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Sky Sports Focus – Player List Analysis – Defenders

Last week, we published our first article on the Sky Sports Fantasy Football Player Price List by casting an eye over the Goalkeepers. We continue our assessment of the season ahead by analysing the defenders, breaking our options down into three categories – budget, mid-price and premium.

In terms of scoring, clean sheets remain the bread and butter of our defenders’ returns, with each successful shut-out bringing home five points. Bearing in mind that we’re denied the option to rotate defenders in the Sky Sports game, though, picking players from weaker back lines carries a greater risk: your defender will be deducted one point for each goal conceded. As a rule, you don’t want to be playing the fixtures too often in defence and should reserve your transfers for use further up the field, where big returns are available.

As we’ll see below, Sky Sports clearly place a premium on defensive returns. Chelsea and Arsenal delivered a clean sheet almost every other game last season, with 18 and 17 shut-outs respectively, and along with City’s main options and Everton’s attacking full-backs (16 and 15 clean sheets respectively), dominate the top price bracket.

As mentioned in our keeper analysis, if you’re reluctant to splash the cash at the back, opting for targets from consistent mid-price sides that are less likely tempt us into restructuring, is another viable tactic to consider. Last season, for example, Sunderland, West Ham, Southampton and Palace were fairly resilient both in front of their own fans and on their travels – they all kept at least six clean sheets at home and five on the road. Fortunes change from one season to the next, of course, and while we’ve some doubts whether the Saints will be quite so resilient under Ronald Koeman, the Black Cats and Eagles offer room for optimism, given their mid-season defensive progress under Gus Poyet and Tony Pulis.

Obvious attacking potential aside, another factor to consider when selecting your defenders in the Sky Sports game is the bonus point system, which rewards players for certain distribution and defensive qualities. There is an additional two bonus points on offer for 60 completed passes and also for four successful tackles – to put that into perspective, Angel Rangel and Pablo Zabaleta were joint-top for defenders bonus last season, with both earning 28 bonus points: almost the equivalent of six clean sheets. The Members area stats highlight the likely beneficiaries and can help you decipher which players from a particular back line are best placed to reap the bonus rewards.

Budget Bracket

It’s a real struggle to find many options from the three promoted teams this season, though Kieran Trippier (4.8) seems to stand head and shoulders above the rest. The Burnley full-back grabbed a goal and 12 assists in 41 appearances last term and also has a hand in set-pieces – while it’s highly unlikely that Sean Dyche’s side will get anywhere near the 18 clean sheets they picked up in the Championship, Trippier still looks great value. With home encounters against Chelsea and United in the first three, though, he has a tough start ahead and some may steer clear to allow him time to settle.

With 15 shut-outs accrued, Southampton’s backline was a great source of points last season. If they can come close to replicating that form, then Callum Chambers (4.9) could, potentially, be the cheapest way to get on board – with Luke Shaw now gone, Chambers could be asked to fill the void left by the departing England man or cover at right back with Nathaniel Clyne switching over. Pre-season could tell us more on the personnel situation and is also likely to give us an indication as to whether Ronald Koeman will be able to grind out the clean sheets in the same manner as predecessor Mauricio Pochettino. Young Matt Targett has started the last two at left-back for the Saints but has yet to be added to the Sky Sports game.

If you think Aston Villa can improve on last season’s nine clean sheets, then there are a few cheap options to consider. At this stage it’s not clear who is first choice to partner Ron Vlaar and the situation will require some monitoring; Nathan Baker, Philippe Senderos and Jores Okore are all 4.9 and the latter may be a real under the radar option, having recently returned to action following a long-term injury.

James Chester at 5.1, should retain his starting role for Hull and offers a cheap route into a defence that kept 10 clean sheets last season. Chester also bagged himself a goal and six points in tackling bonus over 22 starts, though his propensity for picking up injuries, in addition to the Tigers’ upcoming European campaign, dampen his appeal somewhat if Steve Bruce decides to rotate with greater regularity.

Palace’s form since the departure of Ian Holloway will have many looking to their rearguard as a source of points. Twelve clean sheets over the final 28 matches (seven at home and five away) highlights the impact of Tony Pulis and, assuming the Eagles boss doesn’t add to his central defence, then club captain Adrian Mariappa (4.8) or Damien Delaney (5.1) looks the cheapest options. With Julian Speroni at 4.8, though, some may opt for the stopper due to his strong save point potential.

