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4 August 2015 5434 comments
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With a busy summer of pre-season friendlies behind us, Fantasy managers have been given plenty of hints on potential formations and starting XIs for Gameweek 1.

Manchester United’s summer schedule has afforded a fair indication as to where Memphis Depay and Wayne Rooney will be deployed. There’s also form to consider, with Theo Walcott and Raheem Sterling demonstrating plenty of pace and menace over the summer, while Christian Benteke signalled his intent with a debut strike for Liverpool ahead of their opener with Stoke.

With all this in mind, we ask the “Burning Question”: how much stock should we put in pre-season?

Simon March (FPL winner 2014/15) says…
Pre-season is a better indicator of some things than others. For example, it can offer guidance on a manager’s favoured line-ups and formations, which, as we get closer to the season start, tend to become less experimental and a more reliable view of how that team will actually play. Of course, there are several potential agitators to even this information, such as the player fatigue that follows international tournaments or the open transfer window. These need to be taken into account when judging the reliability of what we see in pre-season.

It’s also worth bearing in mind that not all pre-season matches are created equal. There’s a big difference between exhibition clashes on a tour and more competitive matches such as the Europa League qualifiers or the Community Shield. The latter type of fixture is, we would assume, a manifestation of what a manager perceives to be his best available XI, playing in their best formation and, therefore, should be better indicators of what to expect going forwards.

The reliability of pre-season performances as a barometer of player form is even more difficult to assess. This is partly because of the fleeting nature of form itself but, also, because a player’s performances cannot be viewed in isolation. For example, Raheem Sterling scoring a brace in a recent friendly sounds encouraging, until you see that the opposition was the Vietnam XI. There’s a danger that we only look at part of the information and become subject to that old enemy of Fantasy managers; confirmation bias. Again, the quality of the opposition and the competitiveness of the fixture are key considerations.

Given the apparent unreliability of much of what it demonstrates, it’s tempting to write-off pre-season form altogether but I don’t think it is always entirely misleading. Where it seems to fail us most is when it comes to ‘bargain-hunting’ (I’m looking at you Mauro Boselli and Danny Graham) but, even during the main season, it is the form of budget players that tends to be the most transient. Where I think pre-season displays can be somewhat more indicative is when it’s being demonstrated by a previously proven FPL performer, preferably against solid opposition. Last season, for example, Aaron Ramsey followed-up a strong pre-season with two goals in his first couple of fixtures.

Overall, pre-season form offers a small set of mostly unreliable data and, for those reasons, should not be the principle influence on our selection. But that doesn’t mean it’s totally meaningless. Rather it’s a matter of viewing the overall context, picking out the more reliable indicators and using these, and only these, to inform our choices.

D1sable says…
For me, there are two important things to take from pre-season. The first concerns a player’s level of fitness. Has he had the minutes to be at his best? Is he likely to start the season after summer exploits? These can surely give an indication if the player is likely to start, which surely is the single most important factor in Fantasy Football.

Secondly, how are the team lining up? Is their new signing being shifted up into the front three? Is he taking a share of set pieces? These can give indications of potential for sure, though, on the other hand, if a full squad isn’t available for selection, it can also be a little misleading, so some research is recommended before diving in.

Aside from these two points, I genuinely think pre-season form matters very little, given that so many opponents are far from the calibre you’d expect to find in the Premier League.

Applebonkers says…
Pre-season is all we have for a month so, admit it or not, it chauffeurs our attentions from player to player. Wigan’s Mauro Boselli is the obvious example of a player to shine in pre-season but fall flat in the Premier League. Arguably, Jozy Altidore’s international hat-trick for USA four days before the season started carries the most guilt.

So the only time “form” plays any part now is as part of the word “formation”. With four new managers, an obscene amount of summer signings and a trio of promoted sides added to the mix, there are lots of unknowns, which the final friendly specifically provides some insight into. That insight should be limited to starting place and starting position, though. Past knowledge of the player and future hunches should do the rest.

Jonty says…
Pre-season is littered with traps, with squad players shining brightly on a Tuesday night against Gravesend, Burton Albion or the best XI Vietnam can muster, only to be dropped when the season gets underway and they have to face proper Premier League opposition.

