The Promoted

What can we expect from Ivan Toney and Brentford’s midfielders in FPL?

Our series on the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) players from the newly promoted clubs concludes with this look at Brentford’s midfielders and forwards.

Bees striker Ivan Toney (£6.5m) is currently the second most popular FPL forward, with his 32% ownership not far off three times that of the rest of the Brentford squad put together.

So is the hype warranted and are there any other budget gems from Thomas Frank’s side that we’re overlooking in midfield and up top?

In this article, we will assess the west Londoners’ overall attacking prospects and then present a player-by-player rundown.

And in case you missed it, check out our guide to the Bees’ goalkeepers and defenders here.

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WHAT IS BRENTFORD’S GOAL-SCORING POTENTIAL IN FPL?

Brentford were the Championship’s highest-scoring side last season, an achievement they could also boast of in their near-miss campaign of 2019/20.

There was an almost even split in terms of home and away goals scored (39:40) in 2020/21 but the absence of fans from grounds may have been a contributing factor.

In previous campaigns, Frank’s troops were more prolific on home soil (44:36 in 2019/20 and 50:23 in 2018/19).

PWDLFAGDPTSCS
Total46241577942+378717
Home2312923920+194510
Away2312654022+18427

Above: Brentford’s home/away record in 2020/21


Underlying stats-wise, Brentford were in the top three for most attacking metrics – although did attempt 99 fewer shots than champions Norwich.

2020/21 total (rank v other Championship clubs)
Goals scored79 (1st)
Shots 621 (3rd)
Shots on target 207 (3rd)
Big chances70 (2nd)
Expected goals (xG)76.1 (2nd)

Above stats taken from fbref and fotmob

There’s almost always a drop-off in attacking output when a side comes up from the English second tier to face sterner tests, as RedLightning reported in his excellent yearly community article:

While they scored 76 goals on average as Championship teams, that figure dropped to just 40 in the Premier League.

Expecting the Bees to emulate the achievements of Leeds, who plundered a remarkable 62 goals last season, is overly optimistic, given that the tally recorded by Marcelo Bielsa’s side was a decade-long high for a newly-promoted club.

PLAYER BY PLAYER

2020/21: APPS, GOALS AND ASSISTS

PlayerPosAppsStartsGoalsAssists2021/22 FPL Position2021/22 FPL Price
Christian NørgaardDM/CB171500MID£5.0m
Shandon BaptisteCM1001
Jan ŽambůrekCM6001MID£4.5m
Mads BidstrupCM4100MID£4.5m
Josh DasilvaAM302654MID£5.5m
Mathias JensenCM453527MID£5.0m
Vitaly JaneltDM413633MID£5.0m
Saman GhoddosAM401632MID£5.5m
Tariqe FosuRW/LW391943MID£5.5m
Sergi CanósRW/LW463398MID£5.5m
Bryan MbeumoRW/LW4437810MID£5.5m
Halil DervişoğluST0000FWD£5.5m
Marcus ForssST39971FWD£5.5m
Ivan ToneyST45443110FWD£6.5m

THE MIDFIELDERS: CENTRAL/DEFENSIVE

As one would expect, there is little to shout about from a Fantasy perspective in the engine room.

Defensive midfielder Christian Norgaard (£5.0m) has zero goals in 59 Championships appearances and was even deployed at centre-half in the closing stages of 2020/21, with Frank moving to a wing-back system in the push for promotion.

Vitaly Janelt (£5.0m), who deputised for the injured Norgaard for much of the promotion-winning campaign, did chip in with half a dozen attacking returns but is very much a ‘number six’ with limited offensive threat.

As for new signing Frank Onyeka (£5.0m), the fact that the midfield spoiler was nicknamed ‘Free-Kick Frank’ at former club FC Midtjylland – not for his ability to convert dead-ball deliveries but for his fondness of a flying challenge – tells us all we need to know from a Fantasy perspective.

Head coach Thomas Frank suggests he will play as a number eight in the Bees’ system, so will at least operate further up the pitch than Janelt or Norgaard:

[Onyeka] plays as an eight in our system, he is very good at getting from box to box and will be valuable to us when we don’t have the ball. He has come from the Danish league and was one of the best midfield players in that league, we think he has the potential to develop further.

With his pace, power and ability to win the ball I am sure Frank will be a great addition to the Brentford squad.

