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9 November 2011 1749 comments
Paul Paul
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Chelsea’s trip to Blackburn last week was the final straw for many Fantasy managers. Week after week, we’d endured the defensive failings of Jose Bosingwa in the hope that his attacking returns would prove dividend but a place on the bench at Ewood Park prompted plenty to jump ship.

With clean sheets a rarity almost right across the board, Bosingwa’s forward raids always offered hope. A goal, a couple of assists and 7 bonus points early on kick-started a bandwagon that added 0.8 to his 5.5 starting price but as the gameweeks passed, his returns diminished. No clean sheet since the season opener at Stoke, 10 points in his previous seven appearances, part of a back-four that were swept aside at home by a ruthless Arsenal performance- the wheels had fallen off in spectacular fashion.

Saturday’s game certainly suggests the Portuguese player is no longer a first-choice pick. It seems as if Andre Villas-Boas has come to the same conclusion as the likes of Carlo Ancelotti before him- Bosingwa, for all his attacking merits, weakens the Blues back-four considerably. Branislav Ivanovic moved from the centre to take over- the Serb excelled at right-back last season, producing 4 goals and 5 assists compared to Ashley Cole’s zero goals and 5 assists on the opposite flank.

The installation of Ivanovic at full-back proved an instant success- an assist, clean sheet and 2 bonus points returned 11 Fantasy points and more than doubled his points haul for the season. Bosingwa owners are now on red alert and with a two-week international break now upon on, he’s already slipped in price as the “Transfers Out” rack up.

We take a look at both players’ performances at right-back in the previous two games to ascertain the difference in their respective contributions:

Average Positions

A look at the Chelsea average positions from each game shows Bosingwa (17 above) pushed up slightly higher than Ashley Cole (3) on the opposite flank against Arsenal, with John Obi Mikel (12) in a deep position similar to the left-back’s. While Cole and John Terry (26) stayed close together on the left, the gap between Bosingwa and Ivanovic (2) at centre-half was far greater, with Bosingwa’s forward runs leaving Chelsea exposed all-too-often.

While the Blackburn game (below) shows Ivanovic (2) virtually as high up as Bosingwa was against Arsenal, everything is relative. Here, Mikel (12) is level with the Serb and is closer to Ramires (7) than he was against Arsenal. On the opposite flank, Cole (3) is pushed up far higher than the previous game, as is Frank Lampard (8), with Chelsea using the left flank to better effect this time round.

Passing

A comparison of each player’s passing in the respective games is perhaps surprising. Bosingwa made a total of 47 passes against the Gunners, while Ivanovic produced 63 at Blackburn but 17% of Bosingwa’s came in the defensive third compared to just 7% of Ivanovic’s- with the latter far more defensively secure, you’d perhaps expect it to be the other way around.

Going forward, too, there’s an unexpected outcome- 36% of Ivanovic’s distribution came in the final third, compared to just 21% of Bosingwa’s- as a result, he bettered the Portuguese star’s crosses (5 to 3) and produced double the number of goalscoring chances. Bosingwa’s tendency to drift inside is highlighted by 24% of his passes coming from a more central position, whereas Ivanovic’s greater positioning offers better balance and maintains the team’s shape- only 7% of his distribution was away from the flank, with 2% coming from a corner.

A look at each player’s “Preferred Passing” offers a perfect insight into their respective mind-sets. Against Arsenal, John Obi-Mikel linked up with Bosingwa the least of any of the Blues back-four; he received 7 passes and played 4 to the right-back whereas against Blackburn, Ivanovic interacted with Mikel more than any Chelsea defender, playing 11 passes and receiving 15.

Bosingwa’s attacking outlook saw him make only 1 less pass to Ramires, in the right midfield role, than he played to Mikel- Ivanovic, on the other hand, made just 4 passes to Ramires in comparison to his 11 to Mikel, a clear example of his more cautious approach.

Tackling

The best illustration of each player’s contribution to the Chelsea cause is shown by the number of and, critically, position on the pitch of each of their tackles in the respective games. The comparison highlights the flaws in Bosingwa’s game- he made 10 tackles against Arsenal but only 3 of them came in his own half. Ivanovic’s instant solidity on the right flank and reading of the game is summed up perfectly in the above diagram- he made 14 tackles, with only 3 in the opposition half.

