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The first Gameweek deadline of the season is now just hours away and our community writers have been busy sharing their thoughts on the urgent issues to consider, such as where to find value and whether to trust players from promoted sides.

For our Hot Topic posters, this week has been a final chance to collect the raft of data from pre-season and help address concerns such as the best defenders to draft in and whether Paul Pogba will be capable of finding the net in 2017/18.

Southampton’s backline comes under scrutiny in our Members’ tables round-up and finally, there’s a reminder to sign up to a new team-based community competition.

The Community Articles

Hutch_James has been canvassing the opinion of thousands of football fans on where Fantasy managers should be investing their 100m Fantasy Premier League budget. According to his analysis, Manchester City looks the sure-fire place to find goal scorers in Gameweek 1.

Investing in the likes of Kevin De Bruyne and Gabriel Jesus is costly though, which is why Red Arrows’ insight into how to get the biggest bang for your buck will come in handy.

Those looking at Spurs’ pricey assets are advised to read FPL Poker Players analysis of which Spurs players are likely to suffer most when they play at Wembley – the North Londoners’ temporary home this summer.

Similar buyer beware warnings are the theme of Firetogs article on players from promoted sides Huddersfield, Brighton and Newcastle.

There are no such fears of failure surrounding Southampton, who embark on a stellar run of games that stretches well into autumn. FPL Chief dropped by to cast his eye over a trio of Saints to consider as they kick off the season at St Mary’s with a visit from Swansea City.

Elsewhere, Milvus has submitted his latest analysis of the winners and losers in the pre-season FPL transfer market, while Cisco Kid served up four top tips on making Fantasy Draft leagues fun.

Finally, congratulations to Prokoptas ,who has scooped the accolade of Community Writer of the Month for July and a £20 Amazon voucher after our latest vote, for his examination of the Plexiglas Principle and how it can be used to predict an upturn in fortunes for last year’s poor performing teams.

His talents have also been acknowledged by us and this week we saw the publication of his analysis of Arsenal’s Community Shield performance, which is the first of many articles we have asked him to write for the site’s main pages this season.

Don’t forget, if you’ve got some analysis, scout reports or features brewing, be sure to visit our community section to submit your article.

The Hottest Topics

Gameweek 1 is a minefield. It is the set of fixtures which Fantasy managers have the most time to prepare for, but we also have the least knowledge to hand, with no recent competitive Premier League form to review.

Nevertheless, analysis of pre-season performances can be a useful guide and already many of the community have used this to alter their opinion about certain players and teams, according to Sleep Talk’s Hot Topic on the summer schedule.

A prime example is a drop in interest for Paul Pogba, who some are now doubting will ever become the rampaging midfield dynamo he has threatened to be at times. Certainly, the inclusion of Nemanja Matic in a defensive midfield role for Manchester United has done little to unleash the Frenchman on opposition defences, says theBoose’s analysis of the Red Devil’s 2-1 Super Cup loss to Real Madrid.

There were also questions raised in our discussion on last Sunday’s Community Shield on whether Arsenal striker Alexandre Lacazette will hit the ground running following his lacklustre attacking display.

At least both Pogba and Lacazette are set to start, even if they may not get on the scoresheet, according to Couti and the Below5th’s incredible round-up of minutes played over pre-season.

There was further chat about pre-season from Bowstring the Carp, who has put together his own opus, having collected all the key manager quotes over the summer, and Lyonaais, who has been getting his abacus out to compile a FFScout template team from mentions in rate my team posts.

In addition, Evs dropped by to offer a timely reminder that for every success story from pre-season, like Swansea’s goal scoring midfielder Michu, there is also Wigan’s Mario Boselli, who excelled in friendlies over the summer of 2010 but did not find the net in the Premier League until late October that year.

Marcos Alonso has scored over Chelsea’s summer schedule, but he hardly needed that strike against Bayern Munich in July to prove his Fantasy credentials.

But why, Granville wonders, are so many shunning him and instead recruiting his midfield team mate Willian, who is also priced at 7.0 but gets less clean sheet points. Trogg’s Hot Topic on defence spend certainly indicates Alonso is not a popular pick among the community.

As Enzo the Baker points out, even if premium defenders like Alonso let down their suitors, at least their hefty price tags can be put to good use by being sacrificed to divert cash into emerging midfield assets.

Among cheaper defenders that could prove worthwhile replacements for underperforming premium defenders is Southampton’s Jack Stephens, who has the edge over his team-mate Maya Yoshida, according to responses to Keno’s discussion on the Saints backline.

Scott Dann, Crystal Palace’s 5.0 priced central defender who has scored in his last six Premier League campaigns, is another to consider, suggests Whazza.

There is clearly a wealth of options in defence this year, but the same cannot really be said of third striker options.