Unlike the trio mentioned above, Mathias Jensen (£5.0m) probably warrants the extra half a million over the bargain-bin £4.5m rung.

The Dane was Brentford’s leading chance creator last season and only eight Championship players carved out more key passes than his 67.

A set-piece specialist, well over 40% of the chances he supplied were from free-kicks and corners.

Jensen banked seven assists in all, but whatever goal threat he posed was mostly from distance: over two-thirds of his shots came from outside the box.

There’s also the uncertainty over exactly which midfield combination Frank goes for, with Janelt, Norgaard, Jensen and Onyeka potentially competing for only two spots, depending on the set-up.

Jan Zamburek and Mads Bidstrup are best forgotten about in the £4.5m pool while Shandon Baptiste, back from a lengthy injury and still unpriced by FPL despite racking up the game-time in pre-season, only adds to the depth (and thus uncertainty) in the engine room.

THE MIDFIELDERS: ATTACKING/WINGERS

Frank opted for a 4-3-3 for much of last season, with Jensen often playing to the one side of the holding midfielder, be it Janelt or Norgaard.

The other component of that three-man midfield was less nailed-on in the second half of 2020/21, thanks to Josh Da Silva‘s (£5.5m) injury.

Da Silva was a regular in the first half of the campaign and indeed was an ever-present starter in the opening 17 games, going on to make Frank’s line-up on 26 occasions before a hip injury curtailed his campaign.

Da Silva contributed five goals and four assists in his outings and his average of 1.2 shots per game was the best of Brentford’s central midfielders although like Jensen, well over 60% of his efforts came from outside the box.

Rumours also persist that he will remain on the sidelines for quite some time and indeed he hasn’t been sighted in pre-season.

Saman Ghoddos (£5.5m) and the now-departed Emiliano Marcondes were occasionally thrown into the fray, the former looking overpriced given the sizeable rotation risk status he carries: only 16 of his 40 Championship appearances were from the start.

Wingers Tarique Fosu, Sergi Canos and Bryan Mbeumo also come in at the £5.5m mark.

It’s extremely unlikely that all three will be accommodated in a 4-3-3 but it’s possible in the 3-4-1-2 that Frank rolled out towards the end of 2020/21, with Canos at wing-back, Fosu in an advanced central midfield role and Mbeumo as an ‘out of position’ striker in a front two.

Fosu was often the makeweight in the 4-3-3, with just 13 starts coming before the Championship equivalent of Gameweek 41, when the Brentford boss switched to a wing-back system.

Canos was Brentford’s chief chance-creator from open play, with Jensen and Mbeumo’s key pass numbers bolstered by set-piece duties.

His minutes-per-shot average was also even better than that of Toney, although over half of the midfielder’s efforts came from outside the opposition area and just two arrived from inside the six-yard box.

Toney and Mbeumo, by contrast, had 16 and six such close-range efforts respectively.

Mins per shotMins per shot in the boxMins per chance created
Canos28.058.853.4
Mbeumo48.360.155.2
Fosu69.2112.4112.4
Toney28.636.482.2

Canos and Mbeumo are evenly matched for shots in the box and chances created over 2020/21 as a whole but the latter has attracted more pre-season coverage in the FPL world, with his end-of-season run-outs up front alongside Toney and involvement at set plays (including direct free-kicks) two strings to his bow.

In fact, Mbeumo had a poor season overall by his standards after an eye-catching, 15-goal debut campaign; the excellent performances just off Toney in the play-offs coming off the back of some underwhelming displays, with suggestions that long-COVID may have been taking effect.

We haven’t seen much of the wing-back system in pre-season but Mbeumo did score a rocket from the right flank in the 2-2 draw at Manchester United.

THE FORWARDS: IVAN TONEY AND OTHERS

FPL 2021/22 player price guide: Brentford

Three Brentford forwards are listed in FPL but two of them are mere footnotes.

Halil Dervisoglu (£5.5m) spent much of last season out on loan and has featured in only four Brentford games in two years, while only nine of impact substitute Marcus Forss‘s (£5.5m) 39 Championship appearances came from the start.

All the focus, of course, is on Toney.

An eye-catching total of 31 goals and 10 assists – a talismanic goal involvement figure in excess of 50% – was backed up by some promising underlying numbers.