West Brom’s pursuit of Liverpool’s utility defender Andre Wisdom brings the youngster into contention as a cheap option. Coming in at 5.2, he looks in line to be handed a chance in Alan Irvine’s back-four, though new Belgian full-back Sebastian Pocognoli is even cheaper at 4.7.

Rio Ferdinand also sets you back 5.2 after joining QPR for the upcoming campaign. The costliest option amongst the R’s back line, he looks nailed-on and Harry Redknapp will be relying on his experience to keep the the Loftus Road outfit afloat, with Ferdinand’s displays perhaps likely to earn him a few Man of the Match plaudits. It remains to be seen what price Steven Caulker will be handed, bearing in mind he scored five times for Cardiff last season.

Mid-Price Options

West Ham’s new left-back Aaron Cresswell comes in at just 5.2 and is the cheapest route into a defence that delivered 14 shut-outs (seven at home and seven away) last time round. In addition, the former Ipswich man produced two goals and 14 assists in the Championship in 2013/14 and his set-piece expertise could be very handy for Fantasy managers.

Mauricio Pochettino’s arrival at Spurs will ensure their back line needs monitoring. At 5.2, Younes Kaboul could be a snip if he can nail down a starting berth under the former Saints boss. Meanwhile, over at Everton, young John Stones (5.3) will be hoping to oust Sylvain Distin from the starting XI after impressing towards the tail end of last season.

Palace’s Joel Ward, is just slightly dearer than skipper Delaney at 5.5, though he offers far more potential in terms of bonus points. You can also find Ben Davies at 5.5, a player who offers the most budget-friendly route into Swansea’s defence. The Swans’ playing style reflects kindly on the bonus system, whilst Davies also proved himself as a decent attacking option with a couple of goals last term. A mooted move to Tottenham also has us on alert: Davies could offer a real value in new, more prosperous surroundings.

Villa’s Ron Vlaar also falls into that category. The Dutchman showed his qualities at the World Cup and is understandably the dearest option in Paul Lambert’s back line, at 5.6. If he can replicate that form domestically, Vlaar may be worth the money but with showdowns against each of last season’s top five from Gameweek 4-8, early investment in Lambert’s defence looks unlikely. Having said that, with Vlaar is being tipped for a move and his stock could rise should he find himself part of a more resolute defensive unit.

Stoke pair Geoff Cameron and Robert Huth are priced at just 5.8 and 5.9. The Potters picked up seven clean sheets at home last season and had the fourth most resilient defence in front of their own fans – if they can translate that form to away matches, Mark Hughes’ rearguard may be worth considering. Given that Stoke play only one of last season’s top five in the opening 12 fixtures, a strong start could be on the cards, though a 4.9 price tag for Asmir Begovic looks better value.

Hull’s Curtis Davies is available for 6.0 after finishing on 120 points last season – 55 points clear of any defensive team-mate. The centre-half carries a far greater goal threat than the rest of Steve Bruce’s backline and notched five times in all competitions last term, while his performances at the back earned him Man of the Match awards on a number of occasions.

Liverpool’s Jon Flanagan (6.1) racked up five clean sheets, a goal, an assist and 12 bonus points in 23 games after being installed as a first-choice full back by Brendan Rodgers. If the youngster can hold off the challenge of fit-again Jose Enrique and retain his starting berth, he offers the cheapest route into the Reds’ defence and has the attacking attributes to contribute at the other end of the pitch.

At just 6.1, Mathieu Debuchy is far kinder on the budget than any other Gunners’ back line option after arriving from Newcastle earlier this month. Arsene Wenger’s side kept 17 clean sheets last season and coupled with Debuchy’s attacking style, it could be a match made in heaven. The Frenchman’s disciplinary record is the only real downside: he picked up 12 yellows and two reds in 46 appearances for the Tyneside team.

Southampton’s defensive form in the season gone by has resulted in a price hike for their back four regulars. The Saints have some excellent opening fixtures, though, and face just two of last term’s top eight in the first 12 Gameweeks: that could see them thrive early on under the guidance of Ronald Koeman. Nathaniel Clyne (6.1) is slightly cheaper than Jose Fonte and Dejan Lovren (both 6.3) but with Artur Boruc under 5.0, the value route looks to be with the Polish stopper.