Our forward thinking Hot Topic laments the lack of worthwhile options  in the 6.0 to 8.0 price bracket, although Ludo points out that Bournemouth’s Josh King (7.5) may just be unfairly overlooked since his reclassification from midfielder to striker.

Just above that price bracket sits Jamie Vardy (8.5) of Leicester, who was a controversial ‘Fantasy Island Risk’ Scoutcast pick by Disable for Gameweek 1. His co-hosts’ displeasure at this former heavy hitter being classed as a risk prompted this discussion on how we should better define a risk on future episodes.

There are certainly lots of options for risk takers among cheap midfielders, says Andy85wsm, including Swansea midfielder Tom Carroll, who has excelled in pre-season and Lilmessipran believes Fantasy managers are underestimating due to his lowly 4.5 price tag.

The amount of time and mental energy being used up by the community in the search of the perfect Gameweek 1 team can be frustrating sight for their friends and families. But as Tamagotchi’s discussion on how Fantasy management is viewed by the outside world, most loved ones are understanding of our obsession.

That is perhaps until the time reaches today’s 6:45pm deadline and the panic levels increase. Our community was on hand with some key advice to tackle such last minute nerves and ensure all the summer’s careful planning is not wasted.

To view all our discussions please visit our Hot Topics page.

The Members’ Tables

For those struggling to select the best Southampton defender, I’ve constructed this table looking at statistics such as baseline bonus and CBI, and FPL Virgin has also being delving into the Saints rearguard’s key figures.

If you’re a member and are yet to get to grips with the custom statistics tables, you can view this movie for an explanation of how they work. Also, remember to tag them so that people can find the tables with ease.

The Community Tournaments

Those running the Community Watch tournament have asked us to remind you that the deadline for their team-based tournament is approaching. Those wanting to take part as a manager have until August 14 to put their name forward. The deadline for taking part as a player is August 21.

If you are running a community tournament and would like the latest scores included in future Community Round-ups, please email us a summary of the current leaders and a link to your league, spreadsheet or head to head competition, at jonty@fantasyfootballscout.co.uk.

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  1. Rinseboy
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Quick vote pls guys

    A - JWP and Bertrand or
    B - Ritchie and Stephens?

    Thanks

    1. Lyonnais
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      A

    2. Invincibles
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      A definitely

    3. Reuser
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      B - don't really see the value in paying 0.5 extra for a Soton defender's "attacking" value due to the teams overall low-scoring nature.

  2. Lyonnais
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Stones or Bailly?

    1. Invincibles
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Eric

    2. kalmoffit
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Stones

  3. Cash'nBurn
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Currently have :-

    A) Gabbiadini - Salah - Daniels

    now considering...

    B) Firmino - Redmond - Kolasinac

    Any input would be appreciated...

    1. Benster
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      A short term, B long term

  4. Bubz
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    I still have a niggling doubt that Cedric won't start

    1. MGD
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Same, swapped him out 🙁

    2. Mini Mane Mo
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Go for either of the central defenders

      1. Bubz
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        I'm doubling up. Defo will have Stephens but I heard Yoshi is slightly injured

    3. Reuser
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Am much more comfortable with Stephens.

      Was a bonus point magnet towards the end of last season.

      I know Cedric's crossing stats are impressive, but somehow they have never really translated into fpl points.

      1. Bubz
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        Yeah I have Stephens in but want another

        1. Cok3y5murf
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 5 months ago

          Go for Forster or Bertrand.

        2. Reuser
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 5 months ago

          Oh - a double-up?

          Personally, I would put the money on someone like Ake instead for the next couple of matches. Can always switch to Cedric after then......

    4. Over Midwicket
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Doing my head in. Really don't want Yoshi or Stephens

      1. Galza
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        Stick Forster in and worry no more..... 😉

    5. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      It's what listening to people on here does to you . If something is repeated over and over again you forget the person saying it has no evidence it is going to happen and start believing it .

      1. Bubz
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        From experience though, a player that only played 1 preseason game vs a player that played 4+ of the preseason games tends not to start

        1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
          • 15 Years
          8 years, 5 months ago

          According to a local paper I find reliable he returned from preseason training in good shape and they expect him to start .

          1. Bubz
            • 12 Years
            8 years, 5 months ago

            Okay cheers!

        2. Benster
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 5 months ago

          Yeah I agree. The key thing for the first few GWs is to pick sure starters (Stephens) and then to move onto the players you really want (Cedric) when the opportunity arises....

          That's my plan anyways...

          1. Bubz
            • 12 Years
            8 years, 5 months ago

            Problem is that I want 2 Sot defs...

