We delve into the Gameweek 3 data this evening in our first members article of the week. Up front, we assess Bournemouth, Chelsea and Liverpool’s lone forwards, whilst there’s plenty to analyse in the centre of the park, as we take a look at some standout statistics from Villa, Palace, United, West Ham and Norwich.
Just a reminder of minute played tonight
http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2015/08/25/scout-picks-squad-gameweek-4/?hc_page=9#hc_comment_11071797ty
Brilliant, thanks
Nobody from Leics or Watford even get a game?
All of their starting 11 were rested, totally different players starting
Just included Layun for Watford as he got a good few minutes in their first two games
Schlupp got 25 minutes, must have missed himTa
have you checked with Bond? 😉
Soo... where can I check tonight's Capital One Cup draw?
The internet.
Where exactly
Thank you!
It's everywhere.
Middlesbrough v Wolves
Norwich v West Brom
Hull v Swansea
Leicester v West Ham
Aston Villa v Birmingham
Tottenham v Arsenal
Man Utd v Ipswich
Liverpool v Carlisle
Crystal Palace v Charlton
Fulham v Stoke
Sunderland v Man City
Newcastle v Sheffield Weds
Reading v Barnsley or Everton
Preston v Bournemouth
Walsall v Chelsea
MK Dons v SouthamptonEasy draw for us , practically a bye
Haven't seen you in a while. Did you play last season?
steal it from another poster perhaps?
Big dilemna guys, would really appreciate any feedback
Already done:-
Sakho > Wilson
Mane > Yaya for -4
Now, I feel Kos and the Arsenal defence (-Cech) is really letting the side down, and with an injury to boot I want to ask:-
Kos > Clyne/Darmian/Kolarov for another hit?
And if so, which one would you choose?
(Already have Benteke, Yaya & Aguero)Only rely on Cech for arsenal back line in the next 2-3 GWs imo
Wouldn't take a hit to take out an Arsenal defender. Not sure on the Mane out one either, wait until after the EL game.
No Gomis in the midweek Scour report?
*Gomez
Gomis***
Do I have to explain?
Can I have more points please?
Press Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start in the points section.
anyone know minutes played tonight?
if only someone would post it 🙄
Most games were 90. Some were 120.
Whats with all the excitement about Richards?
Cheap, nailed and got a CS first GW.
how is he better than other 4.5's?
None of the others were band members of the Rolling Stones.
Cheap, nailed on and got la CS first GW.
Fixtures
And good BPS
Should I play:
A) Ayew (MUN)
B) Wilson (LEI)Wilson
mind helping me belowB
Wilson
Cheers
Sakho got arrested!? He's in my team! Some people give no thought to the effects of their actions on others!
Injured + arrested, nice combo
hahaha 😀
loool
Should say Callum Wilson on the stat beginning with 4.
Yep, good spot
Is it worth getting felaini for 6.5? Lvg has said he's thinking of playng him up front so he seems like a good buy
Reckon he'll be on bench atm
His game time would be the problem.
If at some point in the season, he actually does start around 3-4 gameweeks upfront due to injuries or something, he would be fantasy gold 🙂
Repost:
Mert > Kolarov/Kompany for a hit
Yay or Nay?No.
Yay
nah...never hit on defenders and Mertesacker should start the next game against Newcastle, so no point in selling him.
No. Never a hit for a defender.
Yes
Thauvin could be a good punt after GW9 (NOR, sun, STK, bou, LEI, cry) let's wait and see 🙂
If only De Jong could stay fit, he'd be a great pick.
tonight's possible price rises:
Defoe
Gomis
Sagna
Mahrez
Lukaku
KouyateThanks for this. Fiso is hard to decipher.
Lukaku!!!
Here's a funny number...Try Mahrez and Shelvey on the comparison tool for all matches...
Two completely different kind of players.
doesn't matter. The comparison tool works on the possibility of scoring pts.
Good luck if you are sticking with Shelvey over Mahrez
I'm not...I'm on both
What do you think about having a benching dilemma of Wilson/Deeney/Mahrez/Shelvey? This might be the direction I'm going to with my team. Other 4 attackers are unbenchable.
