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3 September 2012 2063 comments
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A Gameweek which saw Fantasy managers dealt both the familiar and the unexpected, as a Dutchman shot to prominence and a formerly fragile back four continued to show resilience. We’re now in a two-week limbo, coveting potentially “essential” assets, while failed stars begin to depreciate. There’s plenty to digest…

The Player

It took just two full appearances in a United shirt for Robin Van Persie to turn our Fantasy squads on their heads. A devastating St Mary’s hat-trick hammered home the message that the Dutchman remains every bit as potent in his new surroundings. It also arrived on day that saw Shinji Kagawa provide little evidence that he could be maintained as a supplier of suitable cover within United’s attacking lineup. Factor in the captaincy at home to Wigan next weekend, when both Carlos Tevez and Eden Hazard face tricky away games, and it’s pretty clear that Van Persie’s stock has soared and will go on doing so.

Four goals in two games, with a missed penalty thrown in, is evidence enough to suggest that Van Persie will push his incredible 30-goal tally of last season. There’s little doubt that Sir Alex Ferguson will be putting emphasis on scoring goals and killing teams off given the significance of goal difference in the previous campaign. In addition, United’s fragility at the back seems to ensure that they will need two or three goals every game to ensure victory. The platform is there, then, for Van Persie to provide huge returns for his owners.

With Wayne Rooney sidelined and the likes of Kagawa and Antonio Valencia threatened by rotation and role changes, Van Persie clearly offers not only the most profitable route to United’s attacking returns, but also the most secure.

The Team

While there were several contenders in the Gameweek, notably West Ham and West Brom, it was Arsenal’s victory at Anfield and the key performers on show that perhaps had the biggest impact on our Fantasy seasons.

The emergence of Santi Cazorla as a Fantasy asset was signposted over his two appearances prior to Sunday – any of our members privy to his stats from the Sunderland and Stoke games will have known just how he’s teetered on the edge of strong returns. Anfield saw that potential come to fruition and there’s little doubt that the Spaniard is now firmly in our minds from this Gameweek on.

Lukas Podolski also came out of the shadows to show his worth, delivering a goal and assist haul in the 2-0 win that will rouse some interest. The German is likely to be overlooked in our crowded forward lines, though, in favour of the pivotal Cazorla in midfield.

The foundation for Sunday’s attacking returns was, however, Arsenal’s defence, which has now delivered three consecutive clean sheets. Steve Bould’s appointment as coach can be cited as key to this new resolve and, what’s even more impressive, is that the shut-outs have been achieved without Bacary Sagna, Wojciech Szczesny and Laurent Koscielny – all first choice in their respective positions.

While that’s offered decent short-term value options, owners of Carl Jenkinson and Per Mertesacker will now be anxiously awaiting Wenger’s teamsheet in a fortnight, wondering if their assets will go on delivering value. Sagna was on schedule to return after the international break, while Koscielny and Szczesny were kept on the bench at Anfield. It remains to be seen if Wenger will keep faith in light of the defensive performances so far.

One thing is certain, however – Arsenal’s defence is currently standing alone in terms of form and returns with some coverage looking essential. Thomas Vermaelen is, of course, the jewel in the crown. With goals and bonus likely over the season, already he is looking a stronger option for those holding City and United defenders.

The Talking Point

The international break is a testing time. With three Gameweeks down and a host of talent emerging, Fantasy managers now face a fortnight of deliberation, with patience tested to the full.

While the likes of Van Persie, Carlos Tevez and Eden Hazard look a new powerful holy trinity, it’s left assets such as Gareth Bale and David Silva floundering and their owners surely twitching over the transfer button.

Both Bale and Silva are class players, assured of Fantasy returns over the season but the question remains – just how long to keep the faith while others are stealing a march with form players?

Bale, in particular, along with Steven Gerrard and Luis Suarez, finds himself a key attacking threat but within a side short on confidence and fluidity. Both Tottenham and Liverpool will likely need time to find the form that will see their players deliver on their potential and, in the meantime, there appears to be assured routes for returns elsewhere – across all the price brackets.

The volatile Fantasy Premier League prices is driving increased transfer activity and it’s genuinely difficult to sit still on proven, but out of form assets, when viable alternatives are spiraling out of sight.

In many ways, Van Persie’s showing will have made the decision easier. Wildcards will surely be thrown at the “problem”, with United’s striker the key target. That will surely see continued sales of Bale, Silva and even Kagawa who, overnight, appears to have slipped in favour as a result of Van Persie’s output.

Showing patience will, undoubtedly be costly in terms of team value. In the short-term, it could also cost points unless Bale and Silva can quickly wake from their slumber to challenge the protagonists so far.

