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23 November 2013 3106 comments
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The remainder of Saturday has big boots to fill. Following on from a tumultuous Merseyside goal-fest, a quintet of three o’clock kick-offs will make a bid to keep the goal count and points tallies ticking.

Fantasy managers will be focused mainly on the Emirates where the Gunners are the latest to face up to a resolute Southampton rearguard. With many holding three, four or even five assets going into this clash – the outcome looks pivotal to our Gameweek totals.

Elsewhere, Fulham look to revive their fortunes at home to Michael Laudrup’s Swansea, Hull look to protect their formidable home record against struggling Palace and Gus Poyet’s Black Cats bid to continue their rebuilding process with a tricky visit to the Britannia.

With red-hot Newcastle hosting a buoyant Norwich at St James’ Park and Chelsea making the trip to West Ham for the 5.30pm kick-off, there’s every chance that the momentum from the dramatic early kick-off at Goodison can be maintained.

Andy’s efforts on our Twitter feed brings you all the team news from today’s matches, while our Dugout Discussion chatroom remains open and will remain so right through until the final whistle at the Boleyn Ground.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. FISSH
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    I need Rooney (C) to deliver big time!

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    1. super zlatan
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Defo mate.

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  2. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Ok concentrate on tomorrow. Will Jumanji finally start? I think Nani won't so its between him, Young, Valencia and Kagawa. Ouch that is too many I might sell him

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  3. super zlatan
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    27 points with Rooney (c), aguero, sess, Whitt to go.

    Seems quite shit to be honest.

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    1. Deulo10
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      If it makes you feel better I only have Rooney (c) and Baker to go. 33 points

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    2. @ocprodigy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      46 (-20), with Rooney, Benteke, Nasty and Sess to go.
      That said, my squad looks in good shape for after this week ha.

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      1. isacki: full casual
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        It's the score before hits that shows the health of your squad so things are looking good.

        Liking the bravery of the -20 😀

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    1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      aye very funny, Deulo10 posted it a couple of pages back

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    2. TheSteady ¤ Wines th…
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      ahahahaahahah 😆 Great man!

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    3. Hybrid.power
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Always good to make fun of yourself

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    4. Jimmers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Pocchetino won't be amused

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  5. Berbalove
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Who to captain next week, Aguero or Suarez?

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    1. La Roja
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Kun

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    2. Make United Great Again
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Suarez.

      But then Kun is a great option so hard 🙁

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  6. Zep
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    It's such BS that Baines loses an assist at the same time Hazard gains one...

    Rules or no rules, Baines was at least trying to create a scoring opportunity with his FK cross...

    Hazard looks like he was shooting, not at all trying to CREATE a scoring opportunity for another teammate...

    So, IMO the logical decision would be to award Baines with an assist and not Hazard......

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    1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      yep, sucks but dems the rules....gravity issue

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    2. Jimmers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Them's the rules. No system is perfect

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    3. Shifty
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Yeah, unfortunate that FPL draws the line for a rebounded pass being NO assist and a rebounded shot being an assist.

      If it was clear intent to create a goal, it should be given. But that opens up another can of worms over the definition of "intent"

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    4. The3rdTurd
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Well you need rules, otherwise it's a complete free for all.

      Anyone bitching about the way the rules are written should try and come up with their own rule formulation that allows the points to mirror the reality of every single situation. It's just not possible.

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      1. GreenWindmill
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        Voice of reason. Same applies to bonus points.

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      2. Zep
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        I sent out a rather lengthy email today that proposes a solution on issues like this...

        I'd be happy to forward it to you if you made your contact details available to me...

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        1. The3rdTurd
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 2 months ago

          Sure, you can use my gmail address 'bestace@'

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    5. Berbalove
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Logically, yes. But the rules seem to contradict logic. At least in this specific instance. DO we want the man in the stand back?

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    6. Tangogooner
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Never mind it's just a 3 point loss in a fantasy football game

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  7. HuttonDressedasLahm
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    What happened in Almeria? Current time is 45+10

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      13 and counting

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    2. Declan
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      It's HT ?

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    3. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Don't worry, it's livescores being a d&£k!

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  8. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Really need a kun fail tomorrow and yaya.... Need to gain some ground

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    1. @ocprodigy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Agreed. 1-0 to City with a Nasty header would be beautiful.

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  9. onionbarje
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Funny thing, when I spent a lot of time on here and thinking about FPL, i was getting nothing out of my gwks.

