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1 December 2012 5026 comments
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Gameweek 15 begins with the bluster of a London derby, laced with some good old fashioned ill-feeling between the managers. Rafa Benitez and Sam Allardyce face off having traded words in the past, in what promises to be a bruising encounter and one that is set to test the Rafa regime to the full.

Our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open to catch your reaction to events in this game and all of Saturday’s other seven encounters.

The team news from Upton Park is significant for both sides. The Hammers go into the game without Andy Carroll who has failed to overcome the knee knock suffered in the midweek defeat at Old Trafford – Carlton Cole leads the attack, then. On the plus side, Mark Noble returns from his ban to bolster the midfield, while Gary O’Neil is also drafted in with Matt Taylor and, surprisingly, Mo Diame dropping to the bench.

Once again we can see rotation in the Chelsea lineup. While Juan Mata is restored, it appears that it’s Oscar’s turn to get rested to the bench – he makes way for the Spaniard’s return. Victor Moses and Mikel also come in with Ryan Bertrand and Oriol Romeu dropping out. Gary Cahill replaces the suspended David Luiz as expected.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Nopli
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Are there any other Chelsea supporting billionaires out there who could buy-out Abramovich?

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    1. Kostja
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      why would he sell?

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    2. Henry Hill
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      That's what you get for appointing an interim manager. No one's bothered, no one takes what the manager has to say too seriously.

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      1. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        he needs to learn that this isn't sony play station game after all

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      2. moment
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        In fairness, RDM was an interim manager last season and it worked pretty well for us.

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        1. Big Col
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 1 month ago

          RDM was Chelsea through and through, to Rafa its just a job!

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  2. itstimmehc
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Brunt on the bench :'(

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    1. Jax
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      as per usual

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  3. Acquafresca
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Arsenal lineup once more please

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    1. The Finnisher
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Szcz Jenkinson Verm Mert Gibbs Arteta Wilshere Caz Theo Podolski Gervinho

      I think..

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    2. Jax
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Arsenal: Szczesny, Jenkinson, Mertesacker, Vermaelen, Gibbs, Cazorla, Arteta, Wilshere, Walcott, Gervinho, Podolski. Subs: Mannone, Rosicky, Giroud, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Ramsey, Squillaci, Coquelin.

      Swansea: Tremmel, Rangel, Chico, Williams, Davies, Dyer, Britton, Ki, de Guzman, Shechter, Michu. Subs: Cornell, Monk, Moore, Tiendalli, Agustien, Richards, Donnelly.

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Theo right Gerv through the middle, Podol left??

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  4. Crouch Potato!
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    SWP for Cisse, a strange move.

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    1. Henry Hill
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Disgrace he is starting, Dyer or Hoilett would be better shout, even Park. What I can't understand is Faurlin not making the bench, seems Harry doesn't rate him.

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      1. Crouch Potato!
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        If they in, I won't care, was on the pitch when we beat Chelsea, here's hoping.

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    2. Nomar
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      We seem to be jinxed that every manager we ever get is going to play SWP.

      Seriously, this isn't 2005 anymore. The guy is sh*te. Just drop his ass already. And what's up with Faurlin? Not even in the final 15?

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      1. Crouch Potato!
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Faurlin is a strange one.

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  5. @FuzzyWarbles
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    COYS!!

    lets gain some ground! always love this fixture, my favourite squad playing at my favourite away ground.

    Dempsey brace.

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  6. BT31 - WE ARE ALL TINKERMEN…
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Well that was amusing. Any funny Rafa jokes?

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    1. Jax
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      just his name. that's it.

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    2. Crazy Joe
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Just got the Chelsea 2013 calendar.

      There's a little plastic bag with cut-outs of Pep Guardiola, Rafa Benitez, Steve Clarke & Jose Mourinho and a pritt stick for January.

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  7. HuttonDressedasLahm
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Big transfers in this week....

    Ridgewell, Nastasic, Giroud, Azpilicueta, ACole

    Players out

    Baines, Tevez, Mata

    LOL!

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  8. Naboo
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Baines to Nastasic for a hit is probably the worst fpl transfer I've ever made. My first drunken, knee-jerk, panic sale of the season but still a massive mistake, I wanted Baines back even before I heard Nasty was out today 🙁

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    1. timski8000
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      I'm not distraught about getting rid of Baines, just a bit annoyed that i went for Nastasic over Mertesacker now.

      Still, I think he's first choice so probably a rest as he's only 19.

      i expect him to come back in soon and at 5.5 he's decent value in the Citeh backline.

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  9. Parm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Daniel about? 😉 😆

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    1. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      What did he do?

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      1. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        yeah yeah. not surprised at all

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  10. @FuzzyWarbles
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    so with all the WBA changes, should i consider b jones rested or dropped?

