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18 March 2011 1035 comments
Mark Mark
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We took a first look at Player Manager back in December with chapped lips, frozen fingers and the frustration of a postponed Premier League. The big freeze ripped through the fixture list and stalled our “hands-on” review. Freshly defrosted in time for Spring however, I’ve spent the last couple of Gameweeks hitting the game hard in order to run the rule over this new Fantasy Football arrival.

As we revealed in our earlier Preview – this game takes a unique stance on the Fantasy theme. The “Player Station” is at the core of Player Manager, with the auto-auction carried out on deadline, key to your Gameweek fortunes. Unlike other Fantasy Games, it’s this list of players that decides the eleven that represents you in a given Gameweek. You can’t directly pick your team, you can only allocate ranks and maximum bids to players and sit back and wait for the deadline day auction to do its thing. It quickly becomes obvious then that learning the intricacies and strategies of this process is more vital than mastering the basic Fantasy ruleset on show.

This can be a double-edged sword. Player Manager can feel detached from the player selection process – at first it almost feels too much out of your control. While adding bids and ranks to your player list has a direct influence on your starting XI, you can find yourself hankering after direct control.

The flipside to this is that this game generates it’s own unique level of anticipation once the 11.30am Gameweek deadline passes. Scanning your lineup once the auction has taken place to discover that top targets have been grabbed offers an immediate sense of satisfaction even before a ball has been kicked. The other major bonus is that your Player Station list can be used to generate any number of teams – so you can create multiple teams to enter multiple leagues from just one master list of bids and ranks for no additional effort. That, in a nutshell, is the real beauty of this concept.

The game has improved iteratively since launch and recent steps to mark injured and suspended players and remove them from the auto allocation pool is a major improvement. Previously Player Manager could dish out injured players to fill in the gaps left by the auction – a source of much frustration which, thankfully, now looks a thing of the past. Ironically, the astute Fantasy Manager can use this to their advantage – with Player Manager red tagging injured players, last minute team news can come into play and those up to speed and armed with fresh knowledge can grab some auction bargains.

Player Manager allows you to enter Solo Leagues of 5,10 or 15 players, with each entry costing 10 credits costing £1 each. With an initial stake of 150 credits or £15, I’ve been able to more than double that in a couple of Gameweeks – and that’s someone who is a total newbie to the game and still selects Matt Taylor in the Scout Picks. The fact I’ve enjoyed success so quickly, suggests that, despite the apparently complexity, Player Manager can be grasped easily and success can come quickly.

I also profited from the “Double Up” mechanic – an element of the game that is perhaps more difficult to grasp and likely to be ignored by new players. That’s a real shame, as it can be key to fetching decent winnings.

The “Double Up” basically challenges the player to back his median score across all their teams for that Gameweek. If that score beats the median score for all managers in their chosen Double Up league, the stake is… guess what? Doubled. You can choose to enter 50, 100 or 150 credit leagues – clearly then, if you’ve the balls to back yourself, it’s a quick way of raking in credits.

There’s nothing like success to help fuel continued play and Player Manager will quickly hook you in once you feel you’ve unlocked it’s secrets and strategies. Maybe the same auction tactics won’t work every week, maybe luck plays a part but, if you earn some winnings early on, you’ll almost certainly come back to try your luck again.

Continued play reveal some minor frustrations. The lack of active Managers in the game can cause league entries to be refunded, simply because leagues can’t be filled. The site itself is also not without issues. A Flash based affair – it suffers from the occasional glitch and can be a little unwieldy at times.

Some processes need tightening, feedback increased and improved – managers need assurances that they are under control of their path through the game, even when the auction temporarily wrestles this back.

Look beyond these issues and there’s not doubt that Player Manager has huge potential. The auction process works well and streamlines player selection over multiple team entries. When you get it right and see many of your top targets across your teams on a Saturday morning, the warm fuzz of anticipation is a new and welcome sensation that very few Fantasy games can produce. That’s only bettered once the points start ticking as the live scoring commentary rolls, and finally of course, when the credits are dished out 48-hours later.