Shots Conceded

Chelsea conceded 13 shots against Arsenal and 12 against Blackburn. Looking at the stats alone, it seems like there was little defensive improvement but closer examination as to where the shots arrived from, shows a substantial difference. At home to the Gunners, Villas-Boas’ side were ripped apart- 12 of those shots were inside the box, with just 1 outside their own penalty box. Away at Blackburn, only 4 of Rovers’ attempts were inside the box, with 8 of the host side’s efforts from distance in comparison.

Clearly, the step up in solidity was marked. Unfortunately for Bosingwa and his Fantasy owners, given the thorough and analytically sharp mind of Villas-Boas, it seems highly unlikely that this will have gone un-noticed.

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  1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
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    I was thinking of wildcarding, but then I realised that I only have problems with Given and Warnock.
    It was hardly worth it since I had taken a 4 point hit below.
    I transferred out Murphy, Bosingwa and got in Drenthe and Jones.

    My question is, if I go on a wildcard spree now does that 4 hit that I confirmed previously, get erased?

    http://fantasy.premierleague.com/my-team/

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    1. andy85wsm
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      Yes it gets erased.

      Amazing team by the way.

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    2. adams_6
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      Yes it does, have no fear, wildcard away!

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      1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
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        Cheers lads.
        I am trying to resist the wild-card temptation, cos my team seems good on paper. It's just picking the right eleven that always snookers me.
        I just feel like I don't need the wildcard, its kinda burning a hole in my fpl pocket!
        Another wildcard will be given in January and I feel that the first wildcard will be made redundant.
        Wish I could sell the wildcard would give me piece of mind!

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        1. adams_6
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          I had to bang mine in early, GW4 for me but never looked back. 8 green arrows since

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    3. PL Ball
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      Wong link. Post your history page mate. 🙂 That link just takes us to our own team's page.

      That is if you were trying to link your team..

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  2. EL TANO
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    suarez to adebeyor and gabbidon or evans to someone awesome

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  3. Xand
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    Hi friends, greetings from across the pond. Curious to get some input on my current dilemma: my team is in a good enough position that I don't think I need to use my WC yet, but I'm still stuck with some notable deadweight in Given (Mr. no matchup is good enough for me!) and Jarvis, so I'll probably take a 4pt hit to rotate those two. Current lineup:

    Vorm
    Richards Raylor ShawX
    Silva VDV Nani Walters
    RVP Addy Sturridge

    Given---Simpson Olsson Jarvis

    Given that I can WC in a couple weeks, I just need a keeper who rotates with Vorm for this week and a midfielder who at least has a shot at getting > 2 pts. Have 11.1 to play with, so currently toying with something like Drenthe/Al-Habsi or Howard/Eagles or Brunt/Begovic. What do you guys think?

    Or should I just play Vorm and save the 4pt hit. Every time I bench him for someone with a better fixture he goes for 8+ pts anyway!

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    1. adams_6
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      Vorm is annoying the tits out of me. I've had him all season and always gets points when he shouldn't and he just sits on my bench giving me the bird! Bastard. haha

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      1. Xand
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        I think I've literally missed out on 30+ points from having him on my bench. I'm ready to just say screw it and play him every game.

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        1. adams_6
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          Yep, same here. Given is toast. Play Vorm and watch him concede 4 every game from now on!

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  4. Jinswick
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    Given ->

    a) Vorm - Adv: cheap, on form and enables Dunne -> Jones the following week. Dis: Not great fixtures, doesn't rotate that well with Ruddy
    b) Howard - Adv: Great fixtures and rotates perfectly with Ruddy. Dis: Expensive and prevents Dunne -> Jones the following week
    c) Begovic - Adv: Good fixtures, best team defensively. Dis: Expensive, already have 2 x STK defenders, doesn't rotate that well with Ruddy and prevents Dunne - Jones the following week.

    Vote please....

    XXX, Ruddy
    Dunne, Simpson, Brown, Wilkinson, Woodgate
    Silva, VDV, Ramsey, Sinclair, Moses
    RVP, Aguero, Adebayor

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    1. JCrosbie
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      not c in any way

      with b -norwich ar not gona keep much cleanies...

      id say A just

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      1. Jinswick
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        14 years, 1 month ago

        I think you're probably right. Worth doing this gameweek though? Given has (tot) and Vorm (MUN). Normally I would wait till next week, but I have no other pressing transfers and would lose 1 of my 2 freebies if I don't make a transfer this week.....

