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9 December 2013 4274 comments
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Nine down, one to go as Swansea welcome Hull to the Liberty and hand us some Monday night football to sink our teeth into. Michael Laudrup’s side have offered Fantasy managers a strong source of points at both ends of the pitch in front of their own fans – three of the last four home games have produced a clean sheet and three goals or more for the Welsh outfit:

Jonjo Shelvey’s 14-point haul in the previous Gameweek saw the former Liverpool man earn himself over 161,000 new owners prior to the weekend deadline, though with Curtis Davies back on board after serving a one-match suspension, the Tigers will be hoping to turn in a resilient display.

The big news is that Michu is fit and available to lead the line for the hosts after recovering from ankle and knee problems. He replaces Alvaro Vazquez up top in one of three changes by Laudrup, as Gerhard Tremmel and Nathan Dyer come in for Michel Vorm and Alex Pozuelo. Robbie Brady drops out for the Tigers after a series of disappointing displays since returning from injury.

As always, our Dugout Discussion chatroom remains open right through to the final whistle.

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  1. JK - Cønt ⭐
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 1 day ago

    is Michu actually looking threatening?

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    1. Dr Dream
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 1 day ago

      No, not really.

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    2. Somalion
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      He's given out a few times, I'd certainly feel threatened by him.

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    3. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      He set up a couple of good chances and almost got a shot away. He keeps coming deep though.

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  2. DRIZ ✅
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 1 day ago

    Shelvey fail

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    1. chrisjdgrady
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 1 day ago

      so glad i took a minute to think about taking a -4 for him. what a silly idea

      (now watch him score)

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    2. Jax
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      Why not wait til full time to say these kind if things.

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    3. DonTheSpecialOne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      45 mins jeez, he's not Suarez

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  3. LOCO ABREU
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 1 day ago

    start chester or m.olsson next week?

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    1. - DC -
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      Both if Swansea look toothless again in this second half.

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    2. chrisjdgrady
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      both

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    3. LOCO ABREU
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      bench ramsey?

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      1. chrisjdgrady
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 23 hours ago

        if there ever was a game to bench him..... probably not though

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      2. Camp No No
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 23 hours ago

        As a Ramsey owner I probably will. This is a game they just won't win, and I'd be very surprised if he got anything more than one assist. Doubt even that. Clean sheet and bonuses, you can forget.

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  4. - DC -
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 1 day ago

    LOLP

    Mig
    Coleman - Chester - Terry
    RMorrison - Ramsey - Ozil - Hazard
    Aguero - Lukaku (c) - Suarez

    Lewis - GJohnson - Brady - Ward

    1FT or should I save it? £0.6m in the bank.

    Thanks.

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    1. LOCO ABREU
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      nice team,only problem is pool defence but next they have cardiff at home

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      1. - DC -
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 23 hours ago

        Which is why I'm keeping. Then I'll do Mignolet to Howard and downgrade Johnson.

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  5. FollowFollow
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 1 day ago

    Any earl shouts for a jan WC?
    whats your team?

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    1. FollowFollow
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      Liverpool have some great fixtures

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      1. FollowFollow
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 23 hours ago

        Pool, Everton and ars have good fixtures

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    2. The Sarjeant
      • 12 Years
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      West Ham.

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      1. FollowFollow
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 23 hours ago

        3 away games including against chelsea?

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        1. The Sarjeant
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 23 hours ago

          What?

          Look at GW19 onwards and tell me you don't want a West Ham defender.

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          1. FollowFollow
            • 12 Years
            12 years, 23 hours ago

            I have looked
            I don't want a West ham defender

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          2. FollowFollow
            • 12 Years
            12 years, 23 hours ago

            Also the Jan WC cannot be used in December (GW19)

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  6. Stephen - Robot Daniels
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 23 hours ago

    That Graham celebration was so long and obvious it was worse than an actual full on celebration 🙂

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  7. RÏɠBY
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 23 hours ago

    rosenoir not playing.. fiddlesticks!

