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An intriguing clash at the Etihad gets the day’s Premier League football underway.

Manchester City v Tottenham Hotspur is Saturday’s 12.30pm BST kick-off, with this fixture being another stern test of the early progress that the visitors have made under Thomas Frank.

The Lilywhites performed admirably in their last encounter against elite opposition, running Paris Saint-Germain mightily close in the UEFA Super Cup. They had been thumped by Bayern Munich a week earlier, however.

Frank, interestingly, doesn’t go with the ‘five at the back’ set-up he used against PSG.

Many, including ourselves, thought Kevin Danso would come in for this fixture, with Brennan Johnson making way. Johnson, however, keeps his place in what looks like a 4-2-3-1/4-3-3.

The two alterations he has made were expected, at least: Joao Palhinha and Rodrigo Bentancur are back after their Gameweek 1 breathers to replace Archie Gray and Lucas Bergvall in midfield.

Richarlison again leads the line, with Dominic Solanke warming the bench.

Pep Guardiola has also made two changes and, like Frank, has gone more attacking than perhaps anticipated.

Rayan Cherki gets his first Premier League start since his summer move, with Omar Marmoush also coming in.

Jeremy Doku and Bernardo Silva drop to the bench.



Tijjani Reijnders may be slightly more curbed than last week, then, but with Rico Lewis inverting into central midfield from right-back, the Dutchman may still get the odd chance to creep forward.

Ederson is back in the squad after missing the win over Wolverhampton Wanderers through illness. He has to settle for a place on the bench, however, as James Trafford starts in goal again.

LINE-UPS

Manchester City XI: Trafford, Lewis, Stones, Dias, Ait-Nouri, Gonzalez, Reijnders, Cherki, Bobb, Marmoush, Haaland.

Subs: Ederson, Ake, Doku, Rodri, Bernardo, Nunes, O’Reilly, Khusanov, Foden.

Tottenham Hotspur XI: Vicario, Porro, Romero, Van de Ven, Spence, Sarr, Bentancur, Palhinha, Kudus, Johnson, Richarlison.

Subs: Kinsky, Danso, Vuskovic, Davies, Gray, Bergvall, Odobert, Tel, Solanke.

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  1. More Tragic
    • 10 Years
    3 months, 22 days ago

    Looking forward to this one

    1. ‘Tis the Season
      • 7 Years
      3 months, 22 days ago

      Ironic..

  2. ‘Tis the Season
    • 7 Years
    3 months, 22 days ago

    Palmer - Gordon
    Fulkrug - Marteta or Larsen?

    1. ‘Tis the Season
      • 7 Years
      3 months, 22 days ago

      Or wood?

      1. Mambino
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        3 months, 22 days ago

        They're all really good options

    2. Haul or Nothing
      • 6 Years
      3 months, 22 days ago

      Mateta a wait n see with Eze moving on?

  3. Pointless
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    3 months, 22 days ago

    Deep-playing Reijnders big sell off tonight?! Triple price drop by next deadline?!

    1. g40steve
      • 7 Years
      3 months, 22 days ago

      He’s 5.5 & avoided Pep roulette

      1. g40steve
        • 7 Years
        3 months, 22 days ago

        Watching last weeks game he often dropped to his box to pick up the ball & start the next attack.

      2. Runnerboy31
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        3 months, 22 days ago

        I don’t think we can say he avoided Pep roulette after two matches … particularly when Rodri and Foden arent fully fit yet

    2. Sheffield Wednesday
      • 5 Years
      3 months, 22 days ago

      "Jeremy Doku and Bernardo Silva drop to the bench." was music to my ears. Had Reijnders from the start and quite happy to keep as long as he gets starts, given his price.

  4. Brosstan
    • 11 Years
    3 months, 22 days ago

    Haaland's first season I didnt own him but I earned quite a lot of money betting on him to score (or score 2+ games if the opposition was bad) every game to hedge against FPL results. He was a machine.

