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1 December 2012 5026 comments
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Gameweek 15 begins with the bluster of a London derby, laced with some good old fashioned ill-feeling between the managers. Rafa Benitez and Sam Allardyce face off having traded words in the past, in what promises to be a bruising encounter and one that is set to test the Rafa regime to the full.

Our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open to catch your reaction to events in this game and all of Saturday’s other seven encounters.

The team news from Upton Park is significant for both sides. The Hammers go into the game without Andy Carroll who has failed to overcome the knee knock suffered in the midweek defeat at Old Trafford – Carlton Cole leads the attack, then. On the plus side, Mark Noble returns from his ban to bolster the midfield, while Gary O’Neil is also drafted in with Matt Taylor and, surprisingly, Mo Diame dropping to the bench.

Once again we can see rotation in the Chelsea lineup. While Juan Mata is restored, it appears that it’s Oscar’s turn to get rested to the bench – he makes way for the Spaniard’s return. Victor Moses and Mikel also come in with Ryan Bertrand and Oriol Romeu dropping out. Gary Cahill replaces the suspended David Luiz as expected.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. rogerrapid
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    soooo Berba's not playing??!!

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    1. TheKingThierry
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Yikes I actually believed you ðŸ™

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  2. HuttonDressedasLahm
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Damn, no Morrisson. That man is my nemesis!!

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    1. COMH
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Just sell him mate. At least Gera is dirt cheap so it's not as frustrating.

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    2. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      And he's taken over from Brunt this season for me!

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    3. JK - Cønt â­
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      I sold him for Fellaini and got Long instead

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  3. Timon
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    CHELSEA HAMMERED

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  4. RafaMC
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Hazard out Walcott in this morning for a 4pt hit. I feel happy now given the state of Chelski now.

    Come on Walcott..... 2 goals and assist in a 3-1 victory with Michu getting the consolation for the Swans

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  5. Blue Teets
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Rafa or no Rafa, Chelsea are not a very good team. 5th place last year and I can't see anything that would suggest they'll be higher this year.

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    1. Kostja
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      There is one really easy way to fix that. Torres to Falcao for a 30 000 000 point hit.

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  6. KakiBangku
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Baines VS Maicon

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    1. COMH
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      The world's best 😉

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    2. Kostja
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      no defense 😀

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    3. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      I can see a Fellaini goal.

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    4. KakiBangku
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Moyes baines injury tactic worked.

      Cue baines first goal.

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  7. The Finnisher
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Fair play to Allardyce, cutting his losses and bringin Diame on at half-time. Of course he should have started it but how often do managers admit they were wrong by half-time?

    Diame is a quality player.

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    1. 1justlookin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      agreed.

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  8. Big Col
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    SITUATIONS VACANT

    Chelsea Football Club

    Proper Manager & Striker required

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    1. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Roman to stop knee jerking. That is the solution

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      1. Big Col
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Agreed but needs to stop justifying his Torres purchase and accept he's not the same player,

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  9. SPorting
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    can i just say, i'll take those 7 points from Mata.

    it's better than the -4 a lot of people ended up with when they transferred him out for a hit.

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    1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Yeah, it feels good. Now to switch to Bale or Silva.

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    2. Feanor
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      I didn't take a hit but I really need at least an assist from Silva today.

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    3. Cheggers
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      damn straight

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    4. Bullet Tooth Bony
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Agreed. But will you be keeping him much longer?

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      1. SPorting
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        he is quality. no doubt about that.

        just the rest of the team.....

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    5. Crouch Potato!
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Very close to having a lot more.

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    6. Back on the horse
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      -4 + the points they get from the player they transfer in

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      1. SPorting
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        but they don't have those at the moment.

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        1. Back on the horse
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 1 month ago

          obv, but they will. you say they ended up with -4. GW isnt over yet

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    7. Portuguese&Proud
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      +1 😉 altough i believe i'll ship him next week unless he's rested for UCL that might convince me to keep him for Sunderland

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    8. Somalion
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      I'd wait until the people we took a hit for play before saying that.

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      1. SPorting
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        don't care. had enough of the Demba Ba's of this world.

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        1. Somalion
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 1 month ago

          Which is fair enough but I'd wait.

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    9. Chrissy Waddle - 2025/26
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      🙄

      If you feel the need to say it. Good for you.

      More and more people on here turning into little kids. Saturday crèche time.

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      1. SPorting
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        free speech and all that.

        not really this issue but I am winning right now.