Undoubtedly, more players need to experience this game and the concept is certainly deserving of increased attention. Player Manager has a part to play in this recruitment drive by ironing out wrinkles and opening more friendly arms to new players, but there is plenty to gain from diving in right now. Player Manager feels different enough to warrant a place alongside traditional Fantasy Football efforts and the rewards feel tangible and within reach. Making this game part of your Saturday morning ritual can literally pay off and it has the potential to become a permanent fixture.

Player Manager and Fantasy Football Scout will be launching a new Scout League tournament, running from Gameweek 31 until the end of the season. Player Manager are donating £400 of prizes, split amongst three winners. Full details on this will be published next week, so if you fancy that and want to use Gameweek 30 to familiarise yourself with the game, you can get involved right here.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. hillbillypete
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    CHELTENHAM

    anyone have a go on first race?

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    1. SuperDorrans
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      Yep, Sam Winner let me down.

      Only had a quid on him though!

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      1. hillbillypete
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        i had him too. E/W but PP arent paying out. though it was first 4 in that race?

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        1. Bigo1
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          I had Zarkandar at 15/2, nice.
          Next one Alarazi

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    2. IAmTheWalrus
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      I had 3rd place so got money back

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  2. cucumber
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    who to bench..?

    Foster (Robinson)
    Walker Coleman R.Johnson Carr (Vidic)
    Nani Young O’Hara Meireles Van Der Vaart
    Suarez Rooney(C) RVP

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    1. jamsiep
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      Is it not obvious?

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    2. 1966 was a great year for E…
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      Carr and O'Hara

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  3. SuperDorrans
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    All gooooooooooood? Taken 4 point hit.

    Begovic
    Huth, Coleman, Walker
    Nani, A Young, Nasri, Adam
    Rooney (c), Tevez, Van Persie

    Foster, Barton, R Johnson, Djourou.

    ?????????????

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    1. jamsiep
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      Yep, all is good.

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    2. Ole.
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      Pretty good, almost as good as mine 😉

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    3. Made of Stone
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      Top line-up!

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      1. SuperDorrans
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        Bang tidy!

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  4. percussion
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    Are any of the following worth a 4pt hit?

    a)Tevez->Van Persie
    b)Barton->VanderVart
    c)Silva->Lampard
    d)Odemwingie->Carroll

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    1. Lrf
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      Considering Tevez->RVP for a hit myself.

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    2. knightsofcydonia
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      yeah A or B

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  5. George Agdgdgwngo
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    Guys which team do you reckon is better for the run in:-

    A
    Foster, Begovic,
    Kelly, R Johnson, Walker, Bramble, Coleman
    Lamps, Nani, Adam, Nasri, Bale,
    Rooney, Tevez, Bent

    B
    Foster, Begovic,
    Kelly, R Johnson, Walker, Bramble, Coleman
    Lamps, Nani, Adam, VDV, Barton,
    Rooney, Tevez, RVP

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    1. Made of Stone
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      B

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  6. Perthite
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    Team for this GW:

    Foster (Al Hasbi)
    Huth Walker Coleman (2:R.Johnson 3:Baird)
    Nani VdV Nasri A.Young Adam
    Tevez RvP(c) (2:Odemwingie)

    Does that look like the correct substitutes and order?
    (4 point hit taken for Berb->RvP and Vidic->Walker)

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    1. dogtanion
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      RvP captain...great minds.

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      1. Perthite
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        (* 1:R.Johnson)

        re:RvP - I think a lot of people will be picking him as capt. I am not totally sold yet and may change my mind.

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  7. shiffo
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    Who would you guys bench this gw, Tevez, Adam or Beckford? I'm thinking Beckford.
    Also, playing with 10-men team, would you pay 4 pts for Raphael-Smalling?? Paying points for a defender most of the time doesn't work out but I'm playing with 10! thx

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    1. johnbobman
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      Why would you bench a person who's playing making it a 10 man team? Shouldn't you just leave all 3 of them in?

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      1. Gav
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        Formation limitations I presume, 3 defenders out means 1 will have to play and get 0

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        1. shiffo
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          Exactly, formation limitations means I need 3 defenders and I can only field two! So, you'd bench Beckford??

