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4 August 2015 5434 comments
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With a busy summer of pre-season friendlies behind us, Fantasy managers have been given plenty of hints on potential formations and starting XIs for Gameweek 1.

Manchester United’s summer schedule has afforded a fair indication as to where Memphis Depay and Wayne Rooney will be deployed. There’s also form to consider, with Theo Walcott and Raheem Sterling demonstrating plenty of pace and menace over the summer, while Christian Benteke signalled his intent with a debut strike for Liverpool ahead of their opener with Stoke.

With all this in mind, we ask the “Burning Question”: how much stock should we put in pre-season?

Simon March (FPL winner 2014/15) says…
Pre-season is a better indicator of some things than others. For example, it can offer guidance on a manager’s favoured line-ups and formations, which, as we get closer to the season start, tend to become less experimental and a more reliable view of how that team will actually play. Of course, there are several potential agitators to even this information, such as the player fatigue that follows international tournaments or the open transfer window. These need to be taken into account when judging the reliability of what we see in pre-season.

It’s also worth bearing in mind that not all pre-season matches are created equal. There’s a big difference between exhibition clashes on a tour and more competitive matches such as the Europa League qualifiers or the Community Shield. The latter type of fixture is, we would assume, a manifestation of what a manager perceives to be his best available XI, playing in their best formation and, therefore, should be better indicators of what to expect going forwards.

The reliability of pre-season performances as a barometer of player form is even more difficult to assess. This is partly because of the fleeting nature of form itself but, also, because a player’s performances cannot be viewed in isolation. For example, Raheem Sterling scoring a brace in a recent friendly sounds encouraging, until you see that the opposition was the Vietnam XI. There’s a danger that we only look at part of the information and become subject to that old enemy of Fantasy managers; confirmation bias. Again, the quality of the opposition and the competitiveness of the fixture are key considerations.

Given the apparent unreliability of much of what it demonstrates, it’s tempting to write-off pre-season form altogether but I don’t think it is always entirely misleading. Where it seems to fail us most is when it comes to ‘bargain-hunting’ (I’m looking at you Mauro Boselli and Danny Graham) but, even during the main season, it is the form of budget players that tends to be the most transient. Where I think pre-season displays can be somewhat more indicative is when it’s being demonstrated by a previously proven FPL performer, preferably against solid opposition. Last season, for example, Aaron Ramsey followed-up a strong pre-season with two goals in his first couple of fixtures.

Overall, pre-season form offers a small set of mostly unreliable data and, for those reasons, should not be the principle influence on our selection. But that doesn’t mean it’s totally meaningless. Rather it’s a matter of viewing the overall context, picking out the more reliable indicators and using these, and only these, to inform our choices.

D1sable says…
For me, there are two important things to take from pre-season. The first concerns a player’s level of fitness. Has he had the minutes to be at his best? Is he likely to start the season after summer exploits? These can surely give an indication if the player is likely to start, which surely is the single most important factor in Fantasy Football.

Secondly, how are the team lining up? Is their new signing being shifted up into the front three? Is he taking a share of set pieces? These can give indications of potential for sure, though, on the other hand, if a full squad isn’t available for selection, it can also be a little misleading, so some research is recommended before diving in.

Aside from these two points, I genuinely think pre-season form matters very little, given that so many opponents are far from the calibre you’d expect to find in the Premier League.

Applebonkers says…
Pre-season is all we have for a month so, admit it or not, it chauffeurs our attentions from player to player. Wigan’s Mauro Boselli is the obvious example of a player to shine in pre-season but fall flat in the Premier League. Arguably, Jozy Altidore’s international hat-trick for USA four days before the season started carries the most guilt.

So the only time “form” plays any part now is as part of the word “formation”. With four new managers, an obscene amount of summer signings and a trio of promoted sides added to the mix, there are lots of unknowns, which the final friendly specifically provides some insight into. That insight should be limited to starting place and starting position, though. Past knowledge of the player and future hunches should do the rest.

