634x258 The Knee Jerk
25 August 2012 4484 comments
Mark Mark
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Has a stitched Wayne Rooney made things simple? Have we already got the template attacking lineup? Certainly Robin Van Persie’s goal, coupled with the injury to Rooney that looks to have sidelined him for a month, suggests that the source of attacking points at United is settled. Unless, of course, you’re committing to the slick trickery of Shinji Kagawa over Van Persie’s pure goal power.

City’s Carlos Tevez surely has another spot up front reserved for him and, while Fernando Torres is doing his upmost to cling to our affections, Eden Hazard’s irresistible form surely means that we have a preferred route to Chelsea’s flowing attacking points.

After just two weeks, a combination of Van Persie, Tevez and Hazard appears to give the very best coverage of potentially the three most potent teams in the league.

You can argue around this – Kagawa, Samir Nasri and Torres all offer the alternatives but, right now, while these words are typed, I’m struggling to see past this new holy trinity as the most powerful combination.

Throw in Michu, Steven Pienaar or Mauroanne Fellaini – perhaps dabble with Danny Graham up front while Swansea’s fixtures remain favourable, or even Emmanuel Adebayor to cover Tottenham’s attacking threat, and the template after Gameweek 2 begins to look solid.

As we discussed in the ScoutCast this week, there will be new names emerging that will threaten to break the ideas we have now but, in all honesty, it’s difficult to see Van Persie, Tevez and Hazard being anything other than season keepers; barring injury.

It can’t really be that simple and yet the twist of fate that saw Rooney first benched and then stretchered down the tunnel, almost rubber-stamped matters. There will surely be thousands scrambling for Van Perise, even more suitors for Hazard after another bout or returns from this evening’s victory. Meanwhile, Tevez has Liverpool in his sights tomorrow with a clear run of appearances while Sergio Aguero recuperates.

If you currently sit on all three, congratulations; please fight back the smugness. If you’ve none of the above, cling to the hope that there’s naivety in these words and that these power houses will falter. Either that, or scrub up for some serious squad surgery.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Parm
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    • 14 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    Looks like I'll be carrying the new Fernando Torres....

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    1. Heisenberg:Crystal Meth Pal…
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      It's so tempting to ship him for RVP (with no Rooney)

      ...but you can't deny 2 goals in consecutive games, lone striker with Hazard teeing him up with assists and qpr, STO, ars, NOR after his blank

      Can't make my mind up!

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      1. Title20
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        13 years, 3 months ago

        i was still half asleep and already did that transfer this morning....may be good or bad

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    2. daisybcfc
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      13 years, 3 months ago

      Im tempted to ship due to hard fixtures from now til GW14/15. dont have 2 decent weeks in a row til Nov/Dec

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  2. Christina.
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    13 years, 3 months ago

    Ba vs Villa? Tempted.

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    1. The Bandit
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      13 years, 3 months ago

      he was terible tonight, but then again so are Villa

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      1. Christina.
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        13 years, 3 months ago

        I know, but Barfa/Ba should do well vsVILLA/eve/NOR/read

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      2. Kostja
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        13 years, 3 months ago

        was unlucky not to score dough, got denied by a wonder save by cech in the end

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        1. The Bandit
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          13 years, 3 months ago

          It was an ok save, Ba didn't get enough on it otherwise Cech would (and should) have had no chance...

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    2. VougieDipond
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      13 years, 3 months ago

      I am oing that route trust him more than adebayor

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  3. Sir_Dunc
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    13 years, 3 months ago

    Do I need RVP with this forward line?

    Yaya Kagawa Hazard Pienaar Michu

    Torres Tevez Graham

    RVP is giving me such a headache!!!!

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    1. Redalert
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      13 years, 3 months ago

      Yes.you have hazard for Chelsea cover. Downgrade yaya and upgrade torres.

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    2. Park the bus
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      i would say no,

      as of GW 4 i should have:

      Ben Arfa Hazard Pienaar Bale
      Tevez Torres Graham

      no MU attacking cover - a bit worried about this but could easily do Bale > Kagawa & Torres > Ade

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  4. Corrigan
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    13 years, 3 months ago

    mmm credit to Torres but I don't trust him with the armband.

    qpr

    sou WIG

    RVP for me

    Hazard will be enough Chelsea from GW4

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    1. Parm
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Torres (c) GW5 home to Stoke.