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  8. Admiral Stark
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    Hi everyone, everything feels wrong with my team? Someone please RMT 🙂

    In other news, what are the chances of Berbatov starting against Bolton?

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    1. SuperDorrans
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      Do Kolarov > Bardsley and Saha > Van Persie?

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      1. Admiral Stark
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        Thanks...well Why do Kolarov out? Wont start? What dyou reckon I should do with Berbatov? dude's been rotting in my bench...

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        1. SuperDorrans
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          Rotation risk, rubbish fixtures, rubbish footballer.

          I'd keep Berbatov this week, too much of a risk to get rid of him when you can easily just transfer out Saha for Van Persie anyway.

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          1. Admiral Stark
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            cheers then

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        2. Granville
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          • 16 Years
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          Boateng will start left back since Zabaleta has gone home on compassionate leave. He is also far more solid a defender than Kolorov.
          As far as left wing goes, there are options including putting Johnson out there, he may not start.

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          1. Admiral Stark
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            dankzij 🙂

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    2. Kings of Lyon ★
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      4.7 & 32%

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      1. Admiral Stark
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        lol, what does 4.7 mean?

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        1. Kings of Lyon ★
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          4.7 outta 10 on your RMT

          Kolarov & Berba - rooney & walker

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          1. Admiral Stark
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            I must've had been doing really poor then. haha 4.7?
            thanks though, Walker is really good. I'll take that

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            1. Kings of Lyon ★
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              I dono i'm pretty harsh few players like elokobi and lennon i dont like maybe was bit too critical

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  9. Kings of Lyon ★
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    What the chances that our good friend zigic will fall in price tonight? i see hes around 28% on totalfpl

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    1. hillbillypete
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      cant see it

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      1. Kings of Lyon ★
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        Thats what I want to hear 🙂

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      2. markieffm
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        Hes injured isnt he?

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        1. Kings of Lyon ★
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          not sure about the injury but he dropped the other day

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  10. Raheem's perm
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    Got Tevez, Zigic and Torres at the mo. Hate Torres but want to keep him for GW33. Would like to get in RVP and Rooney for the other 2 but can't afford. So thinking of RVP and Hernandez although scared that a) Rooney will score a lot more points and b) SAF will start Berba tomo. Any thoughts welcome!

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    1. markieffm
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      its looking more and more likely that berbs will start as he hasnt started the last 2 and hernandez played midweek... We wont have any idea until the morning though...

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  11. markieffm
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    Anyone care to have a quick look at my team.

    I am thinking of just using my freebie for Djourou>Walker and waiting till next week to get some chelski in...

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  12. SuperDorrans
    • 16 Years
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    Anyone fancy Jara captain this weekend?

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    1. The Stock
      • 15 Years
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      Jara does.

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      1. SuperDorrans
        • 16 Years
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        I'm serious.....

        Dorrans out, Mulumbu late fitness, he could be OOP! 😉

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        1. SuperDorrans
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          fitness test*

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          1. Jas aka The age of Ozil is …
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            With Woy as manager? No way!! Are they on the road?

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            1. SuperDorrans
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              At home to Arsenal.

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              1. Jas aka The age of Ozil is …
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                If they are playing Arsenal, then it's worth a punt. The Gunners are spineless these days. HAHAAH JENS LEHMAN, sad!!!

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            2. The Stock
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              *away

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        2. dogtanion
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          More like POO!

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        3. The Stock
          • 15 Years
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          LOOOOOOLZ!

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  13. IAmTheWalrus
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    lets see it dirar

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  14. knightsofcydonia
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    Hows my team for this week lads?

    Foster
    Walker RJohnson Huth Coleman
    Nasri Lampard A Young VDV
    Rooney (c) RVP

    subs: Barton, Zigic, Djourou.

    cheers.

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    1. Fratboy
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      very nice, could be great

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  15. Carling2K
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    First RMT post but struggling with WC this week.

