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The Numbers Game – Ramsey’s Progress

29 September 2011 747 comments
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While the departure of Cesc Fabregas and the arrival of fellow Spaniard Mikel Arteta at the Emirates triggered a burst of interest in the former Everton man, recent weeks have seen Arteta somewhat overshadowed in Arsenal’s midfield. Arsene Wenger has put his faith in Aaron Ramsey to fill the void left by Jack Wilshere’s ankle injury and the Welshman has flourished. Recent returns have piqued the interest of Fantasy managers and Ramsey is now blinking on the radar as a new source of coverage within an Arsenal side facing up to a run of favourable opponents.

In this latest Members article, we use our Opta data to examine Ramsey’s progress in recent weeks, assess his performances in relation to Arteta, and explore his overall potential within the mid-price Fantasy bracket.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Jordan.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 2 months ago

    rooney to bongles

    sessegnon to ramsey

    petrov to nani

    SWP to ramires

    16 point hit ...boom...

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    1. mysteryDave
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 2 months ago

      too much!

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    2. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 2 months ago

      only one worth it is the nani move.

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      1. mysteryDave
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 2 months ago

        Are Agbonlahor, Ramsey, Nani & Ramires going to outscore the 4 you would have fielded otherwise by more than 16 points?

        Lets add it up? My prediction: No
        Ramires 2pts
        Nani 11pts
        Ramsey 6pts
        Agbonlahor 5pts
        24pts

        SWP 5pts
        Petrov 2pts
        Sessegnon 5pts
        Rooney 10pts or sub 2pts
        14pts

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        1. The Bandit
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 2 months ago

          They don't change back again after one week you know....

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      2. doisneau
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 2 months ago

        brilliant thinking, Mannion. now, please can i have £3.3m or whatever.

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  2. Nomar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 2 months ago

    Anyone else noticed that CTC has Rooney dropping tonight? Does the red flag protect him from dropping?

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    1. ManofKent
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 2 months ago

      No - it's only when the flag is removed

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    2. niamheens
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 2 months ago

      It says on fiso that he's not protected

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      1. Anders
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 2 months ago

        Exactly, because he isn't. He only become protected once the injured flag is removed ... so his price should drop tonight based on what we know ... annoying really. Thoughts on who to replace him with? I haven't got any other United cover (mistake I know!!).
        http://crackthecode.fiso.co.uk/FAQ.html

        FLAGGING & PROTECTION OF PLAYERS

        Q: Flagging & Protection of Players? Explain away…
        A: When a player is either injured, doubtful, suspended or ineligible then the (i) next to their name on FPL will be flagged red or yellow.

        Q: Does this mean the player is protected from any price drop?
        A: NO – absolutely not and this is a major mistake many people make. Anyone who is flagged will still be able to increase and decrease in value. The increase NTI target stays the same. However the NTO Threshold for a price drop is approximately 2.5 times greater than the usual Threshold for price drops.

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  3. Torrestar
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 2 months ago

    Ramsey or jarvis for the next 5 GWs, i.e. GW 7-11?

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    1. mysteryDave
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 2 months ago

      Ramsey

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      1. Spin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 2 months ago

        Arsenal will score more goals than Wolves so Ramsey probably with a better chance of goals/assists I suppose.
        Wolves cant score to save their lives at the moment!

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  4. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 2 months ago

    Rooney out for Aguero or Dzeko out for Aguero. Will Dzeko start? What do we think? Its higher risk to sell Rooney cause if he starts he could do serious damage right? And it will be paint full having Dzeko for whole international brake, only for waiting for him to be dropped again. I believe that Mancini will be back to 4 5 1 again.

    Thoughts?

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    1. mysteryDave
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 2 months ago

      I have done Rooney out for Aguero for these reasons:
      a) Rooneys price is dropping tonight, I don't lose anything personally but others might. If he doesn't play this weekend he could drop again.
      b) Agueros price is rising.
      c) I did Dzeko -> Agbonlahor too.

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  5. Damo.
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 2 months ago

    Lads quick question, I can't remember how it works. If I've had Rooney since he was 12.0 am I safe from a drop until 12.4?

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    1. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 2 months ago

      Yep, relax

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    2. Spin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 2 months ago

      Yeah, you can sell for 12.2 while he's at 12.4

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      1. Nomar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 2 months ago

        Wait to see if he drops tonight.

        It looks like he will, but I'd wait and see. If he does drop then tomorrow night is probably the time to get rid. I'm wildcarding Saturday night so I may well take him out tomorrow if he drops tonight as the chances are he's going to drop further during the International break.

        I should be able to get him back closer to £12-12.2m by the end of the international break.

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    3. mysteryDave
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 2 months ago

      safe

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    4. Damo.
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 2 months ago

      Cheers boys.