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    2. FF Dirtbag
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      Im doing Vorm//Ruddy and just playing Vorm every week, he will get cleanies now and then and get lots of save points otherwise, cause he is the best keeper at the moment.

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      1. Call Me Old Fashioned
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        +1 (I am on that in 2GW time!)

        Howard is also a good shout.

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    3. EL TANO
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      get westwood in for ludicrous fixtures upcoming and figure out how to ship ruddy out later

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      1. Jinswick
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        I did think about him, but how long is he likely to play for, ie. when is Mignolet AND Gordon back?

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  5. JCrosbie
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    any suggestions on free transfer?……

    krul vorm

    simpson kompany gabbidon evans naylor

    nani silva walters ramsey dyer

    v.persie aguero suarez

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    1. EL TANO
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      suarez to adebeyor and gabbidon or evans to someone awesome ..

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    2. Call Me Old Fashioned
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      evans for anyone

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  6. adams_6
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    Someone talk me out of getting Lampard in before I do something stupid...

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    1. Jinswick
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      Yeah, I want him as well. Could be a great move. Would mean losing Aguero for me...

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    2. JCrosbie
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      do it!!!

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    3. 1966 was a great year for E…
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      1 yellow away from suspension.

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      1. adams_6
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        Really? Didn't spot that. I'm still VERY tempted to trade Nani up for our little fat friend though. He's been the mainstay of so many seasons of FPL for me. Like an old friend..

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        1. 1966 was a great year for E…
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          Yeah, I've had him for whole seasons a few times. Not the best fixtures, but he can score against anyone.

          He picked a yellow up in the Carling Cup, only shows up as 3 on FPL.

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          1. adams_6
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            Yep, went under the radar a bit but he got 10 points when Arsenal spanked them. He's a big hitter, think I'll be taking the plunge.

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          2. ilikewotisee
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            tip for next 3 games,,,, wes brown... 3 clean sheets coming up, ya heard it ere first..

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      2. adams_6
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        Hang on. He's only got 3 YC in the league. Did he pick one up in the cup?

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        1. adams_6
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          Ah. Roger

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    4. Xand
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      Thinking of swapping him in for Nani when I WC. Why not? He's playing great and you can rotate him out for anyone in the game easy enough. Seems like a great differential.

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    5. FF Dirtbag
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      Always puts in a great performance, great presence and goal threat. Well worth it.

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    6. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
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      Depends on the rest of your team.
      Personally I wouldn't pick lampard 12m a lot esp with loads of 6m ish options around.
      I would say go for a mid price midfielder and save your cash so you can jump on the Hernandez bandwagon when it starts.
      Its one of my contingency plans (eventually) to ditch villa defensive players given and warnock, for dirt cheap starters, to get the little pea on the plate.

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      1. adams_6
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        Well I've got Ramsey and Walters already in the 6 mill bracket and looked at swapping Rooney for Hernandez but that little pea just hasn't been putting in much game time has he?

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        1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
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          Have you got Drenthe or Sessesgon or Sinclair?
          I think Hernandez will start more from here on in. Especially since Rooney, looks to be playing in midfield. Rooney is also united's most creative midfielder, Wellbeck is inexperienced, Berbatov is flaky and Owen is crocked.

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          1. adams_6
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            14 years, 1 month ago

            I'm hanging in there on Rooney in the belief that he will be back up top when Utd's midfield are fit again. Young, Cleverley etc. Drenthe has interested me but unproven. Lost patience with Sess early in th season when I had him. Dyer is my throw away midfielder in a 3-4-3 at the moment.

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  7. teto
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    Whos on penos for Blackburn?

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    1. Call Me Old Fashioned
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      Does it matter, they are rubbish? (In all seriousness I think MGP or Hoilett as Dunn is injured)

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    2. tezzaboy7
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      I dont think they've thought that far ahead.

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    3. teto
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      Might take a punt on one of their players, just looking to see who has the best chances of scoring

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      1. CFCTom
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        I'm captaining Hoilett next week.

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        1. teto
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          Really? Quite the punt there, then again they face blackburn

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          1. CFCTom
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            *Wigan (I may change my mind though)

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    4. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
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      would a penalty taker for Blackburn not just wenky chicken out?