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  8. FPL Notebook (John)
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 23 hours ago

    Got lost a couple of pages ago. My team at the moment:

    ------------- Mignolet --------------

    - Evra McAuley Walker Terry -

    -- Nasri Sessegnon Ramsey --

    ---- Aguero Lukaku Suarez ----
    ----------------------------------------------
    Bench: 4M, Ward Prowse, Chester, Delph

    £2M in bank.
    Already made a transfer. Worth taking a hit to do Nasri -> Hazard or Mignolet -> Howard?

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    1. RÏɠBY
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      do you expect to get points from terry and evra?

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      1. FPL Notebook (John)
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 23 hours ago

        Only from goals and assists...
        I'll probably ditch Terry after the Palace game. Utd have a few chances for clean sheets in coming weeks

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  9. Drip Doctor
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 23 hours ago

    Asked earlier, different crowd now.

    Over the Christmas period:

    Barkley & Rooney or Nasri/Silva & Lukaku?

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    1. Venom Snake
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      Barkley and Rooney for the rest of the season

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    2. RÏɠBY
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      i wouldn't be suprised if rooney has a mental breakdown trying to keep buoyant that clump of crap

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      12 years, 23 hours ago

      Silva and Lukaku

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  10. Fin
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 23 hours ago

    Hows P. Hernandez looking?

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    1. Somalion
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      Like he's 5 minutes away from another 2 months out...

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      1. Fin
        • 12 Years
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        feck

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        1. Somalion
          • 15 Years
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          He always looks like that 😉

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          1. RÏɠBY
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 23 hours ago

            haha 🙂

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    2. Jax
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      Shite

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  11. sinik
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 23 hours ago

    do people still have Michu?

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    1. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      No he is injured.

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      1. sinik
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 23 hours ago

        he played the first half..guess he's just back now..

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      2. RÏɠBY
        • 14 Years
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        maybe but physically he's going through the motions

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  12. Venom Snake
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 23 hours ago

    1 CS gone, 1 to go

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  13. Avon Barksdale
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 23 hours ago

    Caught at the end of the last page.

    Has anyone toyed with the possiblility of rotating Rooney and Aguero starting from GW 17, many I assume have Suarez Aguero and Lukaku and would obviously like Rooney for his good fixtures I have no money tied up in either so wouldnt be losing massive value by doing it.

    GW 17-18 Rooney has WHM at home and HUL away
    GW 19-22 Aguero has Palace at home Swans away NEWC away and CAR at home
    GW 23-25 Rooney has CAR at home STK away and FUL at home
    GW 26-27 Aguero has STK home and SUN at home

    If you can afford to carry some extra cash in the bank to cover rises etc its certainly manageable and could be very profitable.

    Front 8 is this

    Ozil Hazard Ramsey Coutinho
    Suarez Lakakaka Negredo

    Plan on dumping coutinho for Paulinho probably after seeing Jermaine defoe say on goals on sunday he should be getting more goals his role in the team is to get goals and hes sure more will come. So that will leave me 3.7 in the bank to upgrade Negredo to Aguero looked at the fixture rotation and it looks like it could work well in little blocks. Anyone ever triend anything similar if they are happy with the rest of their team Lukaku and Suarez are nailed on for me so no other option really.

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    1. Kostja
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      That would be over 1 mil down the drain for me so cant do it

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      1. Avon Barksdale
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 23 hours ago

        Yeah i getcha too much, what u think of the idea though?

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        1. Kostja
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 23 hours ago

          I personally have tryed plans like this and they always fail, as plans change weekly with injuries etc. Usually end up taking hits to fix the situation. So it is kind of wasting transfers and any gain usually wiped out by the hits and players not performing according to fixture. If I ditch one of the big 3 up front it will be until Jan

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          1. Kostja
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 23 hours ago

            jan WC

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          2. Avon Barksdale
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 23 hours ago

            Fair point, gonna try it anyway with Rooney in 17-18 and Aguero from 19-22 and if Sergio is still on fire i'll just stick with him.

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    2. The Sarjeant
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      A waste of transfers. And you'll need them for other things.

