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Haller promising but must convince managers he is worth the cost

Fantasy Premier League managers may want to wait to see how Sébastien Haller (£7.5m) settles in at West Ham before flocking to sign him.

There is certainly promise about the striker but as a newcomer to the English game, he might take some time to adapt.

The Hammers broke their transfer record to sign him from Eintracht Frankfurt for a fee believed to be in the region of £45m.

Haller, 25, had been with Eintracht since 2017, where he played a starring role for Adi Hütter’s side as they finished seventh in the Bundesliga to qualify for Europa League football in the upcoming 2019/20 campaign.

The Frenchman, who has been capped 20 times by his country’s Under-21 side, arrives in East London amidst considerable anticipation with the Hammers’ fanbase eager to see a clinical, goalscoring forward make their mark in Manuel Pellegrini’s second season in charge.

After scoring 15 goals and registering nine assists in 29 league matches in his final season with Eintracht, Haller arrives in the Premier League with a fearsome reputation that has played a considerable part in the £45m fee that he has reportedly commanded.

Yet it is the 25-year-old’s price in FPL (£7.5m) that has got managers talking, as Haller’s credentials as a mid-priced forward come under considerable scrutiny despite his impressive final season in the Bundesliga.

The starting striker berth has remained one of complication and inconsistency for owners David Sullivan and David Gold for at least the last five years for the Hammers, with marquee striker signings either failing to fulfil their promise and potential, spending an extended spell on the treatment table or even most recently having their heads turned with lucrative, eye-catching offers from the Chinese Super League in the East.

But for Haller, the time to prove his worth in the Premier League has arrived in 2019/20, as the Hammers bid to finish in the top-ten and re-assert their relevance as outsiders for European qualification.

Upon signing for the club, Haller spoke of his pride at becoming the Hammer’s record signing:

“It means a lot (to be the record signing). It proves that the club [has] really wanted me for a long time. I felt this desire to sign me and I’m really happy to sign, also. it is an ambitious club, a nice club, a nice city and nice fans too. For me, I can guarantee that I will give 100% for the club because the club has given me this confidence and I will try to give it back every day in every game. I will always give 100% and respect the club. I think this is a normal thing and that I can guarantee. I know it’s a big transfer and there is a lot of expectation around me, and I just want to make people proud of this transfer and I will give everything I have.” – Sébastien Haller

West Ham’s director of football Mario Husillos also spoke positively after confirming the arrival of Haller:

“We are very pleased to welcome Sébastien and his family to West Ham United. It is no secret that we have been in the process of identifying a top class striker to add to the squad this summer, and much work has gone on behind the scenes to ensure that we were in a position to act once the right opportunity became available. Sébastien is a player we have been watching closely for some time – he has always been a key target and someone who myself, Manuel Pellegrini and David Sullivan were very keen to bring to the football club. He is a player with excellent pedigree and experience in three of Europe’s top leagues. His record at Eintracht Frankfurt in recent seasons has been up there with the top strikers in the Bundesliga, and we believe that his physical and technical qualities will be well suited to the Premier League.”

The History and Statistics

Haller enjoyed a great season with Frankfurt in 2018/19

The rise of Haller over the last three seasons has been nothing short of meteoric, with the Frenchman catapulting his career trajectory into new, unchartered territory for a player with just two seasons of football in Europe’s top five leagues.

Having commenced his youth career in the lower leagues of French football with F.C.O. Vigneux and Brétigny Foot, Haller joined Auxerre in 2007 as a 13-year-old with a dream. For five years, the Frenchman battled through the youth ranks with the club who would eventually give him his professional debut just five years later.

Haller made his first senior appearances for Auxerre’s reserves, where he excelled and scored 29 goals in 57 appearances across two seasons, whilst also appearing for the first-team across a three year period where he struggled to replicate his initial goalscoring consistency – scoring six times in 50 appearances for the club.

A loan spell to FT Utrecht followed after falling out of favour with his boyhood club, yet whilst the striker may have felt feelings of devastation at the club’s decision to loan him out, it would ultimately prove to be the catalyst for his career’s upward ascent as he shone for Utrecht, scoring 11 goals in 17 appearances and winning the club’s Player of the Year award.

Utrecht were eager to tie Haller down on extended terms in the Eredivise, and secured his signature for a fee believed to be less than £1m in the summer of 2015. Whilst the club’s hierarchy would have been delighted at securing such a promising prospect for such a low fee, no-one, perhaps including Haller himself, could’ve foreseen the impact he would make across the next two seasons in the Dutch top-flight.

In his first two full seasons after permanently signing for the club, Haller scored 34 goals and registered 10 assists in 73 appearances for Utrecht, as the Ereverdise outfit’s faith was rewarded to an extreme extent after an outlay that is believed to have been in the region of £675,000.