Jonty says…
Pre-season is littered with traps, with squad players shining brightly on a Tuesday night against Gravesend, Burton Albion or the best XI Vietnam can muster, only to be dropped when the season gets underway and they have to face proper Premier League opposition.

I gain little knowledge from a player scoring against minnows in a friendly but that is not to say pre-season is not without its uses. The schedule of friendlies can be useful to clarify existing ideas about players. With a good summer under his belt, I go into 2015/16 with high hopes that Mesut Ozil will do well. Pre-season has shown me that he has the manager’s support and is delivering against some top sides, as well as some lesser ones.

In contrast, I’m still unsure as to whether Wayne Rooney, Memphis Depay or Juan Mata will be the best Manchester United option and the summer matches haven’t helped either. The Red Devils have looked brilliant and laboured in equal measure of late, which has offered me little guidance. I’ll most likely go for Rooney as a seasoned performer.

Each year I tend to stick with players in my Gameweek 1 squad who have delivered for me in previous years and have favourable fixtures, such as Rooney. A good or poor pre-season performance can help with such decisions, but rarely do they dictate them.

Evs says…
Fantasy managers need to carry out some pre-season research, particularly to understand where or when a new signing will fit into already established teams. I often use the last match prior to the season getting underway as a good indicator, as most coaches tend to give their starting team a trial run before the big kick off.

Obviously we need to be careful of a big or expensive signing and jumping to conclusions that he may take the place of an already-established player. A cracking example of this was Filipe Luis last year, who failed to make an impact for Chelsea in the Premier League.

New signings can always be a gamble based on summer form. For every Michu, the Swansea midfielder who carried his form into the Premier League, there is a Mauro Boselli, who has become synonymous for failed pre-season punting.

Mark says…
I always love to at least try to put some emphasis on pre-season form. I think this is natural because, having gone to the trouble of tracking player progress for behind-closed-doors training matches and Tuesday night trips to Exeter, I want some kind of pay-off for my efforts. I want to take a punt on a player with strong pre-season form to justify my toils in maintaining lists of teamsheets, goals and assists when others, including some notable players, are reclined by a pool.

In reality, history has taught me that putting too much stock in that striker who scores a glut of summer goals is dangerous.

Having said that, with fitness analysts at play in every club, there’s no doubt that Premier League managers have their players tracked meticulously during this spell. The minutes spent on the pitch are logged and analysed and only 11 players who have proved their fitness will cross the line in Gameweek 1. With this in mind, we have to take notice and use the information gleaned as a guide to our own decisions.

For me, two players stand out and their performances in pre-season has convinced me that I have to take their application to my squad seriously – they are Theo Walcott and Raheem Sterling. Both look fired up and, quite literally, “up to speed” to the point that I believe they will terrorise defenders from the get-go.

Would I have had the confidence in them to select them without studying pre-season progress? Maybe, but like many things with Fantasy Football, having more information, having another angle and viewpoint, is just enough to tip a decision and resolve a dilemma.

Demi says…
I don’t think pre-season should have much influence on who we pick based on their goal scoring exploits. However, it’s always nice when a player you were already considering notches a couple over the summer just to reaffirm your belief. In reality, there shouldn’t be a great deal read into it, because pre-season is mainly used to get players’ fitness up and give manager’s an idea of who’s going to feature prominently in their first team plans. It obviously isn’t played with the same intensity as a competitive match and the goals scored during summer friendlies aren’t cherished or remembered by the players/clubs once the campaign kicks off.

Pre-season can be very important to get a feel of players starting positions, and the formations that managers are likely to stick with for the start of the campaign. It can also be a decent indicator of which fringe/youth players could enter our thoughts for the budget positions in the squad at some point in the season if their are injuries to the first XI at any point in the season.

Ryan says…
I take very little from pre-season matches. The whole point of summer friendlies is for the entire squad to gain match fitness and be up to speed for the campaign ahead. Form should be taken with a large grain of salt because we cannot expect either team in a friendly to playing at 100%.

We can perhaps get a gauge on likely first team players. Some managers have played their pre-season fixtures with an obvious first and second team. This might give a strong indication as to who the manager considers to be first choice. I think it’s clear who Louis Van Gaal considers as first choice for Manchester United based on the two-team set-up he employed in the USA tour, for example.