Premium Prospects

Manchester United splashed out £30m for teenage sensation Luke Shaw (6.9) and clearly fancy him as much as the Sky Sports reporters. They awarded the left-back four Man of the Match awards on his way to a rank of eighth in the overall defender standings with 132 points. While Shaw is unlikely to catch the eye as often amongst United’s cast, the potential with Shaw is obvious. Should Louis Van Gaal bring his 3-4-1-2 formation to Old Trafford, we could even see Shaw fielded as a wing-back, furthering his attacking potential and with Patrice Evra now departed, Shaw’s chances of regular pitch time has also taken a turn for the better. At 6.7, fellow full-back Rafael could also come into consideration if he impresses the new man in charge and with an excellent opening eight fixtures, United have the opportunity to rack up the points.

At 6.8, Jan Vertonghen will be hoping the arrival of Mauricio Pochettino will spark a turnaround in his form. The Belgian failed to find the net last time around but, having scored five times in his debut season, the classy defender has demonstrated that he’s capable of delivering in the opposition box.

Martin Demichelis (6.9) is a much-maligned centre-back but, in terms of Sky Sports defenders, he’s a bonus machine. Picking up bonus points on 12 occasions from 27 starts last time around, he also managed 12 clean sheets, an assist and a couple of goals: he looks the best option in the Man City back line from the off. The concern here, of course, is that City will hit the transfer market and bring in a new face at the back, due to concerns over the veteran’s mobility – reports suggest Porto’s Eliaquim Mangala is poised to move to the Etihad in a £32m move over the next couple of weeks.

Seamus Coleman (7.1) is handed a significant price bump and it’s easy to see why. Fifteen clean sheets, six goals and two assists last campaign have resulted in him taking his place with the big boys at the premium end of the price bracket. With Leighton Baines available at 7.5, though, many may opt for the latter’s spot-kick duties and corners in spite of Coleman’s greater threat from open play.

Arsenal duo Laurent Koscielny and Per Mertesacker come in at 7.5 and 7.6 respectively. The former could be the better value of the pair, given that he bettered Mertesacker’s tally by 15 points last time around. With 11 goals against at the Emirates, Arsenal’s home record was second to none, though as mentioned above, Debuchy could be the value route into Arsene Wenger’s defence.

If you’re looking at investing in a Chelsea defender – surely a popular tactic – then John Terry, , at 7.9, appears to be the man to go for. While he’s the second most expensive defender in the game behind team-mate Branislav Ivanovic (8.0), Terry earns his price tag. Often a beneficiary of Sky Sports Man of the Match accolades, his passing bonus potential (20 points last season) added to a goal threat from set pieces and obvious clean sheet appeal make Terry the stand out premium option once again – at least while he remains immune to rotation.

Fantasy Football Scout League

For those playing the Sky Sports game, we’ve set up an official Fantasy Football Scout league – the name is FFScout and the pin number to join is 8009000. Once again, Sky are kindly offering a £1,000 prize for the winner of the Scout League as we look to win the Best League title for the third season on the trot.

Sky Sports Fantasy Football Scout League

We’ve already set up the official Scout League with a top prize of £1000 to the winner. If you’ve tinkered with your Sky team and are looking to get involved, our league name is FFScout and the code is 8009000.

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  1. The Finnisher
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    If you assume Henderson, Gerrard, Sturridge and Sterling play most games then it is Coutinho, Remy, Lallana, Markovic, Lambert and whoever else vying for 2 spots. I know the latter 2 won't start very often but surely Remy wont be a regular when competing with Coutinho and Lallana?

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    1. MajesticWok
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      No. Lallana and Coutinho will start the season, I think. Markovic from the bench. Remy/Lambert when Rodgers feels like going two up top.

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    2. Your Mum's Athletic
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      This will sound stupid but with Champions league rotation on the horizon and so many attacking options at Rogers disposal, you could argue that the most nailed on option is Henderson........... (waits for backlash)

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      1. MajesticWok
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        One of the first on the team sheet (LFC fan). If people actually watched him, he's immense

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        1. Your Mum's Athletic
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          number one rule is pick players who are nailed on, I'm tempted with Hendo at 6.0mil, you know what your getting with him, you agree with me?

