Dugout Discussion
27 November 2011 2378 comments
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While the footballing community rightly reels from the frankly unfathomable and tragic news of Gary Speed’s passing, the Dugout Discussion opens in more solemn tones in shock at this news…

Our first of two fixtures today is in Wales where, rather perversely now, Speed had been seeming to build a bright future for football in his home country. Whether many of the Welsh players (on both sides) are in the right mind is hard to tell but the fixture of Swansea vs Aston Villa will go ahead as planned. Teams in full are…

Swansea XI: Vorm; Rangel, Monk, Williams, Taylor; Britton, Allen, Gower, Dyer, Sinclair; Graham

Villa XI: Given; Hutton, Collins, Dunne, Warnock; Herd, Delph; N’Zogbia, Heskey, Agbonlahor; Bent.

The Premier League weekend will then finish with the big fixture of the weekend as Kenny Dalglish’s Moneyball squad come up against the Nouveau riches of Manchester City.

RIP Gary Speed.

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  1. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    VDV to Bale done 😛

    BRING ON BAINESSS!

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    1. Snooze ya lose
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      I did the same yesterday! Given to Ruddy to facilitate Lita to Ba in next 2 weeks

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  2. Nutella
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    Who will get more BPS

    Me - Hernandez, Moses, Vorm

    Him - Sturridge, Rooney Bale

    He is currently 1 point ahead of me

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    1. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
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      3, 0, 0
      1, 1, 2

      Soz man 😛

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    2. Declan
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      You - 3
      Him - 3

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    3. charliec1903
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      1,2,2
      1,1,1

      Could clinch it .

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  3. Jukesy
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    57 (-4) with a likely 8 bonus points to come.

    That will be my highest score of the season.

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    1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      you kid, surely??

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      1. Jukesy
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        14 years, 1 month ago

        Unfortunately not, I'm gonna convince myself my season starts here. Good choice in name too

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  4. brianyboy 42
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    On 51 with Bp's to come. Sat AM had to choose between Mata and Studge or Lamps and Morison for Ohara and Rooney. Went for the latter, just a touch gutted to put it mildly, thats life!

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    1. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
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      60 with BPs, hoping for Mata 3, Sturridge 1, Silva 1, Kompany 3, Adebayor 3 - 11 would be nice!

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      1. Declan
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        67 without BP's, hoping Mata 3, Hernandez(C) 6, Silva 1, Kompany 3, Adebayor 3 - 16 would be very nice!

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        1. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
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          Niceee

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      2. brianyboy 42
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        14 years, 1 month ago

        Nice, who was your captain?

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        1. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
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          RVP ...

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          1. brianyboy 42
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            Isn't just the bomb when your other players come to the party!

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            1. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
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              Yeah, shame he didn't or I could almost be looking at triple figures!

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  5. Scroobius Mac
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    Hmm jump off the Rolls Royston and onto O'Hara?
    I suggested him to JamsieP last night and have now convinced myself that he could be a tidy differential. Will he go back to playing in the hole where he's scored well so far?

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    1. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      Noooooooooooo 🙁

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      1. Darth
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        I'm contemplating Suarez to Adebayor and I already have bale and VDV.

        Would someone like to try and persuade me out of it?

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        1. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
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          Naaa

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    2. Jukesy
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      But Everton have STO, NOR, SWA in their next 4 matches. and the Stoke match is after europe.

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      1. Scroobius Mac
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        14 years, 1 month ago

        Oh didn't realise Stoke were playing in Europe this week. Okay I'll hold tight.

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        1. Jukesy
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          14 years, 1 month ago

          I'd check that actually, but I think it rings a bell.

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    3. Cruicky
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      Depends.

      Doyle was injured yesterday so maybe 451.

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    4. Kuqi Monster
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      I'd keep drenthe

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  6. Tommytour
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    Planning Mata > Bale despite of his score this week, worth keeping hold? Not a fan of his fixtures!