  5. Weasel51
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Quick question guys, Need a hand:

    A) Walker, Bertrand, Tomkins
    Walcott, Redmond, Willian, De Bruyne
    Gabbi, Lukaku(c), Kane

    B) Danilo, Bertrand, Tomkins
    Sane, Mane, Redmond, Willian, Alli
    Jesus, Lukaku

    1. Weasel51
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Anyone?

    2. Invincibles
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      A with danilo over walker, use 1m elsewhere, get ddg?

      1. Weasel51
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        Is Danilo likely to keep his place once Mendy is back?

        1. Rash
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 5 months ago

          No stones might be safer long term

    3. Rash
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Tomkins sané and Walcott risks

  6. FPL Maldini
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Right guys, this Fraser vs JWP dilemma I am seeing like this

    - Saints just bought Lemina meaning more mids to clog up competition + 1 point Fraser

    -Stanislas has been confirmed out 1 month + 1 point Fraser

    - West Brom are poorer than Swansea IMO + 1 point Fraser

    - JWP is on set pieces + 1 point JWP

    - JWP stats look better than Fraser using last season + 1 point JWP

    Fraser 3 - 2 JWP

    Am I losing the plot or is there logic here?

    1. Over Midwicket
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Both gold options

    2. Gooner Kebab
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Saints have better fixtures to counter your 3rd point. So it's 3-2 to JWP according to your logic.

      1. FPL Maldini
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        True. If you are looking long term I agree but I'm looking to transfer one out for Gross potentially

    3. Tommyg
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Great reasoning. I had this dilemma and so avoided it all together and found the extra for Ritchie.

      1. FPL Maldini
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        Yeah I have Ritchie already- think he could be great this year

    4. Invincibles
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      I like both, go fraser

    5. Reuser
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Like both options for the price - but can see Fraser doing some serious damage against a sluggish WBA defence.

      Also, Fraser is perfectly capable of being a high-impact sub off the bench, so even if he is rotated, he can still bring in the points.

      Think we need to moderate our expectations for a 5.5 midfielder - but 3 goals and 9 assists last season is a decent tally - and he is rapidly improving too (I am an Ipswich fan - he spent a season on loan with us a couple of years ago and was tremendous).

      1. FPL Maldini
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        Thanks for your analysis . Think I'm going with Fraser myself for now

  7. Prøfeßör …
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Davies or Danilo?

    Thanks,

    1. dhamphiir
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Davies

    2. NotsoSpursy
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      danilo not banked for the season
      davies not a good pick imo

    3. Tommyg
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Crystal ball needed.

  8. bring_on _the_fantasy
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Down to this really...which is better....

    A) Kane & KDB

    Or

    B) Jesus & Alli and 2.5M to strengthen rest of team?

    1. Darth_Newdar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      B

    2. Invincibles
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      A

    3. TokyoRed 東京赤
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      B for me but a tough choice

  9. Darth_Newdar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Last minute tinkering here... do you prefer:

    A) Zaha & Firmino

    B) Salah & Gabbiadini

    1. NotsoSpursy
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      a all day

    2. GoRedz
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      A all day

    3. Weasel51
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      A

    4. Darth_Newdar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Thanks!

  10. NotsoSpursy
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Calling Saints fans

    Will Cedric start??

    1. Darth_Newdar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Nobody knows. He only played one game in pre-season, so slight doubt.

    2. Respect My Authoritah
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Think so. Pied wasn't even in the squad

  11. fedolefan
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    So as it stands, Bertrand is the only nailed Southampton defender for say each of the first three weeks?

    1. @fpl_phenom
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Yoshida and Stevens will play. Cedric a slight doubt

    2. Make United Great Again
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Yes

  12. You've got red on you.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Last two decisions. Will go to votes.

    1) Willian or Zaha

    2) Pogba or Mkhit

    Thanks!

    1. Darth_Newdar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Zaha and Mkhit for me

    2. GoRedz
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Zaha
      Miki

    3. Tommyg
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Zaha as central to all they do.

      Mkhit as more attacking.

    4. Invincibles
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Zaha miki

    5. Benster
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Zaha and Mkhi

    6. You've got red on you.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Thanks! Seems pretty clear cut

  13. Jafooli
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    PVA - Davies - Daniels - Cedric - Hunemeier

    Okay def?

    1. Make United Great Again
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      I mean it's alright haha

    2. La Roja
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Perfect

    3. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      The mods are holding a trial on whether to ban you or not ?

  14. Master Kane
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Please could you RMT:
    de Gea (Elliot)
    Dawson Jones Yoshida (Naughton, Suttner)
    Pogba Salah De Bruyne(v) Redmond (Carroll)
    Jesus Rodriguez Lukaku(c)
    (0.5m itb)

    I fear not having Kane may hurt, but bringing him in will lose value elsewhere

  15. Team Cruel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    TEAM CRUEL Fantasy Football Scout Member10th Aug 2017 23:20
    GTG?