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          1. Billy Gilmore
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            Yeah, not much.

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        2. Billy Gilmore
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          His red card probably cost us the league last season.

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    3. Muffinz
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Not so sure Sterling is that nailed on..

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    4. Billy Gilmore
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      I think Markovic will play a bigger role than you think.

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      1. The Finnisher
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        And if so, makes Remy even less of an option. Just figuring that Henderson Gerrard, Sterling Coutinho Lallana, Sturridge will be the most used front 6.

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        1. Billy Gilmore
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          I think a core of Henderson, Sterling, Lallana and Sturridge will start most matches.

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    5. Mr Pink
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Add Can into that mix as well...

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      1. Billy Gilmore
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        He's deeper so he'll affect Gerrard.

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        1. Mr Pink
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          Agree, but the post started assuming Gerrard and Henderson to be nailed on. However, Rodgers has highlighted Can's flexibility on several occasions, so I wouldn't be surprised to see him played in different positions.

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    6. KIT
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      As much as I hate to admit it, I can see Gerrard being slowly phased out of the starting 11 during the season. He surely can't start all Champions league and EPL games, and I am sure BR will prefer his experience in the champions league games.

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      1. The Finnisher
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Yeah he is getting on a bit. That said, Henderson and Gerrard's role in the team doesn't really affect Remy. Not sure why I put those 2 there.

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        1. KIT
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          Na it doesn't but this is just for those considering Stevie as a safe bet. I don't think he is that this year. Maybe at the start of the season, but not when champions league kicks in.

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    7. chocolove
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      lucas?

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    8. kalmoffit
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      I think they'll start easing Gerrard out. They looked better last season in the games he didn't play.

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  2. LemonPoppy
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Guys what FPL price do we think Caulker will come in at?

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    1. Demí
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      5

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      1. Your Mum's Athletic
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        this

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      2. GrumblyBlowfish
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Hopefully, anymore than that he won't go in many teams

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      3. LemonPoppy
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Demi how are you feeling about his prospects? To be completely honest at 5 i'd throw him straight into my team. Caulker Rio could potentially be a great CB pairing.

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        1. Demí
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          I think the bigger thing for me would be his goal threat and that he'll likely play every game. Not sure i trust them for many clean sheets, but could still end up being worth 5m, wouldn't take him at more than 5.

          4.5- fantastic price
          5- decent option
          5.5- overpriced

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          1. LemonPoppy
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            I agree. I'll take him at 4.5 or 5. Skrtel, Wisdom and Caulker maybe my main 3 defenders. Potentially Lovren depending on if he ends up at Pool.

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  3. Your Mum's Athletic
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    @ Christina 😉

    Krul Elliot

    Cahill Debuchy Chambers Mariappa Wisdom

    Sanchez Mata Fabregas Siggy Albrighton

    Rooney Dzeko Giroud

    -Krul every week, good save points, can easily change to another 4.5 keeper with same club backup keeper

    Cahill and Debuchy every week with Chambers and Marriappa rotating, Wisdom can be changed to a 4.0 fodder who most likely to play

    Strikers very happy with

    Thoughts/opinions please

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    1. Hurnt
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Wouldn't double up on mata and shrek

      Maybe erikson ?

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      1. Your Mum's Athletic
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        If Mata plays behind the strikers, he stays, maybe tempted with Silva or Sterling perhaps, don't like Eriksen if i'm honest

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    2. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Ta...

      Nice team. Obv dependend on Cesc/Juan positions.

      I might consider doing Debuchy->4.5m and getting Hazard in for Cesc.

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  4. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Jérémy Mathieu is the most expensive defender over the age of 30 of all-time after costing Barcelona £15.8m (€20m).

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    1. Your Mum's Athletic
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      😆 at Barca, Vertonghen @6.0mil hmmm

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  5. Hurnt
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    This is it - dream team

    Minonne

    Cahill Debuchy Cameron Davies (spurs)

    Hazard Erikson Merallas

    Dzeko RVP Giroud

    Krul Shelvey Vlaar Albrighton

    0 ITB

    I know it's flawless 😀

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    1. flyn_wells
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      4-3-3? Surely not

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    2. godfather42
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      until sanchez and costa bag gw1 hat-tricks

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    3. DaveBensonPhilips
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      I actually really like it. Nicely done. Don't see many 4-3-3s around! There can be good value in defence if you think sides are going to tighten up this year and become more organised.