I never understand what the issue is with having a bench problem.
Wilson was a great example at the weekend for those who played 3-5-2...Many benched him and lost his pts...but then so did everybody who didn't have him at all and had Wanyama on the bench.
A few got lucky and got his pts off the bemch...which shows the other side of a full squad...you might be glad of them...meanwhile we who never had him at all had no chance of his pts at all.
Sometimes it's best to just go with the truth and move on. Stats are history
It's a white wash imo.
FFS should try some linkbait type headlines for these articles:
for eg:
"you won't believe who is top of the list"
"I had to look twice when I saw column 4"Column?
err?
"Find out why experienced posters hate her..."
"Experienced posters have tried to have this table banned"
sorry "Experienced posters are doing everything they can to have this table banned"
Is it better to have a spread of players from different teams or is it better to have 3 from the same teams where possible?
Depends on the team and fixtures.
3 from teams who have fixtures and form, otherwise a spread of from different team with fixtures or form
Defenders ... better to spread Otherwise go with the hot teams / players. Right now only City really seem to be worthy of 3 players imo
Do you fancy Azpi over Shaw? (Needs 2nd gk-downgrade)
On wildcard
No
I'd stick with Shaw. Azpi unlikely to score again, and Chelsea CS don't seem to be frequent enough
Which MOD deleted my sensational bit of research on the Carling Cup games? That took me all evening!
b'stards
bowstring the thief??????
I've been Ocean Elevened. Massive thief!
He would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for you meddling kids..
Did you start before kick-off?
Butland
Francis, Kompany, Cedric
Hazard, Ritchie, Shaqiri, Mahrez
Wilson, Aguero, Benteke
Is it worth swapping out any players for -4?Aguero, imho.
I'd be concerned Ritchie didn't get pts last match
Always look ahead. I'd keep Ritchie for another week.
I’d like to say at the outset that a significant number of you had replied to my post or ‘’thumbed it up’’ and have been very generous with your comments. I thank the community for that, and while that was not the intent of the comment/post, it’s a nice feeling nonetheless. I had also intended for the post to be a one-off, just a spontaneous expression of what was in my head at the time – but some commenters had valid points w.r.t team value, static vs dynamic teams which don’t quite fit into my theory, and therefore this post is an attempt to expound a little on those thoughts. Also, the joy of sharing/giving and all that. Again, a long post possibly awaits and I would ask you to pardon my indulgence.
Let me start off with the dynamic vs static team philosophy. I guess the question is something to the effect of, how does one separate knee-jerkism from rational considered transfers or even rational considered transfers with a points hit. For example, how would my theory account for ivanovic vs kolarov, two or even three weeks into the season. How does the theory account for mahrez, silva, gomis, Wilson (on their way up), and ivanovic, rooney, hazard (on their way down but seemingly ‘’high quality’’ per my definition). And also new, potential bandwagons: I,e pedro, Wilson, kolarov. Lets take these one by one. Oh boy this may be a very long post!
Mahrez: After gameweek 1, when Mahrez scored what he did, my thought was – how did I overlook this guy so completely in my initial squad selection – he did not even enter my head. This I account to oversight. Any player can and must be evaluated on multiple parameters:
1) The team he plays for and therefore the fixtures
2) Personal form and team form
3) Importance to the team, if an attacker: how central/involved is he in the play, and also to a lesser extent is he on penalties, corners, direct and indirect free kicks etc.
4) My favourite parameter: inherent quality of the player
5) FPL consideration: price, and therefore how he affects team structure, balance, coverage etc
Mahrez to me ticked every singly box: right fixtures, great form, but MOST IMPORTANTLY: outstanding quality for an outstanding price. In my mind, I’d pegged mahrez as a high quality player last season when I saw him play for Leicester, and that just comes down to player evaluation and football knowledge. Some use stats, but I would say use stats in addition to watching a player. Mahrez is an outstanding attacking player. His close control, shooting ability are terrific, and he plays in an attacking position where he is integral to the team’s play. The fact that he ticked all these boxes and additionally, drafting him in meant squad balance and an enabler to an Aguero or some other heavy hitter, meant to my mind he was a no brainer. This is not a case, in my opinion, of knee jerking, but of sound transfer strategy.