The mid-price forward was placed third in the English second tier for goal attempts (135) and shots in the box (106) but a goal conversion rate of 23% is perhaps just as important given that it trumped those of fellow promoted strikers Patrick Bamford, Aleksandar Mitrovic and Teemu Pukki in the past three seasons.

Toney missed only 10 big chances in 2020/21; Bamford spurned over 30 of those gilt-edged opportunities in the preceding Championship season.

Toney (10) even edged out Mbeumo (nine), Jensen (nine) and Canos (eight) for big chances created last year, suggesting all-round points potential.

Nine of his goals did come from penalties, it must be said; there’ll surely be fewer of those around in the top flight next season.

Returning to RedLightning’s community piece is perhaps a good way to finish off as we adjust our expectations for the 31-goal striker as he prepares to step up in class:

14 of the 31 players who had been among the ten highest scorers of the season in the Championship in 2010-20 did manage to score 10 or more goals for the same team in the Premier League the following season.

The 31 averaged 19.7 goals in gaining promotion from the Championship, but only 8.1 in the next season’s Premier League.

15 of the 31 were new to the Premier League, averaging 9.1 goals each in their first Premier League season.

Leeds were a bit of an exception for a newly promoted club last season and, shorn of the investment that saw the Whites recruit talents like Raphinha and Rodrigo, Brentford likely won’t create as many chances for Toney as Bamford enjoyed at Elland Road.

But while there are understandable reservations about a player who hadn’t even played in the Championship until last season, a clinical talisman even in a low-scoring team – see Glenn Murray in Brighton’s 35-goal 2018/19 campaign – can still easily provide very decent value at £6.5m.

482 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Carlton P
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    El ghazi/B Traore being overlooked??

    1. Sheffield Wednesday
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      I've owned El Ghazi in the past only to see him benched inexplicably on a number of occasions. Never again.

    2. Aubamazette
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      if Grealish leaves El Ghazi becomes a very good option for just 6m on pens and very greedy loves a shot, if not will most likely be rotated with traore

    3. Nate(U)dog(ie)
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      If you're sure he'll play then El Ghazi is a great option, I had him during his two good spells last season, obviously not the same output but he's like Salah in that he's greedy and shoots as often as he can. But if Grealish leaves Villa will probably sign Leon Bailey or someone else so I don't think it's worth it unless they can't close a deal

    4. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      From the BBC:

      Aston Villa will let Dutch winger Anwar El Ghazi, 26, leave for £15m if Roma follow up their interest with a firm offer. (Football Insider)

    5. Stockport Hatter
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      I read on the BBC they’re happy to listen to offers for El Ghazi so I’m not going there. He gave some decent FPL returns last season as well.

      1. Stockport Hatter
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        * Ha! That’ll teach me not to read on!

  2. 1justlookin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Do we expect Grealish to get more FPL points at City than at AVL. I think City... just! But everything went through him at Villa.

    And what impact would this have on Buendia/Watkins if he does leave?

    1. Paqueta Rice
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      More PPM but less minutes!

    2. Snevitz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      3 easy fixtures for Buendia and Watkins then you can offload and assess them across the tough games.
      I wouldn't trust any City players to start regularly except Ederson, Dias and KDB.

  3. 1justlookin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Foes anyone know who WHM play in their 1st Europa league game? Ansy at Lets Talk says its in between GW4 & GW5. Might make us think differently when choosing pur forwards.

    1. FPL Theorist
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      No, the draw isn't until 27 August.

    2. Sheffield Wednesday
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      "Foes" "Ansy" "pur" ?

  4. SADIO SANÉ
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Here it is, the moment you've all been waiting for:

    Martinez (Sanchez)
    TAA Robbo Cancelo Dias (Mitchell)
    Bruno(c) Jota Zaha Trossard B.Traore
    Watkins (Benteke Welbeck)

    1. Paqueta Rice
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      I’m all for breaking the template but I’m not sure on some of your choices myself personally

      1. SADIO SANÉ
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        it could certainly go horribly wrong that's for sure - but if it does I'll just stop playing 😆

    2. Snevitz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      That is the most interesting team I've seen posted on here.
      I can't help liking it although I do think that Jota may struggle for gametime and you are missing Raphinha who I think will be the best value player this season.