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      1. Avon Barksdale
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 23 hours ago

        It would be 4 transfers over 10 GW? Hardly a waste..

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        1. The Sarjeant
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 23 hours ago

          It is.

          Also form beats fixtures.

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    3. FPL Notebook (John)
      • 12 Years
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      Not bad actually

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  14. jdoyle
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 23 hours ago

    lmao

    on the stream i'm watching the guy just turned on the subtitles for Carragher

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    1. HurriKane
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      his accent is so damn annoying

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    2. chrisjdgrady
      • 12 Years
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      lol

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    3. sinik
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      😆

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    4. RÏɠBY
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      hahaha superb 🙂

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    5. Bubz
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      😆

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  15. sinik
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 23 hours ago

    damn you Gerrard..if you hadn't pulled your hamstring I could have leisurely done my Januzaj -> Barkley swap and finally not had a casual 2 pointer (if I'm lucky) sitting on my bench every week..

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  16. TheSteady ¤ Wines th…
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 23 hours ago

    Haha, lol at all those Shelvey kneejerkers 😆

    oh wait....

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    1. DonTheSpecialOne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      (Vc) 😯

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  17. jdoyle
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 23 hours ago

    Ray Winstone offering Michu 6/1 to score next. Safe to say its not happening.

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    1. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      I like Ray.

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      1. chrisjdgrady
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 23 hours ago

        excellent actor

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  18. My name is an echo
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 23 hours ago

    Is Gerrard confirmed out? See he is down to only 50% chance of playing

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    1. sinik
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      reports say 6 weeks

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      1. Somalion
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 23 hours ago

        Nothing confirmed yet lads, 6 weeks is the worst case scenario.

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        1. sinik
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 23 hours ago

          yeah I don't know why I hit post without adding in "but no scan yet"

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          1. Somalion
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 23 hours ago

            Don't worry about it, just don't want it to spread as confirmed until we have anything solid!

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            1. sinik
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              12 years, 23 hours ago

              some people just want to watch the world burn 😯

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    2. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      I don't get how he's gone down to 50%.... There's been no official report

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    3. A.
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      He's having a scan today, could be fit next weekend, could be out for 6 weeks, its some kind of hamstring injury.

      I doubt he'll play vs Spurs whatever happens, but if its not serious then no reason why he wouldn't be back for Cardiff. Wait for news.

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  19. Les Bleus
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 23 hours ago

    What does Rosenior not start anymore? Out of favor?

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    1. sinik
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      apparently always a backup for Chester

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  20. Captain Shirokov
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 23 hours ago

    Chico, you shit c**t.

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    1. Somalion
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      Shit coat?

      Not sure why you'd wear him as a coat.

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      1. Epic Fail
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 23 hours ago

        😀

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    2. Granville
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      Nice.

      🙄

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    3. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      at least Chico has a goal threat

      Williams is f'n useless

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    4. Holy See
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      One of his lesser known hits.

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      1. RÏɠBY
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 23 hours ago

        🙂

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    5. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      Chico you can't.

      Yes he can. Plenty of time.

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  21. The Gambler.
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 23 hours ago

    Did people on here actually buy Shelvey? He is hideous.

    Who are your worst FPL buys?

    Mines are -

    1. Brady
    2. Drenthe
    3. Boselli

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    1. Les Bleus
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      Anelka, JWP, Lukaku at Chelsea

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    2. r0nh
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      Any Utd defender this season

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    3. A.
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      Drenthe (oh god, why?!)
      Pablo Hernandez (bring him in, injury in training same week)
      Danny Graham (last season)

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    4. Konig Luther
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      Shelvey, but in last season... stupid mistake, never he will see my team again

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    5. Holy See
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      I've owned 2 & 3. I've had Tiote, Cattermole way back. HBA this season was a bit crap.

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    6. DonTheSpecialOne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      Form, hul+nor, swansea crushed Newcastle 3-0 home. I actually thought he could be a differential

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    7. beric
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      drenthe is certainly one of mine

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    8. Better off with a pin and a…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      Torres (at Chelsea). Mainly for double gameweeks. Never, ever worked. At least the last time I got 1 whole assist.