I, for one, adopted a policy of patience with my squad last season – but then I had the comfort of a lineup based on a free Gameweek 2 wildcard which could anticipate the early transfer trends and form. Having twitched severely on Sunday, I can empathise with the dilemma faced over the break and fear that we’ll see many squads scrapped and templates formed that could well take a month or so to break up. Those who “stick” will be doing so in hope that the courage of their conviction pays off, to almost earn them a “differential”, but it won’t be a decision made with any degree of comfort.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. COMH
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Granville with your fresh WC team up and running are you happy to leave it for the time being or is there any changes you want to do already? Clyne > Demel maybe?

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    1. Granville
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Nah, West Ham's defence aren't as good as people think and I think Clyne will get forward a lot. Probably going to save 2 transfers and get Nolan in for Kaca and downgrade somewhere else.

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      1. COMH
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        Clyne > Demel is just point chasing after all. Had Clyne from the start. Hope he can start getting some assists although he never looked to get beyond Puncheon much yesterday. Playing against United though so it's expected.

        You could downgrade Ba or Kagawa to afford Kaca > Nolan. Could pay off nicely.

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  2. joshandali13
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Torres Tevez Petric
    Bale Cazorla Yaya Michu Dyer

    Who to bench? and I can do Bale > Hazard for a 4ph (FT's gonna be N'Zog > Cazorla)

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  3. I am not a smart guy
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Ridgewell or McAuley?

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    1. COMH
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Not much in it but i'm still sticking with Ridgewell who I will have in 2 GW's time.

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    2. Setting the Toney
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Dont be fooled by McAuley's goal, Ridgewell is easily the better going forward

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    3. Ivor
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Mcauley is rising tonight, in case it makes a difference

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  4. Jinswick
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    • 15 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Quick vote chaps - best 3rd striker for the below team from GW5 onwards? Pencilled in Lambert so far, but there seems to be a lot of love for Berbs on here...

    a) Graham
    b) Lambert
    c) Berbatov
    d) Someone else

    Bale, Hazard, Michu, Pienaar, Guthrie
    RVP, Tevez, XXX

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    1. buachaillbui
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      lambert on form but add Pog and Fletcher too

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    2. Parm
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Lambert, IMO.

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    3. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Lambert

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    4. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Toss up between B & C.

      Pog is also an interesting option at 4.9. Reading have decent wingers.

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  5. som3awy
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    The Bafana Bafana captain will miss the friendly fixtures with Brazil and Mozambique after picking up a thigh strain during Everton's Premier League match at West Bromwich Albion on Saturday.

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    1. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      good. fake injury to avoid nation team

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  6. PAVLYUCHENKOSAURUS
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Does Mannone have another game in him or will Shezza be back in action?

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    1. adams_6
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Shezza back I reckon

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  7. Zinedine
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    ---------Jaas------
    Hangeland----Vidic----Williams
    Dyer---Bale---Maloney----Hazard
    Lambert---Van Persie---Tevez

    Federici-Cuellar-Noble-Shorey

    Heres my team having not used a wildcard with 1 free transfer. I'm drawing a blank as to what to do this week, should I just leave it and save the transfer? Cheers

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  8. Your Mum's Athletic
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    RMWCT:

    Foster (Begovic)

    S Taylor Gibbs Rangel (Clyne Demel)

    Michu Kagawa Y Toure Cazorla (Sterling)

    Jelavic RVP Tevez

    0.0m in bank,

    a) too light on defense
    b) no hazard/chelsea cover
    c) any other ideas?
    d) link my other team which im not sure how to do..

    Cheers

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  9. afcblegend
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    "With Wayne Rooney sidelined and the likes of Kagawa and Antonio Valencia threatened by rotation and role changes..."

    I have to disagree that Valencia is under threat. Granted, he's not started firing but he's definitely getting the minutes and supply in, which is what his game is all about. His points total can only go up and I'll be happy to still have him in my team when it does 🙂

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    1. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      'Role changes' - Valencia might play right back where he's far less effective.

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    2. Zinedine
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      I think you can look elsewhere, depends who else you have but as the article says you've got all the united points you need in Van Persie. Valencia will only supplement those whereas other teams have players for similar price with much more significant roles

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    3. Granville
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      That Mark thinks that only RVP will get all the goals and assists.

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      1. Zinedine
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        he will get the majority for now, with the rest being hard to pick. with no single player standing out surely its best to look elsewhere for now

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      2. adams_6
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        Yep, he'll be setting himself up. NIce through ball and run on to it. He's superman

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    4. afcblegend
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Robuttles!

      Re: him playing RB, that was surely a one-off, defence was in tatters and Rafael needed a rest. Besides with Valencia you get width that no other united player can offer, which in turn gives Cleverley/Kagawa more space to operate. I'll take the point that you can get players who are maybe more integral to their respective teams goal-wise but I think the RVP / Valencia combo can be as successful as the Aguero / Silva of last year

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      1. Zinedine
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        I'm not discounting Valencia but it won't hurt too much to miss the boat whereas people who missed it on RVP are having to use their wildcards because they didnt make plans incase they needed him.