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  1. The Royal Robin
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Why do I keep looking at Sterling in my team thinking he shouldn't be there?

    Anyone else got their doubts? I'm fully expecting to be proved wrong by him but £9m is a lot of money to fluff.

    1. Shiner
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      i just put him in for Depay......

    2. super zlatan
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I don't really want to go into MNF with no city coverage.
      Keep him.

      1. Sánchez
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        No big deal with wba CHE eve

      2. The Royal Robin
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        I have literally been keeping him in a team I have changed regularly for 3 days now - only on the basis he is the only City player I have.

        1. reason17
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Likewise.

    3. S.Kuqi
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I have no doubts about Sterling.

      Proven pl player in better team and pre season form. Can't see any reason why wouldn't he start with a bang.

    4. Heydudes13
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Think he's a great option just put off by those three early fixtures.

      1. Exilizer
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        I dont know why everyone is so concerned with those fixtures. apart from chelsea looks fine to me.

        1. Heydudes13
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          wba (Pulis effect) & eve will be no pushovers

          Basically has less chance of getting big hauls in those fixtures imo.

    5. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Very happy with him.

  2. Eden Eden
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Affelay or Mahrez??

    1. super zlatan
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Interesting user name.

    2. The Governor
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Mahrez, better fixtures

  3. Tmel
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Butland Hennesey
    Azpi Mertesacker Francis Huth 4.0
    Mane Ozil Walcott Haz Sinclair
    Roon Pelle Sakho

    Think I'm there! Thoughts?

    1. super zlatan
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      It's generally solid. Few players I would swap about but it's all personal preferences.

      Good luck

      1. Tmel
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Cheers Zlatan, out of curiousity, who would you change?

        1. super zlatan
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Since you have mane I would lol to change Pelle to benteke.
          I think he is in for a big season. And he may wrestle pens of hendo.

          Defence looks good.

          Midfield looks good too. Maybe change ozil to Ramsey but that's my personal choice as I'm a big Ramsey fan.

          1. super zlatan
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            *look

          2. Tmel
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Thanks, good advice. If I had 0.5 I'd definitely be going Benteke, unfortunately can't find where to squeeze that extra cash from

            1. super zlatan
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              Sinclair > 4.5
              Pelle > benteke

    2. Keep the Faith
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Merts to cedric and a 4.5 def who rotates

      1. Tmel
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Did consider this but didn't really want triple Southampton

    3. C_G
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      just find a way to replace pelle, but i like it man! good luck!

  4. Keep the Faith
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    When does it start to quiet down on here its hard to get advise with the pages flying by

    1. Exilizer
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      2 am

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      2am probably.
      All this week will be a bit of a struggle.

    3. S.Kuqi
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      4.00 gmt

    4. The Royal Robin
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Never.

    5. Sánchez
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Saturday 9am to 10:30am

      1. Rupert The Horse
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Dirty.

    6. Slam
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      End of the season

      1. Keep the Faith
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        lol thanks all 🙂

    7. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      June.

    8. WorldCupDanB
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Yep, it's the major negative aspect of this site and they've never really addressed it. I guess best time would be an hour or so

      1. Gashead9
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        How could you address it though? But yea, anytime after midnight is quieter at least, use your profile to check your posts for replies, dont get bogged down in the mayhem and reply to the posts your involved in.

        1. WorldCupDanB
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Well this is a case in point, I might come up with the best idea ever raised on these boards and the only person who will see it is me, maybe you if you come back and very maybe somebody lurking.

          Basically there should be a way to favourite threads, then there should be a section next to hot topics which should have a number at the top to show how many favourites have a had a response, in this section you should the last post for like the last five of the threads you've favourited. Then you click on either the post which brings you here to read the responses and respond or click at the top to take you to a section like the profile to see all the favourited articles.