    Is this season another ~1 goal per game season for him?

    1. Mambino
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 months, 22 days ago

      No, he scored two last week

      1. Brosstan
        • 11 Years
        3 months, 22 days ago

        😀

        1. Mambino
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          3 months, 22 days ago

          😉

  5. JT11fc
    • 7 Years
    3 months, 22 days ago

    Reijnders this, Marmoush that, Cherki is the one to watch me thinks

    1. Haa-lala-land
      • 5 Years
      3 months, 22 days ago

      I think Bobb is the answer

      1. Mambino
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        3 months, 22 days ago

        Bobb is mint

      2. JT11fc
        • 7 Years
        3 months, 22 days ago

        Decent shout too

    2. Ask Yourself
      • 9 Years
      3 months, 22 days ago

      The benefit with reijnders is his role in the team is way more nailed than any winger or attacking midfielder

      1. JT11fc
        • 7 Years
        3 months, 22 days ago

        True but once Rodri is fit he might be a rotation risk also

        1. The Mentaculus
          • 4 Years
          3 months, 22 days ago

          Not really. Nico is playing Rodri's role

          1. JT11fc
            • 7 Years
            3 months, 22 days ago

            Hmm, if he start the next 4 and scores 2 Ill throw my hands up and consider him for wc 6

            1. The Mentaculus
              • 4 Years
              3 months, 22 days ago

              I don't have him yet either actually but I think he'll be relatively nailed

          2. Runnerboy31
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 4 Years
            3 months, 22 days ago

            Rodri, Silva, Gonzalez and Reijnders.. 4 into 2. He may well be a strong first choice but we can’t conclude yet he is nailed.

            1. Chris_l25
              • 8 Years
              3 months, 22 days ago

              And Gundo

              1. Runnerboy31
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 4 Years
                3 months, 22 days ago

                Gundo likely leaving

              2. g40steve
                • 7 Years
                3 months, 22 days ago

                He’s too old not a shadow of old

    3. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 11 Years
      3 months, 22 days ago

      Totally agree

  6. Zenith UK
    • 9 Years
    3 months, 22 days ago

    If I wanted a membership, I'd have one, now do one with that poxy pop-up!!!

    1. have you seen cyan
      • 6 Years
      3 months, 22 days ago

      Go on, treat yourself, you deserve it!

    2. OverTinker
      • 7 Years
      3 months, 22 days ago

      i can build a small extension just to avoid this pop-up

  7. Stranger Mings
    • 5 Years
    3 months, 22 days ago

    Wanted to sell palmer to fund haaland but v difficult now as 14.1. What r non halland / palmer owners doing?

    1. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 11 Years
      3 months, 22 days ago

      Waiting to hear he's definitely out

    2. Pornchef
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 22 days ago

      Palmer gotta go anyone who waits is falling behind

      1. Ajax Hamsterdam
        • 11 Years
        3 months, 22 days ago

        Why ?

        1. Pornchef
          • 1 Year
          3 months, 22 days ago

          He's been in poor form and is carrying an injury that needs to be assessed and you need to be proactive in FPL use the funds to jump on other players and improve your team like everyone else

          1. Runnerboy31
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 4 Years
            3 months, 22 days ago

            Actually being “proactive” can often hurt as much as help in this game. Patience is key. “Proactivity” is those who sold Joao Pedro last week …

            1. faux_C
              • 13 Years
              3 months, 22 days ago

              It's a key mistake to undervalue information at this stage of the season in favour of chasing bandwagons

            2. Pornchef
              • 1 Year
              3 months, 22 days ago

              Completely different scenarios one is a 7.5m fwd who isn't injured and isn't the second most expensive midfielder in the game that was reactive behaviour dropping Pedro for blanking one game when you need to be proactive in FPL and dump Palmer

              1. Runnerboy31
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 4 Years
                3 months, 22 days ago

                Palmer might well be a sell, but I’m highly dubious of anyone who uses the word proactive. It’s normally code for I’ll sell players regularly on a Saturday or Sunday night without complete information and will describe the inevitable hits as “aggressive”. This generalisation might not hold for you.