I gain little knowledge from a player scoring against minnows in a friendly but that is not to say pre-season is not without its uses. The schedule of friendlies can be useful to clarify existing ideas about players. With a good summer under his belt, I go into 2015/16 with high hopes that Mesut Ozil will do well. Pre-season has shown me that he has the manager’s support and is delivering against some top sides, as well as some lesser ones.

In contrast, I’m still unsure as to whether Wayne Rooney, Memphis Depay or Juan Mata will be the best Manchester United option and the summer matches haven’t helped either. The Red Devils have looked brilliant and laboured in equal measure of late, which has offered me little guidance. I’ll most likely go for Rooney as a seasoned performer.

Each year I tend to stick with players in my Gameweek 1 squad who have delivered for me in previous years and have favourable fixtures, such as Rooney. A good or poor pre-season performance can help with such decisions, but rarely do they dictate them.

Evs says…
Fantasy managers need to carry out some pre-season research, particularly to understand where or when a new signing will fit into already established teams. I often use the last match prior to the season getting underway as a good indicator, as most coaches tend to give their starting team a trial run before the big kick off.

Obviously we need to be careful of a big or expensive signing and jumping to conclusions that he may take the place of an already-established player. A cracking example of this was Filipe Luis last year, who failed to make an impact for Chelsea in the Premier League.

New signings can always be a gamble based on summer form. For every Michu, the Swansea midfielder who carried his form into the Premier League, there is a Mauro Boselli, who has become synonymous for failed pre-season punting.

Mark says…
I always love to at least try to put some emphasis on pre-season form. I think this is natural because, having gone to the trouble of tracking player progress for behind-closed-doors training matches and Tuesday night trips to Exeter, I want some kind of pay-off for my efforts. I want to take a punt on a player with strong pre-season form to justify my toils in maintaining lists of teamsheets, goals and assists when others, including some notable players, are reclined by a pool.

In reality, history has taught me that putting too much stock in that striker who scores a glut of summer goals is dangerous.

Having said that, with fitness analysts at play in every club, there’s no doubt that Premier League managers have their players tracked meticulously during this spell. The minutes spent on the pitch are logged and analysed and only 11 players who have proved their fitness will cross the line in Gameweek 1. With this in mind, we have to take notice and use the information gleaned as a guide to our own decisions.

For me, two players stand out and their performances in pre-season has convinced me that I have to take their application to my squad seriously – they are Theo Walcott and Raheem Sterling. Both look fired up and, quite literally, “up to speed” to the point that I believe they will terrorise defenders from the get-go.

Would I have had the confidence in them to select them without studying pre-season progress? Maybe, but like many things with Fantasy Football, having more information, having another angle and viewpoint, is just enough to tip a decision and resolve a dilemma.

Demi says…
I don’t think pre-season should have much influence on who we pick based on their goal scoring exploits. However, it’s always nice when a player you were already considering notches a couple over the summer just to reaffirm your belief. In reality, there shouldn’t be a great deal read into it, because pre-season is mainly used to get players’ fitness up and give manager’s an idea of who’s going to feature prominently in their first team plans. It obviously isn’t played with the same intensity as a competitive match and the goals scored during summer friendlies aren’t cherished or remembered by the players/clubs once the campaign kicks off.

Pre-season can be very important to get a feel of players starting positions, and the formations that managers are likely to stick with for the start of the campaign. It can also be a decent indicator of which fringe/youth players could enter our thoughts for the budget positions in the squad at some point in the season if their are injuries to the first XI at any point in the season.

Ryan says…
I take very little from pre-season matches. The whole point of summer friendlies is for the entire squad to gain match fitness and be up to speed for the campaign ahead. Form should be taken with a large grain of salt because we cannot expect either team in a friendly to playing at 100%.

We can perhaps get a gauge on likely first team players. Some managers have played their pre-season fixtures with an obvious first and second team. This might give a strong indication as to who the manager considers to be first choice. I think it’s clear who Louis Van Gaal considers as first choice for Manchester United based on the two-team set-up he employed in the USA tour, for example.