      1. SADIO SANÉ
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        thanks, was expecting negativity all-round 😀 I'll most likely be WCing around GW4 so Raph will be on the radar for sure!

        1. Snevitz
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Obviously you need things to go your way with LIV & MCY cleansheets and a strong start from BRI & CPL but I like that you have squad that you can rotate based on fixtures and Benteke and Wellbeck could offer good value.

          1. SADIO SANÉ
            • 8 Years
            2 years, 8 months ago

            yeah I think Tekkers and Welbz are being overlooked based on previous perceptions but they both did quite well last season and are super cheap

      2. Amartey Partey
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        What is the reasoning behind Raphina being a better option than Harrison?

        1. Bushwhacker
          • 4 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Far better player?

    3. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Don't love it tbh. But refreshing to see something different. Could turn out to be genius!

      1. SADIO SANÉ
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        it probably won't be genius but it's worth a shot 😀

    4. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Zaha could well be on pens this season. Mili is I suspect at best 50/50 to start once week 1 is done and Gallagher becomes available.

      I'd be much more optimistic if Eze was fit but I'm not sure how many points you'll get from 100% GI with Tekkers and Zaha especially if week 2 goes south.

      I'm guessing Brighton will buy a forward and put Welbeck out of the equation - thought I read he was crocked anyway.

      1. SADIO SANÉ
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        hmm didn't know about any Welbeck injury - obviously finalisation will depend on flags etc. - think Palace are going to tear Brentford a new one

    5. gaurava1216
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Auto pick gone heavy at the back... interesting

      one of the worse teams i have seen yet

      1. SADIO SANÉ
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        auto pick 😆 😆 😆

    6. Wolverine
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Logged in to say how bad it was....

      You seem to be missing Walcott and Townsend?

      1. gaurava1216
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Same lol..

        SHOCKING team

      2. SADIO SANÉ
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        if you actually think Benteke and Welbeck are bad value picks then I have no hope for you

        1. Wolverine
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Isolated they may not be bad value picks but you've doubled up on their teams from an attacking point of view...its Brighton and Palace???!

          Forgetting the attacking perspective side of things, you've also then got Mitchell and sanchez...so you've tripled on Brighton and Palace...where are you expecting those 2 teams to finish in the league respectively?

          And then you've got b.traore who's not even a guaranteed starter.

          Jota in isolation could be an incredible pick but it's a risk in itself not having salah so to add that fun risk of picking jota which may pay off to all of the above, is just a bit too crazy for me.

          The best I can give you is that you've manage to get a half decent defence out of it....even then cancelo could be prone to some rotation

          1. SADIO SANÉ
            • 8 Years
            2 years, 8 months ago

            they are playing Watford and Brentford in GW2, I'm expecting them both to win comfortably - I could very easily be wrong. I don't really care where they finish in the league. I have no problem switching Traore to Buendia/El Ghazi nearer the time.

            1. Wolverine
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              2 years, 8 months ago

              Buendia looks a better shout.

              12 of your 15 players are from 4 teams too btw...too many eggs in the same few baskets perhaps?

              You also have no players beyond 8m except Bruno so not only are you missing big hitters, you've kind off cut off the next tier of players in mahrez, havertz, sancho, foden, grealish, dcl, ings, vardy etc.

              I'm all for teams being a bit different but would've been more excited if different meant auba or kdb as your heavy hitter/s and some of the aforementioned players who are capable of getting 2 or 3 attacking returns in isolated matches

              I wish you luck though

              1. SADIO SANÉ
                • 8 Years
                2 years, 8 months ago

                My rough plan is Bruno -> KDB for GW2 so it will be 15 players from 5 teams 😆 Yeah I’m not too bothered about that lot, I do think Havertz is a great pick though, maybe one for the WC - thanks for the luck anyway, good luck to you too!

                1. Amartey Partey
                  • 4 Years
                  2 years, 8 months ago

                  I wouldn’t want to lose Bruno for Southampton away. He could easily get big big points in that game.

    7. Fish up a tree
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Welbeck is scrapping the barrel. Palace will be RANK too!

      1. SADIO SANÉ
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        I hope he manages to recycle it properly

    8. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      A bit like a Hayden Christensen Star Wars movie. I was waiting in anticipation for those too.