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    1. Declan
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      Tempted still to do Mata to Young.

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    2. Jukesy
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      Could work to be honest, depends if Chelsea can get back into form though, definitely worth keeping with Drogba in the middle and the whole team playing well.

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    3. Mílanista
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      After next week I'm thinking Mata to Ben Arfa and Bendy to Rooney.

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      1. Tommytour
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        14 years, 1 month ago

        My plan is Mata > Bale then Aguero > Rooney

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  7. Lrf
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    1 point ahead in the ppc.

    Me:
    Enrique, McAuley, Brunt, Ramasey Dyer, Adebayor and Rooney

    Him:
    N.Taylor, Simpson, Ward, Walters. Pilkington, Suarez and Sturridge

    Think I got this?

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    1. Cyril Figgis
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      Should do. Ade will certainly get 3 BPs, and I can't see any of his getting many.

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    2. Yossi
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      Yep

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    3. Lrf
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      Cheers, Ade saving my a**.

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  8. Drip Doctor
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    Arshavin with Nani at the Tennis. Lol.

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  9. Bsal
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    RMT
    for gw 14

    given (al habsi)
    p jones richards enrique (rtaylor brown)
    bale silva walcott walters (pilkington)
    ba adebayor rvp(C)

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    1. Cyril Figgis
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      Given? Why?! I'd be playing Al-Habsi over him..

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      1. Bsal
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        14 years, 1 month ago

        wigan play against arsenal lots of goals there hence given...not a lot to choose both r terrible with regards to form n fixtures

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    2. Lrf
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      Like it alot. Hoping that Jones is back in the starting lineup. Not a big fan of Given tho.

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  10. JapBen
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    If I make no transfers my team lineup next GW will be:
    Vorm
    Enrique, Richards, Brown
    VDV(VC), Silva, Drenthe, Walters
    RVP(C), Sturridge, Adebayor
    Subs: Ruddy, Sinclair, S.Taylor, Wilkinson

    I am considering the following (I have 3.9M in the bank):
    1. Save my transfer
    2. Sturridge to Ba
    3. Wilkinson to Baines, Jagielka, Johnson, Vermaelen, Jones or Rangel/Naylor
    4. Drenthe to Bale
    5? (any better transfers I should make)

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    1. Gregor
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      Wilkinson to Baines sounds tremendous.

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      1. JapBen
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        14 years, 1 month ago

        It would leave me with only 0.1M in the bank though, I guess I could do S.Taylor to Simpson later to have enough money to upgrade other players eg Sturridge to Ba

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    2. Jukesy
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      Defence is a bit too expensive to get Baines in, possibly Jagielka, or Hibbert. Drenthe looks good for a few GWs, fixture wise. I'd ship Sinclair, but not sure for who, Nani is setting the world alight, Young?

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      1. JapBen
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        14 years, 1 month ago

        Jagielka is decent but Baines is more like a midfielder getting crosses into the box, taking penalties etc. It isn't like getting a defender, it's more like getting an additional player in midfield

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    3. Cruicky
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      Wilkinson to Baines and bench Brown.

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  11. Back on the horse
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    got it. 2 frees:

    Nani + Warnock -> Bale + Richards

    Warnocks fixtures are horrible, richards arent great but i think hes a long-term pick.

    Nani is underperforming for a while, and Bale frees up some cash

    Any reasons not too? have a few 100k spare so dont need to do it right now, but may as well

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  12. zyad947
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    How the hell did Rooney get assist points?

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    1. applebonkers
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      thanks to the new very generous assist rule. deflections inside the area basically mean nothing

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    2. Jukesy
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      Last United player to touch the ball before Hernandez got a touch.

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  13. applebonkers
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    agger alert!
    duels 7 out of 7, aerial duels 2 out of 2, tackles 4 out 4.

    joins jagielka, angel rangel and hangeland as perfect scorers in this respect. as he did it v the best attack in the league let's just agree that he wins. cool

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    1. Messi & fabregas
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      where do u see all this info mate? link please?