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  1. Total Foot 5
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    evening. Thots on this pls ? thnx

    Ruddy / Butland
    Kos / Merts / Cedric / Huth / Francis
    Haz - Ozil - Mane - Sterling - Sinclair
    Benteke - Pelle - Sakho

    1. tw
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      *thoughts
      *thanks

      interesting that you've doubled on arsenal defense. i'd rather azpi over kos since you've already got mert but the double could be a nice differential if arsenal keep a lot of cs

      overall looks pretty good. no united could be concerning. just keep an eye out because west ham are rumored to be trying to buy hernandez so not sure if that would put sakho's place at risk

    2. Hy liverpool
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      I like it
      only kos for ars.def imo

    3. Arvin-ation
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      I quite like the double Arsenal. Go for it, imo.

      Great team.

    4. Total Foot 5
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      cheers yep as thinking double ase for diff given better fixt than che. at some pt later merts > aspi. will see.
      might do ozil> depay?

  2. tw
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    stuck on bottom of last page:

    could be risky but going with cesc over haz really makes the rest of the team much nicer

    1. Ryan
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      This is undoubtedly true. However Fabregas does have an air of meh'ness about him, no?

      1. tw
        • 14 Years
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        I guess. but he normally does quite well to start the season/in the first half of the season
        plus he makes the rest of my squad look a lot less mehh

        1. Ryan
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          I'm not so sure. Chelsea don't have the easiest of starts and Fabregas didn't look all that great in the CS. I'm starting to think he's not a worthwhile pick, especially as a CM (not as an AM), I think Oscar will get the role in the 10 spot against Swansea.

      2. Oz lotto
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        • 14 Years
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        agreed. Fab will have games where he gets 2 assists and might score the odd goal... but i will happily shell the extra for the certainty hazard provides.

        Fab is no captain option either

      3. Arvin-ation
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        • 12 Years
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        This.

        If you want to go without Hazard, just drop the Chelsea attack as a whole. It's what I've done and I'm loving my team, atm.

        1. Arvin-ation
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          Although, this will definitely not continue into the long run, probably until I WC GW 8 or so.

        2. Ryan
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          I'm still hoping Costa gets fit. I have total confidence in him if he starts and could be another route to Aguero

          1. Arvin-ation
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            I'm hoping for the opposite. 😀 With Costa out, Fabregas won't be performing at his best, and the Chelsea attack will definitely not be the same. What I'd love to ride on for a couple of weeks considering I've only got Courtois from Chelsea till GW 8.

            1. Ryan
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              If Costa is out I think I'll go without Chelsea altogether. Or just get Ivan and hope he smashes it again early season as is tradition.

        3. tw
          • 14 Years
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          mind sharing your team?

          I've got cesc instead of hazard which i'm happy with and i'm rather liking my team too

          1. Arvin-ation
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            • 12 Years
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            I'll post a cheeky RMT in a bit. 🙂

            I had Hazard for a long time, dropped him recently for Fab, then thought I think I can see other mids outscoring him for at least the early fixtures where Chelsea aren't so hot on the ticker.

    2. Salfpilgrimlfc
      • 12 Years
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      Its what ive been debating all pre season did it last season and every game was hiding behind the sofa

      1. tw
        • 14 Years
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        i'll probably be fast asleep so won't have to worry about that 😉

    3. Egg Fried Reus
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      fab usually keeps pace with haz at the start so saving that 2.5m will be well worth it

      1. Ryan
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        Usually? or just last season? Hazard started with a bang when he first arrived in the PL. Yes Fabs is better in the first half of the season but I don't think thats reason enough to think he'll keep pace with Hazard.

      2. Jacques The Lad
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        If you're referencing last season which I assume you are it's worth noting that the fixtures this season are a lot tougher early on

        1. Salfpilgrimlfc
          • 12 Years
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          Doesnt cesc normally perform better against tougher matches than haz as well?

          1. 7alwachi
            • 11 Years
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            Cesc never performs in big matches.