          Something like that, its just a shame that because the FFS concept is broken hardly anybody will see this and so there cant be any real dialogue

  5. Exilizer
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Sooo, how many of you are going without Hazard?

    1. C_G
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      ME haha, and im glad

      1. C_G
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        what's your team like?

        1. Exilizer
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Still early drafts.

          Front 8 currently:

          Sterling, Depay, Ramsey, Ritchie, Sinclair

          Costa, Kane, Deeney.

          Will swap to benteke if costa unfit.

          1. C_G
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            i like it, your strikers are immense, not convinced on sakho, and a stronger mid instead?

          2. Piggs Boson
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            No Hazard, but you still have 2 promted attackers?!

            1. Exilizer
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              Yeah I know, that is what keeps bothering me, as I said, early stages.

          3. C_G
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            this is my current team, quite happy with the balance

            Pants / Hennesey

            Azpi / Koscielny / Cedric / Huth / Francis

            Sterling / Fabregas / Walcott / Mane / Fletch

            Benteke / Sakho / Rooney

    2. Lizard Lips
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      why would anyone go without the best player in the game?

      1. Exilizer
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Money. Is the extra 2-3 million over most other excellent options worth 30-50 extra points at the end of the season?

        1. C_G
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          this

        2. Lizard Lips
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          He's worth 60+ points on the likes of Ozil, so yes, it's definitely worth it.

        3. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          I hear this every season. Happened last season with aguero debate where people said he wasn't worth the money and they could have pelle instead

          aguero knocked in 4 v spurs and then went on a run, which proved he was worth the value

          1. Exilizer
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Aguero is in a different league in my opinion, but admittedly only Hazard comes close to that.

    3. The Royal Robin
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I've considered it, but if he starts scoring do you really want to fall behind what will be a good 3m people playing.

    4. Wings Fan
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      All those guys can't answer you as they've had their restraints tied and padded cells locked down by now 🙂

      1. C_G
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        haha im far from second-guessing it mate, my team is really balanced, it's crazy what you can do with those extra funds

    5. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      considering it on the basis he looked quiet at the weekend and he may take time to find his cutting edge again like last season

      1. Exilizer
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        These are my thoughts, I think initially it will be fabregas again who starts off well.

      2. C_G
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        exactly, you can always rake him in after a few weeks, 11.5 is way too steep imo

        1. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          its not that he is too steep. he is only 0.5 more than costa and he is a better fantasy option than costa. just that I'm happy with fabregas until haz finds his shooting boots

          1. Lizard Lips
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            It's a risky strategy, don't see the upside really. Haz will make you pay!

            1. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
              • 13 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              i have 2.5 set aside for sanchez upgrade. can easily be haz if he looks like tearing it up from the beginning

          2. C_G
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            yeah i meant steep to begin with, if he's in form by gw3 i'll gladly get him, im more than happy with a well-rounded team for now

    6. WwFcChIgS
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Me, takes up too much cash, can't have him and Aguero in the same team without the rest of the team mainly being poor

      1. Exilizer
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        And then it comes down to having a fit Aguero or a fit Hazard in your team. And then you look at what teams they play for and there is really only one option, in Aguero.

  6. Coon
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    A or b?
    A) Ivan - Kos - Hendo - pelle
    B) azpi - mert - mane - benteke

    1. Morbius
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      b

  7. Jackie Can
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Evening gents,

    Decided to go 3-5-2 after last years telling end of year stats and the lack of proper forward options.
    I'm thinking Sakho won't be able to cope this season with the demands of the Europa.

    Currently:

    --------------------------------Panti-------------------------------- Fodder
    --------Azpi-----------------Coates-----------------Kosc.------ Gomez, Targett
    ---Silva-------Mata------Hendo--------Cazorla-----Ozil----
    -------------------Rooney----------Benteke-------------------- Fodder

    What do you guys think of mata over fab?
    Cba to think about fitting in hazard atm, but I was just looking at fab in my team and thinking there's no way he can score more than mata given equal minutes....

    Anyway all thoughts appreciated boys (and girls)

    1. super zlatan
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Needs hazard. Badly.