Case no 2: Rooney. Great fixtures to open the season, central to the team, proven FPL quality etc. I had Rooney in my initial squad, for the reasons above. After the first two games of the season, however, to me it was clear that Rooney was not central to Man Utd’s attacking play, and man utd were simply not generating the kind of chances through their attacking play that suggested a glut of goals. Shipping him out vs Newcastle therefore, while still a risk, was a sensible decision based on observation of team play, team dynamics and so on. Also, with the chance of price drops coming into play, and the fact that him scoring huge would not affect you because so many players had transferred him out, meant he was less of a risk.
Case no 3: Hazard. I still have him in my team because of one factor above all else: he is one of the world’s best attacking players, possibly in the top ten, definitely in the EPL top two-three, and therefore as high quality as it gets. There is no such thing as a season keeper, but I had brought in Hazard with the intent of keeping him as long as he was not injured.
Now lets examine the cons: Chelsea’s stuttering start, his own form, the arrival of Pedro. What one needs to evaluate over time is whether Pedro actively changes the dynamic of the team into a three pronged attacking machine, with costa spearheading hazard from the left and pedro from the right. To me, the answer is unclear as of now and needs more data. My quality quotient is making me keep him, but if over time I see a shift, I might ship him out. My reasons for not doing so this early is that it’s too early to tell, Hazard has too much quality, and until he is proven to be not central to the team’s play, he should be given the benefit of the doubt, with seasons worth of points history behind him.
Case no 4: Pedro: Proven overall quality, in a potentially dominant side, but still a new entrant to the team, the league, the playing style. I would say getting him in for a hit is an example of a bandwagon, simply because it’s too early to judge, but getting him in as part of a strategic free transfer that allows you to upgrade (lets say) Huth to Kolarov next week (again for free)? May not be a bad option. My own view is I will wait on Pedro, to see how integral he is to the team’s play.
Gomis/Wilson: middling quality but more of budget enablers: no hits to bring them in, but part of thought out transfers, sure.
While I could go on with multiple other cases, I hope I have conveyed to you how I approach transfers. I am not a big fan of hits, where the inherent unpredictability of a player’s performance on the day due to my discrete events theory, makes the gamble an against-the-odds proposition. But an Ivan to a Kolarov on a free (Ivan’s lack of form, Kolarov nailed on ness etc) is not a bad option.
I believe it’s important to read into a manager’s philosophy and comfort when evaluating player decisions. City have been on a roll for the last ten games essentially with the same 4-5-1 team that includes Aguero and Kolarov. It’s important to read into tactics: how Pellegrini abandoned the 4-4-2 approach towards the end of last season, and opted for a lone striker in front, and kolarov gave them attacking verve and defensive solidity. Therefore, why would he abandon it? Therefore kolarov becomes a lesser risk proposition.
Take Walcott on the other hand or even Oscar or Willian, which are interesting cases going forward. Each of these are good quality players (I actually think Oscar is very good going forward and WIllian an outstanding overall player). But each of these have no guarantee of playing time, 90 mins match in and match out. Therefore I would avoid these entirely, even if Oscar comes on next match and scores two goals and trolls everyone.
Mistakes I’ve made and how I’ve learnt from them: I had Milner in my initial squad, but want to remove him now because even though I consider him high quality, he plays too deep in Liverpool. I should have seen this earlier. Rooney vs Silva: I went for form over my instincts, and have removed rooney already, will get in Silva this week.
As for price rises and falls, I would say that in the above philosophy, I try to manage price rises and falls as best as possible, with minimal hits.
Phew. Hope this helps.Crikey, maybe the audience was more sober last time 🙂
Before I spend the time to read and digest this - what are your FPL credentials? Thanks.
no rmts, which is nice
Good enough for me
True. I just read their first post and I agreed with pretty much all of it.
