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What next for Liverpool’s FPL assets after 4-0 thrashing at Man City?

Man City 4-0 Liverpool

  • Goals: Kevin De Bruyne (£10.7m), Raheem Sterling (£11.7m), Phil Foden (£5.2m)
  • Own Goals: Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (£6.2m)
  • Assists: Sterling x2, Foden, De Bruyne
  • Bonus Points: De Bruyne x3, Sterling x2, Foden x1

Fantasy Premier League managers were given their first glimpse at Liverpool assets following last week’s long-awaited Premier League title win… and it was not pretty. Hope now rests on a fierce backlash for the upcoming Aston Villa match in Gameweek 33+.

After walking out to a guard of honour at the Etihad Stadium, Jurgen Klopp’s men were thumped 4-0 by Manchester City in one of the worst Liverpool displays of recent years.

We always expected a slight drop-off in quality from the Reds once the title was wrapped up, but very few would have predicted that this would manifest itself at the Etihad Stadium, where Liverpool had the chance to beat their title-rivals on the pitch as well as the table.

What followed was a performance of extremely poor defending and profligacy in the final third. While the game itself was relatively even for large spells, Manchester City were the side whose quality shone through in the key areas at both ends of the field.

“They used their chances – not all, but a lot – and we didn’t. So if City was 100 per cent deserving of course today, but a 5-3 or something like that would have been possible as well.” – Jurgen Klopp

Klopp strongly denied any criticism of his players’ attitudes at full-time, insisting only their focus was lacking in Gameweek 32+. Either way, the celebrations of the club’s first English top-flight title for 30 years are unlikely to have helped the preparation for this game.

“We didn’t behave like somebody who became champions a week ago. So like, it’s not important. It’s all good. We lacked fluidity, and that’s for sure, and in some situations – 50/50 situations – they were quicker than us in mind.” – Jurgen Klopp

The question hanging over Liverpool now is whether or not they will bounce back for the Gameweek 33+ visit of Aston Villa to Anfield. Well, there were certainly signs at the Etihad Stadium that they are capable of responding to this defeat.

It might be seven hours and 42 minutes since Liverpool’s last away goal in any competition, but five successive blanks on the road will mean nothing to them on home turf, even if there is no crowd to cheer them on.

Had Klopp’s men been handed slightly more luck against Manchester City, they might have been two goals to the good before Raheem Sterling (£11.7m) won a first-half penalty on Thursday evening.

Mohamed Salah (£12.6m) was responsible for both of these chances, drawing a save from Ederson (£6.0m) for a fourth-minute volley and striking the post after a 19th-minute counter on Manchester City’s high defensive line.

Sadio Mané (£12.5m) will also be kicking himself after getting into an unmarked position from close range in the 11th minute, only to nod a Trent Alexander-Arnold (£7.8m) cross from deep into the ground.

Owners of both Salah and Mané are almost certain to hold onto Liverpool’s dangermen for Gameweek 33+ and a Gameweek 34+ trip to Brighton looks like a good a place as any to arrest their goalless run on the road. After all, this was the first time they have blanked in five away matches in all competitions since 1992. That has to end soon for a team as good as this one.

However, Fantasy managers may want to see some defensive improvements from Liverpool when Aston Villa come to Anfield, if nothing else, just to ease their minds.

For all the Reds’ excellent organisation at the back over the last two seasons, they were torn apart at ease by Pep Guardiola’s troops on Thursday night, with Andrew Robertson (£7.0m) and Joe Gomez (£5.3m) coming in for the lion’s share of the criticism.

The left-back was pulled out of position far too many times for a player of his quality, allowing Phil Foden (£5.2m) all the time he needed to slot in Manchester City’s third goal, while Gomez was run ragged by Sterling before Klopp replaced him with Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (£6.2m) at half-time, almost as an act of mercy.

To put Liverpool’s Gameweek 32+ defending into context, this was the first time they trailed by three goals at half-time of a Premier League since May 2015, as they went onto lose to Stoke City on the final day of the season. The last time Klopp found himself 3-0 down at that stage of a league match was way back during his time at Mainz in 2007.

Meanwhile, Alexander-Arnold’s deduction of two points for conceding four times in a match is the first time that has happened since Gameweek 4 of the 2017/18 season, when he cost just £4.5m.

While the Reds’ attacking FPL assets appear safer from the risk of rotation for the next match, alterations to the back-line hardly feel out of the question, in light of some of their performances.

