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16 December 2012 2789 comments
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Sunday delivers two Premier League tussles, with White Hart Lane providing the starting point as Spurs entertain the Swans in the early kick-off. West Ham’s visit to the Hawthorns rounds off the day as the Baggies look to recover from their recent slump which has seen them slip to three consecutive defeats. Our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open to grab your views on the events as the day unfolds and the bird roasts in the oven.

The team news from the Lane finds Gareth Bale absent as expected. His twanged hamstring keeps his sidelined: Clint Dempsey is likely to line up on the left flank, with Emmanuel Adeabayor in tandem with the in-form Jermain Defoe. The Spurs back four has been shuffled again, with Jan Vertonghen shifting alongside William Gallas and Kyle Naughton drafted in at left-back – Steven Caulker drops to the bench where he’s joined by the returning Scott Parker. The visitors recall Ashley Williams to their defence after he missed the midweeek Capital One Cup win through suspension. Angel Rangel is missing, however, he’s ruled out with a calf injury, opening the way for Dwight Tiendalli to earn a first Premier League start. Itay Shechter drops to the bench as Ki Sung-Yueng is drafted in, which means that Michu is back up front.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Blue Moon Rising
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Scezeny Ruddy

    RIdgewell Enrique Demel Clyne Cameron

    Fellaini Cazorla Michu Nolan Puncheon

    Suarez Berba RVP

    1 FT and 0.1 in the bank

    What should I do?

    Fellaini, Ridgwell, Ruddy out? Which one first?

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    1. Blue Moon Rising
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      I have faith in Berba and Suarez to come good.

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    2. rvp786
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      you could save and still post a decent team.

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      1. Blue Moon Rising
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        That's another option

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        1. The King
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          I would get rid of Fellaini...he is bound to drop .2 or .3m

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          1. Blue Moon Rising
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            Yep, suppose I;ll have to see how quickly this saga moves. Also who can I get in for him

            Options limited in that price range for me.

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            1. Nice to Michu
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              get some Yaya in your team. you have no city coverage

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  2. applebonkers
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    dear fellaini owners
    i hate every single one of you for not getting the -1 you deserved from him yesterday. take his price rise last night and shove it up your arse.
    x

    got that off my chest, don't take it too seriously

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    1. Mavric Marco
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Lol, Bitter 😉

      Mata your time to shine

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    2. Pat Mustard
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      +1

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    3. GreenWindmill
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      He also indirectly cost Begovic a point through dissent at his repeated assaults going unpunished. 😡

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    4. 1966 was a great year for E…
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      +-1

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      1. HellasLEAF
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        So how many will he miss you guys reckon...

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        1. Back to Back Ballacks
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          3

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        2. GreenWindmill
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Not enough

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        3. crystalpalaceRus
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          4

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          1. HellasLEAF
            • 16 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            3 or 4??

            oh no, definitely getting rid.

            ugh, throws a wrench in transfer plans this!!

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        4. JWilson3
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Personally I reckon 6

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          1. JWilson3
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            Probably will not get it but usually violent conduct merits a 3 match ban and he headbutted and punched Shawcross.

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        5. 1966 was a great year for E…
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          3 for the head-butt. I'm not sure if he gets another match because he's been banned already. His previous ban was for accumulated yellows, not sure if that still counts.

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          1. GreenWindmill
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            Do we not think he might get more on top for the punch/slap/whatever later on in the match?

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            1. 1966 was a great year for E…
              • 15 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              I don't think so, it wasn't exactly Joey Barton stuff...

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              1. GreenWindmill
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                Fair enough, I think each incident was worthy of a red card independently if it had been spotted at the time, not sure how they deal with that.

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          2. heartsattack
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            It doesn't count if its accumulated yellows.

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        6. heartsattack
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          3

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  3. Lawrø
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    A or B?

    A) Giroud + 19 points

    B) Cazorla + Demel + Shorey

    I fancy A's chances 😀

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    1. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Demel to score winner goal and get 15p in 2nd half

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  4. Ashley ♥
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Royal Baby 2013

    Male: 20/21
    Female: 20/21

    Tempting.

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    1. Pat Mustard
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      What is?

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      1. Lawrø
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        I presume he means betting on the gender of Kate Middleton's baby.

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        1. Pat Mustard
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Ridiculous.

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  5. Mind över Mata
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Fellaini and Berbs -> Mata/Bale and Benteke (-4)

    Yes/no - thanks!

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    1. Call Me Old Fashioned
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Ooh, I think Benteke's time is in 2 weeks. Any other way to keep Berba for now

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      1. Mind över Mata
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Currently:

        Foster , Bego
        Enrique, Merte, Shorey, Cuellar, Nelson
        Silva, Fellaini, Walcott, Sterling, Michu
        Suarez, RVP, Berbs

        1FT, 1.3G

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        1. Call Me Old Fashioned
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Walcott and Fellaini for Mata/Bale and ?

          Or cash in on Sterling to Puncheon

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    2. heartsattack
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Yeah. I think it could work.