  8. JPeg
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Best 4m defender? At the moment I'm looking at baker simply because he's most owned. Is this a red herring? Staylor likely to get game time? Not interested in targett because he'll play the first 3 weeks. I need someone who'll nail down a slot and finn think he will.

    1. JPeg
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Don't think he will°

    2. che
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      None will, that's why they're 4.0

  9. S.Kuqi
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    I probably end up with one 4.0 defender. So better to take a punt with Oxford?

    If i'm lucky he might play those "easy" home games?

  10. Eden Eden
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Cech - Schwarzer
    Baines - Fonte - Williams - Ward - Lescott
    Hazard - Ozil - Henderson - Sinclair - Affelay/Mahrez
    Rooney - Benteke - Berahino

    1 mil left in the bank, Thoughts?

    1. Shiner
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Baines > Azpi.

    2. S.Kuqi
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      First team i have seen with Baines innit 😯

      1. Eden Eden
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        He would be a bit of a punt

  11. Shiner
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    I think i'm close....

    Fabianski - Hennessey
    Clyne - Cedric - Mertesacker - Francis - 4.0
    Hazard - Sterling - Ozil - Ritchie - Wanayama
    Rooney - Pelle - Wilson

    3.0 ITB for Pelle > Benteke & then Rooney - Aguero.

    Opinions appreciated please lads....

    1. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Actually I like it.

      1. Shiner
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Thanks. I could have Koscielny instead of Mert but it would tie up another 0.5 which means i couldn't do the Pelle > Benteke move.... I don't think thats worth it IMO...

  12. The Royal Robin
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    I wish I could afford Mane.

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 16 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      You can.

    2. che
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Just get Tadic instead. On pens

  13. che
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    First three fixtures aren't great. Wait and see I reckon. Wally better for now IMO.

    1. che
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Reply fail

      1. The Royal Robin
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        I thought as much. No worries.

    2. The Royal Robin
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Saints first 3 fixtures not great?

  14. Triple J
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    looking for that one cheap forward to make it possible to upgrade that fifth midfielder. Suggestions?

    1. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      How cheap?

    2. che
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Sakho, Berahino or Deeney

  15. semiconductor
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    would u please rate my team and plans??

    ruddy rudd
    mertz cedric francis huth coates/richards
    hazard ozil sterling cazorla westwood
    rooney benteke sakho

    plans:
    1.get augero instead of rooney and ritchie or any better performing mid (6.0m or less) instead of the worst mid (between cazorla and ozil)

    2. check who is better sanchez or hazard..
    if hazard then no chances,
    if sanchez, then downgrade hazard to fab/walcott and upgrade cazorla or ozil to sanchez

    1. Jonny JAB
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Personally not a fan of the Arsenal double up but up to you, could downgrade one > Mane and use the 0.5m on your backline?

      Other than that, good to go!

  16. ssssshhh
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    For all those people going for Azpi, are they expecting to see a serious amount of bonus points and assists? If he's just in to cover Chelsea clean sheets then I don't get why more people aren't opting for Courtois.

    A variation of the following back line sets you back £35m:

    Ruddy / Butland
    Kos / Azpi / Cedric / Huth / Francis

    Whereas a variation of the following is only £34m:

    Courtois / 4m
    Kos / Cedric / Munisea / Bassong / Francis

    Obviously you lose one of your routes into a budget defence but in the first line up that defender would barely get a look in anyway. This is also off set by the additional flexibility that a 3 way rotation offers.

    Am I missing something?

    1. Shiner
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Azpi gets decent bonus points.

  17. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Best 4.5m defender???

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 16 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Rennett 😛

      1. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Stop trolling on every my post. I don't remember me trolling yours. Renett was good before they signed Wisdom !!!

        1. TorresMagic™
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          • 16 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Costa yesterday? Wisdom probably won't start either.

      2. Exilizer
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Right...

    2. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Tbc.

      1. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Educated guess please

        1. Exilizer
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Pick one form Huth, Francis or Coates

        2. Mull
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Probably Huth. Nice fixtures and nailed on for a team with a defensive manager. If we can find which one of the 4.5m Sunderland defenders is most nailed on it'll be him.