    4. osceola31909
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      • 13 Years
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      I'm leaning towards going without him, especially since I am eventually going to have Aguero. I don't want to have almost 25% of my funds tied up by two players, and if I have Aguero, it is doubtful I will ever captain anyone else. Plus, as good and consistent as Hazard is, he doesn't scare me. Last year, he didn't have a single multi-goal game, not even a brace. He also played more minutes than any other midfielder. Not saying he isn't great and won't score a lot of points this year, but by going with Fab, I can seriously upgrade to other players who will score points too.

      1. Ryan
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        Agreed. I think a lot of Hazard owners don't realise how costly he can be if they intend to have Aguero as well.

        1. NABIL - FPL otai
          • 13 Years
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          Haz + Roo -> Sterling + Kun GW4.

          One route to consider

          1. Nabs Kebabs
            • 14 Years
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            selling Haz vs CPL 😯

            1. NABIL - FPL otai
              • 13 Years
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              Crazy I know but MCI assets could be golden. CRY are no whipping boys.

              Not entirely sold on the idea though

              1. Nabs Kebabs
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                CRY are good in attack but awful in defence imo

      2. Salfpilgrimlfc
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        I like your thinking puts my mind a little more at ease im on the non hazard team

    5. NABIL - FPL otai
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      Agree but I got Haz and my team is still nice imo

    6. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
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      I think I will get Hazard gw1 then switch to Aguero is Hazard looks undercooked.

  3. Salfpilgrimlfc
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    best 4.5 defenders for the season?

    1. Hy liverpool
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      huth
      morgan
      francis
      j.gomiz

      1. Nabs Kebabs
        • 14 Years
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        + Coates + Prodl

        1. Can’t beat em so&hell…
          • 14 Years
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          +Kaboul? Looks like he'll be starting
          + Ward?

          1. Nabs Kebabs
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            Coates looks more secure and looks set for a huge upturn in baps as he has a lot of CBI and tackles but poor pass completion (which is weighted a lot less now) so no need for Kaboul.

            Pardew defender is a worry, ok option imo but not as good as the aforementioned.

  4. Hy liverpool
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    a) cech hennessey j.gomiz & chadli

    or
    b) mignolet Ruddy kos & mahrez

    my fifth mid→ sinclair

  5. Oz lotto
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    • 14 Years
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    Members... has anyone else looked at Azpi vs. Ivan stats tables and still can't make up their mind?

    1. Jacques The Lad
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Doos seems to be favouring Ivan

      1. Test Eagles
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        Many others other preferring Azpil ... greater PPM last year with rotation now not an issue.

        1. Frank Black
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          With Baba there will probably be a little more rotation than last year but not much.

        2. Jacques The Lad
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          I'm going with Azpi myself... i just can't comment on the member's tables

  6. xSJG
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    How does this look? Any feedback welcome.

    Ruddy / Hennessey
    Ivanovic / Koscielny / Mings / Huth / Saylor
    Hazard / Walcott / Sterling / Henderson / Bentaleb
    Rooney / Lambert / Pelle

    1. Bertzeiner-m
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      mind if i copy? haha not sure on your subs though also only Ruddy? i would try and upgrade hennessy seems his move to west brom has broken down other then that very strong!

      1. xSJG
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        Go for it lad, and Speroni is out until the end of the month, so he'll get a few starts at Palace I reckon. Kosc and Ivan will play every week so it's just a question of rotating Mings and Huth as needed. 3 potential defenders is too much of a waste for me.

    2. Can’t beat em so&hell…
      • 14 Years
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      Like that a lot... not much I'd change... Ivan is too much of a luxury for me maybe - how would Azpil improve the rest of your defence?

      1. xSJG
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        Ivanovic always seems to explode at the start of the season, so he's in. See my above comment re: the defence

    3. TJ_777
      • 11 Years
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      Lambert and pelle...

      If u want a punt for striker go for vardy then pursed pelle to Tekkers

      1. xSJG
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Lambert should get regular starts at West Brom, and why not Pelle? Opening fixtures are decent and he has some good form coming into them.