    3. g40steve
      • 7 Years
      3 months, 22 days ago

      Moneys tight sometimes you got to just go for it

  8. Pornchef
    • 1 Year
    3 months, 22 days ago

    Brentford are unbeaten in their first top flight home game for 9 years

    1. FPL Blow-In
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 months, 22 days ago

      Watkins C here

      1. FPL Scoop
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 months, 22 days ago

        Ditto

    2. chocolove
      • 15 Years
      3 months, 22 days ago

      This time without frank

  9. Vasshin
    • 6 Years
    3 months, 22 days ago

    Is there any App that does Audio streaming of Primer league games besides talksports?

    Sometime talksports isn’t available in my area

    1. faux_C
      • 13 Years
      3 months, 22 days ago

      BBC Sounds

  10. FPL Scoop
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 months, 22 days ago

    Need a huuuge Haaland (and RAN, Reijnders, etc) sized sofa this afternoon with no City.

    Here’s hoping for a Kudus and Porro masterclass, and Spurs holding City to nil… 😆

    1. el polako
      • 8 Years
      3 months, 22 days ago

      Only RAN here for me, most worried about the new 5.5m Zidane.

  11. JoeSoap
    • 12 Years
    3 months, 22 days ago

    Where do I find the most recent articles? I found this article via comments on home page but which heading is this article under?

    1. g40steve
      • 7 Years
      3 months, 22 days ago

      I found this the latest article has disappeared!

      Just open FFS fresh & it appears on the left, F’in annoying

    2. JoeSoap
      • 12 Years
      3 months, 22 days ago

      Thanks

  12. have you seen cyan
    • 6 Years
    3 months, 22 days ago

    Diouf is going to be Robinson Mark 2. Great attacking threat, but horrendous defence. Which makes him a 3/4 point merchant at best. Some games it will be 0 or -1 given how horrendous West Ham are. Its a shame these players don't play in good defences or they would be great picks. Really surprised no club went in for Robinson, if Pool didn't get Kerkez, 100% they would have got Robinson.

    1. Runnerboy31
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 months, 22 days ago

      But if he was in a better team he wouldn’t be 4.5m

      1. have you seen cyan
        • 6 Years
        3 months, 22 days ago

        They'd still be cheapish though. Probably 5, maybe 5.5 and they would out perform that.

    2. Deulofail
      • 9 Years
      3 months, 22 days ago

      I think 110%, probably

      1. have you seen cyan
        • 6 Years
        3 months, 22 days ago

        That was funny dude. You said 110%, but that's not possible, that's why its funny.

    3. chocolove
      • 15 Years
      3 months, 22 days ago

      Robinson has more reliable defense teammates than Diouf

      1. have you seen cyan
        • 6 Years
        3 months, 22 days ago

        For sure, but 5 cs last seaosn for Fulham was pretty shocking.

        1. chocolove
          • 15 Years
          3 months, 22 days ago

          Most of it conceded for 1 goal only. Cmiiw

  13. F4L
    • 11 Years
    3 months, 22 days ago

    surprised frank didnt go with 3 CBs. maybe he wont use it that often

  14. Tomerick
    • 11 Years
    3 months, 22 days ago

    Pep is laughing at everyone who dropped Marmoush and/or Cherki.

  15. TafOnTour1
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 1 Year
    3 months, 22 days ago

    James Trafford a viable option at 5m?! Back-to-back starts now!

    1. F4L
      • 11 Years
      3 months, 22 days ago

      once the window shuts and if he starts next gw, yea

    2. FPL Blow-In
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 months, 22 days ago

      5m for Lewis too who also has back to back starts

  16. Glasner Ball
    • 13 Years
    3 months, 22 days ago

    El Khannouss not involved for Leicester match today, wonder if it means hes close to joining us.