For example, Neco Williams (£4.0m) has impressed in his recent cameo appearances and would not look out of place operating in Alexander-Arnold’s role for Gameweek 33+.

Klopp arguably has less choice when it comes to tweaking his defensive set-up, now that Joel Matip (£5.2m) is out for the season and Dejan Lovren (£5.3m) missed the Manchester City game with an injury, so Gomez could earn a recall against Aston Villa. Alternatively, Fabinho (£5.4m) could reprise his role from the second half of Thursday night alongside Virgil van Dijk (£6.5m) if required.

However, it must be remembered that, from a defensive perspective, Liverpool’s upcoming fixtures remain promising with Aston Villa (home), Brighton (away) and Burnley (home) their next three opponents. Dean Smith’s men are certainly unlikely to match Manchester City’s attacking credentials in Gameweek 33+, having blanked in two of their four matches since the Premier League restart.

While Manchester City’s assets were the stars of Thursday night, their success comes with caveats of their own.

Kevin De Bruyne (£10.7m) was his usual imperious self, completely dominating proceedings with his goal and assist. He was at the heart of virtually every Manchester City attack and could have ended the game with a much higher score than he did.

The Belgian played Foden in for a decent blocked shot in the eighth minute, before sliding Gabriel Jesus (£9.6m) into a one-on-one with Alisson (£6.2m), which the Liverpool goalkeeper won.

De Bruyne exposed Robertson’s poor positioning once again midway through the first period, finding Jesus in space with an exquisite pass, only for the Brazilian to screw agonisingly wide.

The 50th minute saw another of De Bruyne’s near-assists. This time he was the one getting behind Robertson on the right, squaring to an onrushing Foden, whose clever attempt at goal was cleared off the line by van Dijk.

De Bruyne was then “robbed” of an assist when Sterling put away the fourth goal just after the hour, his slightly wayward shot from the Belgian’s excellent crossfield pass turned into the net by Oxlade-Chamberlain.

Then, substitute Riyad Mahrez (£8.5m) was put through the middle by De Bruyne in the closing stages but dragged wide.

“(De Bruyne is) a really good player. He has something unique. He can run, the vision he has. The personality right now, making four penalties in a row when we struggled this season with them. Right now he’s the best.” – Pep Guardiola

Crucially, De Bruyne got his 11th goal of the season, taking his FPL points tally for the season to 215, breaking his previous record of 209 (2017/18). That goal came from the penalty spot, as the former Chelsea man retains control of the spot-kicks, as well as a 100% record for them this season.

Even though he has averaged 9.3 points per game since the Premier League restart, De Bruyne owners may be somewhat concerned about the prospect of rotation for the Gameweek 33+ trip to Southampton.

With just two days for recovery, he played 90 minutes against Liverpool while David Silva (£7.3m) stayed on the bench all evening and Mahrez and Bernardo Silva (£7.7m) featured only as second-half substitutes.

The same caveat also applies to Foden, who is proving just how explosive he can be when he starts matches.

As much as De Bruyne was the key player at the Etihad Stadium, Foden was his more-than-capable side-kick, linking up well with his colleagues as part of Manchester City’s front-three, creating chances and sticking them away with composure beyond his years. 

A 12-point haul against Liverpool was Foden’s second double-digit score in as many home starts and he is yet to blank in a match he has played some part in since the Premier League restart.

However, whether or not Foden can immediately reward managers who sign him for Gameweek 33+, of course, remains to be seen, considering he played 90 minutes on Thursday night.

“(Phil Foden) is a midfield player. In time he is going to learn to play holding midfielder even, because he can. When he takes the ball, he is aggressive against defenders, and shoots and scores. We cannot waste that. It is so difficult to find that quality.” – Pep Guardiola

By contrast, Mahrez’s benching arguably makes him the go-to Manchester City option for Sunday’s game, especially as he came close to further Fantasy returns against Liverpool. The Algerian snuck a powerful shot inside the near post during the closing stages, only to see it ruled out for a Foden handball in the build-up. That was a rather unfortunate way to see the goal chalked off which, had it stood, would have left Mahrez with attacking returns in every single match since the return of the Premier League. Particularly ominous as he will almost certainly start at St. Mary’s.

The same could be said of Sterling, perhaps to a lesser extent. He produced arguably his best performance of 2020 against Liverpool, spending some time at centre-forward again, and was brought off in the 78th minute, perhaps with one eye on Gameweek 33+. That said, the Englishman has been better at home recently, registering double-figures in each of his last two at the Etihad, but you have to go back to Gameweek 19 for his last attacking return on the road.

