in, unless you get lucky basically.

        1. The Ilfordian
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 3 months ago

          Or the order of that bench

          1. Scapegoat Salah
            • 9 Years
            2 years, 3 months ago

            Yeah because of formation limitation, which I get to an extent.

            The ordering actually wouldn’t matter with my proposal.
            Another thing actually, is it would increase active participation in the game, even during the gameweek. Something they would certainly want.

    4. d1g2w3
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      It's not the game that's the problem. I understand your frustrated but this is the point of various

      1. d1g2w3
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        2 years, 3 months ago

        Variance*

        1. Scapegoat Salah
          • 9 Years
          2 years, 3 months ago

          My proposal would only increase the variance, 15 players as opposed to 11 plus some 4, but we’ll only give you them if you’re lucky.

          1. TorresMagic™
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 16 Years
            2 years, 3 months ago

            Just end up with 10 players being the same after subbings.

            1. Scapegoat Salah
              • 9 Years
              2 years, 3 months ago

              No because it would depend on the ordering of play.

              Say for instance Palmer blanked, and I wanted to sub him out, I wouldn’t be able to as he’s played.
              You’d only be able to sub out players who haven’t yet played.

              It would create some interesting trade off scenarios, where a player on Saturday has scored on your bench, but then your starting asset plays Sunday and you have to weigh up if it’s a worth the sub or not.

              I’m sure they did this during WC/Euros?

              1. MrZ
                • 11 Years
                2 years, 3 months ago

                Sounds like UCL & WC fantasy format

                1. Scapegoat Salah
                  • 9 Years
                  2 years, 3 months ago

                  So it clearly works in practise then

                  1. MrZ
                    • 11 Years
                    2 years, 3 months ago

                    Yes but on many occasions, i traded 5-6 points players to 0-1 players... Every format has their own plus & minus, just enjoy it

                    1. Scapegoat Salah
                      • 9 Years
                      2 years, 3 months ago

                      And I love that trade off, it’s a decision to make given more information.
                      Much better format imo

              2. TorresMagic™
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • Has Moderation Rights
                • 16 Years
                2 years, 3 months ago

                I'd rather all games on at the same time in that case. Makes the game worse imo.

                1. Scapegoat Salah
                  • 9 Years
                  2 years, 3 months ago

                  Why? Does it not then reward the more engaged manager?

                  Rather than someone who doesn’t bother playing actively, and has hauls subbed on for their 3 red flags then that they have neglected because they’ve lost interest, given up, and not even noticed the feat?

                  1. TorresMagic™
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • Has Moderation Rights
                    • 16 Years
                    2 years, 3 months ago

                    Plenty of people in the world sleep during games. Rather dead teams beating me than beating them due to replacing low scores due to subbing. It's like throwing darts and replacing them until you score better.

                    1. Scapegoat Salah
                      • 9 Years
                      2 years, 3 months ago

                      I just think it would be a worthwhile addition to the game, nothing would be taken away (unless we just went to having an XI like The Sun).

                      Whether you participate in the addition is up to the player, people sleeping during games is no different to time zones affecting when the deadline is being a potential hurdle.

                      For the darts analogy, remember I’m suggesting if a player has already played you can’t sub them out.

              3. TorresMagic™
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • Has Moderation Rights
                • 16 Years
                2 years, 3 months ago

                Ah, fair enough. Still a free shot on Palmer for every owner. You shouldn't be able to sub Palmer on though.

                1. Scapegoat Salah
                  • 9 Years
                  2 years, 3 months ago

                  Yup!

                  1. Scapegoat Salah
                    • 9 Years
                    2 years, 3 months ago

                    As in agreed you wouldn’t be able to sub him on as he’s already played

      2. Sir Matt Bugsby
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 3 months ago

        Other fantasy games provide the opportunity to sub in players mid game. It's a much better and enjoyable way to play. Don't know about you but I'd like to minimize variance.

        1. Scapegoat Salah
          • 9 Years
          2 years, 3 months ago

          That’s exactly what I was thinking

          1. d1g2w3
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            2 years, 3 months ago

            I understand you are annoyed because you benched a player who hauled. Happened to me 3 times this year. Accept your choice

            1. Scapegoat Salah
              • 9 Years
              2 years, 3 months ago

              It’s not the choice I’m annoyed about, it is the mechanic of the game I am.

              I’d actually rather there was no bench at all

        2. d1g2w3
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          2 years, 3 months ago

          Then go play those other fantasy games. Variance is needed for poorer players to feel they are good at the game. I play poker, the same exists.

          You get pocket aces cracked by 72, it's annoying as hell, but I want that situation because 4 out of 5 I win.

          1. Sir Matt Bugsby
            • 6 Years
            2 years, 3 months ago

            No point having a constructive argument with you. Have a good day.. I started Palmer btw.

          2. Scapegoat Salah
            • 9 Years
            2 years, 3 months ago

            Poker is complete chance though, in fpl there are stats etc which mean there is some skill/logic that can be applied.

    5. Nuka Girl
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      Up to you if you have money on pitch or on bench.

      1. Scapegoat Salah
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 3 months ago

        Exactly, but if the bench was manipulate during the gameweek in light of team news, bad performances etc then there’s even more tactics involved as to whether you choose to pump all your money in an XI or whether you choose to balance it up with a bench you can sub in.