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    1. @FuzzyWarbles
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      i ask the tough questions

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    2. Portuguese&Proud
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      rested perhaps altough someone mentioned he had some guilt in all Swansea goals last GW

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  11. OPTA FPL
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    At least Chelsea bad form is good news for Sunderland DGW !

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    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Cuellar(c)

      LOL

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    2. TheKingThierry
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Chelsea could have 2defenders and sunderland would still not score

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    3. KakiBangku
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Yes, now im actually considering adding sessengon to my fletcher.

      Bad move though if its only for a week.

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  12. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    The worse debut ever? Also we haven't scored 2 goals in a game since ages !!!

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  13. Lateriser 12
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Dear Michu,

    I love you. Get a good rest today son. Don't do anything at all.

    Much love,
    Lateriser12

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Play well, dont score, get booked. Thanks

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  14. Crouchy
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    The Rafa Benitez 'what a shit week' gif 😆
    http://twitpic.com/bi4jro

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  15. Piggs Boson
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Last year the bottom four were dominated by teams starting with W, now they're attempting to lead the pack. Cmon Wigan, you're lagging!!

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  16. mattyrobinson
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Ridgewell benched?

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    1. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      the better player plays 😉

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      1. mattyrobinson
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        I've got a lot of time for Popov but thought Ridge might get shifted to CB if he was to play.

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        1. FPL Daniel
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 1 month ago

          agree

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  17. Davido989
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Odds on Benetiz to get sacked and Di Matteo to become interim manager? 😉

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  18. Rowley Birkin
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Need a big day from Bale and Michu

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  19. Feanor
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Ridgewell owners - who's coming off the bench for you? I get Demel's 2 points if Ridgewell stays benched all game long.

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Morrison owner. Ive got Puncheon

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    2. Granville
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Shorey.

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    3. CABAYE4
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Ramirez

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  20. timski8000
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Benitez made the mistake of taking the job too early.

    Anyone with a brain knows you don't take the job at Chelsea unless the owner promises you a handsome transfer kitty.

    Same issue at Chelsea as there is at Man United, Arsenal and Citeh - nobody has got a decent defensive midfielder anymore. How much would Makelele be worth now?!

    Makes for fun some scores though.

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Tiote? Mulumbu(yes, really)

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      1. timski8000
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Stats show that tiote can't actually pass a ball...

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  21. Acquafresca
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Chelsea fans stop blaming Benitez. You guys played shit.

    Can`t always blame the manager for a loss. 😉

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    1. Sarnab
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Right

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  22. clockwork
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    aguero and giroud fail.

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  23. Over LAN and C:\
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Brought in Enrique for Baines and have somehow ended up with him third sub!

    I'll be hoping for a Southampton goal now!

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    1. Acquafresca
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      they'll score.

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    2. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      what??

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  24. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Baps?

    Carlton Cole 3
    Diame 1/2
    Mata 1/2

    Fair?

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    1. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Yep, looks right to me

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    2. Granville
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      None for Mata I wouldn't have thought.

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      1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Why?

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        1. Acquafresca
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 1 month ago

          Lost, shot off target. 1 max

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        2. Elniñorules
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 1 month ago

          Loads of shots off target & losing team

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        3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 1 month ago

          Because he didn't do very well. Lotta shots off target, and gave the ball away, crucially.

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        4. Granville
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          • 16 Years
          13 years, 1 month ago

          2 out of 8 shots on target. Losing team.

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          1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 1 month ago

            it was 2 out of 5

            and Diame had 2 shots off target and only played 45

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      2. The Finnisher
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        This.

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      3. Nopli
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Mata played 90 minutes unlike Diame so has a better chance of getting even 2 bonus

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      4. Nopli
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Mata played 90 minutes unlike Demel so has a better chance of getting even 2 bonus

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    3. Acquafresca
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Mata 0/1

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    4. Bullet Tooth Bony
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      3
      2
      1

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    5. Wings of Steel
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      na. Mata = dreaming

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  25. timski8000
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    ooh half a point each 😉

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  26. Mak_Gold
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Does Suarez start? I don't have him BTW.

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      1. Billy Gilmore
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Of course.

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    • Demel
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Not sure how much longer I can keep faith with Aguero for.

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      1. jonesy_in_the_laundry_room
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        I'm amazed you've kept face this long.

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    • Davido989
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Someone's just tweeted Theo pulled a muscle in the warm up, but is given the heads up to play???

      I'm guessing it's BS?

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      1. Chrissy Waddle - 2025/26
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        You still here?

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    • Mavric Marco
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      I'm expecting great things from David Silva today

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    • Granville
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      The biggest surprise for me today - 3 West ham goals and nothing for Nolan. 😯

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Not a surprise for me ... 😉

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      2. Mavric Marco
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Chelsea conceding 3!

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      3. Nice1Cyrille
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        13 years, 1 month ago

        yep. thought he might get an assist at least

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        1. Feanor
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 1 month ago

          I played him and took out Mata for Silva. 🙁

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