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    3. ccc
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      benteke knee jerk imo

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  6. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Anyone with me that rotation of keeper doesn't work. I played Bego and Jask is gonna get the CS!!!Arhhh. I might go with different approach, as i planned beginning of season. I might downgrade Jask and go with Bunn or Sorensen or whatever. I will play only one keeper.

    Does anyone has data to back this up.
    Best possible scenario in the Bego/ Jussy front
    Worst possible scenario
    Always play the home lad
    Only play Bego
    Only play Jussy

    \? Cheers

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    1. Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      It's halftime dude

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    2. megatronaldinho
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      you're saying that keeper rotation doesn't work but what you really mean is that religiously playing home keeper regardless of opposition is unadvisable

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    3. megatronaldinho
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      play the one who's against the weakest team

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      1. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        I will ask u next time who to play

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  7. Jafooli
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Demel to Gorkss?

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    1. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Demel is season keeper

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    2. crystalpalaceRus
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      You have Demel, why?

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  8. heartsattack
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Struggling like mad for fit players who'll play.

    Begovic
    Cameron B Jones Zabaletta
    Puncheon Mata Silva Michu
    Rooney Tevez (c) Suarez

    No frees. Will this see me through next week.

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    1. The Chosen One...
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Definitely don't double up on Stoke defence at Spurs unless ur other defenders are injured

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    2. Dante
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Yep looks good for next week. Only slight risk is that Tevez could be benched I guess?

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      1. heartsattack
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Who would you VC?

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  9. In Bale We Trust
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Mata or Bale?

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    1. ccc
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      coin toss imo

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    2. heartsattack
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Mata

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    3. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Bale... Mata may get injured yet...

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    4. Declan
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      In Bale we trust

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    5. Call Me Old Fashioned
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Both.

      And no I am not trying to be an asshole

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      1. tangtastic
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        A guy like you doesn't even need to try 😉

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        1. Call Me Old Fashioned
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          But you are best mate, how could you say so!

          PS. I havent seen you since you beat me 1pt in La Liga due to a Yaya bonus pts. I was spitting feathers that day.

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          1. tangtastic
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            I did spare a thought for you that day. I couldn't believe it myself. So lucky.

            Now competing for 4th place Arsenal style though if its any consolation.

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            1. Call Me Old Fashioned
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              I honestly don't know where abouts I am tbh, I haven't checked H2Hs for 2 weeks. I think I was near 10th 2 weeks ago. Kinda only focusing on classic leagues now and forgetting to check H2Hs in midweek because of my job

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    6. Mavric Marco
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Mata next weekend for sure

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    7. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Both

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  10. tangtastic
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    So. This Demel guy.. is he any good?

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    1. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      he's class

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    2. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      He scores when he wants!

      He just doesn't want to...

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      1. crystalpalaceRus
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        exactly!

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      2. tangtastic
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        😆

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        1. HellasLEAF
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          have Mr. Demel coming on for Rafael.

          In Guy we trust!!

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      3. Pratik
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        😆

        I just saw your opponents in dgw in bundesliga.....They have had a shitty week!!!

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        1. 4vets
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Have they? I will check them out. Thanx.

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  11. Manani
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    hughes/cuellar> GJ/Zab

    or

    Fellaini > Mata/Bale?

    btw, if I get mata/bale, it would mean benching morrison (NOR) next week

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    1. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Your link's fecked.

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        1. 4vets
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Just dump Fellaini imho.

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          1. Manani
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            will he be banned 100%?

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            1. heartsattack
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              Yeah. He's admitted it and will defo be banned.

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    2. The King
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      What is your current defense looking like for next week?

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      1. Manani
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        look up

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  12. Andy1
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Fellaini out for

    A. Yaya
    B. pienaar
    C. Puncheon
    D. Somebody else

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    1. crystalpalaceRus
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      punch!!!!

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    2. Declan
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Yaya, if you dont have Silva.

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      1. Andy1
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        I don't.

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        1. Declan
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          He has 25% ownership 😯

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    3. The King
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Puncheon. Better goal/assist threat + he'll free up funds elsewhere.

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      1. Andy1
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        That's my thought at the moment too

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  13. Declan
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Cmon Long, lets see a shot on target son.

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  14. Timon
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    With Bale or Mata talks going,
    may i say Mata is a 'proven' Rotation risk? where is Bale is nailed on

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    1. Timon
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      *where Bale is nailed on

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  15. Messiah Hazard
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    With Felliani set to fall tonight, transfers should be done today to get max profit...

    Does Fellaini to Silva and Sterling to Puncheon look good?

    Silva has 3 good fixtures next and with Bale just returning from injury, I will wait until January to get him... Already have Mata...

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    1. L P
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      He isn't going to fall today...

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    2. Manani
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      fellaini dropping tonight?
      fiso doesn't agree with that...

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    3. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      He is not set to fall tonight. Where this came from?

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  16. OPTA FPL
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Come on Demel!