      I know Dzeko represents great value but I never feel secure with him in my team. Early season especially I like to have sure starters.

      Care to have a squizz at mine?

      DDG Myhill

      Cahill Vertonghen Chester Ward N.Taylor

      Haz Mata Erik Siggy Punch

      Rooney Giroud Long

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  6. DonTheSpecialOne
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    https://twitter.com/ManUtd/status/491674072489947136/photo/1

    Here at #mufc we like to travel in style. The 2014/15 away kit continues that tradition. #MUFCkit

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    1. DonTheSpecialOne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Lol I thought this was breaking. Yesterdays news

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    2. OPTA FPL
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      adjust your clock 😆

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  7. Beware the template
    Portsmouth Bubblejet
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    It does look as though the gradual slide towards template squads has begun once more, with anyone suggesting players outside a core of 30 being advised to standardise to the accepted norm.

    Bearing in mind what happened last year, this doesn't seem helpful. If you look back to what happened last year, most people's initial squads (selected as soon as the prices came out in July 2013) turned out to be much better than the template squads with which they started the season four weeks later.

    The hivemind process generated such "nailed-on" bargains as Brayford and Kim, while many FPL managers were persuaded to move away from safe picks such as Ramsey and Yaya Touré.

    A number of the board's maverick thinkers (such as Tosey with his trebling up in defence) have now left FFS, of course, but the most significant shift seems to be in the type of questions being asked.

    "What's the current template team?" and worse still, "What's the consensus about...?" seem to spring from a need to fit in with what everyone else is doing, rather than making the right choices regardless of peer group pressure.

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    1. Gnu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Agree 100%

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      1. Christina.
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Btw, I answered you.

        No, budget(5m-6m) strikers are not for me. Never have been.

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        1. Gnu
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          Thanks Christina, I saw that and replied my reasoning/question as I'm stuck on 3-5-2.

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        2. The Third Mannone
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          Arouna Kone? If he gets game time he could be a steal.

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      2. Lanley Staurel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Unsure tbh - whats everyones view on this? Do we all agree that we should all agree?

        Feck I can't make up my own mind....

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    2. Billy Gilmore
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Not sure you could've called Yaya and Ramsey 'safe' before last season. Yaya perhaps, but in no way Ramsey.

      Agree with your point though.

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      1. GreenWindmill
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Yep, don't remember seeing them in early RMTs and then being bullied out of them by the community. The point is well made though.

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        1. Billy Gilmore
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          Still amazed you of all people didn't get Yaya 😆

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          1. GreenWindmill
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            😥

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        2. Sz21
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          This absolutely happened to me..

          Yaya was one of the 1st names on my list last season but as the weeks dragged on towards the start of the season..
          I was led to believe he was just over hyped and sure to not do well.

          Any time I RMT'd he was the guy many said I needed to replace and eventually I did..

          Here I am a year later making the same "mistakes" again.
          I will do my best to have at least a few surprise picks.. but in reality very few players are surprises now!

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          1. trikster102
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            This is why I don't do rmt's anymore. I don't think anyone should. There is more than enough information on this site for you to work out who is worth having and who to avoid. Make your own team and stop getting other people to do it for you

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    3. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      you're absolutely right PBJ.

      I think FFS as a resource is phenomenal, but it is no excuse for laziness.

      The forum should be used to test out ideas among other accomplished managers, but those ideas should be your own. Not just the regurgitation of the masses.

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      1. @ocprodigy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        I don't think the problem is laziness - it's more peoples ideas being shot down. I'm purposely trying to stay away from the template because I believe it hinders people's abilities on this game.

        The moment you mention a player no one has, the population rejects the idea and you're told you're making a mistake. It happens so often.

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        1. 7shadesofsmoke
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          But avoiding the template team isn't necessarily the way either. Some template picks are outstanding - Coleman last year is a beautiful example of a player i'd never have picked without learning about him on here. He started on fire and stayed on fire.

          When people come on here asking for template teams, they are being lazy. They might be short of time, but at this stage, i fail to understand that one.

          The population rejecting ideas is no reason for you to revert to template. The REASONING they give can be. A lot of the time, the reasoning is good. Sometimes it's non-existent, others it rubbish. The lazier people accept it all as gospel, the people who invest a bit of themselves will see the difference and react accordingly.