Finally, the weeks that followed Sergio Aguero‘s (£11.7m) injury have been not been kind to those hoping Jesus would become an auto-include for our Fantasy teams.

The Liverpool outing was only his second start since the Premier League came back and, to make matters worse, the Brazilian offered next to nothing.

Nothing summed up his evening more than the moment that earned him an early substitution in the 58th minute. Drifting out to the right-hand side, he played a square ball to nobody in particular, giving up possession to spark a Liverpool counter-attack. Instantly, Guardiola leapt up and ordered Mahrez to stop warming up so that he could come onto the pitch.

Manchester City XI (4-3-3): Ederson; Mendy, Laporte (Otamendi 79′), Garcia, Walker (Cancelo 73′); Rodrigo, Gundogan, De Bruyne; Sterling (B Silva 79′), Jesus (Mahrez 58′), Foden.

Liverpool XI (4-3-3): Alisson; Robertson, van Dijk, Gomez (Oxlade-Chamberlain 46′), Alexander-Arnold (N Williams 76′); Fabinho, Henderson, Wijnaldum (Keïta 62′); Mané, Firmino (Origi 62′), Salah.

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  1. For Fuchs Sake
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    TC this week? Bruno?

    1. Jack Burton
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I am i think

  2. Fit_to_drop
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Lost ground this week with a 56 pointer 🙁

    1FT, .4ITB

    Patricio,
    TAA, Lascelles, Doherty, Robinson
    Salah, KDB, Bruno, Martial
    Jiminez, Rashford,

    Button, DCL, Saka, Holgate

    Roll Transfer or take a -4 to get Mahrez into the picture?

  3. UnitednationsXI
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Morning all, thoughts on 2Ft and 0.2m. Big decision is to go with or without salah

    Ddg
    Taa Doherty Aurier -- Holgate Kiko
    Kdb Salah Bruno Sarr -- Guendouzi
    Dcl Jimmy Rashford

    A: Aurier + Sarr >> Robinson + Pulisic
    - hopefully Robinson starts this gw
    - Kiko/Holgate rotate well as 3rd def afterwards

    B: Guendouzi + Sarr + Doherty >> Foden + Pulisic + Taylor (-4) and bench DCL
    - Similar to A but downgrade Doherty instead and improve 5th mid to Foden

    C: Salah + Sarr + DCL >> Mahrez + Pulisic + Jesus (-4)
    - it’s basically salah/Dcl vs Mahrez/Jesus

  4. Winter_is_coming
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    If I have Salah it's no brainer to captain him?

    1. Botman
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      yeh he's too good at Anfield

    2. Jullepuu
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Not really a no brainer when United are playing bou

      1. Fit_to_drop
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I agree. There is a chance Salah could be given a rest. No chance of Bruno be resting against BOU.

        1. mad_beer ✅
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          If I had him I would captain him.

    3. tuvok
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Salah looked really goal hungry last night. They will be hurting after that beating too. And what are liverpool going to rest anyone for? They're not in any other competition and they're on the back of a 3 month break

  5. Lev Yashin
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    If only I got my (C) choice right as often as I bottomed out on here.......

    OK, thoughts on this:

    DDG
    TAA, Doherty, Fernandez
    Mané, Kdb, Bruno(C), Pulisic
    Jimenez, Ings, DCL

    Button, Saïss, Holgate, Davis

    1FT + 1.0m ITB

    DCL-> Greenwood
    Mané -> Salah

    1. Botman
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      don't know about Mane > Salah for -4

      1. Lev Yashin
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Would be for free.

        1. Botman
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          right sorry I thought you were making both changes. Tbh I would be tempted to save the FT

    2. Emm7980
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      For this week I would do A.

  6. Pomp and Circumstance
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    re-post... thoughts on this draft WC team?, with looking to BB in GW 34 (the one after this one)

    Pope, Martinez
    Taylor, Azpilicueta, Robinson, Kiko, Holgate
    KDB, Mahrez, Salah, Pulisic, Bruno
    Greenwood, Rashford, DCL

    thanks--for input and suggestions...