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    5. RoysCallerAnne
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      Dunn, Pederson, Hoilett, Roberts in that order.

      There is a tab on the top of the page you are reading right now. It's called "Set Piece Takers". Those FFScouts do a little bit of work sometimes!!

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      1. adams_6
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        14 years, 1 month ago

        All your 38 years showing some experience there! 😉

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        1. RoysCallerAnne
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          haha...I know you love TOWIE...you're just too old and ashamed to admit it

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          1. adams_6
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            14 years, 1 month ago

            I don't!!!! HONEST!!
            It's like looking at a road accident, you just can't help yourself!

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    6. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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      Well no one seems to have got it right so guess i might as well tell you. It will be Yakubu assuming Dunny is not on the pitch

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      1. RoysCallerAnne
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        I bow to your Rovers knowledge, as always, SD!!

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  8. thatasiankidwhomeveryonelov…
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    Hey guys, just wildcarded this week. Any help would be appreciated!

    vorm (krul)
    kompany p.jones enrique (r.taylor) (3.9 def)
    vdv silva ramsey eagles (4.1 mid)
    rvp chico graham

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    1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
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      Looks like a solid starting 11 but a bit skimpy on the subs. You will only have one starting sub I assume?

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      1. thatasiankidwhomeveryonelov…
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        Yeah, and .2 in the bank :$

        I was thinking of choosing 2 out of the 3 (vdv, silva, rvp) to free up more money, but they seem to be nigh necessary. Also I'm not so sure about chico, graham, eagles.

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        1. CFCTom
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          How can you not be sure about Eagles and Graham?, they are quality.

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    2. A.
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      The only 4.1 mid is Shane Ferguson, and he's not playing a game anytime soon, i'd say you're better off downgrading your defence, either Kompany or Phil Jones to a 4.0, which allows you to get a 4.0 instead of a 3.9 as your other def, and a ~6 mil mid to go with it.

      The only reason you would get a defender for 3.9 - they were on a shit team to start with and played badly enough/stopped being first choice so that lots of people transferred them out.
      Your options would be Caulker (SWA) Lopez (WIG) Orr (QPR) Hanley (BLA) plus a few more who have played 0 minutes this season.
      None of them have played more than 90 minutes total over the last 7 gameweeks or so, avoid.

      Other than that its not a bad team, i'm not sold on Chico yet, but then i'm preferring Dzeko over him in my WC team and they're both subject to rotation.

      I recommend Kompany -> Wilkinson, 5th defender N Taylor maybe? And mid maybe Walters/Sess/Drenthe/ whoever you can afford with value somewhere around 6.0

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      1. RoysCallerAnne
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        • 15 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Good advice Archie, up until Kompany to Wilko. If I was him I would keep Kompany and Jones. Downgrade Enrique to Wilko instead.
        Ramsey to Drenthe or Sess (as he already has RVP)

        Team value must be pretty low thatasiankid...etc??

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        1. thatasiankidwhomeveryonelov…
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          yeah super low, friends got me to play 3 weeks ago :p thanks for the advice, obviously i don't know anything. i did think that ramsey and rvp were redundant. question though, why put points into players that most likely won't get play time?

          thanks again for the advice, i think i will do enrique -> wilko and ramsey -> sess

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  9. Ray Allen Iverson
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    hey guys. which would be the best option and would it be worth taking the 4pt hit?

    A - Ade-Roon
    B- Sturridge - Aguero
    C- Sturridge - Chico
    D- Surridge - suraz?

    chelski got their D straight now
    vorm on fire at home.. but man u shuld still score..
    agureo might be rested for CL game..

    also should i cash in on rtaylor now or keep him, the next 3 fixtures ppl gona dump him. got him at 4.2

    could go to brown

    vorm (Krul)
    richards, pjones, shawX, (rtaylor, simpson)
    vdv,silva,eagles,drethne,(dyer)
    RVP, ade, sturridge

    thanks
    games getting harder and harder..

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  10. CFCTom
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    I'm not too sure why people aren't playing Vorm next week, he will surely get several save points, has a good chance of a clean sheet and may even save a pen. I'll be playing him over Al-Habsi.

