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We’ve been here before. Seven days ago we were waxing lyrical about the efforts of Papiss Cisse and Hatem Ben Arfa – a week later, we’re at it again having seen both combine to unravel a hapless Liverpool.

Cisse’s brace took him to seven in as many games, while at the Lane, Emmanuel Adebayor confirmed himself as a rival for a slot in our squads, as he returned to goalscoring form.

Our members can now drown in the numbers from today’s games and read on for our guide to the key statistics on show in the Gameweek thus far, along with our take on the destination of the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) bonus points.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. 4vets
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 10 months ago

    Had a lovely day, out and about with the family this morning, watched the Totty game and enjoyed Ade's brace whilst "cooking" the roast pork with freinds round. Don't give a toss about fpl right now and am just off to watch a movie with the family.

    Chillin' 🙂

    PS. was there something about a Ba assist? Do I care? 🙂

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    1. Corrigan
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      Wish I didn't, wish I wasn't bothered, wish I wasn't obsessed...

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      1. udit
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 10 months ago

        Exactly. 🙁

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    2. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      i've had a fookin' shit day and have had it with football

      it's just being ruined by w*nkers like carroll and perch diving and cheating

      football needs to take a long hard look at itself

      as do liverpool

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      1. udit
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 10 months ago

        Bad luck about Europa 🙁

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      2. Locarno
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 10 months ago

        Things could be worse, fella. You could be a Liverpool fan...

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        1. SPorting
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 10 months ago

          errrrrrrrrm........

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        2. FPL Daniel
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 10 months ago

          😆 Liv fan 😆

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          1. Locarno
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 10 months ago

            You two... I bloody know he is.

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      3. CABAYE4
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 10 months ago

        This probs won't help your anger with football but every single player in the PL would have gone down like Perch did. Leave Perchy alone!

        PS. Be angry at the diving scum Carroll as much as you like!

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  2. Mindless Freak
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 10 months ago

    Which players are people looking to bring in for gameweek 36. If you could list a few that would be nice 😛 . Also would Sessgnon in for Fergurson and and Bendtner in for Suarez be good gameweek 34 moves. That will mean i can have 9 players playing 😛 – Not sure about Baines yet.

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  3. RASPUTIN - the foking bom t…
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 10 months ago

    will BHA 2 asists satand?

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    1. Acquafresca
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      no, ba supposed to get 1

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  4. Pinoche
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 10 months ago

    Really dissappointed with Suarez .
    Still sticking with him though :/

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    1. RASPUTIN - the foking bom t…
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      it brings me joy to see lpool be so shiiit - gotta love kk for being a great manager ( 15 yrs ago)

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    2. Messi & fabregas
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      same here i am really hesitant to replace him (home vs aston villa ) with adebayor (away to spurs)
      or shall we?

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      1. Pinoche
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 10 months ago

        No , lets stick with him for this week and then after that I'll do Suarez to Ba in Gw 33 .

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  5. Nopli
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 10 months ago

    GW 34 TEAM
    Vorm
    Evans, Lescott Caulker
    Walcott, Valencia, Sigurdsson
    Rvp Bendy

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  6. royals forever
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 10 months ago

    Hi Guys

    What do yo think are the chances of the rearranged Everton V Stoke being in GW35

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      Low.

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      1. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 10 months ago

        U mean deep low ? 😀

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  7. Kirby
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 10 months ago

    GW32 thoughts guys? 🙂

    Begovic
    Skrtel Caulker Evans
    Siggy Valencia Bale Dempsey
    Adebayor Rooney RVP

    Bench: Vorm, McClean, Simpson, Senderos

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      Bench Skrtel,

      Pool defence has been awful recently, no Reina now as well. Play Simpson, away or not.

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      1. Kirby
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 10 months ago

        Ah yeah, thought that when watching match actually, cheers!

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    2. Nopli
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      Demps to Mata . IMO

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      1. Kirby
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 10 months ago

        Would be for a hit though, would do otherwise.

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  8. The Bandit
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 10 months ago

    Have I missed something re the Stoke v Everton game? Has it not been rescheduled yet? 😕

    Looking ahead to wk 36 would you rather have Verm or Cole/Baines for a hit (assumes Baines also has a dgw) ?

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    1. COMH
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      People are talking as if it will be in GW36. Most likely it will be but nothing confirmed yet.

      I have Baines so I would say him. A.Hole otherwise though.

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      1. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 10 months ago

        Thanks, if you had Verm would you take a hit for Baines though?