    But now i am busy with uni and have less time to think about transfers, captain choices etc, i am suddenly on to do better than 6/11 of the previous gwks and i still have players to come.

    Is it the year of the casuals?

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    1. Mini Mahouse
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Excactly same thing applies to me. I had a terrible start and I was always on here trying to find out what to do next. Looking at RMT all the time.

      Last weeks I have barely visited the website due to university and other things. Gotten 72, 63, 72 last 3 GW's and 60 points (with BAPS) this week with Rooney and Januzaj left.

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  10. Bouncebackability
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    There is no difference between the Suarez assist of last week and Barkley's this week, yet one was given and one wasn't. Poor decisions whichever way you look at it. In my opinion neither are assists, but if you give Suarez his you have to give Barkley one here - Even though it contradicts their own rules. Aguero got a dodgy one in the 7-0 Norwich massacre.

    The fact that the Suarez one resulted in an own goal by Amorbewhatsisname, is, in effect, no different to Barkley's one as Mirallas scored too.

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  11. JK - Cønt ⭐
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    how to get Theo

    a) Sell Oscar (possibly coupled with Brady out)

    b) Rooney and Brady to Remy and Theo

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    1. joinho
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      B

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    2. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      b

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    3. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Find another way

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      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        Migs, Lewis

        Terry, Williams, Burner, Coleman, Clyne

        Oscar, Barkley, Brady, Ramsey, Sess

        Rooney, Kun, Suarez

        1.2 in bank

        how would you do it?

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    4. super zlatan
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      It's tough mate. Probably B but it could easily backfire.

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    5. AAAAA
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      I'm going to keep Oscar one more week and then take him out just before the Christmas rotation kicks in for Theo. Seems wrong taking him out after such a good performance..

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    6. Tangogooner
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Wait another week or two

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  12. joinho
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Roughly what time are baps added and scores updated?

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    1. Declan
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      GW13

      Migs
      Rat Ivan Mbiwa
      Ravel Cout Ozil Hazar'
      Studge Rooney Lukaku

      1FT .5 in bank.

      Was going to WC, to work Suarez into my team, or will the above do?

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      1. Declan
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        😳

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  13. Raheem's perm
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Sorry as this has prob been asked a million times today but will Barkley get the assist today? Also just to let people know I went to Arsenal today and Ward-Prowse took every set piece and delivery was outstanding just about every time. Absolute bargain at his price if you ask me!

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    1. Dr Dream
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Yeah he is..I can't see him being shifted.His delivery is as good as anybody's I've seen in a long time.

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  14. GreennRed
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    http://tunein.com/radio/talkSPORT-1089-s17077/

    Collymore on Talksport, fans phone-in. Quality radio 🙂

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  15. rohan
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Average predictions?

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    1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      30 odd

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    2. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      37

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      1. Tim Canterbury
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        way too high imo

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    3. the cromulent one
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      28. Dead teams already skewing the average.

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    4. isacki: full casual
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      A bunch of fairly high ownership strikers scored well (Giroud, Sturridge, Suarez, Lukaku). Hazard and Oscar have some ownership and did well.

      Clean sheets will be thin on the ground though. The most captained player was probably RVP who hasn't played yet.

      Around 30 I think.

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  16. onionbarje
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    FPL Towers are as consistent as BPL referees. FACT

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      True
      In fact I want an apology 😉

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    2. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Expecting a phone call from Martin Axford on Monday morning with an apology.

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      1. onionbarje
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        we are all waiting for that call

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  17. Colonel Shoe 肝池
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    so did wally look threatening today....... enough to swap ramsey for ??

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    1. Jimmers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      no real impact - going to take a while to get his mojo back

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      1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        cheers

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  18. Viper
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    I eventually got a ticket for the game 20 mins before kick off.

    I even got to meet Robert Pires. What a day 😀

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    1. super zlatan
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Awesome mate. Good match?

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    2. New Ghost
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      SO JEALOUS

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    3. Dr Dream
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Brilliant..pleased for you.

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    4. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Congrats mate, hope you enjoyed it. 😀

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    5. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      glad to hear it worked out in the end

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    6. Declan
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Delighted.

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    7. Alton E.
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Nice!

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    8. AAAAA
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      How did you meet Pires? He was one of my favourite players while growing up..

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      1. Viper
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        He was signing autographs in the club shop! 🙂

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    9. GreenWindmill
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Ah, a feel good story to end the day's football! Congrats Viper 🙂

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    10. Viper
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Got there in the end so im delighted! Wasn't arsenals best performance but thrilled with the win!