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  6. jayzico
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 2 months ago

    evening all. those who dont sell roonhair for ade will seriously regret it.

    couldnt think of a better player against his old team (complete with grudges, weak defence and the assistance of a rested dvd!)

    PLUS ade will rise steeply after this weekend. pig will plummet. DO IT NOW

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    1. exammy
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 2 months ago

      Im actually keeping roonpig for this week and may transfer him out next week

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    2. applebonkers
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 2 months ago

      adebayor got 5 points in his only game v arsenal and should have been sent off

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      1. applebonkers
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        • 16 Years
        14 years, 2 months ago

        actually he played them 2 other times too and didn't manage a goal or assist

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      2. jayzico
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 2 months ago

        i agree a.p. i remember the game well but he'll be more composed this time round with dvd as the old feeder cassette. i see him getting at least one.

        thus had to do brunt/pig > young/ade (i got nani too but what the hell)

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        1. jayzico
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 2 months ago

          sorry aB. i meant aB. not a.p

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        2. applebonkers
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          • 16 Years
          14 years, 2 months ago

          the ex club thing is a myth based on an infamous celebration

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    3. Xand
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 2 months ago

      If I already have Ade and Suarez, who should I sell the pig for?

      Would like to free up some cash to upgrade Jarvis/Brunt to DVD, which I can't do if I take Aguero. Is he nailed on to start this weekend?

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      1. Spin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 2 months ago

        I'm assuming he is because of the Dzeko situation, Mancini said he'd be on the bench.

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        1. Xand
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 2 months ago

          Hm. So the question is:

          Rooney -> Aguero (who many in my ML have, no extra cash to upgrade MF)

          Or

          Rooney -> Agbo (can then bring in Mata AND DVD for Brunt/Jarvis)

          or

          Rooney -> Balotelli (then Brunt for DVD)

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          1. Spin
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 2 months ago

            Yeah, I'b bring in Aguero too and keep him - his next 6 fixtures look good (except for Utd away) but he'll probably score there too

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      2. jayzico
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 2 months ago

        i wouldnt go vdv yet. but if u aint got aguero... why not? he's youre priority!

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        1. Xand
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 2 months ago

          Mostly hoping to gain ground in my minileague. The guys above me are riding the Aguero train and I think it's bound to slow down, just like the Rooney train.

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          1. Spin
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 2 months ago

            Keep Rooney then and see what SAF says tomorrow.

            I've kept Rooney cos I think he'll play and I'm only selling him if SAF says he's definitely out

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      3. Mole
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 2 months ago

        Pig > Aguero

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  7. paibol
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 2 months ago

    Should I remove aguero for RVP?or change some midfield so i can have both?

    My team looks like this:
    Vorm
    Bosingwa Simpson Taylor S
    Young Nani Ramires Silva
    Adebayor Aguero Agbonlahor

    Sus. Ruddy Dyer Ferdinand Barnett
    0m in bank

    What are your thoughts?

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    1. Spin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 2 months ago

      I wouldn't be doing anything if I had that team

      Captain Nani or Aguero I reckon

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      1. paibol
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 2 months ago

        Thanks =)

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  8. The Bandit
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 2 months ago

    Rooneys red flag is annoying the shit out of me. It should be yellow and nowhere near as many would have got rid. He stays for me and is my Captain.

    On a different note, tv footy is awful when it's not in HD, amazing difference. ðŸ™

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    1. Leysh
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 2 months ago

      +1 Especially when it's away in Russia or such and it looks like an online stream on a 42 inch TV.

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  9. Doctor X
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 2 months ago

    Just to get this straight.

    Got Rooney at 12.0
    Value rose to 12.5
    Value in squad 12.2

    Thus if Rooney hits 12.3, then he becomes 12.1 mill in my squad and I lose value on him then.

    Correct?

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    1. Demí
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 2 months ago

      Correct

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      1. Doctor X
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 2 months ago

        Aight Demi. Ta.

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    2. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 2 months ago

      Correct.

      As I said above, the time to sell is tomorrow night. By then SAF should have had his press conference and hopefully told us if Rooney is fit enough to play or not.

      If he looks set for another drop tomorrow then sell him.

      If he doesn't play at Norwich his price will plummet during the 2 week break.

      I'm lining up Roonpig to RVP or Ade and thinking a 4 pt hit to get Nani. Prob get Ade as my rival has him and he's more likely to rise than RVP. Besides, being on a WC on Saturday means I can get whoever I want, within my budget, from then.

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  10. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 2 months ago

    PENALTY

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  11. The Bandit
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 2 months ago

    Nice brace by AJ, peeps not talking about him being great value anymore?

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    1. hillbillypete
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 2 months ago

      hasnt scored in the league

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  12. Michael Jordan - call me MJ
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 2 months ago

    Adebayor -4 points or S Taylor?