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  9. COMH
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 10 months ago

    Chuffed with my midfield this week

    Dempsey 10
    Siggy 7
    Bale 5
    Walcott 7
    Valencia ?

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      I had all of those bar Tony

      Did I not tell you Ade would score today?

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      1. COMH
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 10 months ago

        You did say that. Means me or 1966 is out depending on how our tie finishes.

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        1. udit
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 10 months ago

          YOu win, 1966 is out 🙁 Sad really, considering he's topped the group since ages.

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          1. COMH
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 10 months ago

            Hooray for me 🙂

            Bit sad he is out though. Wanted us both through to the knockouts.

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    2. kaz 96
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      3, according to the sequence

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      1. SC not pearls before swine
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 10 months ago

        10 you mean? The sequence is clearly going back up!

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        1. COMH
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 10 months ago

          You are so right. What a pessimist I am being.

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      2. COMH
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 10 months ago

        0 according to the sequence but forget all that

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    3. TorresMagic™
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      Same midfield. Sorta regretting getting Walcott this week though as my 3rd striker is weak. 🙁

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      1. COMH
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 10 months ago

        Why would you regret Theo on 7 and not Bale on 5 if any??

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        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          • 16 Years
          13 years, 10 months ago

          I bought Walcott this week. Could have just sold Ba for Cisse for a better result.

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    4. Kirby
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      Valencia for 5 I think.

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  10. SC not pearls before swine
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 10 months ago

    So my plan was to sell Dempsey before gameweek 34 and maybe wildcard him back in for the double gameweek. So should I do that or just cut my losses, sell Silva and hang on to Dempsey at a discount and play with 10 in gameweek 34?

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    1. tw
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      i'd probably do the second

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  11. Back on the horse
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 10 months ago

    Good pic

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    1. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      yes

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      1. Back on the horse
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 10 months ago

        It would be interesting to see the costs of running this site vs the income. I wonder what the long-term strategy is and what is possible

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  12. RASPUTIN - the foking bom t…
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 10 months ago

    who reckons barfas 2 assists will stand\/

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    1. RASPUTIN - the foking bom t…
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      i dont know mate - hope some1 else can tell you if BHA will get 2 assists - ciz i am clueess

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    2. halnone
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      Rooney will get one I think

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      1. OPTA FPL
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 10 months ago

        lol

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    3. Pinoche
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      Me !

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  13. Lemon Ninja
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 10 months ago

    Sinclair > Siggy
    Pog > Cisse

    4 point hit. What you think?

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  14. Parm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 10 months ago

    A bit premature but i'm liking the way my DGW team is shaping up..........

    Friedel(BLA,bol)
    A.Cole(QPR,NEW) • Enrique(nor,FUL) • Simpson(wig,che) • Caulker(WOL)
    Bale(BLA,bol) • VDV(BLA,bol) • Miyaichi(sun,TOT) • Sigurdsson(WOL)
    RVP(sto) • Jelavic(FUL,sto)

    Subs Sorenson(ARS,EVE) • Evans(mc) • Valencia(mc) • Rooney(mc)

    Bank: £0.7m

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    1. RASPUTIN - the foking bom t…
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      looks goood but u should be worried if BHAs 2 assists will stand 🙂

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      1. Parm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 10 months ago

        Yeah, um, about that.

        I benched him last week and sold him before the WBA game, heavens forbid.

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    2. Davido989
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      Surely you will play Rooney over Rvp to Stoke away. Manchester derby will be flooded with goals.

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    3. SC not pearls before swine
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      Quite good, but I would probably play Rooney over Simpson, double gameweek aside.

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    4. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      am thinking of losing RvP for the season in 36

      Mingolet (BOL)

      Skrtel (nor, FUL) Baines (FUL, STO?) Terry (QPR, NEW)

      Bale, Vdv (BLA, bol) BARFA (wig/che)/Miyachi (sun/TOT) Siggy (WOL)

      Rooney (mci) Ade (Bla/Bol) Cisse (wig/che)

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    5. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      So overall I need to play Rooney, thanks very much guys 🙂

      PS, I'll shut up about the DGW for a while otherwise TM will get rather annoyed with my constant blabbering on 😆

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      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 16 Years
        13 years, 10 months ago

        🙄

        Do what you want....

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  15. JK - Cønt ⭐
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 10 months ago

    Anyone else with me on benching Skrtel and/or Enrique next week

    Pool defence has been awful in recent weeks, now Reina is out?

    Do we think Liverpool will appeal it?