A French Under-21 international posting such promising goalscoring figures will inevitably attract interest from Europe’s bigger clubs, and Haller’s profile as a 21-year-old combative target-man with a proven track-record was of serious interest to Eintracht Frankfurt, who signed the Frenchman for a fee of £6.3m.

It was with Frankfurt where Haller’s career reached new heights and the striker’s reputation extended its glistening appearance to the Premier League, after 24 goals across two seasons alerted West Ham United to a player that unquestionably represents a gamble at a fee of £45m, but who could excel for the Hammers with the improved service that the likes of Felipe Anderson (£7.0m) and perhaps new-signing Pablo Fornals (£6.5m) might provide.

The 2019/20 campaign is yet another step up for Haller, with a weight of expectation and scrutiny that the 25-year-old is likely to have never faced in his career to date. But if West Ham’s club-record signing can deliver on the promise and potential that has surrounded his arrival at the London Stadium, then Pellegrini could have acquired a striker with the calibre that the Hammers have yearned for in their attempts to establish the club in the top-ten of the Premier League.

Comparisons


Minutes per shot Minutes per shot in the box Minutes per shot on target Minutes per key pass
Haller40.454.583.957.4
Chicharito37.955.687.8151.7
Anderson52.7109.1122.247
Antonio32.3 52.583.9691.3
Arnautovic 32.248.862.4 55.5
Fornals4080.1116.851.9

The Prospects

Haller in action for Eintracht Frankfurt against Chelsea

West Ham United’s struggles in the striker’s department have been well documented over the last five seasons, but there is an understandable sense of optimism that Haller could be the man to break this duck in securing a consistent, goalscoring forward to lead the Hammers’ frontline.

The departure of Marko Arnautovic to Shanghai SIPG has opened up a starting berth in the West Ham XI, and Haller’s underlying statistics suggest he could have the potential to excel for Pellegrini’s side in his debut Premier League campaign.

Haller certainly ranks favourable for minutes per shot in the box compared to our selection of West Ham players in 2018/19. Registering one there every 54.5 minutes put him above many of his new colleagues, including Chicharito, Anderson and Fornals. The same goes for his 83.9 minutes per shot on target.

However, it is worth pointing out that Haller did come off as the worse of the two when compared with Arnautovic. The Austrian recorded better minutes per shot, minutes per shot in the box and minutes per shot on target last season, as well as superior minutes per chance created figure.

That could certainly indicate that Haller may, at first, struggle to quite match the Fantasy potential of his predecessor when fit, especially when we consider the extra £0.5m FPL have asked us to pay.

Furthermore, the usual caveat applies that these figures were recorded in the Bundesliga, and not the Premier League, yet the German top-flight’s quality, as well as experience in European competition, should provide Fantasy managers with a sense of assurance over Haller’s abilities as a forward for 2019/20.

Yet for all the hype that has surrounded the 25-year-old’s arrival in the Premier League, his FPL price of £7.5m could make the Frenchman a potentially difficult option for selection before the season has even started.

Level in price with last season’s star performer Raúl Jiménez (£7.5m) and just 0.5m below Callum Wilson (£8.0m), Haller is up against some of FPL’s top performers and a number of Fantasy favourites for managers with regards to forwards outside of the heavy hitters such as Sergio Aguero (£12.0m), Harry Kane (£11.0m) and Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (£11.0m).

The obvious comparison that has been made with Haller is Jimenez given their identical £7.5m pricing, with the Mexican entering his second season with Wolves whilst Haller will be making his Premier League debut.

After scoring 13 goals and registering seven assists in 2018/19, Jimenez attained cult hero status in the Fantasy Premier League community, offering exceptional value and often earning points against some of the Premier League’s elite.

Therefore, owing to the direct price comparison, for those managers opting for a price structure that incorporates a £7.0m to £8.0m forward, the Jimenez vs Haller debate will be central to determining which striker, if either, warrants inclusion in your squad for the opening Gameweeks of 2019/20.

In directly comparing the two £7.5m priced forwards for 2019/20, the stats present an interesting picture that is worthy of deeper analysis. Jiménez ranks top for minutes per shot as well as minutes per shot in the box, but it is Haller who emerges the strongest of the two for minutes per shot on target and minutes per key pass.

Haller is certainly a more conservative shot-taker, having attempted 54 shots in his final Bundesliga campaign – a number that is dwarfed by Jimenez and his 111 shots, over double, in the Mexican’s debut Premier League season.

It becomes evident that Haller is taking a lot fewer shots than Jimenez which is a decisive factor in assessing the merits of these two forwards, but the Frenchman appears to more clinical as well as regularly providing more key passes for his teammates than the Wolves striker.

The debate of Jimenez vs Haller might take shape in the opening Gameweeks of 2019/20, but with the Mexican’s superior underlying stats as well as the fact he already has a season of Premier League football under his belt, it could be fair to say Haller is potentially overpriced at £7.5m ahead of his debut campaign in the English top-flight.