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      1. Corrigan
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        13 years, 3 months ago

        I'll cross that bridge should I get to it

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  5. Stevee10001
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    13 years, 3 months ago

    oh god even gary is at it 2hazardous business!"

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  6. Heisenberg:Crystal Meth Pal…
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    Should I:

    1. N'Zog -> Kagawa (or Barfa?)

    2. Torres -> RVP

    3. Take 4pt hit and do both

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    1. Give The Todd Some Love
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      1

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  7. Hiphopopotamus
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    • 15 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    How many games (non-Premier) has Hazard got until he plays in GW4?

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  8. George Agdgdgwngo
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    13 years, 3 months ago

    Pretty much decided to WC tonight. Wanted to do it gw3, but ny wife is due to give birth around Sept 10th, can't imagine fpl will be allowed in the hospital.

    Is the wc right now?

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    1. DRIZ ✅
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      congrats

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    2. VougieDipond
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Good luck with your new family addition when he/she arrives. Congrats

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      1. George Agdgdgwngo
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        13 years, 3 months ago

        Nevermind that. Shall I wc

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  9. equagraine
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    13 years, 3 months ago

    really annoyed i've had to transfer hazard in to catch the prise rise.

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    1. DRIZ ✅
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      13 years, 3 months ago

      he will go down

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      1. Sir_Dunc
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        will he?

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      2. Redalert
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        13 years, 3 months ago

        Not a hope.

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  10. Twelve years a slave
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    13 years, 3 months ago

    cant decide whether to get ade for torres or keep torres and lose ivanovich

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    1. Kostja
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      13 years, 3 months ago

      IMO, Torres is just not good, dont get fooled by todays performance, that toe poke could have gone anywhere, just remember the DGW- he was very lucky to get anything there.

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      1. Somalion
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        13 years, 3 months ago

        Disagree completely. Ball was hit with outside of the foot, no toe poke. Had moments of very nice play, some moments where he showed he was lacking his speed too. Solid performance from him though.

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        1. SouthCoastSaint
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          13 years, 3 months ago

          +1 Chelsea looked superb. Torres did what strikers are paid to do, i.e. score

          He also scored last week....credit where credit is due

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    2. Sir_Dunc
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      13 years, 3 months ago

      Im keeping Torres. Decided Ade is lacking match fitness.

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  11. Bezz82
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    13 years, 3 months ago

    Will Hazard go up in price two nights on the run?

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  12. Granville
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    • 16 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    Fernando Toebung

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    1. The Bandit
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      13 years, 3 months ago

      Lemon sucker.. 😉

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    2. sy
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      They all count!

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    3. Parm
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Nothing wrong with a good old fashioned toe punt.

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      1. chinmusic
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 3 months ago

        There's no call for that sort of rhyming slang

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    4. Alan The Llama
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      lol

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    5. VougieDipond
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      13 years, 3 months ago

      much better than missing the goal or the ball like last season

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  13. Voice of the Mysterons
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    Doing 1 sub, can't decide between Pinaar or Felani, who would u go for?

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    1. DRIZ ✅
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      stevie p

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    2. daisybcfc
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      13 years, 3 months ago

      Peinaar

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      1. Voice of the Mysterons
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 3 months ago

        I was leaning toward Pienaar but everyone seems to be transferring Fellani in

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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          • 16 Years
          13 years, 3 months ago

          Who do you really want?

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          1. Voice of the Mysterons
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 3 months ago

            I wanted Mata over Hazard and look at that decision? Dam it.
            I want Pienaar over Fellani but don't wanna make same mistake

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  14. Give The Todd Some Love
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    Oh dear. My knee be jerking.

    Took an 8 point hit to do Rooney/Lamps/Bent --> RvP/Barfa/Jelly

    Why? Just why?

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    1. The Bandit
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      13 years, 3 months ago

      Good moves imo

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      1. Give The Todd Some Love
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        13 years, 3 months ago

        I know but 8 points just seems too much

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        1. The Bandit
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          13 years, 3 months ago

          Two of them will not play...