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    1. RASPUTIN - the foking bom t…
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      i will benck skrtl and worry about barfa 2 assists if i were u

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      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 10 months ago

        I don't own Barfa

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    2. Davido989
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      Doni is a better keeper than Reina, I've been saying it for ages now.

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      1. udit
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 10 months ago

        Hello 🙂 Sorry about my comment in the morning, I was joking obviously

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    3. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      Currently playing Skrtel. My alternatives are Verm (MCI) or Shotton (likely not to start). Don't think they will appeal, think I read that Dalglish said he agreed with the sending off.

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      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 10 months ago

        mine are Verm and Santon

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        1. Mílanista
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 10 months ago

          So are you thinking of playing Verm? I'm tempted, he came very close to scoring twice at the Etihad earlier this season.

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          1. JK - Cønt ⭐
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 10 months ago

            I am

            City have been away all season, Arsenal will want to bounce back, Verm had a shocker yesterday and will want to make up for it. Plus if Aguero is out I don't think City have enough in them to get at Arsenal, especially with Silva's form

            My main thing right now is RvP's form, am seriously looking at selling him for Ade in DGW

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            1. Mílanista
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 10 months ago

              Selling RVP in GW36 isn't out of the question. I don't plan to but with only 3 gameweeks left it can't do too much damage if it backfires.

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              1. JK - Cønt ⭐
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 10 months ago

                I know he has Norwich away, but there a touch of the Silvas about RvP right now. He's been so overused by Arsenal that he just looks knackered. He's been without an injury for so long I'm not sure he's used to playing this many games.

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  16. Sarnab
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 10 months ago

    Ba > Bendtner tonight?? free

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      Still 1 game to go. Rooney might get injured.

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  17. takemehome
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 10 months ago

    Liverpool's performance today was the best april fools joke ever

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    1. Davido989
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      Haha

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  18. udit
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 10 months ago

    In my opinion, the second assist should go to ba(yes I'm a ba owner but have tried to observe it from an unbiased view), HBA is no where near touching the ball and almost immediately jumps to avoid the liv defenders tackle, it'll be absolutely ludicrous if it doesn't go to ba.

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    1. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      I have neither and I agree

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    2. Acquafresca
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      i agree.

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    3. Messi & fabregas
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      to me an assist should be an assist when the person who provides the assist is the last one to touch the ball, the way the rules are here it 's a joke, like ba and bale assists today and some many ohters throughout the season

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      1. udit
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 10 months ago

        Umm, I think ba was the last person to touch the ball

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        1. Gav
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 10 months ago

          The ball is defo deflected off either HBA or the defender. At first i thought HBA flicks it, but im not totally sure. One thing i am sure about is Ba's pass is deflected.

          I have neither player, but was watching it earlier.

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    4. Leaf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      Hard to see who but the ball definitely is touched by either pool def or Ben arfa

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      1. Acquafresca
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 10 months ago

        arfa jumps over the ball/pool defender

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      2. udit
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 10 months ago

        Why is the ball definitely touched by someone? I mean there wasn't any deviation/change of pace?

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        1. Gav
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 10 months ago

          there is. It defo is deflected by someone

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          1. udit
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 10 months ago

            Hmmm...

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  19. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 10 months ago

    I ripped up my 5 week plan for gw 34/35/36 and decided to Jump on the Papiss parade. He is just playing to damn good. The only problem is now I have to offload two Liverpool "defenders" for gw 34 ,while taking a 4 point hit to bring in a Bolton midfielder.
    I have found to my cost this season that defenders do not get you the big points, BAE the occasional aberration.

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      I have planned for Dave, Ade and the Pig in DGW) No more RvP for the last 3 weeks.

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  20. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 10 months ago

    Just a note to the scouts I would like to see a chart for the percentage of correct predictions for the bonus points. I am very sceptical about the success rate.

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    1. Locarno
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      Has AB posted his? They're usually a bit closer to the mark.

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  21. halnone
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 10 months ago

    1 point out of Cahill, Verm, and Kompany.

    Might be my worse defense score this season.

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    1. COMH
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      That is 1 expensive f*ck up

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  22. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    • 16 Years
    13 years, 10 months ago

    Krul or Vorm when they play eachother in gameweek 32?

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    1. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      homeboy

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    2. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      Vorm is at home so play him plus he will get lots of save points against the Newcastle attack...Papiss.

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    3. little_wizard123
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      I'm doubling up on Swansea defence and benching Krul and Simpson.

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  23. THE BAD
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 10 months ago

    How's everyone's score today? just to know the average...

