Dugout Discussion

Sunday Dugout Discussion

27 November 2011 2378 comments
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While the footballing community rightly reels from the frankly unfathomable and tragic news of Gary Speed’s passing, the Dugout Discussion opens in more solemn tones in shock at this news…

Our first of two fixtures today is in Wales where, rather perversely now, Speed had been seeming to build a bright future for football in his home country. Whether many of the Welsh players (on both sides) are in the right mind is hard to tell but the fixture of Swansea vs Aston Villa will go ahead as planned. Teams in full are…

Swansea XI: Vorm; Rangel, Monk, Williams, Taylor; Britton, Allen, Gower, Dyer, Sinclair; Graham

Villa XI: Given; Hutton, Collins, Dunne, Warnock; Herd, Delph; N’Zogbia, Heskey, Agbonlahor; Bent.

The Premier League weekend will then finish with the big fixture of the weekend as Kenny Dalglish’s Moneyball squad come up against the Nouveau riches of Manchester City.

RIP Gary Speed.

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  1. Carlos Danger
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Would anyone else like to join me in basking in the glory of their own game week transfers?

    I did Suarez and Agbon to Hernandez and Adebayor this week for my first hit of the season

    Hopefully hernandez train will pick up some steam, its fun to be ahead of the curve for once

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    1. McTown
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Ahead of the curve? ade been scoring for me for weeks man! but still nice transfers !

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      1. Carlos Danger
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Haha I meant with Hernandez, clearly I was late to the Adebayor party

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    2. Jukesy
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Any transfer I make I seem to lose out on, but in the long run they work out I guess. I can't join you but I shall certainly congratulate you

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      1. Carlos Danger
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        I feel your pain, Drenthe owners must be pretty bummed, he surely would have wreaked havoc on 10 man bolton

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        1. Hotrod
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          14 years, 1 month ago

          I did Nani to Bale, a 3 pt swing. Not exactly an inspired transfer

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  2. Djerbil
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    DID it:
    Barton-> Bale
    and still 1.5 left in Bank...

    Yapeeeeeeee

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    1. Menly
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      Good transfer that

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  3. everyday, i'm shufflin…
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    Please let me try again for what to do with Evans + Bendtner.

    What do you think with these choices?

    A: Upgrade Evans, but Keep Bendtner as he will play wol, BLA
    B: Get Jagielka + Ba
    C: Get Enrique + Ba

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    1. McDog
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      C if you can afford it.

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    2. Jukesy
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Get Jagielka, and keep Bendtner at least for the next 2 fixtures.

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    3. heartsattack
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      There won't be much between B and C imo. Each as good as the other. Do not keep Bendtner.

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    4. everyday, i'm shufflin…
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      Tough decision for me.. Btw, I'm now leaning towards C.

      Liverpool seems to be more defensive away and Everton haven't yet kept CS at home.. 🙂

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  4. SavageCabbage
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    De Gea Ruddy
    Walker Brown Naylor Wilko Simpson
    Mata Silva Sess Ramsey Ferguson
    Ada RVP Agbon
    4.7 in the bank.
    What is my most pressing transfer? Agbon to Ba/Hernandez?

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    1. AIRMILES
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      No - you need to do something with Ferguson first. Bale would be a nice addition to your squad.

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  5. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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    39 points net. GAH!!! 🙁 What a gross gameweek - I'm glad it is behind me! 😥 No bonus probably, either ...

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    1. Screaming Midget
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Make your mind up.. is it nett or gross?

      🙂

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        14 years, 1 month ago

        😆 43 - 4. You're right - it's GROSS! 😉

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        1. 4vets
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          14 years, 1 month ago

          Roughly the same boat. Onwards and downwards 😉

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          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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            14 years, 1 month ago

            Roughly ... ? 😕 😉

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            1. 4vets
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              14 years, 1 month ago

              Too depressed to actually look but, on the upside, am currently drowning my sorrows 🙂

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              1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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                14 years, 1 month ago

                Garganega ftw!!! 😀

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    2. @ImpressiveTackl
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      I got 38. God awful.

      And I am out of the PP cup already.

      Wah wah wah.

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        • 16 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        OH SHIT! 🙁 Not so good - bad luck!

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    3. hillbillypete
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      53 with at least 6 bonus

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      1. hillbillypete
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        14 years, 1 month ago

        shud be through in cup

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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          Why don't you just sod orfff!!! 😉

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      2. JK - Cønt ⭐
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        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        28 after substitutions, before bonuses 🙁 still be top of my ML though.