  18. TheCurseOfRaheem
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Thoughts on this? Too heavy at the back?

    Cech/Hennessey
    Ivan, Azpili, Micah, Huth, Mings
    Hazard, Walcott, Sterling, Mahrez, Wanyama
    Rooney, Benteke, Wilson

    1. The Royal Robin
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      What formation are you playing with that team?

      Looks great.

  19. rozzo
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    How am I looking?

    Schmeichel (Schwarzer)
    Ivanovic Bellerin Cedric (Francis Oxford)
    Hazard Walcott Depay Mane (Surman)
    Kane Pelle Sakho

    1. The Royal Robin
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Second time I've seen a team with 'Oxford' in. Somebody fill me in?

      1. Morbius
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Reece (?) Oxford - West Ham

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Correct.

        2. The Royal Robin
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Will he start though?

      2. Fresco
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        I believe Oxford should fill in at RB in GW1 for Jenkinson who can't play against Arsenal due to loan conditions

        1. Fresco
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          nope, not really. he's been deployed as a CDM actually in pre-season

        2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Oh, dear.You have got that wrong. He is a LCB, or a DM.

          Burke is the one who will fill in at RB ...

          1. FPL Daniel
            • 16 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Tomkins will play RB in GW1

            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              It is possible, but very unlikely. He will play LCB.

  20. sinik
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    in a 343 with Haz, Rooney, Kane and Pelle/Lukaku

    A) Wally and Rambo/Ozil (and no other Arsenal)
    B) Wally and Mane (and no other Arsenal)

    1. Morbius
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Pelle.

      A. (Ozil)

      1. sinik
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        is it because you prefer Pelle and Ozil to double Soton since you don't like Lukaku?

  21. Piggs Boson
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    United v Spurs predictions? Can United beat them 3-0 again?
    .

    United 3-1 Spurs (Rooney x2, Mata, Kane)

    1. The Royal Robin
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Am I right in saying Rooney has a good record vs Spurs?

    2. Optimus.
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      1-1

    3. super zlatan
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      2.0. Rooney. Mata

      1. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Both teams to score and at least 3 goals

        1. sinik
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          that's what everyone said last time before the 3-0 because they underestimated the effect of Carrick..and now we have the likes of Schweinsteiger and Schneiderlin as well

    4. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      1-0 United

      Scrappy goal

  22. damiang2233
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Cech Schmeichel
    Fonte Bellerin Ivanonvic Valencia Clyne
    Hazard Silva Depay Cazorla Wanyanma
    Rooney Ings

    Money all spent but short one forward so where can i make a bit funds from??

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Lose Ings and Valencia. You can only play 11 a week.

      1. damiang2233
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Right so who do i put in??

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Need to downgrade a defender & probably a mid.
          Plenty of cheaper options.

      2. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Defence & mids too expensive.

  23. Sterling-Silva
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    ou guys seem to know what you're talking about so I will see what you can tell me about my team. My starting 11 is:

    Stekelenburg
    Mert, Cahill, Cedric
    Cesc, Walcott, Hendo, Cazorla
    Pelle, Kane, Rooney

    Subs:,
    Schwarzer, Turner, Smith, Barry

    Got Pelle in the team purely due to the fact that he is Southampton's no.1 Striker and their opening games look very favourable. Hoping Walcott will start and play up front and Rooney is the only striker left at Man United who seems capable of getting 20+ goals this season.

    Would love to hear your thoughts!

  24. 4vets
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Hahaha... still loving the circular idiocy that is occurring here. One person promotes a useless idea and then others do the same. This place is amazing! 😆

    1. super zlatan
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Evening pal. Nothing changes!! 😉

    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      How dare you call my ideas useless! 😉

    3. Optimus.
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Yeah lol @ those getting in Aguero from the start 😆

      1. Slam
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        What's wrong with that?

      2. 4vets
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Bugger!

      3. Exilizer
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        You have opened my eyes Optimus 🙂

    4. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      which idiocy are you referring to?