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  10. andres
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Who would you transfer out first out of:

    Ddg
    Ivan
    Zab
    Bale
    Graham

    0 in the bank, considering hit(s)
    Thx

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  11. Camzy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    My team for next week is all set.

    I for one think this season, early hits are worthwhile because of the skyrocketing prices.

    Jaask, Federici
    Cole, Zabaleta, Cuellar, Clyne, Demel
    Hazard, Cazorla, Michu, Ben Arfa, Guthrie
    RVP, Tevez, Graham

    Defense is a bit dated, but I can't afford to make transfers there. Have to stick it out and use freebies to slowly change it or WC it (GW 8 or so is my target!)

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    1. ShadyGooner
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      are you to keep graham? I have the same front three. Graham-> Ba seems to be a good option

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      1. buachaillbui
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        yeah have same front 3 thinking of booting out graham soonish

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    2. Samwise the Brave
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Zabelata out is the top priority, keep cole and cuellar than swap out demel and federici when you get a chance

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      1. buachaillbui
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        why get rid of Demel????

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        1. Samwise the Brave
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 4 months ago

          He already has jaask, they's little point playing them both at the same time

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          1. buachaillbui
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 4 months ago

            well he isn't WC-ing, Demel is a benchwarmer,it's a sideways move,
            I get your point on doubleing-up, it can work out,last year New and Swan.
            Alderdyce i believe will focus on this style of tight def.

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      2. Camzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        Yeah. Agreed. I want some Arsenal defense.

        My 4.0 benchies are fine atm.

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        1. Lateriser 12
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 4 months ago

          Arsenal defense GW7

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        2. Drip Doctor
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 4 months ago

          Baines > Arsenal defender.

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        3. buachaillbui
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 4 months ago

          I'm waiting for a few weeks(tricky fixtures after GW4) to see how nailed mert is before getting an arsenal def,
          Zab could transferred for any of the WB def, ie McCauley/Ridgewell

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    3. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Incredibly good team considering you still have a WC 😀

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    4. 1966 was a great year for E…
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Yep, the best strategy used to be to avoid early transfers - you might lose 0.1 early in the week, but the 0.2 raise wouldn't happen until nearer the Saturday. Now, players can be 0.3 higher by midweek.

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  12. COMH
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Jonty aka Berbonty on Yaya - He shouldn’t be an asset yet through a quirk in the space time vortex he can’t stop scoring. Remarkable and mysterious player.

    Brilliant.

    For that reason Lateriser, I am sticking with Yaya. It's backed by science!

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    1. Lateriser 12
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      But, Caz is so tempting.

      2 factors to consider here
      1) Value Yaya offers
      2) Price at which we will end up buying Cazorla

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      1. COMH
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        Yeah a very good point. Could end up being a Hazardesque price rise.

        Is Yaya > Cazorla the only way you can manage it while keeping Hazard?

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        1. Lateriser 12
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 4 months ago

          Option 1 : Can do Pienaar + Petric > Lambert + Santi (8 pt hit)
          Option 2 : Yaya > Santi (4 pt hit)
          Option 3 : Michu > Santi (4 pt hit)
          Option 4 : Wait.

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          1. Lateriser 12
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 4 months ago

            This should be a post.

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          2. COMH
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 4 months ago

            Put this in a post. Intriguing.

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      2. Lateriser 12
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        and the hit to make that transfer.

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  13. COMH
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Best defender for

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    1. COMH
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Don't know what happened to my post...

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  14. Samwise the Brave
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    What I think my wildcard team will look like, thoughts????

    Szczesny----4.0

    McAuley---- Taylor S---- Demel---- Cuellar---- Hughes

    Michu----Hazard----Nolan----Cazorla----- Ben Arfa

    Van Persie---- Tevez ------Lambert

    Hoping to make enough to swap lambert to berba????
    Also possibly a 5.0 goalie instead of szczensny????

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    1. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Save yourself a weekly bench dilemma and downgrade Nolan of Ben Arfa and improve your defence.

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  15. Setting the Toney
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    De Gea owners: What are you going to do about the little dilemma we face? I am holding for one more GW, partly because I've already used my free transfer.

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    1. Zinedine
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      cheap goalies has always been my philosophy, much higher points/cash margin to be found higher up the field

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    2. Samwise the Brave
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      I've got rid on my Wildcard, but he should start against wigan and play league with lindgaard playing CL. Just get rid when you get the chance

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    3. The Shadow
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      It's the same dilemna that was there from preseason. Stick to whatever you were planning to deal with it then.