  7. Tebs
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Quick question. Cheers

    A) Koscielny/Hendo, or
    B) 5mil defender/Mane

    1. Bertzeiner-m
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      A for sure

    2. Oz lotto
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
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      Cedric and Mane if it wasn't SOT overkill

      1. Arvin-ation
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        I have triple SOT 😀

        1. NABIL - FPL otai
          • 13 Years
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          same here 😀

        2. Frank Black
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          Don't go with three players from one team.

          1. NABIL - FPL otai
            • 13 Years
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            I disagree

            1. Frank Black
              • 13 Years
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              It's a really bad choice, you're not flexible enough and you risk to not have players of teams that are performing very well. At the same time if the team your three players play in is performing badly you're going to be in big trouble.

              Simon March shares my thought(he's not the only one obviously).

          2. Arvin-ation
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            • 12 Years
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            Why's that? Would love a good reason to convince me. 🙂

            1. NABIL - FPL otai
              • 13 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              No good reason.

              I had triple ARS, CHE & MUN on many occasions in previous season. Turned out well

              Last season I had Pelle, Tadic and Clyne during a certain GW 😉

        3. NZREDS
          • 12 Years
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          me too 🙂

    3. tw
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      B

      cedric mane

    4. NABIL - FPL otai
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      A

    5. Tebs
      • 10 Years
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      Thanks everyone. I'm liking B too. That leaves me with:

      Butland/Henn
      Azpi/Cedric/Mings/Kaboul/Morgan
      Hazard/Sterling/Ozil/Mane/Fletcher
      Kane/Rooney/Wilson

  8. Bertzeiner-m
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    best captain option for GW 1?

    1. Can’t beat em so&hell…
      • 14 Years
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      Safe move has to be Haz?

    2. megatronaldinho
      • 15 Years
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      lukaku gots the fixture

      1. Bertzeiner-m
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        is he injured? what about Pelle?

    3. Arvin-ation
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      • 12 Years
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      Lukaku probably

      1. dmhomag
        • 11 Years
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        Is Lukaku black?

        1. dmhomag
          • 11 Years
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          back*

          1. Arvin-ation
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            Yes 😀

        2. megatronaldinho
          • 15 Years
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          it's not been officially ascertained whether he is black or in fact, a very, very dark white

    4. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 13 Years
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      Haz for security. Followed by Roo.

      The maverick/YOLO type of player will go Wally

      1. NABIL - FPL otai
        • 13 Years
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        or Lukaku perhaps

    5. Bertzeiner-m
      • 10 Years
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      Thanks!

    6. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 16 Years
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      Arsenal/Villa attacks might be a good outside punt. But the question is which ones!
      Southamapton Mane/Pelle would also be OK.

  9. Can’t beat em so&hell…
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    Right, the pages seem to have slowed down a little..... So, what do you think of this lot. Can anyone see any improvements?

    Cech - 4m

    Clyne - Azpil - Alderweld (Richards, Ward)

    Sterling - Ozil - Hazard - Hendo (Mutch)

    Adebayor - Rooney - Pelle

    Cortois for Cech maybe? Cedric for Clyne? Tekkers for Pelle?

    1. Mancunian
      • 12 Years
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      Keep cech if you already have Azpi for chelsea defensive cover

    2. theBoose
      • 13 Years
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      no, stick with cech.
      i would not have a pool defender because of their away fixtures.
      pelle.

    3. xSJG
      • 12 Years
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      Maybe do Cech --> 5.0/4.5 you can upgrade the 4.0 keeper to a 4.5? Then Clyne --> Mert? Still gives you Arsenal cover, plus Cech won't get you many save points.

      1. Can’t beat em so&hell…
        • 14 Years
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        Interesting... thanks all.

        Cech seems to be the main focus.

        Rest of it all good then?

  10. Jacques The Lad
    • 11 Years
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    Do we know if Caulker is likely to start at soton?

    1. thorvaldsson
      • 13 Years
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      He has a great chance to.

