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Is a Liverpool defensive double-up a viable option for Fantasy managers?

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Liverpool’s defence has been fairly disappointing this season – at least as a collective.

Having recorded an impressive 21 clean sheets in 2018/19 (the most in a single Premier League campaign in 11 years), the Reds’ backline was always going to struggle to match last season’s output.

So far there have been just two shut-outs: only Norwich City and Tottenham Hotspur have registered fewer in the English top flight in 2019/20.

Even their second string have been getting in on the act, with Liverpool drawing 5-5 with Arsenal in a bonkers EFL Cup tie on Wednesday.

A favourable fixture swing awaits Jurgen Klopp’s side after the November international break, however, with the Reds playing Crystal Palace, Brighton and Hove Albion, Everton, Bournemouth and Watford before their blank Gameweek 18.

Fantasy managers might be tentatively considering a Liverpool defensive double-up during this period, then, but how do the Reds’ underlying statistics stack up? Have they been unlucky so far? And how are they comparing to last season’s numbers?

We attempt to address some of these questions in our Members’ article below.

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  1. FOO FIGHTER
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Rashford flagged?

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    1. It’s gonna Ben Mee
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Yes

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  2. Daily-Hunter
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Wildcard team

    GK Henderson ( Button )
    D TAA Alonso Mendy Lundstram ( Soyuncu )
    M Sterling De Bruyne Salah Son ( Dendoncker )
    F Abraham Maupay ( Connoly )

    0.0 in the bank.

    Thanks!

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    1. Aleksei
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      waste of WC, double Brighton is a joke up front, yes, they have nice fixtures from GW 16, but their best assets are Ryan and Trossard. I can understand Maupay but only if Connoly gets upgraded. Alonso and Mendy not the best options. And not a single Leicester player? Good luck

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      1. Pacer.
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        How can you say it's a waste of a WC without even seeing the original team

        And why do you need to scoff incredulously at perfectly good differential choices like maupay Mendy and Alonso, whilst simultaneously making ludicrous, unfounded claims about trossard, a player who played precisely about 5 minutes, being Brighton's best option

        I think he should disregard everything you said.

        It's a decent team outside of template with some good differentials

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    2. Eugeniekwh
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Son alonso maupay > Martial vardy and another defender?

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    3. Daily-Hunter
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      GK Henderson ( Pope )
      D TAA Chilwell Lundstram ( Rico Kelly )
      M Sterling De Bruyne Salah Tielemans ( Dendoncker )
      F Vardy Abraham Maupay

      Is it more balanced? Are 3 Leicester guys much? Should I get Martial rather than Tielemans?

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      1. Whats the Huth
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        Much better.
        Can you afford martial over Tielemans. If not, this team is mikes better than previously

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        1. Pacer.
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 5 months ago

          Until Son, Mendy and Alonso go and rack up cricket scores and he's left with his head in his hands

          Is it really better. Is it really more balanced.

          Or have you just made his team behind the curve, instead of in front of it

          FFS groupthink. How well are FFS managers doing this year?

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        2. Daily-Hunter
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 5 months ago

          Thanks TM 🙂 I will try my gut choice then or maybe wait... cos my team is below

          GK Schmeichel ( Button )
          D TAA Robertson Lundstram Diop ( Dunk )
          M Sterling De Bruyne Mount ( Guendouzi Dendoncker )
          F Kun Pukki Wilson

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    4. Pukki Party
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Great team

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    5. pollz
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      I see nothing wrong with this. Looks like loads of points if you ask me 🙂

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    6. Daily-Hunter
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      If I downgrade one GK it can be with Martial and possible bench or I can get Pope Gazzaniga, but I will have dead bench.

      GK Pope ( Button )
      D TAA Chilwell Lundstram ( Rico Danso )
      M Sterling De Bruyne Salah Martial ( Dendoncker )
      F Vardy Abraham Maupay

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      1. Pacer.
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        Ask yourself why you picked Maupay, Alonso, Son, Mendy etc.

        FFS wants you to have a team just like them

        What if those players hit 40 points this week and Leicester blank, or hit a sticky patch

        Your original WC was totally acceptable, just outside of FFS groupthink

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        1. jia you
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 5 months ago

          I agree with TM, dont go changing it to follow the herd...go with your gut.
          I'm going Siggy over Martial as my Mahrez replacement and Bench Boosting this game-week as I fancy him to do well over his next few fixtures. Just an example of going with my gut rather than following the herd on here.

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  3. It’s gonna Ben Mee
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Is this article from July?

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    1. badgerboy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      RAM (Robertson, Alexander-Arnold and Mendy) making a comeback?