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    1. HellasLEAF
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      +1

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  17. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    I hate this Jaks CS !!!!!!!!! ARrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrhhhhhhhhhhhhhh He gets 2 pts whenever I play him and he gets CS's !!! Whenever I bench him artaeiotu[q 39475tq7m594

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    1. Portuguese&Proud
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      i know the feeling but at least you could wait till the game is over

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    2. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      +artaeiotu[q 39475tq7m594

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      1. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        It happens 5 in a row for me !!!!!!!!!!!I lost 30pts god damn it. I would have been top !10K

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    3. Viper
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      WBA will score!

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  18. Scroobius Mac
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Wasn't around yesterday, was there any news on Fletcher?

    Also with Michu if he's concussed even though he came back on he still might be ruled out of a couple of games. Funny old injury and have to be very careful these days. Not saying he will but it's not as simple as 'he came back on, he's fine'.

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  19. Blue Moon Rising
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Fellaini owners (inc. me) are going to struggle to get a decent replacement. I've got Nolan, Michu, Puncheon , don't really fancy anyone else around his price range.

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    1. Andy1
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Yaya

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      1. Blue Moon Rising
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Seems to be the best option,

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        1. Blue Moon Rising
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          DOn't think he's a great FF player but don't really have any city coverage or strong alternative options

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  20. charliec1903
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    No City coverage, would it be sensible to do Fellaini>Yaya. Other options are Punch or Nolan?

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  21. FF Dirtbag
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    How the hell am I gonna get bale into this team without taking out Mata, Michu or silva?

    Begovic jaask
    Rafael Enrique Cameron caulker McCartney
    Mata silva Michu Nolan sterling
    Ba rvp fletcher

    Is it worth taking a hit for him or just wait another week and save the transfer?

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    1. HellasLEAF
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      RVP to Rooney

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    2. Call Me Old Fashioned
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Wait a week or 2 and dump Silva after they play Reading?

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      1. Call Me Old Fashioned
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        until then forget about it

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        1. FF Dirtbag
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Cheers Ajay you are always a help! Hope I can help you at some point

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          1. Call Me Old Fashioned
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            Yes, fast forward to Jan please. I need a WC to fix my midfield!

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            1. FF Dirtbag
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              What does it even look like? Think there is a need to shape up for everyone, jan can't come sooner

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              1. Call Me Old Fashioned
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                Fellaini, Walcott, Cazorla, Michu, McAnuff

                Got Cazorla in for sess in hope that Arsenal go ape against Reading. Also have Berba who I want to clear out

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                1. FF Dirtbag
                  • 14 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  Can see what you mean buddy, does need a shape up with Mcanuff and fell now.. A lot of dependence on arsenal but you should be alright! I don't see arsenal going mental but maybe 2-0 or something. As long as you get mata or bale in at some point it will sort it for sure

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                  1. Call Me Old Fashioned
                    • 14 Years
                    12 years, 12 months ago

                    I am inclined to go for Fellaini and Walcott/Santi--->Puncheon + Bale/Mata and sort out rest as soon as GW21 starts

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                  2. FF Dirtbag
                    • 14 Years
                    12 years, 12 months ago

                    Completely sensible I would defo do that

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                  3. Call Me Old Fashioned
                    • 14 Years
                    12 years, 12 months ago

                    for -4 though. I think I will still hit it

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  22. Dr Dream
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    35 with four to play...including capt Caz...might not be a bad week after all..

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  23. Declan
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Morrison off target, Phew!

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    1. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      on. Demel cleared it

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    2. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Oh... shut it! 😉

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      1. Declan
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        😛

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  24. Super John McGinn-
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Thinking Fellaini>Taarabt which is good rotation with Sterling and gives me 4.5 to improve team. Think I will need to take a hit this week, please help me! 🙁

    Begovic, Schwarzer

    Rafael, Caulker, B.Jones, Cuellar, Nelson

    Silva, Fellaini, Michu, Sessegnon, Sterling

    Van Persie, Suarez, Berbatov

    1 Free Transfer 2.5 In The Bank

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    1. Call Me Old Fashioned
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      You have lots of wonga, Fellaini to Bale/Mata.

      Job done, no hit needed

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      1. Super John McGinn-
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Was thinking about this want to get rid of Sess as well any ideas? Thankyou 😀

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        1. Call Me Old Fashioned
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Vs Soton isn't worth it.

          I would only take the -4 if both Bale and Mata are fit. Could Sess + Fellaini --->Bale and Mata work if Bale is fit? That is the only hit I would take in your place only if Bale will play 100%.

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        2. FF Dirtbag
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Keep sess for the next game then get rid of him after no need for a hit

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  25. Jafooli
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Toss it in the box big lad.....

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    1. Declan
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      There are kids watching.

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  26. OPTA FPL
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Why have Big Sam always sat on the stand in 1st half?

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  27. ccc
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    I brought in Fellaini at 7m. Not sure I want to sell him, just to bring him back.

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    1. HellasLEAF
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Sell him and bring him back WC

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    2. Blue Moon Rising
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Could be a 6 gamer

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  28. Manani
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    morrison is making me easier to bench him next match

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  29. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Tot BP
    Vert 3BP
    Walker 2BP
    1BP - whatever

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  30. 4vets
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    It's got interesting!

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    1. Declan
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Thankfully

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    2. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      about time...I fell asleep first half

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