A particularly positive aspect of selecting Haller in your squad for 2019/20 will be an almost assured starting spot – the club have not shelled out £45m for a player to warm the bench – and this does give the selection of Haller an added element of assurance in your team.

The likes of Anderson and Fornals are also likely to provide increased goalscoring opportunities for the 6’3 forward, who had an aerial success rate of 59% in 2018/19 and scored four times from corners in his final season in the Bundesliga.

West Ham’s fixtures also present a dilemma for Fantasy managers. After facing Champions Manchester City on the opening day, the Hammers travel to Brighton and Watford before hosting Norwich in their first four fixtures. Games against Brighton, Watford and Norwich could prove appealing to Fantasy managers, but it would be difficult to justify selecting Haller for GW1 with the visit of City to the London Stadium.

The true viability of Haller as an asset in your squad for 2019/20 will become a far more informed debate when the Frenchman has got some minutes under his belt and his adaptability to the Premier League becomes clearer.

Yet for now, at a price of £7.5m and with such competitive counterparts in the same price bracket, the inclusion of Haller from the outset is a difficult one to justify for fantasy managers ahead of the 2019/20 campaign.

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  1. Kiwi Don
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    West Ham, Tottenham and Bournemouth first 3 for City. Anyone feel it is quite likely they concede in all 3? Having second thoughts about starting with a city defender.

    1. Ask Yourself
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I think they will yes

    2. avfc82
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      They kept clean sheets in all of the respective fixtures last season tho, and their defence was so, so good towards the end of last season.

      1. Andy'81
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Stones in for Kompany has to be a major concern though, it's his mistakes that tend to lead to opposition goals.

        1. avfc82
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          He does need to shake off those mistakes, but they kept plenty of clean sheets with him alongside Laporte last season, including Spurs at home in April. No guarantees Stones starts every week tho, if Otamendi stays he could be preferred in certain situations.

          1. Andy'81
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            They did but they also conceded at a far quicker rate with stones in the team ( With Stones Citeh conceded every 117 minutes whereas Laporte had a ratio of 145 minutes per every goal conceded on the season.)

            I can't see him shaking the clangers now, that one in the nations league against Holland just seemed to be typical Stones doing what he does.

            1. avfc82
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 14 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              The Stones, Laporte partnership kept more clean sheets than any other combination last season tho. Away from home in big, big games - Liverpool, Spurs, Arsenal, Everton etc, so they clearly trust him. Hopefully a good pre season with Pep can give him a bit more focus and improve his concentration levels.

      2. pingissimus
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Yes the end of season run was spectacular.

        Here’s the thing. Was it somehow down to the long run innwuth Liverpool? Did they tighten up in defence and lighten up in attack?

        Haven’t looked at stats but that’s how I remember it. I’m sort of expecting a more freewheeling start

        1. avfc82
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          It's a possibility, no Kompany, Rodri etc.

          It was 1 clean sheet in their opening 4 last season, conceding 1 against Huddersfield, Wolves and Newcastle, but then went on a bit of a run - 6 clean sheets in a row.

    3. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      That’s the way I see it.

      To me it makes Zinc a dubious choice as he only offers cs and no guarantee of playing as the season goes on.

      1. Deeney-is-a-god
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        he doesnt only offer CS though, think he will be involved in goals personally- Used to be a CAM and isn't his main strength going forwards?

  2. gomez123
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    King & Wilson anyone??

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Wilson and Fraser much better if you can stretch to another 1m

    2. Bumbaclot
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I really don’t like the cherries double up

    3. Kiwi Don
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      For first couple until a clear 6.5 million or under striker emerges I reckon.

    4. Steve Stiffler
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Willy only

    5. Bram
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I'm even considering King, Wilson and Fraser for the opening 2 whilst trying to figure out Chelsea with an eye to swapping to their similar price points gw3. Still early days though ....!

      1. Snevitz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        This is my plan as well, all good value at their price points with decent fixtures. Hoping to hold off on a transfer week 1 for a 'mini wildcard' to ensure a decent team going into week 3 - West ham and Chelsea players are my targets.

  3. falafel
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    A: Fabianski, Laporte, Jorginho
    B: Perez, Zinchenko, Perez

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Is B with Pope?

      1. falafel
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Oh yes sorry!

        1. Miguel Sanchez
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          B then

  4. aapoman
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Managed to squeeze Wilson in but not really sure if I like the Perez to JWP downgrade I made. Opinions? Easiest way to get fund would be to downgrade Ederson but just can't do it 🙁

    Ederson
    TAA Roberston Coleman Cathcart
    Salah Sterling Siggy JWP
    Wilson Deulofeu

    4.0; Dendoncker, Greenwood, Kelly

    1. Kiwi Don
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Swap siggy for a 7 million midfielder like Zaha, Anderson. Upgrade JWP.