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  4. aspilcueta
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Not many people opting for a double up of Salah and Mane over the coming few weeks.....

    Aside from cash restraints that one might have, why not have both?

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    1. Party time
        4 years, 5 months ago

        Got both at good prices for the past few gameweeks

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      • Whats the Huth
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        Impossible to sell sterling for the mane / salah double up.

        I’m doing mane to salah soon though

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      • It’s gonna Ben Mee
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        Hard to look past the cost but I’ll give you a second reason: captaincy. Salah used to be a perma armband kind of FPL asset, which you kind of expect from 12,4m. Not any more.

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      • Ze_Austin
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        The cash restraints that one might have

        And my TV is at 104.9, but I still won't. Gonna have to lose one of Sterling and KDB, when I could easily go with TAA + Robbo instead. Rest of my team is a version of the template

        For those who might refer to City's difficult run of fixtures, Salah and Mane just came out of a difficult run of fixtures... And are in the dream team. It's just how Liverpool and City work. So I'm keeping Sterling and KDB through the tough run (Liverpool, Man U, Leicester, Wolves, nobody else) of fixtures

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        1. marcus2704
          • 13 Years
          4 years, 5 months ago

          I have been using a midfield quartet of Sterling, KDB, Mane and Salah for a while now and so far its working pretty well for me.

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          1. Ze_Austin
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 5 months ago

            Update your team link for the new season. I guess you didn't notice that, so I understand 🙂

            Wanted to confirm you're going without TAA, which works. Do you have Vardy?

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            1. marcus2704
              • 13 Years
              4 years, 5 months ago

              My defense is cheap but still picks up points, and my bench is non-existent but so far I always have a playing 11.

              Pope (Button)
              Rico Kelly Soyuncu Lundstram Tomori
              Salah Mane KDB Sterling (Elneny)
              Vardy Abraham (Greenwood)

              I debated all week to swap Salah for Son, and upgrade the 5th midfield or third striker, but so far have resisted.

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              1. Ze_Austin
                • 5 Years
                4 years, 5 months ago

                Nice 🙂

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          2. Eugeniekwh
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 5 months ago

            David silva matching one of salah and mane's output. So id argue it can be better?

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        2. Whats the Huth
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 5 months ago

          Me and you have an identical team. Except you have CHO and Jamatt to my Tomori and Maddison

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          1. Ze_Austin
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 5 months ago

            I see we both believe in the template

            Or, rather, ended up on the template because we picked/dropped players based on form and fixtures... Which is what the FFS comments template really is anyway

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            1. Whats the Huth
              • 8 Years
              4 years, 5 months ago

              I’d say we are more ahead of the curve. Seeing how we’ve managed to accumulate 104m TV. As we’re getting players in before they haul. Like Vardy, then price rises comes along

              Rather than chasing last weeks points.

              What’s your next move? I’m going to be burning a transfer myself.

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              1. Ze_Austin
                • 5 Years
                4 years, 5 months ago

                I've already made it. Decided not to be patient with CHO as that's how Mahrez traps form. One move I'd planned for ages, and one reactionary move I was going to be priced out on. Soy to Robbo, CHO to Perez. I'm willing to accept a CHO hat trick, but the reason I got him was utterly destroyed by Pulisic in one game, so I won't let hope tie me down. Now have two Leicester, Chelsea and City attackers

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                1. Whats the Huth
                  • 8 Years
                  4 years, 5 months ago

                  Solid moves
                  Two of each for me also.
                  I do have Soy, but thinking of moving him on to Lascelles in the next couple weeks.
                  I’m personally thinking of just doing sideway move of Mane to Salah pretty soon.

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                  1. Ze_Austin
                    • 5 Years
                    4 years, 5 months ago

                    In the past two seasons, Salah to Mane had felt like a points downgrade for the sake of funds

                    Now it feels like we're just tossing coins, as I can't clearly state who'll have the most points over any given period. When it feels this way, I take the cheaper guy. Mane has to fall off a cliff in stats (his stats, not in comparison to Salah's) and form for me to drop him

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                    1. Whats the Huth
                      • 8 Years
                      4 years, 5 months ago

                      True. I’m keeping and eye on salah and Mane this weekend. And decide then. But in the meantime, burning a FT
                      Your team is solid by the way. I’ve tried to get Robbo and Pérez in. No chance, about 0.6 too expensive.
                      Good luck!

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      • Murder On Zidanesfloor
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        too much $ cause Sterling and KDB still amazing picks

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    2. TheDragon
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Anyone been a bit too Rash with their transfers?