    Mignolet Foster
    Smalling Luiz Carr Walker Simpson
    Lampard Young A Van der Vaart Nani Adam
    Van Persie Welbeck Rooney

    Too generic? Tempted by Bale&Carroll instead of VdV&Welbeck...

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  16. Jas aka The age of Ozil is …
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    Did anyone see Balotelli's red card...The standard of match calling has fallen to an all-time LOW! Criminal offense against the game, the whole officiating crew should be banned

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    1. The Stock
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      14 years, 9 months ago

      My 'crap detector' has just gone haywire.

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    2. Granville
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 16 Years
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      What are you complaining about, the challenge or the fact that he was red carded for it?

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      1. Jas aka The age of Ozil is …
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        The fact he was Red Carded for it! Too many divers in the game

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        1. 1966 was a great year for E…
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          He didn't dive - he got kicked in the chest (with a follow through onto his thigh). Much like you, Balotelli is a twat.

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          1. Jas aka The age of Ozil is …
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            Did you actually see the tackle, tawt?

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            1. 1966 was a great year for E…
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              Yes, 'he got kicked in the chest (with a follow through onto his thigh)' is exactly what happened.

              Seeing your comment on Ben Arfa, apologies for calling you a twat - it's not very nice to call 'challenged' people twats...

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        2. Jas aka The age of Ozil is …
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          Actually, it reminded me of that DIVER from Newcastle that broke his leg when he was trying trapped between going down easy and making a pass.

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        3. Granville
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 9 months ago

          What on earth are you on about? It was one of the clearest most obvious red cards this season and I don't know a single city fan who supports him now. Are you a city fan?

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          1. The Stock
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            Wouldn't waste your time Granville. This lad has to blend his food before eating it.

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        4. TommyK
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
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          You're clearly a WUM- first that stuff about Milan, now this. I'm not biting...........

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          1. Jas aka The age of Ozil is …
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            Seriously, not this time. He won the ball with that tackle, and it wasn't as dangerous as people made it out to be. Stoke players make tackles like that every match day.

            I also don't like City, their owner disgusts me

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              1. Jas aka The age of Ozil is …
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                I'm just saying football has gone soft, and officiating is at an all-time low. The two are clearly correlated.

                "chic or the egg" kind of thing

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            1. The Stock
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              Does he spoon up to your mum every night?

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            2. FPL Daniel
              • 16 Years
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              Jas that was a karate kick not football, what's up with u, I don't get it.

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              1. Jas aka The age of Ozil is …
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                ok, compare that tackle with de jong's during the WC final...If you had to give out only 1 red card who would get it, De jong or Balotelli?

                Look at the Intent..

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        5. njfsdkffslkf
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          JAS is either the best WUM ever or completely out of touch with reality.

          Its hard to know

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    3. Fratboy
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      I will never respect you.

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    4. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
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      That was awful tackle against Popov. I really respect Popov as a player and he is not angry player. I will never pick Baloteli for my fantasy squad. I think his start was scandalous. He should get 5 match ban .

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      1. Jas aka The age of Ozil is …
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        It was an awful tackle, but where was the INTENT to do harm? It was a schoolboy tackle, a yellow maybe. He should be mocked for it, but not sent off. I lost respect for this Popov guy, he made a total meal of it.

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        1. njfsdkffslkf
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          Your an idiot or a WUM. Either way its pointless replying

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          1. Jas aka The age of Ozil is …
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            Sticks and stones. Give a counter argument and don't just hurl your feces at me?

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            1. njfsdkffslkf
              • 16 Years
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              Have a look up to the countless comments above for your "counter arguement".
              I hope for your sake your on the wind up.

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  17. The Stock
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    Not selling Tev, but really want RVP.

    Tis a cruel world.

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  18. Admiral Stark
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    Whoa...Player Manager is hard to use

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  19. Lrf
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 9 months ago

    Think VDV will play this weekend? Will the spurs starting XI be out before dealine? Looks doubtfull, but I gotta ask.

    Thinking about Arteta->VDV and for a hit: Tevez->RVP (I am #2 in my mini league, and both #1 and #3 got Tevez). How does that look?