    2. Bumbaclot
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Ederson to Pope.
      Coleman to zinchenko
      Jwp to to Perez ?

    3. Wild Card this!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      If you already have Wilson, stretch to Vardy then...or go back to King and upgrade JWP to Perez, with 1m to spare (maybe Cathcart to Zinch if he plays)...think it gives you better balance.

      1. aapoman
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        All numbers and info I have point out to Wilson being far superior pick than King. I think the balance of the team is fine now but unsure about few picks (mainly JWP). Other than that I'm quite happy.

    4. Klein
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Have a look at robinson(shu) instead. 5.5mil mid on oop. Probably their highest sighning too.

    5. BigDaveSaves
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Siggy - Fraser
      JWP - Perez
      Ederson - 4.5
      Coleman - Digne
      Cathcart - Zinchenko

      In my opinion that looks more balanced but it's all opinions until GW1 destroys all our templates ha!

  5. Emiliano Sala
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    What about this one?

    Pope
    Robbo VVD Digne Zinchenko
    Salah Sterling Perez
    Kane Deulofeu Mousset

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Sterling to KDB and upgrade Mousset

    2. mrpink32
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Interesting, i haven't seen Mousset in many drafts - but i have put him in mine recently. I think he will start at united, as he was a 10m record transfer.

      Have you seen him in pre season yet? Has he done anything?

      1. mrpink32
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        but to caveat he is on my bench

  6. Bumbaclot
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    A. Laporte/Maddison/brooks

    Or

    B. Zinchenko/siggy/Perez

    Any help with this would be greatly appreciated

    Thanks

    1. @persecuted_by_mods
        4 years, 9 months ago

        A for me, would still go Zinchenko over laporte until he starts getting rotated and dropped

        1. Bumbaclot
          • 13 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          So you think Maddison and brooks is a better combo than siggy/Perez?

          1. @persecuted_by_mods
              4 years, 9 months ago

              I really do, Madison especially

      • @persecuted_by_mods
          4 years, 9 months ago

          RMT please

          Pope
          VVD TAA Digne Dunk Zincenko
          Salah Sterling
          Kane Wilson

          Rotate Greenwood, Norwood, Dendock and Hayden but yeah basically playing with 10. Could downgrade Zinc to 4.5 and upgrade Norwood to 6.0

        • Steve Stiffler
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          What is the story with Nkeitah, how will he ever get minutes in an Arsenal forward line this season when Lacazette was even limited last year? (United fan so may be bias to choose Greenwood haha)

          1. Bumbaclot
            • 13 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Everyone thinks he will get minutes. He won’t

            1. Steve Stiffler
              • 7 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              yeah I don't think he will either, have a feeling Greenwood will though seems to be playing well in pre season and hes an exciting player

          2. Lemongrab
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            We could see a change of formation to a 4-3-3 with Lacazette through the middle and Auba wide right. This could see Eddie coming on for Laca in the last 20/30 minutes of games where we are comfortable. However I still would expect him to see most action in cups and Europa League. Remember we have Martinelli too who will want game time unless he is sent out on loan.

          3. Wild Card this!
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            He will be there as a cover if someone gets injured...second cover at best.

        • RUUD!
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          It's not for FPL but which duo would you rather have from Gameweek 1?

          A) Aguero + Pogba
          B) Auba + KDB

          1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            B by a long way

          2. RichRover
            • 11 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            B

        • Stimps
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Morning all, how's she cookin?

          Ryan
          TAA Coleman Zinchenko
          Salah KDB Fraser Perez
          Kane (c) Wilson Adams

          Button Dendonker Lundstram Kelly

          1. HamezMace
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Needs more Callum Robinson.

          2. Klopp's Kids
            • 10 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            One of the better ones!

          3. kime67
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Intresting, I do think kane can score more than sterling but kdb worries me. Maybe go siggy instead

          4. Robson-Canoe
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            That's one tasty lookin' sandwich. Similar to my Sterling-less draft. I'd go 4-4-2 with VVD ahead of Adams though.

          5. OLLY G
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            That is very nice tbf.

          6. Steve Stiffler
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            choosing between KDB Kane and Sterling is so difficult. I love the look of your team but no Sterling worries me

          7. Dr. Mantis Toboggan
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Quite like it, Wilson and Fraser could do serious business for you in their first two and then you'll have a chance to reassess the 6-8 bracket.

            I don't think Ryan will be the pick of the 4.5s, but I'm sure you're keeping an eye on Burnely or Henderson.

          8. Your Man With The Hair
            • 13 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Very similar look to my current draft. I think KDB is the way forward.

        • kime67
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Murray is 36 soon. Surely the 10+ goal seasons are over?

          1. The Wise Owl
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            It's possible.

        • OLLY G
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Coleman or Zinchenko?

          Thanks

          1. HamezMace
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            In isolation, Coleman.
            If you have Digne, then Zinchenko.