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      1. FOO FIGHTER
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        Looks like it.

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    3. GARRYSMEDLEY
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Who would u bring in for Mahrez?

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      1. Ze_Austin
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        Auto-pick

        Seriously. Anybody in form with good fixtures. Depends on what you're doing with the cash elsewhere

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        1. GARRYSMEDLEY
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          4 years, 5 months ago

          Was thinking Tielemens, Maddison or Martial?

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          1. Ze_Austin
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 5 months ago

            Only hindsight will answer this definitively. All replacements have pros and cons, and you can never predict luck, especially this season. So pick one, say your prayers and dive in 😀

            But yeah, sell Mahrez

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      2. Party time
          4 years, 5 months ago

          Zaha

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          1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 5 months ago

            2 points each in the next 4 games. Leicester, Chelsea, Liverpool and Burnley away.

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            1. Ze_Austin
              • 5 Years
              4 years, 5 months ago

              Ah come on. Not one penalty? There should be 5 points somewhere... 2 points in the rest 😀

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              1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
                • 5 Years
                4 years, 5 months ago

                Yeah maybe 1 penalty

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                1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
                  • 5 Years
                  4 years, 5 months ago

                  😆

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            2. Party time
                4 years, 5 months ago

                We'll see about that

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          2. Konstaapeli
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 5 months ago

            Dilva

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          3. Whats the Huth
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 5 months ago

            Maddison

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          4. Murder On Zidanesfloor
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 5 months ago

            Martial, Dilva and Willian all good shouts

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            1. Party time
                4 years, 5 months ago

                😆 so you think Martial

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                1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
                  • 5 Years
                  4 years, 5 months ago

                  Yeah I think he's a decent punt if someone's keen.

                  I argued against him being "the best OOP player in the game" and a "gamechanging differential" who will "maintain his level of consistency all season" lol

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                  1. Party time
                      4 years, 5 months ago

                      You also called him a trap but now suggesting.

                      Isn't it wonderful how yesterday is made to be different from today? 🙂

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                      1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
                        • 5 Years
                        4 years, 5 months ago

                        He's worth a punt for anyone who fancies it, but could easily be a trap. If that makes it clearer for you

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                        1. Party time
                            4 years, 5 months ago

                            😆

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                          • Murder On Zidanesfloor
                            • 5 Years
                            4 years, 5 months ago

                            Hence the term punt, i.e., high risk, high return but high chance of failure.

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                            1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
                              • 5 Years
                              4 years, 5 months ago

                              which in turn means, there is a chance it could work well, but there is a chance he is a trap.

                              Only hindsight will tell.

                              Need to explain in baby steps for you lad

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                                1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
                                  • 5 Years
                                  4 years, 5 months ago

                                  Thats right, you only talk kak in English so great if you shift to whatever that is 😆

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              • Gianfranco Zola
                • 8 Years
                4 years, 5 months ago

                Repost. Better replacement for Pukki?

                A) Martial (2 FT)
                B) Jimenez

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                1. Konstaapeli
                  • 7 Years
                  4 years, 5 months ago

                  B

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              • _Gunner
                • 9 Years
                4 years, 5 months ago

                Who will score more next GW?

                A- Wilson + Mendy
                B- Rashford + Otamendi
                C- Rashford + Cancelo -4

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              • Jafoole_88
                • 9 Years
                4 years, 5 months ago

                Anyone reckon that Pep will continue to start Bernardo Silva given that he might face a ban soon? Might as well play him until then

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              • HAMMERTIME107
                • 5 Years
                4 years, 5 months ago

                How is this please?

                Any suggestions on transfers £0 in the bank!

                Roberto
                Tomori | Soyuncu | Rico
                Salah | James | Sterling | Mount
                Vardy | Aubameyang | Rashford

                Button | Guendouzi | Kelly | Prodl

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              • Rinseboy
                • 12 Years
                4 years, 5 months ago

                I assume my best move this week is probably to save even though Auba has been poor!? 2 FTs ready to get some pool attack seems sensible.
                Welcome thoughts though!

                Pope
                TAA Mendy Lunds 
                Sterling KDB Mount Yarmolenko 
                Auba Vardy Tammy 
                Button Soyuncu Rico Cantwell

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                1. Christina.
                  • 14 Years
                  4 years, 5 months ago

                  nice. Easy to fix with 2 FT's next week.

