Dugout Discussion
23 December 2012 3491 comments
Mark Mark
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Having watched City struggle to claim three points against lowly Reading, it’s now United’s turn to keep pace with Sir Alex Ferguson’s side facing an altogether more testing encounter at the Liberty Stadium. United’s trip to Swansea gets Sunday’s action underway, with a globe-trotting Chelsea the latest side to face Paul Lambert’s in-form Villa later this afternoon. Our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open to collect the real-time chatter whilst the goals and assists accumulate.

The team news from Wales finds the home side making two changes with Michael Laudrup recalling Michel Vorm in goal, while Kemy Agustien comes in for his first league start this term, replacing Ki Sung-Yueng who drops to the bench to make way. Angel Rangel is still sidelined so Dwight Tiendalli continues at right-back. Nathan Dyer and Wayne Routledge take up the flank roles with Pablo Hernandez still out injured. Presumably we’ll see Michu lead the attack once again.

There are two changes for United, with Nemanja Vidic making a belated return to the starting lineup in defence. He lines up next to the returning Jonny Evans, with Rio Ferdinand and Chris Smalling both making way. Phil Jones remains at right-back in the absence of the hamstrung Rafael.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

    1. NATSTER
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      things can change.. if anyone see him again, please check his latest notes.

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    2. JT's Dog
        12 years, 12 months ago

        He is right in middle, not very good game that

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      • Lateriser 12
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        I'd put my money on Stamford Bridge.

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      • Big_Andy_GAWA
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        That's yer man off The Apprentice, innit ?! ;oD

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    3. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Best replacement for Rafael?

      A.Vidic
      B.Luiz

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      1. Drip Doctor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Luiz.

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      2. Hazardous
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        vidic is tooo sloww

        vertoghan luiz nastasic johnson enrique mertesecker all suitble replacements

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    4. jonnybhoy
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Rooney for torres?

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      1. Hazardous
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        yes

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      2. OPTA FPL
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Considering Rooney & Nolan --> Torres & Walcott.
        Give me front 8

        Walcott / Mata / Silva / Bale / Puncheon
        Suarez / Torres / Van Persie

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        1. jonnybhoy
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Im considering the same.

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        2. Sting
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Nice front 8...what's your defence like ?

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        3. Stupendous
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Seriously though......

          How do you afford that ???????

          I am 7.6m off getting that!!!!

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    5. TheSteady ¤ Wines th…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Just seen the Williams/RVP incident. Pretty horrible stuff from Williams IMO. You can see he aims at RVP.

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      1. NATSTER
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Horrible, it was.. I think he should be punished for this behavior.

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      2. r0nh
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Yeah RVP should be banned for 3 games for headbutting him...

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      3. Pratik
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Everyone seems to be saying it was deliberate.....Maybe I really need to see the replay again. It felt accidental to me, as if he was trying to clear the ball, but completely ignored that RVP was right there....Stupid but not on purpose.

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    6. Nopli
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Cmon Torres Get one more 🙂

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      1. JT's Dog
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Or 5

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      2. Stupendous
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        How does this look if I do it right now before price rises.....be for a hit......(sorry i know the match is on)......

        Begovic
        Cameron ENrique Rafael
        Michu Bale Silva Mata
        berbatov Rooney Benteke

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        1. NATSTER
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Woww!!

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          1. Stupendous
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            You like??

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      3. United13
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Why are people transferring out Berbs? Really good fixtures for Fulham coming up...

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        1. Drip Doctor
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          7 GWs without a goal or assist.

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        2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          His form is crap.

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          1. Lateriser 12
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            You told me that when i told you about Sess. Just saying 😉

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          2. United13
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            True...well I am getting him in. Hopefully his form will turn. Any suggestions for my team Doos, seeing as though you are a trusted and well versed fpl manager?

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        3. NiceToMichu
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          7 2-pointers in a row

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        4. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          He's on a horrible run...and finds it horrible to run

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          1. Bolt-on
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            Ha

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        5. Pratik
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          You need to ask why? 7 weeks without assist/goal...His form is F.

          But if you wanna keep him, I certainly get it. Fulham's fixtures are really good, but without Ruiz they really struggle in attack. Don't know whether that will change against weaker teams.

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          1. Call Me Old Fashioned
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            I am keeping for Soton and that will be it.

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        6. Somalion
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          No Ruiz.

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        7. United13
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Cheers all. On that basis, I will be transferring him IN

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      4. r0nh
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4711647/prince-harry-kills-first-taliban-chief.html

        Prince Harry is a murderer.

        The Sun tells me that he is now a hero...

        He is a murderer whatever way you look at it.

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        1. Alan The Llama
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Can you do a citizen's arrest on him? I'd like to see that.

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        2. JT's Dog
            12 years, 12 months ago

            Isn't he the pilot?, gunner pressed the bullet

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            1. JT's Dog
                12 years, 12 months ago

                *button

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            2. heartsattack
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              There are rules in war Ron. So technically he is not a murderer.

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              1. The Bandit
                • 15 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                Technically he's not Royal.....

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            3. Somalion
              • 15 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              Not sure why killing a Taliban commander is a bad thing in your books Ron.

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              1. r0nh
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                The Taliban are innocent!!

                The western world are bullying them, for their own gain.

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                1. The Bandit
                  • 15 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  STONE HIM!!!!!!! 🙄

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                  1. r0nh
                    • 14 Years
                    12 years, 12 months ago

                    Hello 🙂

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                2. Somalion
                  • 15 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  Ahhh I see now. Of course Ronny boy, of course 😀

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            4. Ferris Bueller
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              Why read that rag?