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    1. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      87

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      1. OPTA FPL
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 10 months ago

        with 7 to play

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        1. Pinoche
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 10 months ago

          He is asking this gameweeks score not your overall points .

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          1. little_wizard123
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 10 months ago

            😆

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    2. Cruyff Turn
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      40 with the United trinity left

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    3. kaz 96
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      52 with 3 to play, but thats a lot above average

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    4. SPorting
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      49 (-4)

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    5. udit
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      43

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    6. Declan-
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      49 with 3 to play

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    7. Djerbil
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      43

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    8. Back on the horse
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      55, 2 to play, prob well above the average

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  24. Doctor X
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 10 months ago

    The new Miss India is dating my friend :O

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      Not for long...

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    2. Menly
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      Lucky bloke

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      1. Djerbil
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 10 months ago

        How Lucky?? only dating , not sleeping together

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    3. udit
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      Lucky bugger.

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    4. Pinoche
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      Hahah

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      1. Mílanista
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 10 months ago

        I recognise that link.

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      2. Declan-
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 10 months ago

        Thanks for that 1

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  26. JK - Cønt ⭐
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 10 months ago

    Would you rather have

    40 points with Rooney, Evans and Yak to play

    or

    25 points with the same 3 plus Valencia ❓

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    1. Kirby
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      First one, without a doubt.

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      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 10 months ago

        that is me, 2nd is my rival

        guy in 3rd is 80 points behind me with Evra and Rooney (c) to play

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    2. THE BAD
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      a

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    3. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      Obv the first option. Doubt Valencia will get >15 points tomorrow...

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    4. SPorting
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      A.

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    5. kaz 96
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      u mean 40 or 25 with valencia

      40

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    6. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      question is Valencia 15p isnt it? A

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    7. halnone
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      first one

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    8. Tommy J
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      Is that a serious question? Not sure I'd bet on Valencia getting 15 pts or more.............

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  27. Kirby
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 10 months ago

    Potential GW36 team:

    Vorm
    BAE Caulker Simpson
    Siggy Bale Mata McClean
    Rooney RVP Ade

    Hmm.

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  28. Silent Alarm
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 10 months ago

    Right so for gameweek 34 as a one week only to get me my full quota do i get Odemwingie or Bendtner or someone else?

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      for 34, Bendy has Wolves at home

      That is all.

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      1. Silent Alarm
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 10 months ago

        Oh yeah that is pretty conclusive. thanks

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  29. Menly
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 10 months ago

    So. 4Vets, Dan, Mull, Archie...

    What do we do? What the bloody hell is going on with Dalglish and Liverpool?

    People please give constructive answers not just silly jibes

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    1. Menly
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      Gervinho's Forehead as well

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    2. SPorting
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      KK has to go.

      i loved him as a player. top quality but he can't live on his former glories in this role. LIV need a Brendan Rodgers figure to shape that team.

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      1. Menly
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 10 months ago

        I agree. His team selections are disgusting, as are his transfers and I dread to think what training is like

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    3. THE BAD
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      Kenny

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    4. THE BAD
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      Hodgson>Kenny that's why

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    5. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      i cannot give a constructive answer right now

      i cannot see past the rage and depression

      they have dragged our good name through the f*cking mud this season

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      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 16 Years
        13 years, 10 months ago

        Carling Cup.

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        1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 10 months ago

          we haven't even been allowed to enjoy that though have we??

          before the dust had even settled on that win, the world was full of non-liverpool fans belittling the competition

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    6. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      Protests on the way for you Pool fans???

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      1. Menly
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 10 months ago

        I doubt it. He may get sacked after the FA cup game, for I fear the worst

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    7. Davido989
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      I've posted my views on the next page bro.

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    8. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      Dalglish is an 1980's manager with a 1980's mentality. He will only leave Liverpool if he does what Clough did in his last season with Forest.
      Plus he needs to find someone with an eye for players someone like Brendan Rodgers.

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      1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 10 months ago

        hillsborough ruined dalglish

        he was never the same after that and it has eaten away at him since and i think has a lot to do with his dislike of the media

        it doesn't surprise me, being witness to something like that and all the funerals he went to, it has to hurt a man and change them forever

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        1. Menly
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 10 months ago

          Thats a very good point

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        2. Lovely Jubbly Lions
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 10 months ago

          He done ok as Blackburn manager

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  30. JK - Cønt ⭐
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    • 14 Years
    13 years, 10 months ago

    well, not only am I out of the Europa

    Looks like I will finish bottom.

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