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      2. Twelve years a slave
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Its not just last year, the template team rarely does anyone any good, even if it performs well you only equal with everyone else

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        1. GreenWindmill
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          That isn't really true though as there is no template 15, just a subset of the main players available (PB's estimate of 30 is probably near the mark)

          That means there are a massive number of combinations still available, all of which would be considered template but many of which would significantly outperform others.

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    4. Wavey Wambz
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Hulk this.

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    5. GreenWindmill
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Very true but it's basically inevitable unless people are bold enough to try their own thing.

      It's why I don't really RMT - I know what advice I'd get anyway.

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      1. Gnu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        yep same as me, it's pretty clear already what the general advice will be - plus I don't like people laughing & pointing at me. 🙂

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      2. Twelve years a slave
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Although you can argue that its the natural progression towards the best team.
        A whole month of the best fantasy brains sorting out the wheat from the chaff

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        1. GreenWindmill
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          It definitely would result in everyone doing well, but almost certainly not well enough to win.

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      3. Reedy
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Sometimes I post an unconventional RMT just to shake things up a bit. Most of them are so boring. 🙂

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      4. 7shadesofsmoke
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        "I know what advice I'd get anyway"

        absolutely nailed it.

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    6. Snevitz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      To be fair Ramsay wasn't a good pick at the start of last season based on his previous stats. There is always going to be some wrong opinions on here, it's all about processing the information and making your own choices. The template picks will generally score quite well vs the average work league teams. There is still more variation this year than previous ones and I'm pretty sure there are a few people quietly slipping Aguero/Toure/Sturridge into their drafts despite them not being popular picks.

      Anyone who goes for a front line of

      Tadic, Sanchez, Fabregas, De Jong,
      Pelle, Costa, Remy

      deserves the poor score that they will get.

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      1. @ocprodigy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Minus a potential rotation risk with Remy, that team could actually score extremely well in the first few weeks. I don't see the issue with it?

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        1. Snevitz
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          They are all new signings and most people on here have never seen them play.
          One or two will likely do very well but most are likely to struggle early on.
          Get in the proven FPL performers and then use your transfers to get the new players who actually do well rather than 'gut instinct'.

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          1. @ocprodigy
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            That isn't a guaranteed formula for success though. There's no law of football saying because a player had a good previous season, they'll have another good season. Some players have one or two good seasons and go straight off the boil.

            As for newcomers, again there's no fixed ratio. Football is an unpredictable game, which is what makes FPL so exciting.

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            1. Snevitz
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              9 years, 9 months ago

              It's the best information that most people have and is generally a good indicator. It's the reason that after players have a good season they tend to cost a fortune - Bale, Suarez etc. For every Michu there will be four or five Soldado's. Just transfer in the Michu of the season when they start scoring, you only miss out on one or two week's scores and miss out on the crap.
              I'm not shooting down your opinion, I just have a different one. As stated in the OP no one knows what will happen. I'll be going for what I think is a 'safe' team which will hopefully beat most people with 'punts' but some people will crush me by managing to pick the best new players. Sanchez in particular could do some serious damage to my initial ranking.

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          2. Reedy
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            A couple of these do have premier league experience, but yeah generally you'd expect a bedding-in period. But they might hit the ground running. And if you want attacking So'ton cover (great opening fixtures) who do you go for if you don't want to risk Tadic or Pelle? I agree that starting this particular front 7 looks a little risky though.

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            1. Snevitz
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              9 years, 9 months ago

              Yeah, I do mean as a whole. I expect a few of these players will do really but I think people should be cautious with new players. wouldn't you rather have a spread of values in each position filled by regularly performing players and then after a week or two transfer in whoever is doing better out of Tadic and Pelle once you have the stats to back up how influential they are?

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        2. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          Wow

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    7. applebonkers
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      • 14 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      tl dr

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      1. 7shadesofsmoke
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        😆

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      2. In Like Flynn.
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        No idea what that means AB, but someone likes it.

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    8. GreenWindmill
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      And if you want to see this process in action...

      http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/comment/7629495

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      1. Snevitz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        To be fair that midfield is poor, I stand by my advice!