    1. Haa-lala-land
      • 5 Years
      3 months, 22 days ago

      He's quite good, but really not as good as he thinks he is.

      1. Glasner Ball
        • 13 Years
        3 months, 22 days ago

        Cheers, yeah does seems many of our fanbase are unsure/undecided about him - interesting to see what happens. If there was not any speculation do you think he would of started today?

        1. Haa-lala-land
          • 5 Years
          3 months, 22 days ago

          He's definitely first team in the Leicester XI. He is quite good, but not really Premier league ready. He probably should stay put in the Championship for a year but he's keen for a move upward.

  17. Shark Team
    • 8 Years
    3 months, 22 days ago

    2 things before the game starts:
    - People see 4 atb but forget how strong Frank’s Brentford were against City, expect Tottenham to defend well
    - Cherki’s end product is one of the best in the league, if he becomes as close as regular starter as possible then he’s essential at 6.5

  18. F4L
    • 11 Years
    3 months, 22 days ago

    on that through ball from haaland just then, is that an interception or ball recovery from Romero?

  19. Stoic
    • 9 Years
    3 months, 22 days ago

    Rudolph has aura borealis

    1. Tomerick
      • 11 Years
      3 months, 22 days ago

      Can I see it?

      1. Stoic
        • 9 Years
        3 months, 22 days ago

        As a non owner, I hope you don’t

    2. el polako
      • 8 Years
      3 months, 22 days ago

      Is it contagious?

  20. Brosstan
    • 11 Years
    3 months, 22 days ago

    Haaland racking up the DCs 🙂

  21. F4L
    • 11 Years
    3 months, 22 days ago

    haaland lucky to avoid yc

    1. F4L
      • 11 Years
      3 months, 22 days ago

      *very. just the typical no early yellow card unwritten rule lol

      1. Philosopher's Stones
        • 5 Years
        3 months, 22 days ago

        Especially to PGMOL's sponsors like City

    2. Bigbars
      • 14 Years
      3 months, 22 days ago

      dont you just hate that... YC is a yellow card regardless if its min1 or min 90... and yes i have haaland in my team, just a fair observation

  22. Tomerick
    • 11 Years
    3 months, 22 days ago

    Where’s my Haaland goals?

  23. Deulofail
    • 9 Years
    3 months, 22 days ago

    James Trafford looks like Shia LaBeouf with Ben White's barber

  24. Bollard
    • 13 Years
    3 months, 22 days ago

    Guys - what’s the best iPhone app to get live goal and assist notifications?

    1. Philosopher's Stones
      • 5 Years
      3 months, 22 days ago

      It's 2025, mate. Boasting about an iphone is not a thing anymore.

    2. x.jim.x
      • 11 Years
      3 months, 22 days ago

      Fotmob

      1. Bollard
        • 13 Years
        3 months, 22 days ago

        Thanks

  25. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 15 Years
    3 months, 22 days ago

    Marmoush looking like a point to prove today

  26. The Bandit
    • 15 Years
    3 months, 22 days ago

    RAN down

    1. panda07
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 months, 22 days ago

      the stairs?

      1. ‘Tis the Season
        • 7 Years
        3 months, 22 days ago

        The clock?

    2. Gizzachance
      • 11 Years
      3 months, 22 days ago

      Looks ok now

  27. Royal5
    • 14 Years
    3 months, 22 days ago

    Nouri dead ffs

  28. Bobby Digital
    • 8 Years
    3 months, 22 days ago

    RAN down, doesn't look good

  29. F4L
    • 11 Years
    3 months, 22 days ago

    reijnders is still pretty advanced, box crashing still enabled

  30. Deulofail
    • 9 Years
    3 months, 22 days ago

    Nooo I can't hVE ANOTHER INJURY WHILE i'M TRYING TO fh

    Oops caps, but apt