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        There are so many ... 😀

        1. The Royal Robin
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Please don't tell me Ruddy / Rudd is idiocy? 😉

          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            But it is ... 😆

            1. The Royal Robin
              • 10 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              Who are your GK's Doosra?

      2. 4vets
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        I really can't list them all but some of the "advice" here is atrocious and I wonder where it comes from.

        Still, we're one week away from "normality" 🙂

    5. Heydudes13
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Classic cryptic elitism.

      1. 4vets
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Maybe, but sadly so true.

      2. Mull
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Down with the bourgeoisie!

        1. 4vets
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Up yer arsenal!

        2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Up the proletariat!!! 😆

    6. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Plant some yourself and watch them grow 😉

      1. 4vets
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        I'm not a mean person 🙁

  25. DuckduckD
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    .// RMT (3-5-2) /with 3.0m In The Bank

    Schmeichel / Schwarzer

    Mings / Azpilicueta / Darmian Jenkinson / Steven Taylor

    Payet / Depay / Hazard / Henderson / Cazorla

    Rooney / Wilson / Hooper

    .// Intend on rotating Jenkinson and Mings for a nice run of home games.

    .// Planned Free Transfers

    After GW2: Cazorla > Sanchez

    After GW3: Payet and Rooney > Aguero and 5.5 Mid

    .// Thank you for reading, any suggestions will be much appreciated.

    1. asmann
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Weak attack, consider dropping Hendo, payet or depay and getting kane.

  26. The Royal Robin
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Tadic anyone?

    1. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Prefer Milner at that price.

    2. In Like Flynn.
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      He'll have his moments again I reckon it's just a matter of whether you can guess when just before they start.
      I shall try and find the extra for Mane or go without either and shut my eyes and pray they don't kill my team.

  27. blauriecon
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Schmeichel
    Azpilicueta Jagielka Koscileny
    Cazorla Hazard Mane Sterling
    Lukaku Rooney Wilson
    Schwarzer Wanyama O'Shea Baker
    What do you think?

    1. blauriecon
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      *Koscielny

    2. super zlatan
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Don't like jags at all.

      For that price take a punt on darmain prehaps?

      Rest is fine.

  28. asmann
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    RMT

    Cech ( Schwarzer)

    Darmian Cedric Creswell Wisdom (Baker)

    Mane Cazorla Sterling Depay (Sinclair)

    Rooney Rodriguez Kane

    *******************************
    1. Pelle or Rodriguez is the main dilemma here, they have both scored the same amount of goals in preseason, although Rodriguez is back from an injury but is 1 mil cheaper.
    2. Will Cedric Start?
    3. Creswell or Rose, both have good run ins after GW1

  29. reason17
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Rate My Team Please!

    Pantilimon, Hennesy
    Mertesacker, Cedric, Francis, Huth, (Ward)
    Cazorla, Hazard, Sterling, Henderson, (Wanyama)
    Rooney, Kane, (Sakho) 😀

    1. GreennRed
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I like.

    2. In Like Flynn.
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Could be special. Worth a shout and at least you have a few different.

  30. Indio
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    So now it's the witching hour, can I ask how the team below is looking for a 'Ghost Ship' side (ie no transfers allowed?). Any obvious holes here? I was planning to join a 'no changes' league with a mate and just go low-maintenance this year, but now I kinda like the team...

    Ruddy/Rudd
    Ivano, Bellerin, Huth, Francis, Cedric
    Haz, Fab, Sterling, Mahrez, Wanyama
    Benteke, Rooney, Berahino

    1. Exilizer
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      If it is for a dead team, you better get aguero in there.

      1. Indio
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Thanks, was thinking that - makes drafting the rest of team so tough though.

    2. In Like Flynn.
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I think no Arsenal in the front 8 is going to hurt, but then are those of us with one or two going to find the right ones?

      1. Indio
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Thanks mate, and very good point on Arsenal coverage - I tried hard to get Wally and Aguero in there for Sterling and Rooney, but I just couldn't complete a viable rest-of-team. Also, it's interesting how going for season keepers (or attempting to, anyhow!) influences the picks.