    1. SH
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Keep the GKs and the Mids and try again

  7. Emm7980
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Bruno, Aurier >martial and AWB
    Trying to block rival, is this madness

    Martinez
    TAA Doh Aurier lascalles holgate
    KDB mane fernandes son guenduezi
    Dcl rash jimi

    2ft leading ML by 40
    He has son too

    Thanks

    1. Orion
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Keep Bruno, imo...

    2. james 101
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Son to martial

      1. Emm7980
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Yea ideally that's the play, rival also has son and doesn't have Bruno. Getting martial for son also fills my utd spots ruling out, AWB. So many choices, thanks

    3. Tozier
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Definitely don't get rid of Bruno

      1. Emm7980
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Ok Son, guen >martial,foden for free sound good?
        Bench either Dcl or foden.

        1. Tozier
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Sounds great and don't bench Foden

  8. Orion
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Martinez
    TAA, Doherty, Taylor
    KDB, Salah, Bruno, Traoré
    Aubameyang, Rashford, Jimenez

    Nyland, Lascelles, Ward, Saka
    1ft, 0.0 ITB
    Any suggestions... ?
    Cheers guys!

  9. King Kohli
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Would you BB this week or use it next gw?

    Pope Hendo
    TAA Doherty Gomez AWB Taylor
    Salah KDB Bruno Mahrez Cantwell
    Dcl Jimenez Greenwood

    1. Orion
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Can’t decide myself also when is the right time for BB...

      1. Zilla
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        38

        1. Orion
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          But it could be a big gamble who will play by then

      2. King Kohli
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I could maybe take a -4 next gw and bring in Pulisic for Cantwell.
        Fixtures look good for BB this week though, but worried about rotation for Pool & City players

    2. Botman
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      this week

  10. Pompel
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Is Laporte waste of 3rd City spot? Allows a spot for Puli/Willian in midfield

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      No but he will get rotated

      1. Pompel
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Hmm, if so might as well get Foden

    2. El Presidente
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Eric Garcia is the way forward! What a player he is, totally nailed!

  11. Tozier
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    For my Draft team:

    Should I ditch Maddison for Bowen? Maddison has been driving me up the wall for 10 gws now and Bowen seems to be on form and has great fixtures.

    1. Botman
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      just answered your own question

  12. BrutalLogiC
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Did Son get a very late BP?

    1. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Yes

    2. diesel001
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Nope. 3pts for assist. 2pts for appearance

      1. diesel001
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Oh wait. He did! Damn. He was terrible. How did he manage that?

      2. Botman
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        he got 6 points

    3. james 101
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Too little too late

  13. Hazz
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Solskjaer: "Of course there are a couple of knocks. You do start feeling things now after a little bit, so there might be a couple of changes but let’s see today. The boys who didn’t play on Tuesday want to play and are ready to step in if they have to."

    FFS Olé...

    1. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Greenwood bench incoming

      1. Hazz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Yeah - it was my first thought actually (even though I saw no knock). Played the full 90.
        BOU is an easy game for James etc.

  14. Buck The Trent
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Would you start ?

    A DCL (tot)
    B Foden (sou)

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      B

    2. Gunners in Haaland
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      B

    3. Botman
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      A

    4. Orion
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Foden... DCL is looking terrible

    5. Reacher
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      B

    6. KDF
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      B

    7. 007 [RoboKlopp]
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      B

    8. Botman and Robben
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      B

  15. Dont_Win_Friends_With_Salah…
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Would you... Roll FT or do Son to Pulisic/Mahrez? Lack of City is scaring me.

    Patricio
    TAA Doh Aurier
    Mane KDB Son Bruno
    Jiminez Rashford Greenwood

    Button Lascelles Saka Robinson

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Get Mahrez

  16. FPL_BUCCANEER
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Pope
    TAA Doh AWB
    Salah KDB Bruno(C) Pulisic
    Jimmy Rash DCL

    0FT 0.3ITB

    G2G?

  17. Reacher
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    How does this FH team look?

    Pope
    AWB TAA VVD
    Mahrez KDB Salah Fernandes Pulisic
    Jimenez Greenwood

    Should I be looking at somehow squeezing in Martial and/or Rashford?