      1. SADIO SANÉ
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        😆

    9. i am jose mourinho
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Finally Zaha

    10. kobewan
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      I like this triple Palace set up, Vieira wants to be more attacking..

    11. Nate(U)dog(ie)
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      I like the Zaha pick, saw someone else with him the other day and he always seems to perform when the transfer window is open and is playing in a team that will be more attacking now so I think for the early weeks it could pay off. I didn't like Jota as a pick for a while but seeing Brazil continue to progress at the Olympics it means that I can't see Firmino being available for a week or two so I think it might work out. I do think you have too much money at the back, or if you're intent on spending it at least spread it around other teams a bit. Like Trossard but I got burned with him a few times last season myself where he barely played so not for me but if I was confident of him playing then I think he's worth a punt. Not keen on triple Palace either but never know how things could turn out

    12. MYNAMEISBigtopmark.sman
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      It's only when you see stuff like this that you can fully appreciate how good the template really is. Thank you

    13. MYNAMEISBigtopmark.sman
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      I look at this steaming pile of !@#$% and think dang, maybe I should take trent, Watkins and jota out of my team.

    14. MYNAMEISBigtopmark.sman
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      I feel like you have to look at this 'team' over and over to fully appreciate how bad it is. Every time I go back, I see something new I dont like. Well played

    15. MYNAMEISBigtopmark.sman
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      If someone challenged me to make the worst possible team in fpl, I would reference this as my baseline and go from there

    16. MYNAMEISBigtopmark.sman
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      This team is the lovechild of Mikel artetas arsenal and Jose Mourinhos final season in charge of Chelsea

    17. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      I think in certain cases, teams like this can be a sign that someone is just totally bored with playing FPL & is trying to inject excitement by going for off the wall formations & players to start

      Ends in disaster more often than not, but not always!

  5. 1justlookin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    How donwe think BHA will line up at the back?

    Veltman, Webster, Duffy, Dunk, Burn ?

    1. FPL Theorist
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      March should be back in at LWB unless someone new is signed.

      Potter hates Duffy and won't start him unless he has no other options.

  6. dunas_dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    A Robertson Manquillo ( as below)
    B Shaw Digne

    Sanchez
    TAA Coufal Robertson*
    Salah Bruno Raphinha Buendia
    Antonio Watkins Toney

    Foster Ayling Brownhill Manquillo*

    1. Werner Bremen
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      B

    2. Dynamic Duos
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      B

    3. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      B

    4. John Irish
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Nice team .... I would stick to A as you do not have to tinker too much. Troare from Aston Villa in appearing on peoples radar and may be a swap for Buendia leaving you 0.5 mil to upgrade Coufal if you need Shaw or Digne .... but I do like A

      1. Fletch69
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        A. Another good team here.

        I like Brandon Williams for the 4.0m defender. Talk is he is going out on loan to a premiership team once Trippier is signed so may get some.minutes.

    5. kobewan
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Seems like template to me. I've seen a lot of drafts like this with Shaw and Digne, only difference are with the fwd slot with some going with Nacho instead of Antonio

  7. Lovren an elevator
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    How long is Rashford likely to be out for with his shoulder surgery?

    1. Dynamic Duos
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      12 weeks

      1. Fletch69
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Fingers crossed the surgeon doesn't miss the spot

    2. kobewan
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      until October was reported

  8. phil_whites11
    • 14 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Anyone know how I can buy Ben Crellins spreadsheet?

    1. Simon69
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Darkweb

    2. korbendallas82
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Through Fantasy Football Hub atleast.

      1. korbendallas82
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Not sire this year, so should check first of course. Should get info from his Twitter.

    3. SpaceCadet
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Araknet

  9. Daghe Munegu
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    What would you change ?

    Sanchez
    TAA Robbo Shaw Digne
    Salah Bruno Raphina
    DCL Watkins Toney

    Foster Brownhill Gilmour Manquillo

    1. Chandler Bing
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Very template. Wouldn't change a lot here tbh.

    2. Fletch69
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Good team that, should do well

    3. Jrot94
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      I personally wanted one more playing defender. So I went tierney/reguillon (who rotate well early) over robbo/4.0. That gives me an extra live bench player and allows me to go from toney to. 7.5 (I like Antonio)

    4. kobewan
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Templete, I fancy Manquillo will dropping value with the amount of owners he has,

  10. pingissimus
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Is Noble expected to get any game time much this season? If so does that make Rice a 5.0 potential pen taker?