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  13. Royal5
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 2 months ago

    Don't understand why people want to get rid of Rooney.. He will maybe miss one weekend. He is in the form of his life. This years only "must have" IMO.

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    1. Mole
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 2 months ago

      you can always buy him back. If you can get someone else who picks up 10 - 15 points in the meantime, its worth 0.1, maybe 0.2

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 2 months ago

      See nomar's sound advice, just above. I am hoping to hold on - but if he really is out, he'll have to go, 8 point hit or not.

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      1. Royal5
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 2 months ago

        See your point. However i want to be 99% sure he doesn't play if I get rid. Really don't want to loose money on the trade..

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    3. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 2 months ago

      He can't be a must have when injured
      I will get him
      Back in gw 9 or 10

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    4. applebonkers
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 2 months ago

      he's about to win player of the month and get cursed

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  14. Pickled and Preserved
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 2 months ago

    Bench Jose Enrique? Or Senderos?

    The logic is, if Senderos doesn't play, Enrique will come on anyways. Not sure who is the better clean sheet though.. Leaning towards Senderos

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  15. jguti14
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 2 months ago

    help with this team no idea what to do...just know i want to bring in nani

    given vorm

    bosi enrique de laet simps ward

    silva walcott brunt moses dyer

    suarez rooney dzeko

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    1. Spin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 2 months ago

      Anything in the bank?

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    2. jguti14
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 2 months ago

      3.1 mil in bank

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      1. Spin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 2 months ago

        With one transfer you only have one choice, Walcott out

        With two I'd do Dzeko - Aggy and Brunt - Nani

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    3. Cruicky
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 2 months ago

      Lots of problems need to be sorted out,

      De Laet, Brunt, Moses, Rooney, Dzeko...

      Rooney--->Adebayor
      Brunt--->Nani.

      May be 0.2 short though?

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    4. Binman_UK
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 2 months ago

      similar team to what i had...

      i got rid of dzeko, walcott and rooney for aguero, nani and adebayor.

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      1. jguti14
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 2 months ago

        yea thats what i was thinking but dont want to lose rooney though man

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  16. The Bandit
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 2 months ago

    That annoying twat in the Heineken advert looks like a fledgling albatross chick trying to get airborne rather than a kung fu expert! 🙄

    Singer is cute though...

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    1. Suarezchomper
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 2 months ago

      Asteroid galaxy tour are the band think they at Danish

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  17. stanway1
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 2 months ago

    anyone know spurs starting line up for tonights game ????

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 2 months ago

      Try channel 5 !!

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    2. Spin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 2 months ago

      from BBC

      Cudicini, Walker, Corluka, Bassong, Rose, Lennon, Carroll, Livermore, Giovani, Defoe, Pavlyuchenko. Subs: Gomes, Bale, Kaboul, Modric, Falque, Townsend, Kane.

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      1. Binman_UK
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 2 months ago

        hm no adebayor?

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        1. 1966 was a great year for E…
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 2 months ago

          No 1st choice players, apart from possibly Walker.

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          1. Binman_UK
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 2 months ago

            phew

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  18. applebonkers
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    • 16 Years
    14 years, 2 months ago

    another £2 donated to paddy power. falcao ðŸ™

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    1. jamsiep
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 2 months ago

      LOLcao.

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  19. willieprunier
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 2 months ago

    2 from ward, simpson and brunt???

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    1. jguti14
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 2 months ago

      ward brunt probably

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    2. Spin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 2 months ago

      Simpson + Brunt

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    3. FF Dirtbag
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 2 months ago

      Simpson Brunt

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  20. SMOOTH
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 2 months ago

    A) Rooney - chicarito, arteta - nani (C) for a hit
    B) Rooney - drogba, arteta - nani(C) for a hit
    C) Rooney - Drogba/Chica/RVP no hit... (C) goes to Aguero but no UTD coverage
    D) do nothing. (C) Aguero, rooney on the bench.

    front 8

    mata silva arteta dyer johnson
    rooney ade aguero

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    1. Mole
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 2 months ago

      D.

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  21. Mole
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 2 months ago

    Vorm (Krul)
    Kompany Ward NTaylor (Bos Simpson)
    Walcott Silva Jarvis Dyer (Barton)
    RVP Roo Dzeko

    Getting detroyed by Aguero, so want him in. Thinking
    A) Walcott > Ramsey and Dzeko > Aguero (no hit)
    OR
    B) Walcott > Nani ; Rooney > Aguero ; Dzeko > Agbon (-4 pts)

    A or B folks???