Makes my Mahrez post look like a haiku!
Mahrez keeps scoring,
Good fixtures, takes pens, nice hair,
Get him in your team.
Basically:
There were some players, with hindsight he should/shouldn't have bought
Don't by players who won't play 90 minutes every weekMahrez won't play 90 every week.
It's a no from me
I missed the first post. Next time I have 15 minutes to spare I'll go back and check it out 😉
I think what you are elaborating on is the single most important skill in fantasy football which is the ability to distinguish between a long term trend and short term randomness. Does the holding midfielder who scores a brace in week 1 become a good option? No. Does a proven quality asset become a bad asset after 3 blanks? Not unless something has changed in their role or team. These are the things that separate casuals from good players.
Playing for long term underlying trends will mean the randomness will average out in your favour over time.zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Some good things to consider both here and in your first post. Cheers.
Another fantastic post! Thank you for taking your time to write this
Will we see any 3.9m defenders by the end of the week?
Only if you are looking in the wrong direction
Turner looks like falling
Here's hoping. The 0.1m makes all the difference for my WC team.
Why is there a photo of Danny Ings up on the article ?
Robbie Brady no?
😀 I genuinely thought it was Ings lol
Close enough. 😉
Danny Ings looks like Robbie Brady
he loves a big number
270.. The most minutes spent on the bench
Zaha, keep or FT to another 5.5 or less MF.
Who though?Get rid, he's garbage.
Who for though?
I can't be bothered to log in tbh, i'll let you know in the week.
is he ur 5th mid than keep
Sadly he is the 4th.
He's gotta go. He's under pressure from Sako for starts.
Evening gents. Having just stumbled out of the pub after going to the Newcastle game tonight, I am feeling in generous spirit. So I will share with you all my evenings insight...
Thauvin and janmaat down the Newcastle right are going to bring in consistent fpl points when the fixtures turn kind. Watch this space.
That one is on me.
Night allThey play for Newcastle though, their fixtures will never be kind, bad luck Jonathan.
They couldn't even beat Man Utd ffs.
I do think Thauvin could do well... Janmaat always scores a surprising amount of attacking points but is seldom talked about here.
My Dad would look decent against Northampton Town.
Thauvin was great going forwards but he won't be able to not defend like he did tonight.
I'd imagine he'll play on the left to provide for Mitrovic, with Sissoko staying on the right.
Anything of fpl significance tonight guys? Injuries etc
I notice Mings started... Hope he breaks the bloody first team soonMany things, Bowstring has posed a link of my work at the top of the page. Tells you everything you'd want to know about tonights games.
That's great. Thanks
You're welcome.
Sinclair got a hatty inc a pen, just like in pre season which was the reason we bought him 🙄
You 😉 I knew he was a fraud,just didn't spot Mane being a fraud haha
Ozil or Silva
Silva, by a very long way.
I know but I can't get him in til next week!
If they were both 8.5m then Silva but they're not. Yaya
Lol Silva
Best defender 6.0m and below ? For the next 4-5 weeks
Kolarov
Already have Kolarov, Gomez.
Azpi or Shaw?
Good to go?
Butland
Richards Shaw Gomez Sagna
Coutinho Silva Mahrez Pedro
Aguero Gomis
Ruddy Williams Surman Sakhowilliams over shaw
I think so. Who is your (c)?
Aguero almost certainly, I think Shaw has greater chance of attacking points and a CS, also I am am worried that I dont have Arsenal cover.
I agree with you on your Shaw view points.
My lineup is:
Butland
Smalling Kolarov Gomez
Sanchez Yaya Payet Mahrez
Aguero(c) Gomis Wilson
McCarthy Targett Richards Obertan
Considering benching Payet for a 4th defender this week.yeah, West Ham were underwhelming against Bournemeouth plus Liv are still to concede, i would def bench Payet for Richards, defenders also seem to be getting lots of BPS this time.