    The 4.5 cupboard is bare right now - wondering if he's an outside shot of a 5.0 returner?

    1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Don't know about Noble's game time but I'd imagine that he won't play much.
      Both Rice and Antonio took pens last season. So that makes Rice one of the best 5.0 mids. I think Nathan Tella could be very good also.

      1. pingissimus
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        A Southampton know nothing here - is Tella nailed? Kind of crucial at that price point.

        1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
          • 7 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Honestly no idea if he is nailed (should have added that) But he is young and looks like big talent to my eyes.

          1. Fletch69
            • 2 Years
            2 years, 8 months ago

            Hojberg might be worth a shout. He's much more attacking for Denmark and strated to show that for Spurs at the end of last season

        2. FPL Theorist
          • 4 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Doubt it. If they play the XI shown in the Predicted Line-Ups against good opposition (instead of JWP/Romeu DM which probably means Armstrong farther forward), they are asking for trouble.

          1. Fletch69
            • 2 Years
            2 years, 8 months ago

            JWP may be on his way to Villa, worth waiting to see

            1. pingissimus
              • 5 Years
              2 years, 8 months ago

              JWP to Villa as part of the falling dominoes would be devastating for Southampton

              1. Nate(U)dog(ie)
                • 3 Years
                2 years, 8 months ago

                Yeah they struggled a lot last season, if JWP goes I'd heavily tip them for relegation

            2. FPL Theorist
              • 4 Years
              2 years, 8 months ago

              (checks Saints fixtures to see who to get in for captain choices)

    2. Nate(U)dog(ie)
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Doubt he'll play much at all honestly, only if they're stuck. I have Rice currently as my enabler, should be on pens from what happened / what Moyes said last season, plays every game and essentially 90 mins every game and poses a threat from setpieces. If you can afford the extra 0.5 from a 4.5mid I think he'll be worth it

      1. pingissimus
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Yep

        Rice is now interesting me a lot. Likely to have 0.5 somewhere and it could be a choice between a goalie upgrade, o.5 itb or him over a dubious 4.5 mid.

  11. MGMT
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Thinking Fraser could be gold @5.5M this year. Looked great in all friendlies, and we already know what he is capable of with Wilson. Nailed, has set-pieces and a very nice goal threat for his price. Might pick him over ESR to start

    1. MGMT
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      + 0.2% ownership

      1. Fish up a tree
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        For a reason

    2. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      How nailed is he?
      Didn't play a lot last season but maybe it was mostly injury related?

    3. SADIO SANÉ
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      could work yeah, no idea on nailedness

    4. korbendallas82
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      I had almost forgotten the ex Bournemouth relationship.

  12. Fish up a tree
    • 2 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Is anyone ditching Bruno for Sancho to free up wedge?

    1. Chandler Bing
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Was heavily contemplating this but might just stick with Bruno at the start. Proven talent and I really like the 5.5-7M price bracket you can couple with Bruno - plenty of options to hop on to.

    2. kobewan
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Some are in the wait and see, if Ole is going to set up Bruno a lot deeper same as last part of the season, Some might get on the Sancho Train

  13. Chandler Bing
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    With Young signed, is Target's starting prospects at risk? Cash a safer bet perhaps?

    1. Walter White (WW)
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      He is supposed to be a back up for Targett but yeah, Targett is now a rotation risk. Mings is probably the safest option.

      Cash isn’t a bad pick either for nailedness

      1. Chandler Bing
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks. Think I prefer Cash to Mings if they're both nailed given his history of attacking returns.

      2. Fletch69
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Yep, dropped my Villa defender out for the start until it's clear.

  14. EgyptianKing
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Lads which combo you think it’s better (as starting 11 players):

    A) Bissaka; Coufal; Buendia

    B) Robertson; Fofana (or other 4.5 def); ESR

    Cheers!!

    1. Chandler Bing
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      If all 3 have to play each week, A for sure.

      Wouldn't want to start with ESR against Chelsea and City after GW1. Fofana's GW2 fixture against WHU is also not the best.

      1. EgyptianKing
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Think I agree. B is just me trying to fit TAA + Robbo in my team I guess lol

        1. Fletch69
          • 2 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Went double Liverpool defence last year, never again.....