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    1. RoysCallerAnne
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      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      You are prob right CFCTom. I'm on WC though and I'm seriously considering dumping Vorm (especially if he gains another 0.1 by Friday week).

      I'm looking closely at a Westwood/ Krul combo until the winter WC

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    2. applebonkers
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      may even save a pen is silly logic

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      1. CFCTom
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        14 years, 1 month ago

        No it's not. Ashley Young will win a pen by diving when they can't break Swansea down and Roonpig wont score because he's shit and Vorm is brilliant.

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        1. RoysCallerAnne
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          sigh....CFCTom, your rabid anti United posts are tiresome

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          1. CFCTom
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            14 years, 1 month ago

            I have never said anything anti-Manure.

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    3. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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      Why aren't you playing Al-Habsi? You couldn't get enough of ripping into Rovers the other day, and now your not playing your goalie when he has Blackburn at home and captaining Hoilett?

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      1. CFCTom
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        14 years, 1 month ago

        I was doing that to annoy you, I think Blackburn are playing well. Plus, Wigan have the worst defence in the league. (Possibly the world)

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        1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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          And why were you trying to annoy me? All because i said Barcelona wouldn't win at the weekend?

          Oh yeah, what was the score in that game btw?

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          1. CFCTom
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            You said 1-1. 😉 It wasn't that.

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            1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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              lol luckily i laid Barcelona so the result was fine by me. What was your prediction for the game?

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              1. CFCTom
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                Being only a casual watcher of La Liga I assumed Barcelona would win easily before the game, about 5 mins in I realised that was not the case. I think Real Madrid will win one of the CL or La Liga this year though.

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  11. CFCTom
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    St. James' Park is no more...

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    1. A.
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      And sportsdirect.com@StJames'Park is no more

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  12. adams_6
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    Bedtime. Good chatting guys. I'm of to fall asleep listening to the Tuesday club

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  13. ddande
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    Ade > Klasnic too knee jerkey? I have VDV, and would rather have a striker who scores. Thanks in advance

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    1. CFCTom
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      Yeah, those strikers who score are the bee's knees. I'd do it.

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      1. ddande
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        Think I might. Thanks

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    2. meltedman
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      Don't take out Ade home to Villa, this is the talk of a lunatic.

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      1. ddande
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        Really? He hasn't scored a goal since mid sep. Every week I keep telling myself he's due, with no payoff. You don't think VDV's enough coverage for Villa?

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        1. Epic Fail
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          It's not about 'coverage', it's about the right players.
          Villa defence is shite, I wouldn't bet against Ade doing something.

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          1. ddande
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            Cheers! I'll sit on it until next week. Bolton looked pretty good last week, and can see them scoring alot in the next few games, and Ade's been frusterating me a bit. Maybe 1 more game,Thanks!

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        2. Henry Hill
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          Good username man, watched Thrilla in Manilla earlier. Joe was some legend

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          1. ddande
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            I watched it yesterday. He was the man!

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        3. meltedman
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          He's still a guaranteed starter in a potent Spurs side with a nice match-up. Also a double game-week coming up. I'm looking to take him out in GW 17 (possibly)

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          1. Shakhtar Senseless
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            Mate, were we told to change our usernames earlier on? I didn't know they were offensive!

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  14. McTown
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    Need to offload given with bad form and bad fixtures. But who too? team linked... thinking howard maybe

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    1. meltedman
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      Howard is the best choice if you must, but it really isn't worth it imo. I would be more keen to offload Milner if i was you, ride Vorm out for now.

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      1. McTown
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        14 years, 1 month ago

        I know but again who too? already have RVP for arsenal coverage. Could downgrade to get aguero in for suarez...

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  15. CFCTom
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    Each Premier League team's best/most valuable player?

    IMO:
    Arsenal- RVP/Wilshire
    Aston Villa- Agbonlahor
    Blackburn- Hoilett
    Bolton- Eagles
    Everton- Drenthe
    Chelsea- Lampard
    Fulham- Ruiz
    Liverpool- Suarez
    Man City- Silva
    Man U- Rooney
    Newcastle- Gutierez... (you know who I mean)
    Norwich- Pilkington
    QPR- Helguson
    Stoke- Etherington
    Sunderland- Sessegnon/Elmohamady
    Swansea- Vorm
    Spurs- Bale
    WBA- Odemwingie
    Wigan- Moses/Al-Habsi
    Wolves- O'Hara

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    1. Elniñorules
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      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Fair enough.