      1. Jacques The Lad
        • 11 Years
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        If only he was 5.0

        1. thorvaldsson
          • 13 Years
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          I had a big argument about how a guy who got relegated twice in a row increases in FPL value and got slashed up but 5.0 or 4.5 would be better

  11. hcttac
    • 10 Years
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    bolasie or wijnaldum

    1. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 13 Years
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      Dutch guy

  12. theBoose
    • 13 Years
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    hello all. i think that i'm set and ready to go with this bunch.. now i've said that, you can all start disagreeing with me 😛

    schmeichel
    ivanovic / koscielny / francis
    fabregas / walcott / sterling / özil / mahrez
    kane / pelle

    butland / wilson / huth / coates

    1. Test Eagles
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Rotate Mahrez & Wilson?

      Looks really good, and you're only issue will be if the H-bomb gets mega-points early. Love the Kane pick, he'll excel this year still methinks.

      1. theBoose
        • 13 Years
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        yes in a way, as well as rotating my defenders with them.

        my team balance works a lot better without haz, so i'm willing to take the risk. i am also adamant he will replicate/if not better last years performances.

    2. Nabs Kebabs
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Needs. Captain. Options.

      1. theBoose
        • 13 Years
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        ivan, fab, walcott, sterling, kane & pelle. just because they are under 10 mil, does not mean they can not be given the armband.

        1. Nabs Kebabs
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          wow... the only (c) options you have there imo are Walcott(short term pick) and Kane. Sterling, Pelle are a tier below. Ivan and Fabs are not (c) options. You have no "first tier" (c) options ie Kun, Haz, Sanchez, Rooney,

          1. theBoose
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            each to their own then i guess. why does the captain have to be a "first tier" option..? surely if a player is playing well and has a good fixture, the armband can be given to them, no?

            1. Nabs Kebabs
              • 14 Years
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              Because they are the most reliable and explosive players in the game. Can you think of better traits you want from a captain?

              1. theBoose
                • 13 Years
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                a good point you raise indeed. obviously those 2 traits are key within captain options, but personally I will be happy to captain those that I currently have if they are playing well and have a good fixture.. in saying that, it's definitely a risk I'm willing to take.

                having the players that I have, also gives my the team the balance I am after, without praying on haz, sanchez, ronney and kun to score big every game.

              • 12 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              Sorry for interjecting but they way I see it is If I want to captain someone from a team then I'd have the best player from that team. With this in mind I'd never be happy captaining Fabregas, Ivanovic or Sterling whilst everyone else is Captaining Hazard or Aguero.

              1. theBoose
                • 13 Years
                10 years, 5 months ago

                no no, i am intrigued to here others thoughts on the subject. i'm not saying that I will no be getting in players like haz, kun, rooney and sanchez, more that the players i currently have fill me and my team with the most confidence. i'd definitely be happy to captain fab if he's playing well and has a good fixture over haz who may not be playing well. as i said above, it's a risk, but one i'm more than willing to take.

                  • 12 Years
                  10 years, 5 months ago

                  Fair enough, I stake a lot in a good captain and really the only people I'd consider for captaincy are:

                  Aguero or Hazard vs anyone in the league except away to Top 4, So' ton nor Pulls

                  Sanchez or Walcott (depending on availability), Kane, Rooney or Bony (if Aguero's out) vs non Top 7 nor away vs Pulis

                  Lukaku or Benteke at home vs relegation candidates.

                  Also Depay is on my watchlist if he looks hotter than Rooney.

        2. theeribert
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          This!

    3. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I like it has balance. I personally would go for sinclair over Maherz (Don't trust the tinkerman)

      1. theBoose
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        cheers. it's more that i have more faith in leicester than villa right now.

  13. NABIL - FPL otai
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Anyone else considering NOT going with CHE defense?

    1. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      me....or players for that matter

      1. NABIL - FPL otai
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Yeah can see that from your username 😀

        1. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          :Cool:

    2. Nabs Kebabs
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      o/

      Kosc, Lescott, Huth, Coates, Francis.

      1. NABIL - FPL otai
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        wow, that's good looking.

        Mine atm is a bit similar

        Kos Jenk Huth PVA Targett

        1. Nabs Kebabs
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          cheers 😀 yeah very similar are you Wc'ing early? That's the only case when i would opt for Targett personally

          1. NABIL - FPL otai
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Nope. 'Targett'ing GW8. He will probably become STO defender by GW2/3/4

    3. Netley Lucas
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      No, but tell us why you are?

      1. NABIL - FPL otai
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Not the best fixtures early on. Defense look dodgy during pre-season and CS, Ivan although still threatening but looks very old. Unsettled with Stones mini-saga.