    Advice appreciated

    1. Fit_to_drop
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Other than the post above which could infer some Man U benchings (greenwood?), Id be happy with that team

      1. Reacher
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        That is the worry as my bench is poor

    2. Pomp and Circumstance
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      good team

    3. KDF
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Martial if you're going to, GL with deciding how to.

      1. Reacher
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Would have to be for Pulisic or Mahrez which would include downgrading AWB

  18. Jones Kusi
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Save FT or any tips what to do?
    0.0 ITB 1 FT
    Martinez
    Taa Awb Doherty Lascelles
    Salah Kdb Martial Pulisic
    Rashford Jimenez

    Martin Sarr Nketiah Simpson

    1. Drexl Spivey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Love it, tbh.

  19. 007 [RoboKlopp]
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Who is better for this week?
    A. Saiss vs ARS
    B. Saint-Maximin vs WHU
    Ta

    1. Roy Rovers
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Saïss

    2. maholts
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      B

  20. Roy Rovers
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Which def into this lot?

    A -Taylor
    B -Kiko
    C -Holgate
    Pope
    TAA Doherty Lascelles
    Martial Salah KDB Bruno
    Jimi DCL Rashford

    Krul Cantwell ???? Johnson

    1. Reacher
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      A

      1. Roy Rovers
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Cheers Reacher

    2. Mayor of Flair
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      A

    3. g40steve
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Charlie T

  21. maholts
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Would you (I'm leading my private leagues so might hedge some)

    A either DCL or Ings to Rashford for -4

    B DCL and Ings to Kane and Greenwood for -8

    C do nothing

  22. Mayor of Flair
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Play one of:

    A. Charlie Taylor v SU
    B. Lascelles v WHU

    1. Fit_to_drop
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Coin flip. Maybe A as B could have more goals in it for either side.

      1. Mayor of Flair
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Thank you

  23. Fit_to_drop
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    To get in Mahrez would you go:

    Rashford, Saka >> Mahrez, Greenwood -4

  24. TheTinman
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Lost some ground on ML rivals this week.

    Would you rather 9pts in the hand or a Bench Boost

    1. KDF
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      BB

      1. KDF
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Your BB provided 20points

    2. Drexl Spivey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      BB.

      Spoil yourself.

      1. Drexl Spivey
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Oh, you've already used it.

    3. TheTinman
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      😥

      1. KDF
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Looking at the team you're trying to fend off, they also have a WC. I would say they're about to use BB and then WC afterwards to put the value into the 11.

        That's going to be a battle, nail captain and you'll be able to take the win.

        Good luck

    4. tuvok
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I'm not sure. Outside of a double gameweek the bench boost loses a lot of power, I certainly wouldn't expect anything like 20 points from my bench for example, more like 5.

      If you've got a good bench it's likely you're missing out on value in your first 11, so your opponent will likely either set himself up for a BB (and lose value elsewhere in other weeks) or have dross on the bench for his BB

      1. KDF
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        If you're setting up for a BB you would expect double figures from 4 players, just to have a playing bench gets 8points

        1. tuvok
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Yeah if you're setting up for a BB, you might put a fair bit of value into it with the likes of say, Foden & Saiss etc + a playing goalkeeper. If you do & they all play and say you get 1 clean sheet & an assist, you're looking at around 16-20.

          That's a great BB. But it would probs mean you've sacrificed value in your first 11. If you don't have a wildcard, that's going to have an effect over a number of weeks as you reshuffle value back to your first 11.

          If you don't plan that much for your BB, and have the usual Holgate, Kiko, Saka, maybe a playing cheap keeper like Martinez you're not even guaranteed 8. Kiko got 1pt at home to Sot last time out, Saka got benched at home to Norwich.

          I wouldn't be that worried about a rival having a BB right now I don't think

          1. KDF
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            The BB team

            https://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/3546531/event/41

            They have a WC

            1. KDF
              • 7 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              They also have 2 FT to move a couple for the BB chip I fully expect to be used this GW

  25. Jönny
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Do we think Greenwood is as likely a starter as anyone in the United team, at present?

    1. TheTinman
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Not as likely as anyone no. Defence fairly nailed. Pogba and Fernandes fairly nailed.

    2. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      He should be 1st choice, but he is young and there are other options as cover so he'll have some minutes managed - more-so than the likes of Fernandes & AWB/Maguire etc.

      1. Jönny
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks both! Was thinking about bringing him in to open up some funds...

    3. @persecuted_by_mods
        3 years, 8 months ago

        At this moment in time its his place to lose, I'm not sure if Ole will randomly bring in Dan James to stink out the place

    4. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      OGS on @ManUtd selection issues: "If there are a couple of changes don't be surprised just because we have got to look after the players. I've got many reasons to play the same team that did so well against Sheff Utd + Brighton but I also have reasons to rotate."

      https://twitter.com/sistoney67/status/1278984794597134336?

      I don't think I'll punt on Greenwood this week.