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                  1. Rinseboy
                    • 12 Years
                    4 years, 5 months ago

                    thanks Christina. Might do Auba and Mount to Ayew and Salah? thoughts

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              • Whats the Huth
                • 8 Years
                4 years, 5 months ago

                Play Connolly or Maddison

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                1. Moeda
                  • 9 Years
                  4 years, 5 months ago

                  Maddison

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                2. Henryyy
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 8 Years
                  4 years, 5 months ago

                  Both

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              • g40steve
                • 6 Years
                4 years, 5 months ago

                Looking for a cheap third forward who plays with low ownership?

                Mousset, second half sub gaining minutes
                Ayew, plays most games
                Connolly, fpl fav but Trossard lurking

                Will give front eight,

                Mount, Maddy, Martial, KDB, Razz,
                Tammy, Vardy, ???

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                1. Christina.
                  • 14 Years
                  4 years, 5 months ago

                  go cheap as possible, you will never play him

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                  1. Aleksei
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 5 Years
                    4 years, 5 months ago

                    this

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                2. Brosstan
                  • 9 Years
                  4 years, 5 months ago

                  Greenwood

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              • KING KOUNDER
                • 13 Years
                4 years, 5 months ago

                WC Team.

                Ryan McGovern
                Lowton Soy Lund Janmatt Rico
                Martial KDB Mane Mount Dendocker
                Kun Rashford Vardy

                0.5 ITB
                Go easy on me.

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                1. Christina.
                  • 14 Years
                  4 years, 5 months ago

                  not my cup of tea.
                  GL

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                2. Murder On Zidanesfloor
                  • 5 Years
                  4 years, 5 months ago

                  Decent attempt.

                  Kun > Connolly,
                  Rashford > Tammy
                  Dendonker > Sterling
                  Lowton > Trent/Robbo

                  and its perfect.

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                  1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
                    • 5 Years
                    4 years, 5 months ago

                    Man United double is extremely knee jerky and. Just getting martial is enough, but if you need funds for TAA, he is the one I would sacrifice.

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                  2. St Pauli Walnuts
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 5 Years
                    4 years, 5 months ago

                    Yes, that's way better.

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              • KING KOUNDER
                • 13 Years
                4 years, 5 months ago

                Sorry wrong team posted above.
                WC Team.

                Ryan McGovern
                Lowton Soy Lund Janmatt Rico
                Martial KDB Mane Mount Sterling
                Greenwood Rashford Vardy

                0.5 ITB

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                1. Aleksei
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 5 Years
                  4 years, 5 months ago

                  basically the same team, just Razz instead of Kun.

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                  1. KING KOUNDER
                    • 13 Years
                    4 years, 5 months ago

                    Yes Sir.

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                    1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
                      • 5 Years
                      4 years, 5 months ago

                      replied above

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              • abaalan
                • 8 Years
                4 years, 5 months ago

                Link to downloadable scoutcast?

                Not been posted has it...?

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              • AC Yew
                • 5 Years
                4 years, 5 months ago

                Hey guys

                Thinking of making the following moves this week for a -4
                Salah Maddison Pukki ---> Sterling Mane and Connolly.

                Thoughts?

                Would leave me with:
                Sterling KDB Mane Mount Dendoncker
                Abraham Wilson Connolly

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                1. Aleksei
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 5 Years
                  4 years, 5 months ago

                  just ship Pukki, or save FT

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                  1. AC Yew
                    • 5 Years
                    4 years, 5 months ago

                    I've saved 2 FT for this week so this would only be for a hit.

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              • Zimo
                • 5 Years
                4 years, 5 months ago

                Is Salah injured or fit for the Aston Villa game?

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                1. Aleksei
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 5 Years
                  4 years, 5 months ago

                  fit

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                2. _Gunner
                  • 9 Years
                  4 years, 5 months ago

                  think fit

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              • Oggle22
                • 7 Years
                4 years, 5 months ago

                2ft were to improve
                Pope
                TAA Otemendi Lundstarm Rico
                Salah Sterling Mount
                Kun Abraham King

                Button Cantwell Guendouzi Pieters

                1)Kun and King to Rash and Vardy?
                2)Otemendi to.?

                Cheers

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              • Andrew Garfield
                • 6 Years
                4 years, 5 months ago

                Please rate my team,
                Pope
                Mendy/Lundstram/Tomori
                Mane/Sterling(C)/KDB/Yarmolenko/Willian
                Vardy/Rasford
                Bench: Button/Diop/Rico/Greenwood

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                1. Aleksei
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 5 Years
                  4 years, 5 months ago

                  don't like defence, otherwise good and a bit different

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                  1. Andrew Garfield
                    • 6 Years
                    4 years, 5 months ago

                    I think Lundstram has chance to get assist or goal & Tomori will be Cleansheet this GW

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              • mike09
                • 5 Years
                4 years, 5 months ago

                Activated WC. How is this looking?