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  15. SSJTevez
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    Ok here's my current team:

    de Gea [Green]
    A Cole Zabaleta Hangeland Harte Nelsen
    Michu Lampard Kagawa Yaya Noble
    Tevez Torres Pog

    As you can tell, I screwed up re. Chelsea/Reading players. Aguero being injured in GW1 didn't help, taking up my FT.

    I was thinking:

    Torres > Ade, and Lampard > Bale. Then assuming there are no injuries, bring in Hazard for Yaya in GW4?

    That would be a 4 point hit, which isn't too bad, but Nelsen is unlikely to play at all which leaves me with only 10 starters, is it worth me swapping him for the likes of Demel to ensure I have a starter at the expense of an 8 point hit? Or just play with 10 with a 4 point hit?

    All input appreciated.

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    1. stuart_vw540
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      I'd go with play 10, any more than a 4pt hit is madness, you never make it back, trust me, I learnt my lesson last year, in fact very few of my 4pt hits ever payed off either

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  16. Tmel
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    Lamps to Kagawa or Michu for my FT this week? Have Dyer, Graham & RVP. Head says Kagawa but Swansea’s run of good fixtures is longer and the price rise will be so meaty

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    1. stuart_vw540
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Depends on rest of team, but I would go for Kagawa for man u cover

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  17. The Bandit
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    13 years, 3 months ago

    Remember when Mata was going to be the highest scoring mid of the season and Hazard was a risky noob? Of course you do, it was only just over a week ago. Oh how we laughed at 'that' backheel fail... 🙄

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    1. Royal5
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Tell me about it. Had Hazard until the last day. Then switched to Mata. Afraid of rotation etc. Argh!

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    2. Corrigan
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      It wasn't just the toepunt, though. Hazard was a newcomer that hadn't been playing great.

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    3. xprez
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      • 15 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      i changed Hazard to mata after reading that, got so angry today i changed mata > hazard after game. I WILL NEVER LET YOU GO AGAIN HAZARD!

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    4. Granville
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      I had Hazard but when Spain were knocked out early from the Olympics I went with Mata for the experience. Mistake, but my reasons were good without hindsight. It's cost lots of points. Lots.

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      1. chinmusic
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 3 months ago

        So. Many. Points. This could have been my first really decent start to a season.

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  18. I taught Ashley Young how t…
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    If I only have 9 starters for gameweek 3, is it worth wildcarding now or not?

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    1. Give The Todd Some Love
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Depends how good your remaining players are imo

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      1. I taught Ashley Young how t…
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        13 years, 3 months ago

        How many DGW are there usually in a season?

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        1. Give The Todd Some Love
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 3 months ago

          I think there's usually one big one because of FA cup like last season, but I may be wrong.

          Snow sometimes wrecks havoc during Dec/Jan

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    2. Seanigula
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      no, take a 4 pt hit for an attacker and play 1 defender short (assuming the 9 you have are scoring points)

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  19. Alan The Llama
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    13 years, 3 months ago

    Lawrenson needs a bra

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    1. Syd.
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      13 years, 3 months ago

      Yeah there are a right pair of tits on the sofa

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  20. DRIZ ✅
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    13 years, 3 months ago

    so, can chelsea win the prem?

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    1. VougieDipond
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      13 years, 3 months ago

      if we sign another striker then yes

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      1. Granville
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        • 16 Years
        13 years, 3 months ago

        RVP would have been perfect 😉

        Not sure who though. Cavani is overrated, possibly Llorente, he's good.

        You could end up spending 100m in the transfer window. So much for Abramovich reigning in the spending and bringing players through.

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        1. Royal5
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          13 years, 3 months ago

          Always liked Llorente. Wish Spurs would get him 🙂

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  21. Corrigan
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    13 years, 3 months ago

    Only Cisse played on Thursday...

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    1. Team Hayemaker
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      13 years, 3 months ago

      Pardew is all about the prep though so he hardly got any time to work with todays team

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  22. Razmataz
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    13 years, 3 months ago

    Are any players going up or down in value tonight?

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    1. Granville
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Loads

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  23. Stevee10001
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    13 years, 3 months ago

    hmm lamps for michu/bale/barfa... well pretty much anyone discuss PLEASE!