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        1. GreenWindmill
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          Haha, wasn't meant as a criticism of the advice given there or any particular poster - just seemed pertinent to this thread 🙂

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      2. carloicecube
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Oh I feel sad for the OP. He arrives with a team he likes, with some punts (but that seems to be exciting for him so why not?) and some good general ideas about how he sees the structure and balance of his team...
        And he ends up asking for the template, and ends up with the template Haz Arnau Siggy Dzeko in his team.

        Damn, the guy even removed Schurrle after saying several times that he will keep him because he loves the player and named his team after him..

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        1. Snevitz
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          He did come and ask for advice, he didn't have to take it all for granted. The changes made his team more statistically likely to succeed which is what he requested in the first place.
          It's up to him to decide whether to follow it blindly or think 'actually Dzeko doesn't always start but City scored over 100 goals last season and Aguero is their main striker, maybe I should fit him in' but at least it gave him more to think about.

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          1. carloicecube
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            I'm not criticizing the people commenting, we always try to give the sensible advice, and that leads to template teams because we all read the same infos.

            I'm just sad for the guy, he had a team he believed in and with players he loves, and now he ends up with a quite different one. I agree that the second draft looks better, but will he get more points ?

            At the end of the day, I don't want to copy the template and get points without thinking.

            Imagine if Schurrle starts and scores a brace 🙂

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    9. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Hi. 😉

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    10. Shifty
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      I intend to go with triple CPL defence and won't be swayed otherwise!! 😀

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      1. Gnu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        I much prefer the triple CPL forward line, when they DO score, I want to be part of the action. I too will not be swayed.

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    11. andyinasia
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Well I'll be your new Tosey, if you'll have me. I'm swearing by a triple-Chelsea pick with at least 2 in defence: I'm convinced 50% of their games will have clean sheets. I'll also double up on Arsenal and ManU - at the end of the day the big names(clubs) rise to the top so as long as your picks are starters, you're in the gravy.

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    12. In Like Flynn.
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      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      I rarely advise people to get a different player for their RMTs unless I think there is a chance they won't play or will be mainly subs. Good luck to the diff pickers.

      I shall watch with interest to see how many who have commented here refrain from recommending template players to those brazen enough to offer three or four diffs in their RMT squad.

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Me? 🙂

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    13. OShaughnessy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Please dont tap the glass on the fish tank.
      Let the school swim where it wants to...
      😉

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  8. Wavey Wambz
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    a) Sanchez + Fabregas

    b) Ramsey + Hazard

    Which looks better and will probably gain more points?

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    1. jackx13
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Sanchez + Hazard looks best

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      1. JAEAESKELAEINEN
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        If you are willing to go that road, say goodbye to a balanced team 😀

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  9. MajesticWok
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Got lost on the last page...

    Assaidi will be undervalued if his move to Stoke goes through. I'm thinking Assaidi (if he moves) and Siggy (if he moves) plus 3 out of these:

    Sanchez, Ramsey, Ozil
    Hazard, Fabregas
    Sterling
    Mata
    Eriksen
    Silva, Nasri

    Avoiding Toure as I'm in the school of thought that he won't replicate it again next season (famous last words). I also think Ozil will have a much better season.

    Which 3 would you pick?

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    1. Super Silva Haze
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Hazard Ramsey Silva

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  10. hillbillypete
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    bit baffled by Stoke signing Bojan. No form whatsoever

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    1. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Great press for them though, and the lad has the potential.

      Also, they kinda need strikers and Cristiano Ronaldo has had fitness issues recently.

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    2. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Did he bring his own stepladder ?

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      1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Nah, they are digging trenches for the rest

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      2. 7shadesofsmoke
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        I think old Hughesy is trying to tackle this perception of the team, too.

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  11. Super Silva Haze
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Hazard and Mata
    Or
    Ramsey and Fabregas
    Or
    Silva and Ozil

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    1. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Pointless question, there is no right answer, all have similar scoring potential.

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    2. The Finnisher
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Why these particular combos, are they not interchangeable? I like Hazard and Ramsey the most from the 6

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      1. Drip Doctor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Yeah i don't get it, he's answered a similar question above with Ramsey, Hazard & Silva so surely it should be 2 from them 3.

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    3. The Point About It Is
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      haz and mata - great fixtures

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  12. Pringle
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    I have been thinking and I may gamble and go without Arsenal from the start due to their hard opening fixtures and rather go for Chelsea and United. What do you think?