        At the moment everyone just has fodder benches (Haaland injury aside) because they know a bench is pointless because you can only rely on it through luck or unforeseen circumstances

        1. jacob1989
          • 4 Years
          2 years, 3 months ago

          I don't have bench fodder. I have white trippier and solanke on my bench.
          I played palmer. Play the fixtures or those who think will haul
          Had palmer been 8m+ u would have played him. Bcoz he is so cheap u benched him

          1. Scapegoat Salah
            • 9 Years
            2 years, 3 months ago

            Not is price at all, it was just between Luiz and him, and with both on penalties it was a tough choice.
            So in reality I’ve actually started a similar price bracketed player over him.

            I think many have solid benches atm, myself included, and it’s because of Haaland being out.

            With premiums fully fit it would be a different story, and a decision you’d have to make in terms of structure

    6. jammie26
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      Sounds like very poor management

      1. Scapegoat Salah
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 3 months ago

        Yeah, from fpl on how it works

    7. TyroneGAA
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      You only have Palmer to sit on your bench clearly so it’s all on you

      1. Scapegoat Salah
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 3 months ago

        Yes, you’re right, given the current rules of the game

  14. Bleh
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    Chances of Pau staying on the bench? Have Saliba first sub and fancy his CS chances more now.

  15. Defcons are for Kinnear
    • 12 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    How long is Palmer price locked for?

    1. Randaxus
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      If lots of people buy him today until 1:30 AM, the prices change at that time everyday.

      1. Hazz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 3 months ago

        He's price locked after going from red flagged > available.

        1. Randaxus
          • 5 Years
          2 years, 3 months ago

          oh yeah I forgot about that.

    2. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      Until 04 Jan 07:30 PM, GMT

  16. My heart goes Salalalalah
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    Palmer = 181.5k green arrow. Just Trip & Gordon returns too please...

    1. Steve The Spud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      Just broke Into the top 4 million ?

      1. My heart goes Salalalalah
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 3 months ago

        500k. Same thing

        1. Steve The Spud
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 3 months ago

          Haha, nice - me to

    2. GoonerSteve
      • 16 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      I benched home and I've dropped from 64k to 115k overall. Ouch.

    3. Supersonic_
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      Nice one, who knows with the rest Toon might be less awful. The way the season is panning out, wouldn't be surprised with returns from both tbf. More points rotting on the bench for most.

    4. Bluetiger1
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      Link - where to go to see in game rise?

  17. Total Foot 5
    • 12 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    Ross the boss
    Delivering again. Assist

  18. Lecky Legs FC
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    17 pts already off Doughty and Barkley here’s hoping captain Watkins doesn’t blank now :S

  19. Supersonic_
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    2.9 M OR No Palmer gang, where we at and have you lost hope?

    1. The Mentaculus
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      o/
      Down c.500k - 1.9m. But none of my players have played yet so there's hope! Had a crap start so its not like I'm going to win this season anyway; just playing for fun, not too bothered about OR

      1. Supersonic_
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 3 months ago

        At 1.9M? I think that's the right approach. What did you finish last season out of curiosity?

        I had some good fortune last season on captaincy picks, which so far this season has gone the opposite way.

        1. The Mentaculus
          • 4 Years
          2 years, 3 months ago

          1.1m 😳 Got a bit too frisky chasing & dropped 400k in the final GW. Bit embarrassing after finishing 94k in my first season but I think its fair to describe my playing style as swingy!

  20. Merlin the Wraith
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    Cash's only appearance this gw is a slot on Football focus. Joke for BBC to describe him as Villa's RB

  21. Jebiga
    • 14 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    Halland captain went fine with Son vc and Palmer first on the bench

  22. Sun Jihai
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    Drawbacks to having a strong WC team - Palmer and Doughty on bench
    https://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/23409/event/20/

  23. shirtless
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    Palmer first sub all present and correct

    1. Rodney
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      This is where I wish FPL had a 'super-sub' chip.

      1. Supersonic_
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 3 months ago

        Wouldn't mind a redo season chip

      2. shirtless
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        2 years, 3 months ago

        Pray for someone not turning up. Or lasagne!

    2. GoonerSteve
      • 16 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      It's a killer. Weeks of small gains wiped out with one regrettable bench decision.

  24. Touré De Force
    • 15 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    OK, need to let Solanke play before I let this get on top of my mental health

    1. Hurnt
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      It’s just a game

    2. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      Go for a run, if you're able.

  25. have you seen cyan
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    Hwang time!

    1. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      I'll get out my Jordan's.

  26. Rupert The Horse
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    Oh wonderful. Gusto and Disasi yc for zeros. My rival has both.

    1. Supersonic_
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 3 months ago

      Anti FPL King?

  27. The Ilfordian
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    Odds on the time of the first goal at the Etihad?

    And do you think City will be able to get one back?

  28. RICICLE
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    Seen a fair few considering benching Palmer last night, I hope I helped a little to whoever it was I was telling to absolutely not bench him!

  29. jacob1989
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 3 months ago

    What a great start to the gw thanks to palmer!
    Still just 21.7% owned