          1. Fletch69
            • 2 Years
            2 years, 8 months ago

            Having said that, Trippier is going to Utd, might mean some rotation for AWB

          2. Paqueta Rice
            • 3 Years
            2 years, 8 months ago

            Why not? Two highest scoring defenders ?

            1. Fletch69
              • 2 Years
              2 years, 8 months ago

              First half of the season was poor, so wildcarded out at Xmas, just in time for them to start scoring points.

  15. Werner Bremen
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Who do you value more -

    A Son and Sancho

    B Bruno and Robbo

    1. Dynamic Duos
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      C? Son and Robbo + 2m

    2. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      B

    3. Ramsays Raw Steak
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Idk brain hurts

    4. kobewan
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      B

  16. Dynamic Duos
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    14 days

  17. Dynamic Duos
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Best 2 5m defenders? Reguilon and Tierney?

    1. lilmessipran
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Coufal and Dunk right up there as well imo

      1. Werner Bremen
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        This

        1. Fletch69
          • 2 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Definitely Coufal, maybe with Mings or Dunk

    2. Werner Bremen
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Everybody sleeping on Doherty

      1. Bushwhacker
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Well Nuno did let him go . . .

  18. sirmorbach
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    What do you say, friends?

    Meslier / 4.0
    TAA / Digne / Shaw / Coufal / _________
    Salah / Bruno / Raphinha / Buendía / _________
    Bamford  / Watkins / 4.5

    A. Stones, Brownhill
    B. White, Mbeumo

    1. Dynamic Duos
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      B

      1. sirmorbach
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Cheers!

    2. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      B

      1. sirmorbach
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Thank you, sir!

    3. DIMITRIS
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      B

      1. sirmorbach
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Much appreciated!

    4. Ramsays Raw Steak
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Niether 🙁

  19. 1912 F.A Cup Winners
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Off topic but…..Amazing for Jonny Brownlee to finally get a gold!!!!

    1. Fletch69
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      And without his brother to give him a piggyback

      1. 1912 F.A Cup Winners
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Haha makes it even more impressive!!!

  20. tom66
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Current team. Any suggestions?

    Sanchez
    Shaw / Cresswell / Fofana
    Bruno / Buendia / Maddi / Salah / Saka
    Antonio / DCL
    (Guaita / Coady / Ayling / Toney)

    Saka > Raphinha in WK2

    1. Ramsays Raw Steak
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Why toney if u bench him
      Upgrade innit thats raw

  21. Werner Bremen
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Everybody sleeping on Doherty 5.0

    1. Simon69
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Fixtures nein gut.

    2. Fish up a tree
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      No he’s rank

    3. 3 A
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Only need 3 defs .

    4. tom66
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Avoiding Spurs WK1

    5. Bushwhacker
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Nuno barely fought to keep him at Wolves . . .

    6. Ramsays Raw Steak
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Lets wait and see if heeeee plays

  22. jdogg
    • 12 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    A son + greenwood +1m
    Or
    B buendia + bruno

    X

    1. tom66
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      B

      1. jdogg
        • 12 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Cheers.x

    2. Ramsays Raw Steak
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      B

  23. Scratch
    • 14 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Assuming Grealish joins City and Abraham gets a move.

    Bachmann, Sanchez
    TAA, Shaw, White, Ayling, Fofana
    Salah, Grealish, Mahrez, Pepe, Raphinha
    Toney, Abraham, Antonio
    £0.5m itb

    1. Ramsays Raw Steak
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Where brunu fernanch

  24. Ramsays Raw Steak
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Rate my team lads

    Henderson

    Reguilón Konaté Walker

    Foden Buendeia Salah Fernandes

    Antonio Iheanacho Calvert-Lewin

    Ward

    Fofana

    Allan

    Manquil

    1. korbendallas82
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Foden had 11 sub - ins last season. Just a heads up.

      1. Ramsays Raw Steak
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Yeah but u know

        1. korbendallas82
          • 10 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Of course. A good player in a good team.

  25. Athletic Nasherbo
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Probably my decision. Benching GW 1, for GW 2 - 4 who has the better fixtures?

    A) Coufal - LEI, CRY, sou

    B) Reguilon/Doherty - wol, WAT, cry

    Cheers!