      Disagree on some.
      Bolton: Cahill
      Chelsea: Mata (Lamps maybe 2 seasons ago & earlier)
      Fulham: Dempsey
      Stoke: ShawX
      Sunderland: Larsson

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      1. Shakhtar Senseless
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Modric!!! Bale is not Spurs best player, he's not even second best. Scott Parker takes that spot. I'm a United fan, and I would kill for Luka in my team. At least Roonpig would be back up top

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    2. Shakhtar Senseless
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Everton- Baines.
      Chelsea- Mata
      Fulham- Zamora
      Newcastle- Cabaye
      Stoke- Begovic (apart from last weekend)
      Swansea- Dyer
      Spurs- Modric!!!
      Wigan- Al-Habsi

      That's my contention.

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      1. Elniñorules
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Oh c'mon. SuperVorm is by far the best, probably the best in the League so far.

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    3. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      This is from a fantasy football point of view right?

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      1. Shakhtar Senseless
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        I'm talking about best player in general mate.

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        1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          ah ok. My input:

          Blackburn - Samba

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    4. jamsiep
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Arsenal - RVP
      Aston Villa - Bent
      Blackburn - Samba
      Bolton - Klasnic
      Everton - Drenthe
      Chelsea - Mata
      Fulham - Zamora
      Liverpool - Suarez
      Man City - Silva
      Man Utd - Rooney
      Newcastle - Ba
      Norwich - Hoolahan
      QPR - Barton
      Stoke - Begovic
      Sunderland - Bendtner
      Swansea - Vorm
      Spurs - Modric
      WBA - Odemwingie
      Wigan - Diame
      Wolves - Johnson

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    5. udit
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Arsenal - RVP
      Aston Villa - Bent
      Blackburn - Samba/Hoilett
      Bolton - Cahill
      Everton - Baines
      Fulham - Zamora
      Liverpool - Suarez
      Man City - Silva
      Man Utd - Rooney/Vidic
      Newcastle - Ba/Krul
      Norwich - Hoolahan
      QPR - Barton
      Stoke - Shawcross / Begovic
      Swansea - Vorm
      Spurs - Modric
      WBA - Odemwingie
      Wigan - Moses/Al-Habsi
      Wolves - O'Hara

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      1. Elniñorules
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        vidic? erm. okayyy

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        1. udit
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          Why not?He's probably one of the best defenders ATM

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      2. Jafalad
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Arsenal - RVP
        Villa - Bent
        Blackburn - Samba
        Bolton - Cahill
        Everton - Baines
        Fulham - Dempsey
        Liverpool - Gerrard
        Man City - Silva
        Man U - Roonpig
        Newcastle - Gutierrez
        Norwich - Pilkington
        QPR - Barton
        Stoke - Woodgate
        Swansea - Sinclair
        Spurs - VDV
        WBA - Odemthingy
        Wigan - Rodallega
        Wolves - Jarvis

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        1. Elniñorules
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          Woodgate? LOL. Was that a joke, Jafa? 😛

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          1. Jafalad
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 1 month ago

            It takes quality to recognise quality. 😉

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  16. tajulariff
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Mata > Lampard
    Aguero > Dzeko / Ballo - whoever will play based on the particular week

    Okay? Not Okay?

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    1. tajulariff
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      OR...

      Mata > Lampard
      Aguero > Graham
      Drenthe > Silva

      hmmmmm....

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    2. Elniñorules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Both horizontal transfers imo.

      I'd rather get Roonpig & Bale.

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      1. tajulariff
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        already have Rooney & VDV

        team at the moment:

        Vorm (Ruddy)

        McAuley? Barnett? ShawX (Simpson)(Warnock)

        VDV Drenthe Eagles Mata (Moses)

        Rooney RVP Aguero

        0.1M in the bank

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        1. Elniñorules
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          Ah nice front 7.

          I'd downgrade Aguero to someone like Graham/Studge/Ba & improve the defence.

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    3. meltedman
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      You've already made 2 transfers this gameweek, calm down you lunatic!

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      1. tajulariff
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Hahaha...

        Yea forgot to mention this for GW13 but have to take 4 points hit.. really want Lampard so badly.. he'll be my season keeper..