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    1. DRIZ ✅
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      13 years, 3 months ago

      haza

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    2. Balotellitubbies
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      13 years, 3 months ago

      Michu really does look attacking

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    3. paddym25
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      yes to michu/barfa

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      1. Stevee10001
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 3 months ago

        is barfa really that much of a threat for ncastle as in is he the same kind of threat as michu is for swansea

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    4. VougieDipond
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      13 years, 3 months ago

      don't get Bale. RVP seems to of ruined Spurs even quicker than I thought.

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      1. Give The Todd Some Love
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 3 months ago

        I'm assuming you mean AVB... 😉

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  24. DRIZ ✅
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    13 years, 3 months ago

    buy hazard now? bench him?

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    1. Royal5
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Buy Hazard before a blank? This game is about points not roster value

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    2. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      No.

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  25. Will
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    • 16 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    Got to get rid of Mata, N'zogbia, Taraabt, and not that keen on Pearce, Fox and Fabio in my defence and Pog in my front line.

    So, do I flush them away with a WC?

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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      No. 🙂

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  26. afcblegend
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    13 years, 3 months ago

    oh how I love how ridiculous these assist rules are...

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  27. SouthCoastSaint
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    13 years, 3 months ago

    Can someone explain how Siggy got that assist?

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    1. The Bandit
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      13 years, 3 months ago

      The rules will tell you...

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  28. Razmataz
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    13 years, 3 months ago

    A) pienaar & van persie
    B) bale and any striker (except van persie)

    If B which striker?

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    1. Balotellitubbies
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      13 years, 3 months ago

      A

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    2. DRIZ ✅
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      a

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  29. paddym25
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    So it seems to me that the necessary midfield / attack spine for the season is gonna be:

    hazard / kagawa / michu
    tevez / torres / rvp

    with surrounding punts, this will be my WC team. The time has come.

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    1. Twelve years a slave
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      no tottenham cover|
      #

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      1. paddym25
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 3 months ago

        Yeah, even as a fan I don't have a good feeling about this season under AVB

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    2. DLL18
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      13 years, 3 months ago

      Rest of the team will be sh*t though.

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    3. daisybcfc
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      A Man City midfielder will push their way in, and also Torres and even Hazard will fall out between GW3 and GW14 due to a tough run of fixtures

      RVP and Kagawa will become rotation risks when champions league starts heating up especially with competition from Rooney, Chicorito, Wellbeck, Nani, Valencia, Young.

      Tevez same goes when Aguero is back and Ballotelli and Dzeko snapping at their heels.

      These early Wild Cards are very short sighted and are based in my eyes on price rises. Wait.

      Think before you press the Wild Card button.

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      1. stuart_vw540
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        13 years, 3 months ago

        I agree, early wildcard never pays off long term

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  30. Zep
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    13 years, 3 months ago

    I find it bitterly ironic that I went for Terry over Ivanovic for his perceived extra 'goal threat'.

    To make matters worse he didn't play today, and I now find myself 23 points worse off for the experience...

    As much as it would be nice to have Hazard, Michu et al, I've decided not to chase value this year...

    Will probably wait until next week to switch to Baines; Everton look great this year...

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    1. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Wherever did you get the idea that Terry was a bigger goal threat? Not on here..

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      1. Granville
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        • 16 Years
        13 years, 3 months ago

        Terry 6 goals, Ivanovic 3 goals last season.

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        1. The Bandit
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 3 months ago

          Minutes?

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    2. Granville
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Me too, Terry for the extra goal threat. Just the way the dice rolls sometimes.

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    3. chinmusic
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      There's a huge amount of luck with goalscoring defenders. People got Lescott last season for his goal threat and Kompany outscored him, Hangeland got no goals last season after 4 or 5 the season before. Huth disappointed too. And so on.

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      1. Timmy Cahill Rules
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 3 months ago

        baines isnt about luck

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        1. chinmusic
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 3 months ago

          Baines is about penalties. Stuart Pearce would have been a fantasy god.

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      2. Granville
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        • 16 Years
        13 years, 3 months ago

        I got Lescott last year instead of Kompany and it cost an extra 0.5m. I've gone and done the same thing.

        Terry has the goal threat from corners, no one better IMO.

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