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    9. Sif
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      Brady was quality first part of the season, had him since GW1 but never got point as always benched. Looks a shadow of this now though so time to sell 🙁 Thought he might be a season keeper.

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    10. RÏɠBY
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      pennant.. don't laugh.. i really thought he'd be a great diff
      he played about 4 minutes

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  22. Yome
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 23 hours ago

    Best Chico replacement? MOlsson, Distin (doubling up), Ridgewell...?

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    1. The Gambler.
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      Distin/Jags

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      1. Yome
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 23 hours ago

        So I would double up on Everton as I have Coleman. Not a risk then?

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        1. DÏLKS
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 23 hours ago

          I would.

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          1. Yome
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 23 hours ago

            Are you doubling up Dilks?

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            1. DÏLKS
              • 12 Years
              12 years, 23 hours ago

              Yup, Howard and Coleman.

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        2. Absinthe 42
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 23 hours ago

          Yes but upside is good. He who dares Rodney...

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    2. Les Bleus
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      I'm thinking of doing GJ to Distin and doubling up with Coleman

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      1. Yome
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 23 hours ago

        I could do that too. I still haven't pulled the trigger, Distin is rising tonight!

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        1. Absinthe 42
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 23 hours ago

          I did it earlier. It feels good post transfer.

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    3. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      Chico? Lol

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  23. Etihader
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 23 hours ago

    Good that there are no minus bps. Shelvey with 5 giveaways will be on top of the
    Iist.

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  24. CFC1990
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 23 hours ago

    Mignolet (tot)
    Terry (CRY), Coleman (STO), Turner (WBA)
    Ozil (mci), Ramsey (mci), Barkley (FUL), R Morrison (SUN)
    Aguero (ARS), Suarez (tot), Rooney (avl)

    Lewis (WBA), Brady (STOI), Clyne (new), Koscielny (mci)

    2 FT's. 0.1m in the bank.

    I am 0.7m short of a straight swap from Brady to Fer.

    Worth doing:

    Brady and Koscielny to Fer and M Turner?

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  25. Somalion
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 23 hours ago

    Pablo H was doing well there.... Until they took the ball off him with no effort.

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    1. Get up ya bum
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      🙁

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  26. Desertbug
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 23 hours ago

    Howard rocket ship on its way up again today...

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    1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      he might actually make it over the line otnight

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      1. Desertbug
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 23 hours ago

        Five hours to go or so? I'd guess so. May leave enough room for yet another rise by end of week.

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    2. Somalion
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      I always thought that was such an unimaginative nickname for a willy.

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  27. Get up ya bum
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    12 years, 23 hours ago

    pablo playing well? Taking set pieces?

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    1. chrisjdgrady
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      from the little ive payed attention, swansea arent playing well in general

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    2. Somalion
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      Not corners anyways at the moment... He might in a bit though!

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  28. Yome
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    Who is doubling up on Everton from this weekend?

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    1. DonTheSpecialOne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
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      o/

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      1. DonTheSpecialOne
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 23 hours ago

        Tripling actually

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    2. chrisjdgrady
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      i have coleman barkley and lukaku 🙂

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      1. Yome
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 23 hours ago

        Triple up yeah!

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    3. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      • 14 Years
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      a lot ..... cue mass fail

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      1. Desertbug
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
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        Or mass hysteria

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    4. Better off with a pin and a…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      Howard, Coleman and Lukaku!

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    5. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      O/

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    6. Old Man
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
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      Highly likely - depends on what injuries crop up in the European matches. Already have Gerrard to sort out. Still unsure whether it would be Jags or Distin.

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  29. Granville
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    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 23 hours ago

    Tiendalli and Dyer don't really make a good right side pairing do they.

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 23 hours ago

      Plus, what kind of a name is Dwight Tiendalli?

      it's no Angel Rangel

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    2. RÏɠBY
      • 14 Years
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      they just look fractured.. hard to point out the cause as they all are woeful

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  30. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
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    Shelvey is getting hard to ignore

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