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  6. hillbillypete
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Suarez and Ramsey OUT

    Ba and Bale IN

    for freee

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    1. Forest4Life
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Yes but Id seriously consider Yak

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      1. hillbillypete
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        did last night before and price changes

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    2. Declan
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      No.

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    3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Bah! Good moves, imo. 🙂

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    4. Jukesy
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Liverpool have 5 average to good fixtures in their next 5. And Ramsey plays Wigan next

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      1. hillbillypete
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Ramsey has had easy fixtures and done nothing. Suarez isnt work the money.

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  7. super zlatan
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    Fook it. Just done...Suarez and drenthe out, ba and bale in.
    Leaves me with this

    Vorm
    Komp. Enrique. Jones
    Vdv. Bale. Silva. Brunt
    Ba. Ade. Rvp

    Subs. Ruddy. Dyer. Simp. Rjohnson.

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    1. The Light Knight
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      rjohnson jones?

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      1. super zlatan
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Roger Johnson. He is a sub. Gona get rid when wildcarding. I have jones.

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        1. Jukesy
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          Why Drenthe out when you could've got rid of Brunt?

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          1. super zlatan
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            14 years, 1 month ago

            Brunt is better imo

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  8. McTown
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    Ok is suarez to ba all good?

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    1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      i'm doing it tonight

      catch the rise

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    2. super zlatan
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      Just done it myself. Feels good

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      1. Messi & fabregas
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        14 years, 1 month ago

        wont feel that good with the kind run of fixtures suarez has

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    3. McTown
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      just as price going up today?

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      1. McDog
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        14 years, 1 month ago

        Yes.

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    4. FF Dirtbag
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      Got Ba in myself. Catching the rise. Great player, in form, can score against anyone.

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  9. Carlos Danger
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    Did Rangel get injured today?

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    1. Hybrid.power
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      Yup.

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    2. Alan The Llama
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      yeah, slipped over, looked like an ankle injury

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  10. Bsal
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    RMT

    given al habsi
    p jones richards enrique (rtaylor brown)
    bale silva walcott walters (pilkington)
    ba adebayor rvp(C)

    just done bendtner-adebayor n lamp-walcott for 4 pt hit

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  11. Rui
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    What's the deal with VDV, is he still a guaranteed starter? I remember reading yesterday that Redknapp was feeling "sorry" for keeping defoe out the team and he can only play him or Rafa alongside Ade. Should I ditch him for Bale (already have Ade) or keep?

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    1. Cyril Figgis
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Yes he is. He was injured this week, but no way is he going to be dropped for Defoe considering the form he's in.

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    2. udit
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      You a cricket fan?

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      1. Rui
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Ok cheers Jimmyr.
        @Udit, yep.

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        1. udit
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          14 years, 1 month ago

          Indian cricket fan?

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          1. Rui
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 1 month ago

            Yep, as well as a frustrated Tendulkar fan! I assume your an india fan too, any idea which channel shows the WI series live? I know SS show highlights but can't seem to catch any live coverage... guess it's quite early.

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  12. FF Dirtbag
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Considering downgrading Nani for a free transfer. Got 0.4 mill in the bank.

    Front 8 at the moment is:
    Nani Silva VDV Ramsey (Dyer)
    Ade RVP Ba

    Maybe Nani -> Larsson
    Was thinking Bale but will be too much spurs cover. Any other suggestions?

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  13. Back on the horse
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Will Bendtner come good?

    I'm thinking of doing bendy -> sturridge

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    1. Jukesy
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      Keep him for 2 GWs, Sturridge has Newcastle and Man City, and Bendtner has wolves and blackburn.

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      1. Back on the horse
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        14 years, 1 month ago

        hmmm yeah but he had Wigan at home this gw 🙂

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        1. everyday, i'm shufflin…
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          Good point.. I almost made my mind that Bendtner will be out.

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  14. mr. inconspicuous
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Is it silly to do Ageuro to Adebayor? Can't see Aguero playing against Norwich.

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    1. applebonkers
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      i think if you are going to do he's the one to do it for. other than RVP he's the only big striker with the fixture, form (personal and club) and a 90 minute place right now

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      1. mr. inconspicuous
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Cheers mate, might pull the trigger. I was going to save my transfer this week and then do Aguero to Adebayor and Sturridge to Ba.

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    2. AIRMILES
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      who are your other strikers?

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      1. mr. inconspicuous
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        RVP and sturridge.