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              1. r0nh
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                Sometimes they have pictures of celeb nip slips 🙂

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          • Lateriser 12
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            Atleast now i don't have to worry about sneaky pens for Hazard/Torres owners since Lamps is on the pitch.

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            1. OPTA FPL
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              and Luiz....

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              1. Mr.KK
                • 15 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                Who's the beautiful lady in your gravatar, Hanamichi?

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          • I taught Ashley Young how t…
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            Benteke is twice the player Torres is. Torres is always moaning!

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            1. Somalion
              • 15 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              ......

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          • Berbalove
            • 16 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            This may be a leading question, but what did people make of that attempted murder on RvP?

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            1. TheSteady ¤ Wines th…
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              Pretty horrible stuff from Williams IMO. You can see he aims at RVP.

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              1. TheSteady ¤ Wines th…
                • 13 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                Charge from FA would be appropriate.

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            2. Bubbles
              • 16 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              Horrendous. I presume the CPS will press charges immediately.

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            3. heartsattack
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              I think Ashley should get twenty years in prison and his family should be sent to Australia. Everybody called Williams should also have to change there name to Van Persie and place flowers on a shrine to Fergie on the anniversary of this day.

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              1. Berbalove
                • 16 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                May be a bit over top, but there should be some consequences.

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                1. heartsattack
                  • 14 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  No there shouldn't. Fergie saying he could've been killed is completely ridiculous. You could say someone could get killed every time an elbow is used in an ariel challenge.

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                2. Sparky6670
                  • 13 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  Consequences? Surely the appropriate punishment was given in a yellow card? How much harm can come from being hit by a football? Did anyone notice how quickly ZrVP jumped up clearly unharmed!

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                  1. Jumbo1988
                    • 13 Years
                    12 years, 12 months ago

                    But the name of the game when it comes to punishment is about "intent"... And judging by the replays there did seem to be some amount of intent from Williams... how stupid does one have to be to smash the ball at full force at a guy's head at full force when he is less than a couple of inches away?

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            4. Manani
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              absolute disgrace, but don't think williams will be made any charges, since there will be no way to prove that he intentionally did it.

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              1. TheSteady ¤ Wines th…
                • 13 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                Video footage where you can see he looks at him and blasts the ball.. could be used, although as you say.. you can't really PROVE it.

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                1. Billy Gilmore
                  • 13 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  He looks at the ball... 🙄

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                  1. heartsattack
                    • 14 Years
                    12 years, 12 months ago

                    Correct.

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                  2. Manani
                    • 14 Years
                    12 years, 12 months ago

                    it is like saying as if skying a penalty is intentional

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            5. Ricky - it doesn\'t ta…
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              Throw away the key *sarcastic voice*

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            6. Kostja
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              Probably the worst thing I have seen so far this season, straight up attempt to seriously hurt someone.

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            7. Pratik
              • 16 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              It felt accidental to me, as if he was trying to clear the ball, but completely ignored that RVP was right there….Stupid but not on purpose.

              I think I might need to see the replay again since everyone disagrees.

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              1. Berbalove
                • 16 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                Hard to say anything of the intentions, but it did not look good.

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            8. moment
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              The ball hit a player's head. That happens in football.

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              1. Berbalove
                • 16 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                Elbows occasionally hit heads as well, ask Mendes.

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              2. heartsattack
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                Not to Fergies players it doesn't.

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          • Hansel
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            Best def for 5.5 or less?

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          • Sparky6670
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            Death by football, nice little Xmas present from Fergie to make me chuckle!

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          • tajulariff
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            Torres u beauty....

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            1. Pratik
              • 16 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              F uck! Thought he scored once more....

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              1. tajulariff
                • 15 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                LOL. I wish he can get hattrick.....

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          • Somalion
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            Phil Dowd hungover 😀

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          • Alan The Llama
            • 16 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            Luiz goal

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          • Big_Andy_GAWA
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            Ashley Williams to lose his 3 BAPS as part-punishment, folks...?

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          • crystalpalaceRus
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            hazard assist?

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          • moment
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            David Luiz. Hazard Assist.

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          • Billy Gilmore
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            Luiz wagon

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          • The King
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            Are people really transferring Rooney/RVP out for Torres? Man U have the best attack in the league as well as favourable fixtures.

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            1. Pratik
              • 16 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              No one is transferring out RVP.....I don't think you are even allowed to think that. 🙂

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          • Berbalove
            • 16 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            How cool technique has David Luiz???

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            1. SuperOsçarBaby
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              Made from DROGBA

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          • Pat Mustard
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            Luiz bandwagon.

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          • JT's Dog
              12 years, 12 months ago

              Sweet

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            • blue cheese
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              Blimey! 😯

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              1. blue cheese
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                Hazard "assist"

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            • FPL Daniel
              • 16 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              Rafael out Luiz in, a new bandwagonnn!!!! I hate seeing his price rocket now

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            • Nopli
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              LUIZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

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            • Colonel Shoe è‚æ± 
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              just got in......rvp still delivering, guys a machine, makes it hard for a non owner to keep pace.......nowt but admiration tho

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            • SuperOsçarBaby
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              LUIZZZZZZZZZZZZ 😯

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            • Somalion
              • 15 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              LUIZ!!!! What a free!

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