        I usually start the season with CHE - rest of D - 4.0, but now i think ARS can take that slot.

        1. Netley Lucas
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Well it took something special to beat them in the CS, and I bet Azpi will be told to get a bit tighter to his man in future lol.

          1. NABIL - FPL otai
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Yeah, AOC really schooled hmi that day. I felt like writing a post here, "Azpi who?" lol

            imo SWA might score in GW1, MCI will score GW2, so I'd bring one a bit later.

    4. Aston Villa-Boas
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I don't think I am, they really don't have the fixtures and haven't looked good so far

      1. NABIL - FPL otai
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        my point really

      2. tw
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Tough fixtures they could tighten up more though

        1. NABIL - FPL otai
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          still conceded at MCI last season

      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      o/ currently looking at Azpi -> Kolarov to start with. Ill definitely own Chelsea defence sooner or later though.

  14. tw
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    so what's the deal with Ade? is he going to villa or not?

      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      who knows.

    1. Can’t beat em so&hell…
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I hope so...

      Both as a Spurs fan and a FPL manager

  15. Mancunian
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Please choose wisely:

    A) Courtois - 4.5 defender - Walcott -

    B) 4.5 keeper - Azpi - Ozil/Ramsey/Caz

    1. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      b

    2. theBoose
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      B

    3. tw
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      4.5 gk and Mert/bellerin and Walcott?

  16. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    I wanna take a punt on Chamberlain....good idea or na?

    1. Arvin-ation
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Too short term, imo. Risky.

      1. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        On a scale of 1 to Kolarov. How risky?

        1. Mancunian
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Agbonlahor

          1. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Lol damn

  17. Total Foot 5
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    best duo? thx

    1.sterling - king/fletcher
    2.depay - sinclair

    1. Arvin-ation
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Is the 2nd mid a 5th or 4th mid?

      1. Total Foot 5
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        5th

        1. Arvin-ation
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          1 then, with Fletcher

          1. Total Foot 5
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            cheers

  18. Arvin-ation
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Thoughts on the current team please? 🙂

    Courtois (4.0)
    Koscielny Cedric Williams (Huth, Coates)
    Sterling Ramsey Depay Mane (Fletcher)
    Pelle Rooney Benteke

    Thank you

    1. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      triple SOT like me so I like it 😉 I'm starting with Targett though.

      Court is good for CHE D is cover but may lack save points. Ramsey is a personal choice imo - I'd personally go ally Santi or Ozil first. Not too sure about Depay from the start, I think LVG will use him with caution - could be golden though. Same story with Benteke. Rest is very good.

  19. We Are Chelsea
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Right, this is my team with $2.5m left in the bank to bring in Sanchez in GW2.
    What do you guys thing?

    Ruddy/Butland

    Mert-Azpi-Francis Richards/Targett

    Cazola-Hazard-Depay-Hendo Wanyama

    Pelle-Rooney-Deeney

    Thoughts?

  20. hcttac
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Thoughts this is for skys ff as i want to take my mates ££££££

    pantilimon

    martin ward annholt

    depay hazard gardner ozil wijnaldum

    rooney lukaku

  21. tokara
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Guys help me out

    Mings or Francis more nailed? from bourn

    1. theeribert
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Both should be but I'm going with Mings. I think he was signed for a club record fee.

      1. tokara
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        cheers m8

  22. Hibbo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    RMT

    Pantilimon / Hennessey

    Huth / Coates / R.Martin / M.Richards / Saylor

    Walcott / Hazard / Chadli / Milner / Mitch

    Rooney / Deeney / Kane

    With 4.5m to do Walcott & Rooney > Sanchez & Agüero..

    1. Nabs Kebabs
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Not exactly my cup of team. I personally believe you only need 2 of Kun/Haz/Sanchez. Wanting 3 has destroyed the rest of your team imo.