      1. Pompel
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Yea, got to keep Rashford for this GW

      2. tuvok
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Greenwood's only started 2 of the last 4 (didn't play against Norwich in the cup, and on the bench against spurs) so given he's on good form & united need the points, it's unlikely he'll be benched against bournemouth I think. Their next game after Saturday is a Thursday too, so not too much need to rotate this time around

      3. @persecuted_by_mods
          3 years, 8 months ago

          The team will be the same 11 barring injury or serious fatigue, Ole knows by now that the rotation players aren't up to scratch. Dan James is almost useless against a low block

        • Gomolon
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Does this mean Martial is nailed then?

      4. JelliedSpark968
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Age-old question:

        Salah or Mane for rest of the season?

        1. @persecuted_by_mods
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Salah

        2. @persecuted_by_mods
            3 years, 8 months ago

            How many points ahead of you could a rival be at this stage for you to admit defeat? (If all chips etc have been used)

            1. KDF
              • 7 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              Depends on how similar your teams are. If you have completely different teams could take a high number of points in a week. Equally could lose even more ground.

              I'd say about 50 is catchable (need a lot to go your way) but with some fortune could do quite a bit more

              1. @persecuted_by_mods
                  3 years, 8 months ago

                  Thanks, gonna be tough to catch 80 then

                  1. KDF
                    • 7 Years
                    3 years, 8 months ago

                    I managed to do it a few seasons back, in Alexis last season at Arsenal, captained him and brought in Ozil and they both hauled. I was about 60 behind and ended up winning by about 40 I think. He didn't bother to block my threats though.

                    It can be done but shouldn't happen really. Take some risks now, captain a player he doesn't own who might go big. Need to get the gap down to put some pressure on

                    1. @persecuted_by_mods
                        3 years, 8 months ago

                        Cheers, yup that's the clear obvious tactic.. the risk obviously is the people behind you can catch you if things go wrong even though I'm comfortable ahead of them

                        1. KDF
                          • 7 Years
                          3 years, 8 months ago

                          How much room do you have to play with with the teams below?

                          Also is it a cash league? what's the payout for dropping a place Vs gaining one or holding your position?

                          I'd say take a risk this week , quite a few options for captain and potential for some cameos for a lot of them too so could pay off. Then re-evaluate depending on whether it pays off or not

                          1. @persecuted_by_mods
                              3 years, 8 months ago

                              The one I'm focusing on is the cash league with the leader 80 ahead, all the others I'm ahead in still but the people below me are rapidly catching up (especially after the gw just gone had a horror show)

                              1. KDF
                                • 7 Years
                                3 years, 8 months ago

                                This week is a good week to take a risk because of all of the rotation, if you get it right

                                Martial, Bruno, Salah/Mane, Sterling, Mahrez, KdB are all a big score if they get the 90

                                I've deliberately only looked at midfielders due to the extra points available.

                                2 goals, cs and an assist (assuming that's 3bp) gets you to 38 points which could happen for any of those if they play. Get that and your opponent gets a blank and you're half way there just on captain.

                              2. KDF
                                • 7 Years
                                3 years, 8 months ago

                                What's your team link?

                        2. KDF
                          • 7 Years
                          3 years, 8 months ago

                          Was 16/17 season and they both were getting double digit hauls almost every week for last 5 or 6. They were basically only passing to each other so every time Arsenal scored it was goal and assist points.

                • Glad He Ate Her
                  • 3 Years
                  3 years, 8 months ago

                  I'm from the future, July 5th 2020

                  Don't get Greenwood

                • tuvok
                  • 5 Years
                  3 years, 8 months ago

                  If you were free hitting this week, who would be first on your team sheet?

                  1. @persecuted_by_mods
                      3 years, 8 months ago

                      Excluding Salah kdb? Probably Mahrez pulisic Bruno martial rashford Kane Antonio

                      1. tuvok
                        • 5 Years
                        3 years, 8 months ago

                        So difficult to fit them all in. Currently on:

                        KDB, Salah (c), Mane, Pulisic, Bruno

                        Rashford, Greenwood

                    • Long ago I drew a walrus
                      • 13 Years
                      3 years, 8 months ago

                      Done several FH drafts and the first name each time has been Aaron Connolly

                      1. tuvok
                        • 5 Years
                        3 years, 8 months ago

                        haha he has been in all mine too

                    • Rover
                      • 7 Years
                      3 years, 8 months ago

                      Mahrez

                      1. tuvok
                        • 5 Years
                        3 years, 8 months ago

                        This article + some comments have almost convinced me that he's a better bet than KDB due to rotation threat.. If KDB plays and hauls though it's red arrow time