            1. Your Man With The Hair
              • 13 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              this

          2. Wild Card this!
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Coleman is nailed when fit...so Coleman.

        • De Gea is GOAT
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Anyone considering players from the promoted teams?
          Freeman, Sharp, Pukki etc

          1. Robson-Canoe
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Pukki yes, but terrible fixtures at the start. They're all a wait and see for me.

          2. aapoman
            • 10 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Sharp has decent early fixtures so at 6.0 I think he is the best striker to pick.

          3. De Gea is GOAT
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Thanks guys!

        • falafel
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Is Kane and Laporte a better pick than Zinchenko and Aguero?

          1. OLLY G
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            I think it is

          2. Lemongrab
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Do you have Sterling?

          3. pingissimus
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Think so.

            1. falafel
              • 6 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              No but KDB

              1. Lemongrab
                • 14 Years
                4 years, 9 months ago

                Yeah personally I think Kane and Laporte is the way to go.

        • Lemongrab
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Good article. I've got King as a placeholder for the first game or 2 and will be keeping a very close eye on Haller and West Ham.

        • Free Hat
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Genuine question :

          If you can manage a decent team with for example Sterling Salah and Kane (or other big hitter), but you have to play a 4.5 mid each week, like dendoncker, is it really so much worse points wise then when you only take Sterling Salah and a 6mid that has to play each week...?

          I like to think that even the 6mid would blank most of the gameweeks like a 4.5 would do...

          1. Rupert The Horse
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            And your bench?

            1. Free Hat
              • 5 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              True. But arent most benches around here non playing ( kelly, greenwood,nkiteah, button,...)

              1. Rupert The Horse
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                4 years, 9 months ago

                I’d want at least one back up. Keeper not included

          2. HamezMace
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            The most common counter argument to having all three seems to be that as you can only captain one, it's not worth hurting the overall balance of your team.

            The problem I've found this year is the lack of any defender I want who is less than 5.5m
            Any midfielder who is less than 6.5m
            Any striker who is less than 6.5m

            1. pingissimus
              • 5 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              I’m not overly convinced by the 5.5 crowd. Most seem to have fairly large question marks over them.

              Think I’m going to be happy to go lower in defence in one spot to wait and see about the likes of Zinc Coleman United Spurs etc

              1. HamezMace
                • 9 Years
                4 years, 9 months ago

                I'm quite happy starting with Zinchenko (with TAA and Digne in a back 3)
                I would be happy with Coleman too, and as you say Davies, Maguire, Matip - could be good if they can secure a spot.

                At 5m - Ake is probably the pick of the bunch, and honestly I'm not keen on him.

                1. pingissimus
                  • 5 Years
                  4 years, 9 months ago

                  Coleman is the one I’m closest to.

                  Very much thinking 3 real premiums - Laporte VVD TAA and compromise 4.5.

                  It has to be said though I’m happier taking a hit than many on here. If I had a good premium move in attack - getting in Vardy say then I’d be ok with shifting money into defence in a hit.

                  Generally speaking I’m budgeting for around 8-10 hits in the season with periodic mini WCs.

                  1. HamezMace
                    • 9 Years
                    4 years, 9 months ago

                    I don't like taking hits in general. Took about 3/4 last year.

                    I asked the question though, and some people on here, with decent ranks, were taking 20-25 hits over the season, so there is merit to it.

                    1. pingissimus
                      • 5 Years
                      4 years, 9 months ago

                      It’s play style.

                      Attacking hits can be real winners judging from the teams I followed last season on here. Equally of course conservativism can work too

                      I took way too many last time out. Strategy this time is just to change the rules of the game and say you’re allowed 47 transfers!!!

            2. Free Hat
              • 5 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              The cpt argument seems indeed a good point in this case. I didnt like the balance as well.

              1. HamezMace
                • 9 Years
                4 years, 9 months ago

                I couldn't fit them all in, I tried many times.
                Finally settled on going with Salah, Kane and KdB (over Sterling) and, what I feel, is a better overall team....that means not having to start Norwood every week (who by the way was benched for last nights friendly).

                1. Free Hat
                  • 5 Years
                  4 years, 9 months ago

                  Dito. Also went for Salah, Kdb and Kane. Reluctantly without Sterling, but I rather start with a heavy hitter and downgrade from there than the other way around. Who are your other mids?

                  1. HamezMace
                    • 9 Years
                    4 years, 9 months ago

                    Currently;

                    4.5 keeper
                    TAA - Dinge - Zinchenko (4.5 + 4.0)
                    Salah - KdB - Zaha - Perez
                    King - Kane - (£7m chelsea striker)

                    Not popular I know, but that's why I don't post RMTs.