      1. Nabs Kebabs
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        "cup of team" lmao

          • 12 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          claim it, use it forever Nabs

      2. Hibbo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        In what way?

        1. Nabs Kebabs
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          too many enablers. i don't mind uber def but only if you have a kick ass front 7. I have Chadli but having Milner and Deeney aswell is overkill with budget options imo.

          1. Hibbo
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            I fancy Deeney and Milner to score really well tbh.

            I'd be less sure about Chadli.

            Usually I go one big defender so I don't see how my team is 'destroyed' by having the three big players.

            Really I'm down a big defender. And a £9m mid.

            I fancy Milner to match some £8.5 - £9.0m MIDs.

        2. Nabs Kebabs
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          If Deeney flops good luck trying to jump off him. Rember Bojan owners last year?

          1. Hibbo
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            I've £4.5m in the bank with that team not much luck needed.

          2. Hibbo
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            And Deeneys no Bojan. Remember Charlie Austin?

              • 12 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              What makes you confident hes an Austin and not a Bojan or Ricky Van Wolfswinkel?

              1. Hibbo
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 13 Years
                10 years, 5 months ago

                I've sen him play.

  23. Zoostation
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    A: Ozil and Sakho

    B: Deeney and Walcott 0.5 ITB

  24. Nannerz_17
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Choose from these options:

    A) Mangala, 4.5m def, Wilson/Deeney
    B) Cedric, Staylor, Sakho

    Also, do you think Courtouis is a risky pick? Will he rotate with Begovic much?

  25. tw
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Mane or depay?

    1. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Mané for week 1

    2. Netley Lucas
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Mane as 1st Saint, Depay as 2nd Red Devil... if that helps? 😉

      1. Huddersfield
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        3rd*

  26. Huddersfield
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    LLORIS still injured ?

    1. theBoose
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      yes. will most likely miss united, but should be back for stoke.

      1. Huddersfield
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Cheers , any idea who will start for CP ? i need him for some weeks until Lloris return

  27. Can’t beat em so&hell…
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    A. Azpil, Mutch, Adebayor
    B. Mangala, Ox, Wilson

    1. tw
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      A assuming Ade transfer actually happens
      If not then maybe get Lambert or sakho instead

  28. Penang Sandman
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    my first RMT. any advice appreciated

    Pants Hannesey

    Kosc Cedric Morgan Oshea 4.0

    Hazard Cazorla Ayew Sterling Bentaleb

    Rooney Sakho Pelle

    1.5ITB

    1. Huddersfield
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Morgan won't play GW1 and O'shea mostly on bench

      1. Penang Sandman
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        nice thanks. any link to Morgan news?

    2. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Ayew - Will he start? Too risky imo
      O'Shea - I'd be concerned about Kaboul taking his place
      4.0 - None are nailed on
      Bentaleb - Its a bit meh, personally I think investing in a 5 could be a good option with the occasional start when Sakho has a horrid fixture eg Arsenal

      1. Penang Sandman
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Ayew is a punt, reckon he'll start. Bentaleb will be in my team, dont want waste any .5 on bench.

  29. jgjokaj
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    whose the best 5mil defender

    1. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Check the watchlist

    2. Arvin-ation
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Cedric, imo.

  30. dmhomag
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    I know the Costa risk but please help me pick 1

    A)

    Buddy*
    Ivan Kosc Gomez Huth Coates*
    Walcott Ozil* Payet* Hendo (Westwood)
    Rooney Costa Sakho

    B)

    McCarthy/Hennessey*
    Ivan Kosc Gomez Huth Saylor*
    Walcott Ozil* Sterling* Hendo (Westwood)
    Rooney Costa Sakho

    C)

    McCarthy/Hennessey*
    Ivan Kosc Gomez Huth Saylor*
    Walcott Hazard* Ritchie* Hendo (Westwood)
    Rooney Costa Sakho

    1. gdog2244
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      C

      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      B if its short term

    2. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      C but not sold on Ritchie. Try Payet 5.5 instead of Hendo and Lionel

      1. dmhomag
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        So say you and say me 🙂

        However at 6.0 Lionel is worth a punt IMHO. Don't see much value at 5.5.

        1. NABIL - FPL otai
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Yeah he has those stats with him. Good luck with that!