                Gazzaniga
                TAA - Tomori - Lundstram
                Sterling - Mane - KDB - Martial - Mount
                Vardy - Abraham

                McGovern - Kelly - Greenwood - Rico

                0.0 ITB

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                1. Aleksei
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 5 Years
                  4 years, 5 months ago

                  template

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                  1. Daily-Hunter
                    • 7 Years
                    4 years, 5 months ago

                    Is template good or bad? Does it mean you go with crowd? Ty

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                2. Eat my goal!
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 5 Years
                  4 years, 5 months ago

                  Looks good to me

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              • Eat my goal!
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 5 Years
                4 years, 5 months ago

                Squeezing in robbo whilst keeping the below, is pretty much impossible

                Taa salah sterling Kdb vardy

                I can just about do it if I switch salah to mane and lose Tammy for ings

                Is it worth it?

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                1. Zimo
                  • 5 Years
                  4 years, 5 months ago

                  No not if u have to do Tammy to ings

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                  1. Eat my goal!
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 5 Years
                    4 years, 5 months ago

                    Tammy is becoming frustrating

                    Ings has potential with good fixtures after the intl break

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              • fridge
                • 12 Years
                4 years, 5 months ago

                Pope
                Tomori. Soyuncu. Lundstram
                Salah. KDB. Sterling. Mount
                Haller. Wilson. Abraham

                Button. Cantwell. Montoya. Maitland

                2 FT, 0 ITB

                A) Haller, Wilson > Vardy + Jota (or another sub 6.1 striker)?
                B) Maitland > Rico and get vardy next week

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              • Jealous Viper
                • 5 Years
                4 years, 5 months ago

                Kane ane Robertson in for Auba and Digne for a hit? Plan on capping Kane next week and don't completely mind the Everton game. Typically high scoring

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              • niloh1
                • 8 Years
                4 years, 5 months ago

                is this worth a hit? auba & mcginn to sterling & 5m mid?

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              • liboo
                • 6 Years
                4 years, 5 months ago

                Is that very risky to captain Aguero???

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              • Numbuster
                • 7 Years
                4 years, 5 months ago

                Think further..
                IF you dont have Sterling right now, would you bring him in with a hit?
                Is he is an essential for this week versus Southampton?

                Now i still cant decide. Whether should i bring him in or not.
                After this GW, City facing a hard fixture while Liverpool faces easier one here.

                I have KDB, but should i strengthen myself with Sterling?

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              • Fpl Richie
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 8 Years
                4 years, 5 months ago

                Pope
                TAA Soyuncu Lundstram
                Mount Mane Kdb CHO
                Vardy Abra Kun
                Button Rico Dendo Boly* 0.8itb 1ft
                Confused. Best advice?
                A. Hold and hope. 2-3 moves next week.
                B. Kun/CHO to Connolly/Sterling
                C. Kun/CHO to spread funds.... Silva/Rashford or Firmino/Martial
                D. Boly to any def up to 5.8 (maybe Cancelo?)
                E. CHO to Tielemans

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                1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
                  • 5 Years
                  4 years, 5 months ago

                  A

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              • Sandy Ravage
                • 8 Years
                4 years, 5 months ago

                From GW13 onwards,
                A - Liverpool DEF (cry, BHA, EVE, bou, WAT)
                B - Leicester MID (bha, EVE, WAT, avl, NOR)

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                1. Fpl Richie
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 8 Years
                  4 years, 5 months ago

                  I assume Robbo vs Tielemans. I'm torn - A has the Royal status but B has the form and fixs.

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                  1. Sandy Ravage
                    • 8 Years
                    4 years, 5 months ago

                    Exactly. It would be an easier decision if Liverpool looked like keeping clean sheets

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                    1. Sandy Ravage
                      • 8 Years
                      4 years, 5 months ago

                      Tielemans + Pereira + Vardy wound be a nice trio to have for those fixtures

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                2. Wally banter
                  • 11 Years
                  4 years, 5 months ago

                  A

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              • Rock Papiss Cissès
                • 8 Years
                4 years, 5 months ago

                Decided to stay ahead of the curve and used my free transfers to stay ahead of the curve and used my 2FT to do C. Wilson + Pereira to Jimenez and Robbo.
                How she looking boys and girls?

                Pope
                TAA Robertson Tomori
                Mane Mount Maddison Sterling KDB
                Jimenez Abraham

                McGovern Rico Connolly 3.9

                Tomori to Soy next week.. am i GTG?

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