    1. Ramsays Raw Steak
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      B

    2. Nate(U)dog(ie)
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Arguably B, but Wolves are likely to be more attacking as well as Palace, and while Watford will be in a relegation battle they're still capable of scoring against a lot of teams with someone like Sarr in their team. My worry with West Ham is their really poor defensive displays at the end of last season and if that might carry through to this one.

  26. SpaceCadet
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Best option under 7.5m to complete the mids?

    Salah bruno xxxx raph bissouma
    Dcl Antonio Toney

    1. Bushwhacker
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Barnes or Buendia.

    2. Scratch
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Pepe. Not sure why he isn't fashionable around here. Summer off and on pens.

      1. Holmes
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Could be due to GW2 and 3 plus historically he has not shown consistency yet.

        1. Bushwhacker
          • 4 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Yeah the watchlist video picks him … after a few weeks

    3. LegendMoon
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Buendia or a Bowen punt?

  27. Letsgo!
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Hows this draft

    Sanchez
    White robertson coufal
    Sancho salah son barnes esr
    Antonio watkins

    Subs foster fofana veltman toney

    Gtg?

    1. korbendallas82
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Maby ESR and Toney will give you a benching headache? How often will esr start for you, after gw1? He would end up on the bench alot? 5.5 is value on the field i think. But i would downgrade to bissouma if he is mainly a benchplayer.

      1. korbendallas82
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        But i understand if you keep 5.5 mid to jump on a bandvagon in that pricerange.

        1. Letsgo!
          • 7 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Yeah man plus i think i will play esr esp first game

    2. LegendMoon
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Nice team !! With the username though maybe foster to Gunn ?

    3. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Nice

  28. ToonToon88
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Any constructive feedack for this team?
    Jota might not be nailed but got a feeling he will start well.

    Henderson
    TAA, Stones, Rudiger, Fofana
    Salah, Jota, Mahrez, Bruno
    Watkins, Toney

    Gunn, Gilmour, Obafami, Duffy

    1. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      I think it looks fine. Rudiger nailed?

    2. LegendMoon
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Fofana isn’t nailed either, stones may get a euro rest leaving you playing with 9

    3. Nate(U)dog(ie)
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Think you might need to buff your bench. Obafemi might only get a few minutes here and there with how many forward options Soton have and Duffy is unlikely to play at all I'd say since Potter doesn't seem to like him. I think Jota could start well too with Firmino likely to start late due to the Olympics but like said above I'd just be wary of having 2 City assets that will be rotated (although I think if he nails down that spot next to Dias like he did for a long while last season that Stones is great value) and Fofana who has competition for his place too

  29. House Frey Wedding Planner
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Which is better for the first few fixtures

    A - Son + Mahrez

    B - Bruno + Buendia + 0.5m

    1. LegendMoon
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Very even but if Bruno does well and you haven’t got him it’ll be a rank killer

    2. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      A for me.

    3. Weeb Kakashi
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      I am on A. And have 0.5 ITB just to upgrade Mahrez to Sancho in GW3

    4. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      B

    5. Differential C (Mark)
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      I'm trying to be more pragmatic this season so I'd go B.

  30. Don Van Vliet
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Anyone else have their subscription renewal automatically go through a full week ahead of the stated date on their profile?

    Gone overdrawn as a result (end of the month money shortage). A bit presumptuous to assume I'd be renewing, too...

    1. PastaFasul
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Did not receive any news but apparently I am auto-renewed as a member as well.

    2. 3 A
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Me too, last night.

      1. Cojones of Destiny
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        how do you turn it off i?

        1. Ron_Swanson
          • 13 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Log in and then click on Members Tools (top left menu) and then Members Area. At the top right click on Profile and then scroll down to the auto renewal section and turn off.

          1. Cojones of Destiny
            • 6 Years
            2 years, 8 months ago

            thx

    3. Wild Card this!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      All in Terms and Conditions people usually don’t read.
      Next time it will be kidney guys.
      😉

      1. Don Van Vliet
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Surely if the auto renew date is quoted as [fill in the blank], then that date should be honored? It's misleading -- at the very least -- if not downright deceitful and unethical.

        1. Ron_Swanson
          • 13 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Probably illegal

    4. Arn De Gothia
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      I really don’t know. But plan not to renew do to all gambling sponsors