                    1. Free Hat
                      • 5 Years
                      4 years, 9 months ago

                      If we all had the same team there would be a lot of winners. Nothing wrong with being different. Che striker good be golden. Also like Zaha and Perez(have him as well)

                      1. Free Hat
                        • 5 Years
                        4 years, 9 months ago

                        Could*

                      2. HamezMace
                        • 9 Years
                        4 years, 9 months ago

                        I've said many times £7m for a Chelsea striker is a bargain, they have been £10m+ in seasons past. I'm surprised by the amount of people I see moaning that Abraham is too expensive, what were they hoping for, that he'd come in at 5.5m and be on the bench all year? Just get Origi if that's what you wanted.

                        ...anyway I digress, good luck with your team.

                        1. Free Hat
                          • 5 Years
                          4 years, 9 months ago

                          Thanks. You as well!

          3. Lemongrab
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            You've got potential for a 6m to get a few goals and assists (Yarmolenko or CHO for example could be bargains) whereas for 4.5 you're really just looking for 2pts a week.

            1. Free Hat
              • 5 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              I agree, but would that 6mid points make up for the lack of Kane in this example

              1. Lemongrab
                • 14 Years
                4 years, 9 months ago

                The potential is there. If CHO comes back when Chelsea have an easy run of games and he is playing every week then he could easily be getting regular points. Of course depends on who you're downgrading Kane to and that players respective form.

                1. Free Hat
                  • 5 Years
                  4 years, 9 months ago

                  True. CHO and Yarmolenko (with the fixtures) seems indeed good options like you said. I also like the look of Pereyra if he comes back in the team with their fixtures

          4. Dr. Mantis Toboggan
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            If you can stretch to a 6.5, I think the gap between that and 4.5 is worth foregoing a third premium

            You mightn't pick the right one from the off, but at least one and probably a number of the Leicester/Chelsea/United/WestHam/Villa/Watford boys, Brooks, Robinson, Norwood etc are going to kick on and make fun of their price tag. I wouldn't be comfortable not being able to get in it.

            The premiums will score regularly and occasionally haul, but the real value in them comes from captaincy.

            1. Free Hat
              • 5 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              Well said!

        • Ask Yourself
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Did that MEN article about KDB say that both him and Rodri would be playing together as CDMs or are Pep’s CDM options?

          1. avfc82
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            It was only a training session, but he lined up alongside Rodri, I suppose in a double pivot kind of way. One to monitor in the actual game. Could be good news for the full backs.

            1. Ask Yourself
              • 7 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              Well yes this is what got me thinking because would that suit Zinchenko ? Makes me think a mendy or Angelino fit in better but I guess we will see tofsy

              1. Ask Yourself
                • 7 Years
                4 years, 9 months ago

                Today

              2. avfc82
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • Has Moderation Rights
                • 14 Years
                4 years, 9 months ago

                It's a good point, and yes I think a 4-2-3-1 (?) would probably suit Mendy more.

                1. Zladan
                  • 6 Years
                  4 years, 9 months ago

                  This.

          2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Blimey. That would set the cat ...

        • FreddyP3
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          A. Vvd and ederson
          B. Laporte and allison

          Which one is better than the other? And why..?

          1. Emiliano Sala
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            A

        • Gommy
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Draft Team so far...

          Alisson - Ryan)
          Laporte - TAA - AWB - Coleman - Janmaat
          Fraser - Bilva - Salah - Pulisic - Dendoncker
          King - Deulofeu - Jimenez

          Bench for GW1 will likely be: Ryan - AWB - Coleman - Dendoncker

          1. Klein
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            If you have Allison its not worth having ryan. Downgrade to 4.0 and play alli every week. Also would play awb or coleman for janmaat.

            1. Gommy
              • 14 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              Yeah it's a valid point. Thanks for your thoughts.

        • AC
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Lots of people have Perez in their teams, I would make a point that missing 1 or 2 pre season games due to small niggles its worth considering leaving them out. Same goes for King, it can hurt their effectiveness even if they are declared fit for game week 1. personally I don't have either in my team at the moment.

          1. HamezMace
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Brendan Rodgers says the injury was minor, and expects him to feature in the remaining pre-season games.

            1. HamezMace
              • 9 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              For clarity, from LCFC.com.

              After Saturday’s game, Rodgers provided a fitness update on a number of the Club’s stars, including Ayoze Pérez, who missed the weekend’s triumph with an ankle complaint.

              “He should be fine next week, it was just that he took a knock in training which meant his ankle swelled up,” Rodgers said of the Spaniard. “We’re hopeful next week that he’ll be back.

              1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                4 years, 9 months ago

                Good stuff! Thank you for info & quote!!! 😀

            2. AC
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              Agreed it's minor but it's small margins, effectively he's a game behind the other players and may not be training for say 4-5 days. I just think that its important to hit the ground running as a player with a full pre season

              1. HamezMace
                • 9 Years
                4 years, 9 months ago

                The game came out so early this year that I think many are forgetting, we still have two and half weeks to go.