      Cheers lads

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  19. nadman89
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    26 with aguero (c) benteke januzaj baker zabaleta and evra left , seems good , saved the FT this week

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  20. the cromulent one
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    45 (-4) (including projected BAPs) with Rooney(c), Benteke, Sessegnon & Myhill to come.
    So far so good.

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  21. The ginger cafu
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    What happened to Baines assist?

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  22. 1-1 at Newcastle
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Mesut Ozil tweets #arsenal4life

    me: http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/veronicaandbetty/media/fainting.gif.html

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    1. New Ghost
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      The man does know how to use social media to endear himself to the fans; I'll give him that.

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      1. AAAAA
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        the man's PR team.

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  23. BONZ
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Hmmmmmmmm
    Just watched Chelsea and catching on the days EPL. Some great action it seems but Arsenal winning again keeps pressure on the chasing pack, they are definitely title contenders & Giroud is a striker to be taken seriously. Was there an explanation for Lovrens omission?

    Liverpools defence is going to cause the key reason for any title challenge floundering as BR continues to tinker with the back 4 or 5 although Lukaku again proves he is a monster of a striker that should NOT be dropped!

    Any one care to round up the news from other games?

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  24. Declan
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    GW13:

    Migs
    Rat Ivan Mbiwa
    Ravel Cout Ozil Hazar'
    Studge Rooney Lukaku

    1FT .5 in bank.

    Was going to WC, to work Suarez into my team, or will the above do?

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    1. Jinswick
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Studge & Ozil -> Suarez & ermm, someone

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      1. Tangogooner
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        Hazard or wally

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  25. OrmskirkFC
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Strange situation for me:

    Rooney (Captain) / Hazard (Vice Captain)
    Mirallas is first sub

    Do I hope Rooney falls ill and doesn't play tomorrow?

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    1. floydy_floyd
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Obv

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    2. the cromulent one
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Last year, I had Rooney(c) and Bale(vc) the week where Bale had his hat trick. I've never been so happy to see my players not play.

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    3. Berbalove
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Do you expect Rooney to outscore Hazard? If not, you're best off with Rooney not playing.

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  26. nadman89
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Is it crazy to think of having rooney and rvp after the next GW ? very easy fixtures for both ahead , il couple em with suarez

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    1. Brian (Not the Messiah)
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      it is crazy since for players of that value you need them to be captaincy options

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      1. Berbalove
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        YOu could argue that they are, though.

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    2. beepingmeeping
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Not crazy. But there are better players than RVP just because of the money. I'd prefer Aguero, Rooney, Suarez and spend the extra 2 mil in other positions.

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  27. Jinswick
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Kun(c) ers, what score would you take now?

    I think I'd take 7 points.

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    1. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      As long as he matches suarez i'm happy

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    2. nadman89
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      i think id want at least 9 meaning 18 total

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    3. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      You lot can have 7, i'll take 16(2 goals, 1 assist, 3 baps) from Rooney 😉

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    4. Berbalove
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      I'd take a goal and some baps.

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  28. Brian (Not the Messiah)
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    considering a Liverpool Triple up through christmas since they don't have Champions league duties

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    1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      yeh ive gone for that with suarez, cout n gerrard this week despite the madness of a derby......may roll with it for a while ...................

      means no chelsea or walcot tho

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      1. Brian (Not the Messiah)
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        I've currently got Suarez+Mignolet... I know mig has been so rubbish, but I think I might as well ride it out until Jan now...

        So I could just get Cout or Gerrard for Ozil

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        1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 2 months ago

          Has mig really been rubbish? I think he's on of, f not the top scoring keeper innthe game. And is only 5.5... What more do you want from a keeper?

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  29. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Dead teams to do well this week.

    Chelsea and Lukaku did well.

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    1. beepingmeeping
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      And good players that kept Lukaku and realise Chelsea have really good fixtures coming up and are a solid team

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  30. Granville
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Is there any difference to Suarez assist from that Gerrard cross last gameweek and the Barkley one today?

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    1. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      This.. Suarez owner here but while watchin the game i assumed he would not get the assist

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    2. Bouncebackability
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Nope. Made that point above somewhere. Neither should be an assist but if you give one you give the other.

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    3. Leaf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      I think they're saying Barkley never actually touched it

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      1. Bouncebackability
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        Yup. Wrong aren't they.

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        1. Leaf
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 2 months ago

          Hard to tell, looked like he did but the key moment was blocked by mignolet on the BT coverage I saw .

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