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  16. lukemattar
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Have noble but thinking of taking a hit and getting ben arfa
    Already have michu kagawa toure bale

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  17. som3awy
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    David De Gea ‏@daviddegeaa
    A cristiano le pasa que ya no es guapo ni rico ni buen futbolista.

    Christian happens he is not handsome or rich or good footballer.

    Ummm....

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    1. som3awy
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Oh thats not his official account. Nvm 😀

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    2. Zinedine
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      dont know if thats your translation but why would the name change from Cristiano to Christian?!

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  18. red beard
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    petrics injury? anyone..

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  19. Your Mum's Athletic
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    RMWCT:

    Foster (Begovic)

    S Taylor Gibbs Rangel (Clyne Demel)

    Michu Kagawa Y Toure Cazorla (Sterling)

    Jelavic RVP Tevez

    0.0m in bank,

    a) too light on defense
    b) no hazard/chelsea cover
    c) any other ideas?
    d) link my other team which im not sure how to do..

    Cheers

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  20. COMH
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Best defender for £5 or less other than Cuellar to go with Ridgewell and Saylor?

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    1. Setting the Toney
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Williams (swansea)

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    2. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Cuellar.

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      1. COMH
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        Wow

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  21. The EJJ
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Hope the Cole injury isn't serious...could force me to WC.

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    1. The EJJ
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      It's minor. I didn't read the article like a right tart.

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      1. World XI
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        Which Cole?

        A.Cole
        C.Cole
        J.Cole

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  22. Studgie G
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    hoping Kagawa rises and then tears wigan a new one for a bigger rise just so i can afford Santi and a reserve keeper in couple weeks time

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    1. Samwise the Brave
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      kags won't rise

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  23. joshandali13
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Sorry for repost, need to have a peace of mind during my holiday

    Torres Tevez Petric
    Bale Cazorla Yaya Michu Dyer

    Who would you bench? and I can do Bale > Hazard for a 4ph (FT’s gonna be N’Zog > Cazorla)

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  24. BullDogTevez
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    So jealous of Torres owners this coming GW.

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    1. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      😀

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  25. Cubillas
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Who's more nailed on at Arsenal - Gibbs or Koscielny when he gets back?

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    1. Samwise the Brave
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Kos

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    2. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      At the moment you'd have to say Gibbs. Mertesacker is playing very well. He is also the one organizing the defence.

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    3. Studgie G
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      both honestly just gibbs is a injury risk

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    4. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Gibbs.

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    5. Top Heavy
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      I'd say Gibbs..Wenget can't really drop Mertasaker after 3 clean sheets..Rotation will be for the cups for now

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  26. Jinswick
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Am I mad to be considering getting Barfa instead of Hazard in GW5? Better medium term fixtures, and the extra 2.5m means I can get Baines in for one of my cheapies in GW6, to give me:

    De Gea, Fed
    Baines, Zabs, Cuellar, Hughes, Clyne
    Bale, Barfa, Michu, Pienaar, Guthrie
    RVP, Tevez, Lambert

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    1. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      I don't think it's mad, he has only scored 1 goal and that was a pen. Trouble is, he is soo highly owned that if he does score well, it will hurt.

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      1. Jinswick
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        Cheers. Just had a rethink, and with this team:

        De Gea, Fed
        Zabs, Cuellar, Hughes, Clyne, McCartney
        Bale, Kagawa, Michu, Pienaar, Guthrie
        RVP, Tevez, Podolski
        Bank 0.5m

        I think this looks like a better way to go. Thoughts?

        GW4: Save the transfer
        GW5: Kagawa & Pod -> Hazard & Lambert
        GW6: Zabs -> Baines

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  27. Top Heavy
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Ciaran Clark really redeemed himself this week, 11 points 🙂

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    1. Ivor
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Only player on my bench, gutting.

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  28. wimiw
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    friedel to drop in price before next gw?

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  29. Lateriser 12
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Ok lads, i pretty much know what i'm going to do but need your opinions. Santi looks like a must have.
    So choose.

    Option 1 : Pienaar + Petric > Lambert + Santi (8 pt hit)
    Option 2 : Yaya > Santi (4 pt hit)
    Option 3 : Michu > Santi (4 pt hit)
    Option 4 : Wait and stick to my guns. Buy Santi GW7 for a price close to 10M

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    1. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Option 2.

      Santi won't rise to £10.0m with mcy, CHE coming up.

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      1. Lateriser 12
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        So why not option 4 then?

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        1. Parm
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 4 months ago

          Because you seem ever so desperate to get him in...

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          1. Lateriser 12
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 4 months ago

            Just considering all my options here Parm.

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    2. Back on the horse
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      4 or maybe 1. (I haven't considered fixtures in this answer)

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  30. pjomara
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    what's the scout contributors league link?

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      1. pjomara
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        ta

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