          2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            If they're players you believe in, and you want in your team you'd be absolutely kicking yourself if you left them out and they score or assist in GW1

            Not worth the blood pressure increase that would generate 🙂

            1. AC
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              Haha it's a fair point, just the amount of times (not necessarily FPL directly related) a player or manager justifies the good/bad performance of a player through having an interrupted/uninterrupted pre season could have some correlation to FPL points.

          3. pingissimus
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Fair point - especially given ready made Tielemans replacement

            I’m looking at players with a fairly full preseason in a settled side as one of my priorities. May yet go out on a limb with my Liverpool picks on that basis.

            1. AC
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              That's the other side of the coin, late arriving but fit players do we give them a pass?

              1. pingissimus
                • 5 Years
                4 years, 9 months ago

                Thought I saw a quote with Pep saying some players would only return to training around 4/5 August. It was their choice when to come back.

                Sterling up top has to be at least a possibility!

                My original thinking was Mo returning to training around the same time also feels dicey - most especially with his regular partners out of training.

          4. Free Hat
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Is King injured as well?

        • Lemongrab
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Can I get a RMT?

          Pope Button
          Robbo Digne TAA Diop 4.5 (tbc)
          KDB Sterling Perez Salah Dendonk
          King Adams Greenwood

          0.5itb to swap King with Haller or Jiminez in gw 2 or 3

          1. Lemongrab
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Sorry 1m itb for transfer

          2. jomikijiq
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            I like it

            monitor Adams vs Ings (I know that they will probably both play but in terms who is the better option)

            Haller/Jimmy are 1.0 more than King

            1. Lemongrab
              • 14 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              Yeah I've got a mil in the bank not 0.5

              Don't trust Ings not to get injured he burned me last season but will keep an eye on him

          3. Murder On Zidanesfloor
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            just get VVD and Wilson

        • jomikijiq
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Who do you think are the best two MIDs for a combined cost of 13.5m?

          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Perez and Townsend.

            1. jomikijiq
              • 8 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              Cheers. I'm thinking Fraser and Townsend atm.

          2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Perez & someone... Mid price mids really don't appeal to me this year

          3. Gringo Kid
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Apart from first round Anderson

          4. Robson-Canoe
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Perez + Brooks + 0.5

          5. pingissimus
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Really don’t like anything Palace to start.

            The squad is wafer thin, looking very dodgy in preseason and any reinforcements will come too late to be integrated.

            Townsend is a nice call going forward though. Id go something like

            Anderson Leicester 6.5?
            Maddison Gross?

          6. Free Hat
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Pereyra seems a good shout with good fixtures

          7. Tabasco
            • 13 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            I'd consider:

            Pérez & Zaha
            Fraser & Pererya
            Brooks & Maddison

            Perhaps in that order? Depends on the rest of your team...

        • MikeLowrey
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          A) Zinchenko Rich Salah Wilson
          B) Robbo Rich Fraser Kane

          1. jomikijiq
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            A

          2. Robson-Canoe
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            The one with Salah in it, always

        • Dacra
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Che Adams, worth a punt? That 0.5 helps..

          1. Lemongrab
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            I've got him currently. Should be solid enough and there's not much to excite at 6.5 unless King has a good season.

          2. Gringo Kid
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            No, if they play one striker only that will be Ings

            1. Dacra
              • 9 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              Ings wworth a punt at same price then?

            2. Lemongrab
              • 14 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              I think the manager plays a narrow 4-2-2-2 with 2 strikers so would expect them both to play.

              1. Gringo Kid
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 5 Years
                4 years, 9 months ago

                I'm not that sure that Soton will play two strikers, they'll change formation in that case. They've played loan striker last season

                1. Gringo Kid
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 5 Years
                  4 years, 9 months ago

                  *lone

                2. internal error
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 11 Years
                  4 years, 9 months ago

                  Where did Redmond play?

                  1. Differential C (Mark)
                    • 8 Years
                    4 years, 9 months ago

                    Redmond played as striker last season in a few games beacuse we had a lack of qualiy, quick pacy striker in our ranks. Ings was injured too often, Long could finish only 1/300 of his chances, and Austin was not the type of strike that fit Ralph's system.

                    He was used as an inside winger several times, cutting in to plays as almost a number 10 behind Long and Ings at times.

              2. Differential C (Mark)
                • 8 Years
                4 years, 9 months ago

                This. 4-2-2-2, we don't play a solo striker nowadays,

                1. Differential C (Mark)
                  • 8 Years
                  4 years, 9 months ago

                  Ralph played 4-2-2-2 in RBL, so I expect he wants to implemenet that in the team in preseason. Its his prefered formation.

          3. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            I'm like a moth to a flame with Danny Ings

            If he stays fit through pre season I think I might have to gamble on getting 3-4 games out of him

            His record last year was superb when played (for his price)

            He just missed 15 games which is too many

            Not currently in my team, but could be come GW1

            1. Differential C (Mark)
              • 8 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              He has come out and said that his main focus this season is keeping his fitness in check. Encourgaing, at least.