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  17. sackenfox
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Can anybody tell me the preferred Man U defensive line up? Is johnny evens in there anywhere?

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    1. Shakhtar Senseless
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      No. If everyone is fit it looks like this

      Rafael/Smalling Vidic Jones/Rio Evra

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    2. UnderstandablyDistraught
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      No he is not

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    3. sackenfox
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      thanks

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  18. halnone
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    best sunderland defender??

    also, is it worth getting Baines? decent fixtures but hasn't produced this season yet.

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    1. Elniñorules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      brown

      Not until Saha/Cahill fire.

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      1. halnone
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        thanks

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  19. synchron
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    hey guys, need some help for my next GW

    who should i play from my team?

    vorm krul
    brown kompany woodgate enrique saylor
    bale walters ramsey mata silva
    agbon adebayor RVP

    very stuck 🙁

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    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Any particular players you're stuck deciding between?

      Not really gonna sit here and pick your team for you.

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      1. synchron
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        between playing ramsey and agbon

        and woodgate and enrique

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        1. Epic Fail
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          Really?

          Personally I'd play Ramsey and Woodgate quite easily between those options.

          I can see Arsenal scoring a couple against Norwich. Whether RAmsey is involved in the goals, who knows, but might be good for an assist or something.

          And Stoke at home to a newly promoted side vs Liverpool away to Chelsea?

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          1. synchron
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 1 month ago

            how about between walters and agbon? after that beating from bolton, not sure if walters can make that cut compared to agbon's high scoring last week.

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            1. udit
              • 14 Years
              14 years, 1 month ago

              walters

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    2. Elniñorules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      krul; agbon komp saylor on the bench. in that order.

      go with the home sides.

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  20. OPTA FPL
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    anyone considering Tony Hibbert?

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    1. udit
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      not guaranteed, practically no attacking returns but cheap, worth it if your strapped of cash but i'd rather go for jagielka

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  21. Jinswick
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone know when Gordon and Mignolet are due back from injury? I'm contemplating a punt on Westwood, but only if he's guaranteed to start at least the next 4 gameweeks...

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    1. udit
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      I Think gordon's out for some time and the injuries and bans section says mignolet could be out for months so I think it's a punt you could consider taking.

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  22. Twelve years a slave
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    I think we are safe until the xmas wildcard , making Westwood a good punt , his fixtures are the best of all the cheap goalies.

    He has recieved plenty of praise for his performance against man u , there is even talk of him being the new number one , even after the other two regain fitness.

    Mingolet out for a couple of months , so at least until we get the xmas wildcard , while Gordon hasnt even resumed training yet , and would only be rushed should westwood prove to be utterly hopeless

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    1. Jinswick
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Cool. It's between Westwood and Vorm for me - Vorm more secure long term and on form, but Westwood has the fixtures up to the Jan wildcard. I also have Brown though - would this sway you to getting Vorm or Westwood?

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      1. Twelve years a slave
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        I have Vorn Westwood and Brown

        Dont like having Brown and Westwood , buut in the short term (until xmas , it looks good.)

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        1. Jinswick
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          Ah fair enough. My other keeper is Ruddy, so the new one would probably play most weeks up to the Jan wildcard. Backline is below - 2 freebies and 0.4m in the bank. What would you do? I'm looking at Given & Dunne -> Westwood/Vorm & P Jones

          Given, Ruddy
          Dunne, Simpson, Brown, Wilkinson, Woodgate

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          1. Twelve years a slave
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 1 month ago

            looks reasonable

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          2. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 1 month ago

            Jinswick, how is fatherhood threating you?

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  23. Squirtle2Blastoise
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    I'm sorry, but this is a garbage analysis. Are you seriously comparing positions and statistics for a game against Blackburn vs. a game against Arsenal? This actually tells you absolutely nothing.

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    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      You don't have to take anything from the article, luckily for you.

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  24. Red_mist
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Which would be the ideal team for 105.2m?

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    1. udit
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      I like your team name. 😉

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      1. Red_mist
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Thank you.By the way your team seems to be doing fairly well too.I hope your team becomes truly indomitable.

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        1. udit
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          Thanks.

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    2. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      my team exctly now 105.2M
      http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/938607/event-history/11/

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  25. Billy Ketsu
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Afternoon all

    The old international break's a bit dull, isn't it. Still, the Euro play-offs should be quite exciting and watching Spain hammer Engerland will be entertaining at least.