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  20. 1966 was a great year for E…
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    Team after 4 point hit will be:

    Begovic (Foster)
    Baines Coleman Carr (Kolarov Djourou)
    Nani VDV Nasri Adam (Thomas)
    Rooney RVP Saha

    Worth doing Djourou to Walker for another 4 points?

    If I want rid of Djourou before GW33 I'll need to take a hit (other transfers planned), so maybe I should just do it now.

    On the other hand, internationals coming up, might be better to save the 4 points and see if I get injuries to more important players.

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    1. The Stock
      • 15 Years
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      I hate taking hits on defenders. Rarely works out in your favour imo.

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      1. 1966 was a great year for E…
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        Yeah, I think you're right. Need to hope that one of Coleman or Kolarov starts. Coleman should with Arteta (and half the Everton midfield) out, do you think Kolarov will start?

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        1. Fratboy
          • 14 Years
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          he should do, the fact he scored last night should be enough reason for him to start

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          1. 1966 was a great year for E…
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            Yeah, hopefully, ta

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        2. The Stock
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          Hmmmm....flip a coin. I think yes.

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          1. 1966 was a great year for E…
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            Cheers Stock

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    2. Made of Stone
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      I'm in a similar boat - got to be strong and not take too many hits if you have an XI which will start which you seem to have.

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  21. SMOOTH
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
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    is tevez to RVP worth a -4?
    what are peoples thoughts of bringing in torres starting week 31.
    dont want to bring in rooney as he has a blank in 33 and then tevez is the better option 34 onwards. thoughts?

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    1. SMOOTH
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      anyone????

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      1. Made of Stone
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
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        no

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        1. FPL Daniel
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          no IMO

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  22. MADE IN CHARLTON
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    Balotelli. Amazing that a bib would cause so much trouble...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZgbwsy0oN4&feature=related

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    1. Bob.
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      Haha! He is clearly not the brightest bulb around...

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      1. FPL Daniel
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        LOL

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  23. Bob.
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    Teams a bit of a mess at the moment with all these injury doubts and injuries!
    Foster (Harper)
    Coleman Huth Djourou (Kelly Kolarov)
    nani(c) VdV Nasri Lampard Bentley
    Tevez Zigic (Odemwingie)

    Have used one transfer alread yto do arteta to nasri. Definitely have to make one more transfer just in case Bentley and Zigic both dont play in the weekend!

    Was thinking of doing Kelly or Djourou to Walker or Luiz. Kelly will be back soon enough I think? But Liverpool have tough fixtures! When do we think Djoruou will be back? I would get Walker in but dont fancy Villa to keep clean sheets at all especially with Dunne and Collins out they look very weak at the back! Luiz has a tough enough fixture at home to Man City though but having a Chelsea defdner sounds better than having a Villa one!
    Any other suggestions? Cheers!

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    1. Fratboy
      • 14 Years
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      Walker is a good choice for two reasons:

      -price
      -assist potential

      A clean sheet would just be an amazing bonus!

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      1. Bob.
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        Thanks! Yeah Walkers price is very good. I will be having Walker and Luiz anyway so price is not the matter at all its more a matter of who ya think will score more points ?! I suppose Walker does have tasty fixtures. Thanks also MADeofStone

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  24. Tuchap - Lurker
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    Captain Rooney or RVP?

    My Rival has rooney, dont think hes bought rvp in this week.
    Rooney is safe option but is it worth going for RVP?

    Opinions appreciated 🙂

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    1. Made of Stone
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
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      Roonster - just fancy him to be lucrative Vs Bolton (plus I don't have RvP......yet)

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    2. MegaSalviO
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      I am leaning towards RVP at the moment.

      I have one for you. Who should i play Brunt or Odem?

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      1. Made of Stone
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
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        How about Brunt - could be a good case for BP if they get a draw or win?

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        1. Tuchap - Lurker
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          Yeah id go for Brunt

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          1. MegaSalviO
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            Brunt it is then. Unless i change my plans of getting Rooney and VDV to getting Hernandez,VDV,Lampard for 8 point hit. The first one will be 4 point hit.