              1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                • 14 Years
                4 years, 9 months ago

                He's one of the few FPL players I'd be ok with gambling on

                Him & Yarmolenko look like potentially being extremely useful if they could get games

                Neither in my team at present but both being very closely monitored

        • Farke in hell
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          What do you think was the best game of the premier league last season from a neutral perspective that had high stakes, high energy driven game with tremendous amount of talent on the field?

          1. internal error
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Liverpool 3-1 Man Utd

          2. AC
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Man city 2-1 vs Liverpool

            1. Bram
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              Agree here - absolutely pivotal to City finally winning it.

          3. HamezMace
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            A good question, and I don't have an answer, as I immediately thought of Spurs winning at the Etihad in the CL QF 2nd leg...which was probably the best game of football I'd seen, certainly involving two english teams, for many years.

          4. Differential C (Mark)
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Neutral Perspective, that United-Chelsea game that finished 2-2 was pretty good.

            Another one that sticks out was that Spurs-Liverpool game where Sissoko missed that big chance? That wasn't a bad game to watch.

            Spurs-United 0-1 where De GEa had like 11 saves or something was a pretty good watch too.

            Biased one, best game was Southampton 3-2 Arsenal to cut their unbeaten run, OMG scenes, I was jumping and screamimg like a madman when Austin headed the winner home.

          5. Zladan
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            City’s last game of the season, ensuring Liverpool’s PL drought continues.

            You love to see it.

            1. Differential C (Mark)
              • 8 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              Scenes when Glenn Murray won Liverpool the league for like 40 seconds haha.

            2. goriuanx
              • 13 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              Sir Jurgen Klopp making United fans support City, only to go on and win the biggest trophy in football instead.

              You love to see it.

              1. Zladan
                • 6 Years
                4 years, 9 months ago

                Regardless of who the manager was, they got the whole league (bar LFC) supporting City lol

          6. goriuanx
            • 13 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Best game with high stakes and most talent on display: Manchester City 2-1 Liverpool

            Most entertaining game: Wolves 4-3 Leicester

            Most surprising game: Manchester United 0-2 Cardiff

            1. Differential C (Mark)
              • 8 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              Holy cow that Wolves Leicester game was insane. Did you see the look on Puel's face when Jota scored the winner haha. Priceless.

          7. Astronautovic
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Arsenal 4 - 2 spurs

        • Tabbara
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Thoughts :
          Pope (Button)
          Zinchenko Coleman Robertson TAA (Kelly)
          Gross Sterling Salah Maddison (dendoncker)
          Vardy King (Greenwood)

          Thanks

          1. Kiwi Don
            • 12 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Like it a lot. Nicely balanced.

        • Emiliano Sala
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Walker or Jota?

          1. Differential C (Mark)
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Tought choice, but Jota just edges it imo. Wolves thrive under pressure.

          2. goriuanx
            • 13 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Jota. Maybe bias though as he is one of my favourite players.

        • Emiliano Sala
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Do you think Abraham may change all these drafts before season starts?

          1. Dr. Mantis Toboggan
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Not that hard to go from 6.5 to Abraham, can't imagine it would take massive changes to get him in if required

          2. Rotation's Alter Ego
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 12 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Could do. Has the right work ethic for Lampard, loved watching his high press against Barca

            1. Rotation's Alter Ego
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 12 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              Suspect he'll be more popular for GW 3, might have a clearer idea about the risk of rotation then

          3. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            What happens with him & Giroud?

            If Giroud is going to be playing he'd justify 0.5 more & then some - the guy is extremely productive for FPL

        • After Supper Ghost Stories
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Hi,

          Can I have advice please?

          Sterling and 4.5 STR e.g. Greenwood; or
          Aguero and 4.5 MID e.g. Stephens or Hayden.

          Thanks.

          1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            kun might not even start GW1 if that helps

            1. After Supper Ghost Stories
              • 5 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              Cheers 🙂

        • Murder On Zidanesfloor
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          How's my team looking? Laca looks increasingly like the main man at Arsenal with Auba out wide and also took a pen yesterday. Provides flexibility at 9.5 for a switch to Vardy or Kane if required.

          Pope
          TAA VVD Zinch Coleman
          Salah KDB Siggy Perez
          Laca Wilson

          Button Dendo Greenwood Rico

          Feedback appreciated 🙂

          1. HamezMace
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            I do like Lacazette, noticed he took the penalty as well, but when I asked earlier I was advised Auba is still the first choice taker.

            ...The flexibility to downgrade to Vardy is also a nice bonus.

            1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
              • 5 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              Cheers

          2. dunas_dog
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Excellent! That’s my team ( except I may go Moura for week 1 with .5 m to switch to Sigurdsson or Richarlison once see if Richarlison gets off to another good start) and presently Gibson over Kelly