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    1. Mole
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 2 months ago

      anyone? wont hold you responsible if it goes wrong 😉

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    2. FF Dirtbag
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 2 months ago

      Either way man you gotta get a bit of Man united in this week. B would structure ur team nicely with the possibility of getting rooney back in later. I see the players you get in B will do better and gain back that 4 points you lose, Ramsey vs Tot dont see too many points in him compared to Nani.

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      1. Spin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 2 months ago

        Good logic that 🙂

        +1

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        1. FF Dirtbag
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 2 months ago

          Cheers big ears

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      2. Mole
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 2 months ago

        Cheers Boom. Decision made, although I've now realised I can have Adebayor or Agbonlahor???

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  22. woka
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 2 months ago

    Hey lads my team is:

    Given (Ruddy)

    Bosingwa - Kompany - Enrique - Brown (Simpson)

    Silva - Nani - Sess (Ferguson, Moses)

    Rooney - Dzeko - Suarez

    Thoughts on trades this week?

    I was considering:

    Dzeko > Best
    Sess > VdV

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    1. Mole
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 2 months ago

      Pretty awesome front 6 if Best maintains form.

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      1. woka
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 2 months ago

        Yeah could be. Also depends on the length of the Rooney injury. It is very tempting to shift him out to Van Persie because of the fixtures.

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        1. Mole
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 2 months ago

          id be surprised if Roo is out for more than one GW, although Fergie did make light of his injury last year and it went on and on.

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    2. Spin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 2 months ago

      I prefer Ba over Best, if you have the money

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      1. woka
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 2 months ago

        Haha if only. I think I'm left with .1 if I make those trades. Agreed though, if I had the cash I would certainly prefer Ba.

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  23. Brian (Not the Messiah)
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 2 months ago

    Oxlade-Chamberlain... If he starts becoming a regular starter in the premier league, could be a bargain at 5.9!

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 2 months ago

      Biggest IF ever!

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      1. Brian (Not the Messiah)
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 2 months ago

        I've seen comments that he's better then walcott...

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        1. Mole
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 2 months ago

          Ive also seen comments on this site saying Boselli was a good buy!!

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        2. AP
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 2 months ago

          If he can run fast and do anything else he's better than Theo.

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          1. FF Dirtbag
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 2 months ago

            Im hoping he comes gd, would be a lovely cheap attacking midfielder for some gd arsenal fixtures.

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          2. Royal5
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 2 months ago

            LOL 😀

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        3. jamsiep
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 2 months ago

          Those comments are probably correct.

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          1. woka
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 2 months ago

            But no one can match Theo in the art of the 'cross come shot' 😛

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            1. jamsiep
              • 16 Years
              14 years, 2 months ago

              Definitely don't want to get in the way of one of them.

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        4. applebonkers
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          • 16 Years
          14 years, 2 months ago

          he's played centre mid, so he can play. can see why arsenal were frustrated with his buy as they needed immediate solutions but that doesn't mean he wont be a good buy.

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          1. applebonkers
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            • 16 Years
            14 years, 2 months ago

            *arsenal fans were frustrated

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        5. Don Cortese
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 2 months ago

          He's better than Walcott.

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    2. applebonkers
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 2 months ago

      a big potential bargain is fabio at man utd, will be keeping tabs on him @4.5 and falling weekly

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      1. FF Dirtbag
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 2 months ago

        Dont see him playing with everyone else ahead of him, especially with Vidic coming back eventually...

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      2. AP
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 2 months ago

        Can't play 90mins without injuring something. No deal.

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  24. Royal5
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 2 months ago

    C'mon Spurs! 😀

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  25. PFOR
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 2 months ago

    My friend is in the away end at WHL tonight. They brought a fine crowd.

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    1. Mole
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 2 months ago

      fair play. hope they give a good account.

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  26. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 2 months ago

    Arteta 4 key passes per game,
    Ramsey 2.17 - II - II - II
    Santos 4 kppg

    hmmm...

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    1. jamsiep
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 2 months ago

      'Key passes' can be very misleading though. I think any pass that leads to an effort on goal is counted as a 'key pass'. So a 2 foot sideways pass 40 yards out, that leads to a preposterous Dempsey long shot, will count as a key pass, whereas a magical through ball from Silva that leads to Dzeko being one-on-one with the keeper and then tripping over the ball won't count as one.

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      1. Suarezchomper
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 2 months ago

        Good summary 🙂

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        1. FPL Daniel
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 2 months ago

          Nice thinking Priest. So we need to combine with passes in opponent half and final third then.

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  27. Leysh
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 2 months ago

    Come on Shamrock!

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    1. Crouch Potato!
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 2 months ago

      Ditto!

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  28. Alonso14
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 2 months ago

    sub Taaarbat or Best??????

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  29. jamsiep
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 2 months ago

    Crouch wagon.

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  30. Spin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 2 months ago

    I never sub a peno taker

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