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            1. Tuchap - Lurker
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              14 years, 9 months ago

              the first one sounds better to me

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  25. Blyth Spartans
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    14 years, 9 months ago

    As a man utd fan im not happy with this draw. Id rather have anyone than chelsea apart from barca. Yes that includes real madrid.

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    1. Granville
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 9 months ago

      But we don't have to fly, that is a huge bonus for the league games that surround the tie.

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      1. Fratboy
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 9 months ago

        do you think that makes such a big difference? (not being mean)

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        1. Granville
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          • 16 Years
          14 years, 9 months ago

          Absolutely. Imagine we'd drawn Shaktar Donetsk, that's not a pleasant trip. Look at United's record in games following European away legs over the years. It always has an effect.

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          1. TommyK
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            • 16 Years
            14 years, 9 months ago

            It's true that the scond leg being at OT is a big boost, but I still don't fancy our head to head record against Chelsea.......

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    2. Fratboy
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 9 months ago

      I agree, I would've loved Real Madrid, these will be 2 borrrrinnnngggggg fixtures. Like it isn't boring enough already?

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    3. IAmTheWalrus
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      14 years, 9 months ago

      dont agree

      we get home fixture second, sweet
      if ( when ) we beat chelsea we have a lovely semi , so wont meet barca till the final should they get there!

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  26. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 9 months ago

    Just up (paddys dy hangover etc) united - chelsea and real - surs, quit a draw!

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  27. TommyK
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    • 16 Years
    14 years, 9 months ago

    Anyone else here actually quite fancy Spurs' chances against Real?

    I feel the ocassion could really spur them on and they'll be under far less pressure than Madrid.......

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    1. SuperDorrans
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      14 years, 9 months ago

      Nope, I think Madrid are going to win the whole thing.

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      1. TommyK
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        • 16 Years
        14 years, 9 months ago

        😯

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  28. SuperDorrans
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    14 years, 9 months ago

    Love the Champions League draw as a neutral.

    The two most attractive ties involve all the English teams. 🙂

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    1. njfsdkffslkf
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 9 months ago

      Barcelona and Shaktar beg to differ.

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      1. SuperDorrans
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 9 months ago

        Obviously that will be a tie, but Madrid/Spurs & Chelsea/Man Utd are more attractive!

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        1. SuperDorrans
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 9 months ago

          good tie*

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        2. njfsdkffslkf
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          14 years, 9 months ago

          Your speaking from an English perspective.

          United- Chelsea has all the hallmarks of two tight low scoring games.

          Then Real are managed by Mourinho who isnt exactly cavalier.

          The most attractive in footballing terms in Barcelona - Skaktar. They both play attractive free flowing football no matter what the situation.

          And Shaktar have alot of under rated talent.

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          1. Kings of Lyon ★
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 9 months ago

            I agree completely with this!

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      2. Kings of Lyon ★
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 9 months ago

        As do I -

        Barca Shaktar will be the tie of the round imo

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    2. TommyK
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 9 months ago

      Can't see United chelsea being exciting, I doubt there'll be more than one or two goals over both legs.

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  29. IAmTheWalrus
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    14 years, 9 months ago

    hey all,

    injury wise how am i looking?
    are vidic and djourou my only concerns?

    thinking either go mad and play WC
    or just do silva -> nasri

    ?

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  30. statto
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    14 years, 9 months ago

    play wc or not? Been wrecking my head all wk, if i dont team will be foster
    carr,walker,huth
    nani,vdv,lamps,young
    tevez,vp,zigic.
    subs.myhill,barton,simpson,clark.

    Wc team. foster
    walker,bramble,dawson
    nani,lamps,vdv,young/nasri
    rvp,rooney,welbeck
    subs.mignolet,adam,carr,simpson.

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    1. knightsofcydonia
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      14 years, 9 months ago

      I think your teams good without using the WC

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      1. Dago
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 9 months ago

        +1

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      2. statto
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        14 years, 9 months ago

        cheers its just rooney that i want in as think he'll score big in the next few weeks and would have to take a hit to get him in so dats why i had wc in my head.

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