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        1. Chrissy Waddle - 2025/26
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 1 month ago

          Like I said, good for you. Good call on Mata. Hope your GW keeps going well.

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  10. Nopli
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    RAFA OUT YOU FAT WAITER

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    1. bdwhite91
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      I'm sure it's all his fault. Players performance have nothing to do with it, right?

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      1. Crouch Potato!
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Yup and being fat is also a major factor, I mean Sam is thin as a rake!

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    2. Nice1Cyrille
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Yeah, like he told Roman to fire Di Matteo...

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  11. Alton E.
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    RAFA STAY

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  12. bdwhite91
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Any Chelsea fans willing to take AVB back if they could at this point?

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    1. Big Col
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Absolutely Not!

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    2. AK â­
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      RDM.

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    3. Pratik
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      I was thinking about the same thing 🙂

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    4. moment
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Jose's looking shaky at Real.

      A boy can dream, can't he?

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      1. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        RDM

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  13. The Finnisher
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    In all seriousness. Say Chelsea don't win for another, 4-5 matches, how long do you see Benitez there for?

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    1. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      RDM

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    2. Blue Teets
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      QUESTIONS??!! QUESTIONS??!! DOWN IT !!!! DOWN IT!!! GET IT DOWN U ZULU WARRIOR!!!

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  14. Jax
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    jeez west brom really do like to rotate their team quite a bit.

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  15. Henry Hill
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    I don't want to see Doosra posting here for the rest of the day, he must be getting drunk as a lord immediately!

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      It takes me a LONG time to get pissed ... 😉

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      1. Nomar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Fair play mate. West Ham exceeding my expectations for them.

        I wish QPR showed as much spirit and commitment as your lot.

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  16. Viper
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Everyone accounted for except for Ridgewell today!

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  17. The Finnisher
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Nastasic out certainly doesn't help City's defence, he's been better than Kompany this season. Fellaini goal, please and thankyou.

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    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      See above 😀

      Kolarov, Maicon and Lescott is quite weak defensively.

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  18. Colonel Shoe è‚æ± 
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    guardiola would do well to avoid this poisoned chalice

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    1. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      It's working! 🙂

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      1. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Reply fail...

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  19. Cheggers
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Took out Baines and Pienaar this week for hit for Mertesacker and Silva.

    Queue silva 2, mertesackeer 1 and Pienaar fouled for a Baines pen

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  20. Feanor
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    I can't believe Ridgewell got benched. Scout Picks curse.

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  21. Acquafresca
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Lets go Fellaini you caveman!! 😀

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  22. Wings of Steel
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Was actually annoyed I brought in Mcauley instead of ridgewell because of price difference. Luck I havent had in a while. Whys Ridgewell not playing?

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    1. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Xmas coming and the main players need rest

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    2. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Benched for Popov.

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    3. The Chosen One...
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Coz I brought him in this week

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    4. Granville
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      3 games in a week.

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  23. b3- bish bash bosh
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    andy carroll is out for 8 weeks
    anyone thinking about carton cole for 4.9m?

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    1. Jax
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      no.

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    2. moment
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Hella cheap. But he's still useless.

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  24. OPTA FPL
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Ivanovic so bad at CB

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    1. The Finnisher
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      He's bad at defending full stop

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    2. Acquafresca
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      natural position.

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    3. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      He's worse at RB

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  25. Peteex
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Why on earth Ridgewell isn't starting?

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    1. Jax
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      rotation obviously

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      1. The Finnisher
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        "Obviously" ? He's played 90 when fit all year so it's not that obvious.

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    2. Wings of Steel
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      On the lash last night maybe

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    3. mutatedllama
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Because he tucks his shirt in.

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    4. Pinoche
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Because he is in the Scout picks.

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      1. Peteex
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        I think that must be the case 🙂

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  26. shivamutd
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Shane Long double coming

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  27. Pinoche
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Michu playing in the hole?

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  28. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Baps for Chelski Wham?

    I'd say

    Cole 3
    Mata/Diame 2 or 1

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  29. Spin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Giroud on the fn bench - WTF!!!

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  30. The Baines
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Any chance of Mata bonus..

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    1. Milner4eva
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      1 bap probz IMO

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    2. Jax
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      you never know.

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    3. DLL18
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      0-1 at best.

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    4. Granville
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Nope. 2 out of 8 shots on target. Losing team. 3 other goalscorers and 4 assisters.

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