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        1. AIRMILES
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          Maybe upgrade Sturridge to Ade if you can afford it, otherwise, Sturridge to Ba perhaps. Think you should keep Aguero. If he plays against Norwich imagine the damage he will do!

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    3. McDog
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      At least wait to see does Aguero start in the carling cup.

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    4. reez80
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      i don't think aguero will start because of crucial champ league match vs bayern. Balotelli will serve 1 match ban on CC match and availiable for next GW.

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    5. sla9sa
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      I think he will play and Ballotelli and Silva won't. He needs Aguero in form and he has hardly played in the last few weeks.

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  15. Menly
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Well its great to be finally out of that gameweek! Made some poor decisions but hey ho!
    Anyway bring on the transfers!

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Huh. Already done mine - not the only one, either ... 🙂

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      1. sla9sa
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        No fear of injuries?

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  16. exammy
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    Team linked have no idea what to do with team 6.2m in bank
    Any of Eagles Moses or Sinclair to Nani or Bale?
    Wilkinson to Baines?
    Given to De Gea?

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  17. mufc802
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    My PP Cup comes down to bonus points. I need Kompany to get 3 bonus points and Sturridge to get 1 or less to win.

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    1. AIRMILES
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      Mata will get the 3 - and I imagine Terry will get the 2 with the goal and clean sheet. Sturridge 1 imo. Howeve, doubt Kompany will get 3.... but don't know who will.

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    2. Hybrid.power
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      Same here Yateszy. Come on boys!

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    3. Jukesy
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Should be alright, Kompany was the only goalscorer so should get the 3. And it's either Sturridge or Cole for the 1 point.

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    4. sla9sa
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      Silva will get a bonus point together with Adams. Kompany should get two bonus points at least. He cleared some good shots.

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  18. Le Bluff
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Sturridge at 6.6 has to be such a bargain. Very surprised at his 6.4% ownership. Suarez > Sturridge, Ramsey > Bale are looking likely transfers for me this week.

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    1. hillbillypete
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      rather have BA...plays 90 mins and on pens

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    2. AIRMILES
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      3 of their next 4 games are away - I'd go for a different striker. Adebayor?

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      1. liamhennessy
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        14 years, 1 month ago

        3 of his 6 goals have been away from home

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  19. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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    My tie is genuinely a contender for lowest scoring of the round. 41 - 27

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    1. Demí
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      Hon John

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      1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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        What?

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        1. Demí
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          Mon John

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          1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
            • 16 Years
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            😕

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  20. hillbillypete
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    casual strikeforce of RVP, ADE, BA now

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    1. Demí
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      I'll take that and raise you an RVP, Ade and Aguero strikeforce

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        14 years, 1 month ago

        I'll take that, and raise you a Rooney, Adebayor and van Persie strike force ... 😛

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        1. Demí
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          Aguero at home to Norwich > Rooney away to Villa ... 😉

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          1. @ImpressiveTackl
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            14 years, 1 month ago

            Rooney in the starting XI > Aguero on the bench.

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          2. futbolnotsoccer
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            14 years, 1 month ago

            Aguero RVP Rooney, beaches.

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            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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              14 years, 1 month ago

              http://www.paphostravelguide.com/paphos/paphos-cyprus-beaches.jpg

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              1. futbolnotsoccer
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                14 years, 1 month ago

                http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01411/dday_1411175c.jpg

                this is more like it.

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          3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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            • 16 Years
            14 years, 1 month ago

            I don't care where Rooney is playing, personally! 😀

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    2. FF Dirtbag
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      Same for me. Biggest Kneejerk front 3 ever.

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      1. Call Me Old Fashioned
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Knee jerk front 3 here too. RVP, Ade, Hernandez

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        1. FF Dirtbag
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          Pays off tho AJ.

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    3. J0E
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      I'm sticking with y casual RVP, Ade, Sturridge for now ...but admit to coveting your Ba.

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  21. Waldaz
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    So, Rooney -> Ade

    Any reason why I shouldn't do it now?

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    1. FF Dirtbag
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      Only reason would be that you might want Rooney back eventually. Other then that for the next few games I would do it.

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    2. udit
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      let's see, fixtures are terrific, if you've kept him this long might as well keep him for WOL, even chelsea demolished them, is on free kicks and pens. food for thought

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  22. GHB
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Now back to me says - I read this site a lot and make the off comment, I felt I wanted to say so bore off..yeah if he is only 17 he has gotta learn but if people don't let him know he never will!