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      1. applebonkers
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        i do 1 and a half hour's work a year and pay for it

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    2. Stat virgin
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      We could take on Barca with Agger and Lucas in the team

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      1. applebonkers
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        did you hear in commentary about lucas getting that north west award? pretty impressive considering the other sides in the north west too

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        1. Stat virgin
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          Nope, just googled it though, still loads of Liverpool fans who don't rate him though apparently. Feel so bad for how much hatred he got during his first few years here

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    3. brianyboy 42
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      Goals conceded 1 out of 1 = 2 pts!

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  14. Darth
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    I’m contemplating Suarez to Adebayor and I already have bale and VDV.

    Would someone like to try and persuade me out of it?

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    1. brianyboy 42
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      I was hoping Suarez did not score today, I predict big points for him in the next few weeks. Bringing him in next GW.

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      1. Darth
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        14 years, 1 month ago

        It's just that my main rival in my mini league has Adebayor and I'm getting murdered not having him. I might give him one more week, as I it would be for a 4 point hit if I got him in anyway. Ramsey continues to frustrate and walters looks more and more tempting..

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    2. Back on the horse
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      Spurs are going to win the World Cup. go for it!

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  15. Menly
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    Sturridge > Adebayor now
    then
    Helguson > Ba after next week

    Sound ok?
    Thinking that i want to keep Helguson for the West Brom game, and Sturridge has some tough fixures so he'll be first to go...

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    1. Cruicky
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      Yep.

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    2. Screaming Midget
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      Sturridge out? Nah

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      1. Menly
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        14 years, 1 month ago

        Not even for Adebayor?

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  16. Bsal
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    wat will be the average score this tym around ... guesses?

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    1. Cruicky
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      Yesterday - 22
      Today - 31

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    2. 4vets
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      4 pts above mine 🙁

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    3. Forest4Life
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      31

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    4. VarunK
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      36

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    5. Screaming Midget
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      Mid 30s

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    6. Declan
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      37

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  17. Cruicky
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    Team next week:
    Howard
    Walker, Kompany, Brown
    Brunt, Formica, Drenthe, Bale(c), Silva(vc)
    RVP, Rooney.

    Bench:
    Vorm, Bendtner, Naylor, Tierney.

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  18. Animals & Scandals
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone keeping Eagles? Can’t see him doing anything vs Spurs in GW14.

    I want to get rid for someone else, but I can see little of noticeable quality under Walters (6.5).

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    1. Screaming Midget
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      Look at their games from GW15.

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      1. Animals & Scandals
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        14 years, 1 month ago

        It looks good, but Bolton are shit.
        I guess I’ll keep him until at least one big point haul.

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  19. Back to Back Ballacks
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    Johnny Unitas around???,,or anyone with a DECENT knowledge of handicap betting on the NFL??

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    1. Jordan.
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      whats up back to back?

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      1. Back to Back Ballacks
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        14 years, 1 month ago

        raiders to lose 2nite??

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    2. Jordan.
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      ive bet on it for 20 years i will know the answer....

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      1. Back to Back Ballacks
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        14 years, 1 month ago

        saw them recently ,,they looked shit,,i reckon they will get beat by the bears,,,looking to throw another team in with them in a double.

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        1. Jordan.
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          sorry m8 thought you had a query , actually stopped betting on it about 4 years ago so dont know the strength of things now,but funnily enough im a raider fan so i think ill look in,spoilt it for me when they started doing level points betting ,only 1/2 a point either way but just wanted to win or lose, void bet after 4 hours is b/s , anyway gd luck with your punting ,for me there was no more exciting way of betting.....

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          1. Back to Back Ballacks
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            no worries mate,,cheers,,think i'll go Bears -3 for the win (Sorry!)

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  20. FF Dirtbag
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    Nani -> Young,
    A) Punt
    B) Sensible
    C) Wouldn't do.