    I noticed that young Titus has returned to the fold priced at a juicy 4.2. If Bernard Cribbins makes any noises about him getting his place back that's a lovely bargain for the next month or so.

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  26. Jinswick
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    A lot of my planning seems to come down to this:

    Rooney or Nani?

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    1. Jafalad
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Get both. Solves ya problem, J-dubs 😉

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  27. Daniyal
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Vorm Begovic

    Bosingwa Pjones Kompany RTaylor Ntaylor

    Mata Silva VDV mPetrov Derry(qpr)

    Sturridge Adebayor Balotelli

    guys i am thinking of Vermaelen or McAuley For bosingwa and drenthe for petrov(these two transfers worth a hit?) and getting aguero/hernandez for balotelli or maybe both for balo n ade guys what should i do tell me i hv 2.5 in bank..................if i get aguero n vermaelen i would hv to get allen(swa) n if i get McAuley then i can afford all players so guys which of these will score good till January

    A aguero
    B hernandez
    C drenthe
    D allen
    E pilkington
    F McAuley

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    1. Daniyal
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      guys are aguero hernandez worth having till january?

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    2. Jafalad
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Bit of a mix there when it comes to scoring. Polar opposites in some ways but I guess you want a combo.

      Pilkington and Aguero would be my choices.

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      1. Daniyal
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        aguero does hv some tough fixtures............... n do u think i should hold ade till january n get Vermaelen or get McAuley n upgrade ade maybe by hernandez or some other striker?

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        1. Jafalad
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          Aguero scores against anyone. That's not yor problem with him. He will be rested to high heaven so you need to ask yourself if you are prepared to put up with this?

          January is a long way off. I'm all for long term planning but I'd rather just take the next 6 fixtures in front of me.

          I wouldn't get Vermaelen and MaCauley will earn few points. See my team for ideas.

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  28. everyday, i'm shufflin…
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Price Change | Thu 10 Nov 03:00 UK Time

    + | None
    - | Carragher, Shawcross, Dawson ; Nasri

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    1. Jafalad
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Hasn't Vorm and RVP just risen? 😕

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      1. everyday, i'm shufflin…
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Jafalad.. Their price was increased at 03:00 (UK Time) of Wed 9 Nov. No rise this morning.

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  29. Nicti
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    is a team value of 102.4 and .1 in bank seem low? 🙁

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    1. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      yes

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      1. Nicti
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        wats the average?

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        1. udit
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          Theres no average, but approximately around 103.3

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          1. Epic Fail
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 1 month ago

            😀

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        2. OPTA FPL
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          yours

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    2. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      It's higher than mine. But I have a much better ranking than many people with higher values. It really doesn't matter 'that' much.

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      1. OPTA FPL
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        higher rank now not mean in May.
        with high value, from Christmas thay can pick a better team than you

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        1. Epic Fail
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          Can, doesn't mean they will. The best 11 players aren't necessarily the most expensive players.

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          1. OPTA FPL
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 1 month ago

            remember with higher value, they just can copy your team and put another better options more, you have no way to tin them

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            1. Epic Fail
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 1 month ago

              They will always be one transfer behind.
              Are you new to this game?

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              1. OPTA FPL
                • 14 Years
                14 years, 1 month ago

                this is my first season

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                1. gravless
                  • 14 Years
                  14 years, 1 month ago

                  A huge chunk of supposed team value is tied up in players you wont want to sell, Vorm, Silva, RVP, VDV etc, so to a large extent it's meaningless.

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          2. Billy Ketsu
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 1 month ago

            Exactly.

            One of the guys in my league spent the first half of last season building up his team value to 110m, way more than mine, but I beat him by choosing better players. He picked the more expensive ones and had a great looking team but they weren't the top scoring ones over the last few weeks.

            You don't need a huge budget to do well, you just need to pick the right players.

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            1. Epic Fail
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 1 month ago

              Indeed. Of course I'd like to have a high team value, but picking the right players is far more important. I could easily have oneof the highest team values in the game if I wanted to, but I would have barely any points to show for it.

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      2. OPTA FPL
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        it's true matter, imagin what you can do with 110M in your pocket.

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    3. Nicti
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Thanks everyone

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