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  23. @ImpressiveTackl
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    Robbie Savage on Gary Speed on 606: "I remember when Gary took over as Wales manager and there were rumours I'd come back. I was on the phone to him constantly saying 'Speedo give me one more chance.' He said: 'listen, 10 years ago maybe.' I kept on and he said 'I'll give you one more chance' I said 'seriously?' and he says: 'Yes, we need a bus driver.'"

    RIP Gary.

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    1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      X-D

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    2. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
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      😀

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  24. Scroobius Mac
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    What are people doing with Kenny if they own him? Thinking about getting Cerny. Going to play SuperVorm most weeks anyway so might as well get a keeper who rotates and has a small chance of a cleanie.

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  25. Locarno
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Can't even be bothered to see if 41 + BPs is enough to get me through in the Cup. That only gets interesting when I'm up against someone who actually posts on here.

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    1. Gnu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Problem is, when you DO play someone who posts on here..... you get beat!!! 🙂

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  26. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    I'm clutching at straws but any chance baines and Howard will get any bp's? Still will lose h2h as see kompany getting at least 2

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    1. Cyril Figgis
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      Very little I'm afraid.

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      1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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        14 years, 1 month ago

        Thought so, oh well never mind

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  27. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    bye luis, i hope to have you back soon!

    hello ba ba black striker, you have many points?

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    1. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      RACIST!!! (joke)

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    2. FF Dirtbag
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      With his run after Chelsea. I expect at least one hatric ha!! Should hopefully get something against chelsea too, in form player, chelsea defence aint all that.

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    3. @ImpressiveTackl
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      Can't quite work out if this is racist.

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        • 16 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Golly - Wog alert already? Language isn't racist - people are! 😉

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        1. 4vets
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          +42

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        2. Alan The Llama
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          I can think of a few words, that unless used in the context of a discussion about racism, which clearly are racist. Well done, that's one of them.

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    4. Call Me Old Fashioned
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      Yeah, look closer. He does have many points.

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      1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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        14 years, 1 month ago

        yes sir yes sir three bags full

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  28. unoaime
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    Suarez > Adebayor = obvious?

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    1. Hybrid.power
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      Yes.

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      1. Messi & fabregas
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        u should have both of them imo

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    2. sla9sa
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Don't get rid of Saurez yet.

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      1. J0E
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        gonna disagree here. Ditch Suarez now. I did this week for Ade...I'm 9pt p on the deal after only one week, after bonus and many more weeks of Ade goals and suarez 2pts that's going to prove to be a great move.

        Others on here ditched him last week and the week before for the likes of RVP, Ba and Hernandez...all scoring...all good prospects.

        Suarez also has a nuremberg style nazi trial hanging over his buck toothed racist head.

        No offence, but anyone who says don't ditch Suarez is either
        a)clinically insane
        b)a nazi
        c) adverse to getting loads of points

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        1. Gnu
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
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          lol @Jonty

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          1. J0E
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 1 month ago

            My last mission was to persuade people to ditch Ferguson...I think people have finally got the message, especially after the rotation of this week.

            Getting people to ditch Suarez is my new crusade....join me, together we will defeat his orthadontally challenged views on race and aversion to hitting the target.

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            1. Gnu
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              14 years, 1 month ago

              Go for it, I will join you on this mission although it's fair to warn you that I'll generally be standing behind you, nodding!

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  29. McDog
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Is Danny Welbeck a threat to Hernandez' starting role or is Chico first choice now?

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    1. Demí
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      He's a threat, especially during the xmas period

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      1. McDog
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        14 years, 1 month ago

        Hmm, I may have to reconsider him then.

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    2. Messi & fabregas
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      yes he is and u are of the few that thought about it, it happened at the beginning of the season and will happen again once welbeck is fit. at the easy fixtures it would be welbeck and the more difficult once it would be hernanded, at least this is my experience with saf. thats why i am keeping rooney.

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      1. McDog
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        I think alot depends on Hernandez' form. If he's scoring regularly I can't see him getting much, if not then we could see alot more of Welbeck.

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        1. McDog
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          * Getting rested much

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          1. JK - Cønt ⭐
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 1 month ago

            think Hernandez will start more than Welbeck (esp once CL shuts down) but likely to get subbed off for him a lot as well, but Hernandez more likely to grab a goal, he should have had a hat-trick yesterday

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  30. Dan
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    A nice 36 points this week, a joke.

    Rangel coming off cost me 4 points, if it wasn't for Adebayor I would have a joke of a score.

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