    Forster
    Valencia - Bertrand - Stephens - Ake
    KDB - Alli - Salah - Atsu
    Lukaku (C) - Jesus

    Elliot - TCarroll - Mee - McBurnie

    1. Gooner Kebab
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Ctrl c + v fail 🙂

      gtg mate, hopefully 3 soton works out for you.

  16. Make United Great Again
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Who is your 4.5 keeper? And do you expect much from them?

    1. You've got red on you.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      DDG

      I guess I'm expecting a hell of a lot at 1m more.

    2. Meltens
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Hart and next to nothing 🙂
      Not loving any of the options but can't seem to find the extra dosh.

      Will probably go for Pickford at 5.0 when their fixtures clear up.

  17. BucketHead
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Is Alonso worth it??
    Alonso with zaha or a4. 5def with mane????

    1. GoRedz
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      I would have Zaha if you need to play that 4.5

  18. La Roja
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    A) Willian Aguero
    B) Pedro Jesus

    1. Kevin Twine
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      B

  19. Blanka
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Iwobi or Richie? Short term.

  20. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    He wouldn't bench KDB would he?

    Would he?

    1. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Might start him as CB.

    2. You've got red on you.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Oh my god I feel sick

    3. GoRedz
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      sterling brace

  21. machickenz
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Select 3 of the bunch to help me decide please!
    a) Daniels
    b) Dawson
    c) Yoshida
    d) Stephens
    e) Dann
    f) Ake
    i) Holding

    1. Benster
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      I have B, D and E

    2. Exxtreme
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Stephens, Ake, Dawson

  22. IceNhower
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Last minute help please,

    Which frontline would you choose and why?

    Salah Knockaert Alli Mkhitaryan McArtur
    Lukaku Jesus Firminho

    Or

    KdB Knockaert Alli Ritchie McArtur
    Lukaku Kane King

    1. Benster
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      First one, but find a way to upgrade Salah to KDB and downgrade Knockaert

  23. Peptalkwithkun
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Hello frnds I am new here
    Pls rmt so I can grow in fpl
    Foster/Elliot
    Stephens Danilo Kosilinac TAA long
    Kdb Salah willian puncheon JWP
    Kane lukaku Gabbie
    Pls help with my team
    Thanks in advance

    1. Galza
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Nice team........
      Puncheon??

      1. Peptalkwithkun
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        Tried to get a differential bro

        1. Galza
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 5 months ago

          All for that... good luck mate.

          1. Peptalkwithkun
            • 8 Years
            8 years, 5 months ago

            Thanks bro

  24. FC nelo
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Now I think I have set my team. Have changed it about 100 times the last two days.

    Foster / Elliott
    B. Davies / Kolasinac / Bertrand / Daniels (Mariappa)
    Fabregas / KdB / Zaha (Carroll / Obiang)
    Kane / Lukaku / Firmino

    Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.

  25. @fpl_phenom
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Milivojevic looks a decent option guys. £5.0M On pens and free kicks which suggests he's actually nailed on regardless of who come back from injury...

    Better pick than Atsu or Matic I reckon

    Thoughts?

    1. Galza
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Out of the 5 mil picks, it's who I'd have if I had too.

    2. Kane Toads
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      I have Atsu
      . Thinking I'll change to Mili. I also have Zaha.

      1. @fpl_phenom
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        I don't have Zaha. For you maybe Matic? Atsu?

        Iv 2 Utd so don't want to "waste" a space on Matic as I might get Mhkitaryan if he plays well v West Ham.

        Decided I'm going Milivojevic

  26. Captain Vantastic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Ritchie is not nailed on?

  27. The_Colonel
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    If only every club would be so courteous to us FPL managers as Bournemouth! https://twitter.com/afcbournemouth/status/895925049395433472

    1. Reuser
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Coupled with Josh King announcing he was injured for gw38 last season on Instagram - they really are the best......

    2. Trovsmash
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      this is fantastic

  28. rjoc99
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    De Gea / Elliot
    Daniels, Walker , Bertrand / Rangel, Hunemier
    KDB, Mane, Alli, Ritchie / Loftus Cheek
    Mounie Lukaku (C), Firmino

    What you guys think of this?
    Weak bench but it worked for me last season any advice?!

    1. @fpl_phenom
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Carroll instead of loftus

      Walker to Kompany
      Bertrand to Yoshida
      Danielle to Kolasinac

      Thank me later

    • 10 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Shouldn't Evans' flag be removed now?

  29. Visionaries
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Going in without Liverpool..
    The upcoming CL games and a City double up almost justifys it.

    DDG
    Daniels, Van Aanholt, Bertrand
    Zaha, KDB, Atsu, JWP
    Lukaku, Kane, Jesus

    Shall I downgrade DDG and get Milner in?

    1. @fpl_phenom
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      No