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    1. Hotrod
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      C, wouldn't touch Young with a 50 foot pole

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  21. exammy
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    Team linked have no idea what to do with team 6.2m in bank
    Any of Eagles Moses or Sinclair to Nani or Bale?
    Wilkinson to Baines?
    Given to De Gea??

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  22. div
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    Whats the thoughts on getting rid of Augero, I have RVP and Adebayor. Maybe for Hernandez or Ba.

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      wait till after Norwich then get Ba in, that's what I'm doing. My main (ultra-competetive) rival has closed to 4 points on me after my shocker of a week, but I didn't make any transfers this week, don't plan on any for next week, (yes I know I'll still only have 2, but I have no money and can't see any transfers that will benefit me if I'm taking Aguero out next week), so may take a 4 point hit next week.

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  23. takemehome
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    danny graham could b out for a bit, need another cheep forward, iv 5.9 in the bank
    who should i go for
    i was thinking shane long

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    1. RegentParkRovers
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      Just look at his next three fixtures... thats all the convincing you should need!

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      1. takemehome
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        14 years, 1 month ago

        spot on dude

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    2. applebonkers
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      he was on crutches at the final whistle, also when the physio asked him to flex his ankle he then immediately signalled he had to come off. not a good sign at all. could be a big loss for them

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  24. Dynamic
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    My Team:
    Vorm-Krul
    Shawcross-Brown-Jose Enrique-Kompany-P.Jones
    Silva – Bale – Walters – B.Johnson – Dyer
    RVP – Adebayor – Aguero

    Which of these transfers do you think are the best to do?

    A) Shawcross -> Jagielka (0.5m left) & then Aguero -> Ba next week. So i get Aguero for Norwich at home. (5.1m left)
    B) Shawcross -> Baines, P.Jones -> Simpson (4pt hit) (0m left)
    C) Shawcross -> Baines, Aguero -> Ba (4pt hit) (2.6m left)

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  25. Mull
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    Thoughts on my team for next week

    Howard
    Santos, Jones, McAuley
    Silva, VDV, Drenthe, Sessengon
    RVP, Hernandez, Ba

    Subs: Vorm, Pilkington, Simpson, Wilkinson.

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    1. Cruicky
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      Just noticed that your whole defence are away from home except Wiko.

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  26. Hybrid.power
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    Can't believe I'm satisfied with 45 points. What a difference this season is compared to last. Hopefully the baps are good to me!

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  27. Menly
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    Yesterday most of my big hitters played, and easy games they were too.
    16 points.
    Today was my swans and my city players in a tough game.
    26 points.

    Just shows how unpredictable this game is....
    Which is fun!

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  28. Portsmouth Bubblejet
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    Average points this week pre-bonus = 37

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  29. Moves Like Agger
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    If money was no object what midfielder and striker would you buy? (Excluding Silva and RVP)

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    1. Mull
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      VDV and Hernandez.

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    2. brianyboy 42
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      Right now Suarez and Ben Arfa.

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  30. RoysCallerAnne
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    I did Rooney to Adebayor last night so I have 3.2m to spend (team linked). I'm thinking ;

    Wilko to Baines (but would be doubled up with Howard)
    Wilko to Enrique
    Wilko to Kompany or Richards

    Any of these would leave me very heavily invested in defence (Howard/Vorm/Jones/BAE/Brown/McAuley/Wilko)

    OR.....Bendtner to Suarez for Liverpools good run? (possible ban though)
    Bendtner to Ba.

    Or save aTF?..............Jesus sorry what a boring post

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    1. Mull
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      RCA can you do Bendtner to Hernandez.

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      1. RoysCallerAnne
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        No, half a mill short Mulll....I think I need a good 5 days to calm down after my first red arrow in 9 weeks and my worst week of the season!

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      2. RoysCallerAnne
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        14 years, 1 month ago

        You've taken a 4pt hit what u do?

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