    Krul Elliot
    Luis Vermaelen Mariappa Cameron Wisdom
    Hazard Mata Eriksen Sigurdsson Albrighton
    Costa Rooney Dzeko

    ITB: 0,5 (In case Sanchez becomes a must have)

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    1. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Excellent team.

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      1. Pringle
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Thank you!

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    2. Buck The Trent
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Thanks, I'll copy

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    3. jamiec75
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Common team. Enjoy mid-table.

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  13. Saint Steve-O (@EliteFPL)
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Mark Ogden reporting:

    LVG still holding to plan to assess players before moving for new signings, but Hummels, De Vrij and Blind all on radar

    Vermaelen still a possibility, but no contact made with Vidal!

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  14. Dangerous Dave
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Could someone tell me what they think of this?

    Mannone

    Rafael Debuchy B Davies Wisdom Long

    Ramsey Yaya Siggy Mata Allbrighton

    Giroud Dzeko Rooney

    Thanks.

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    1. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      No Chelsea, no party.

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      1. 7shadesofsmoke
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        I'm kinda inclined to agree. I am sat on triple Chelsea defence, myself.

        Also, who's your second 'keeper? There was a great community article on the new BPS and the busy keepers were set to lose out a fair bit. Might be worth investing in a player with high clean sheet prospects.

        Some nice picks in there, that frontline looks pretty solid and i guess that has always been the priority...

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        1. Christina.
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          Im trying to put together a team for week 1-3 with a view to a WC after GW 3. I keep on ending up with 4-5 defenders at the back per week though...

          😕

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          1. 7shadesofsmoke
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            Courtois, Guzan, 2 Che defenders (or one each che/mun) and one cheap Hull. Job done 😀

            Probably going to have a decent player on the bench one week but you can absorb an injury or suspension with a 4-3-3 or 4-4-2.

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    2. The Point About It Is
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      have you looked at che opening fixtures ?

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      1. The Sarjeant
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Don't need Chelsea attacking players.

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  15. The Sarjeant
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Sturridge is the most highly owned striker, yet I'm not seeing him in many teams here. We know he can score goals, the fixtures aren't putting me off him. City's the only tough fixture. And it's a bit silly to be planning on transferring him in later pre-season.

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    1. The Sarjeant
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Plus, if he scores a few against Southampton, you'll go down the rankings.

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      1. Kevin Twine
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        But if he doesn't, and your players do, then you'll probably start off well. I think RVP, Costa, Giroud e.t.c can easily match him in GW1, and then they have better fixtures after...

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        1. The Sarjeant
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          Going with Rooney - Sturridge - Dzeko myself.

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          1. Shifty
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            what's the rest of your team like atm Sarj? I tried fitting Sturridge in earlier today with Rooney and Dzeko...but can't make a squad i'm happy with.

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      2. Super Silva Haze
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Am stuck between him and Hazard .. u got me really thinkin now

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    2. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      It was the same with Jelavic & Snoddgrass a week ago. Everyone had them. Yet they have less than 3% ownership. Now no one on here have them.

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      1. Coaly
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        i have both

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      2. @ocprodigy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        I still do 😉

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  16. Siva Mohan
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Frankfurts's director Bruno Hübner: We hope that we will soon announce the transfer of Lucas Piazon, Lucas Piazon would help us.

    Hope he is going out on loan for one last time. Quality player!

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  17. Super Silva Haze
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    how's my team looking guys ?

    http://i.imgur.com/wf2LqZt.jpg

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  18. Will - Fantasy Football Hub
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Anyone know of any ooober cheap mids in the sky game that will get starts?

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    1. d1sable
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      9 years, 9 months ago

      Bacuna at 4.4

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  19. Coaly
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Thoughts on this please:

    Manonne (Krul)
    Luis Debuchy Chester Wisdom (Mariappa)
    Sanchez Haz Eriksen S Davis (Albrighton)
    RVP Sturridge (Vaz Te)

    Very poor bench, and having Wisdom and S Davis but on the other hand, the first gw is so uncertain could it be best to just get the main guys in?

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  20. mr messi
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Likely Newcastle back 4 anyone?

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  21. Ibrahimobitch
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    RMT PLS

    Probably like my 50th draft. But getting there

    Begovic/Krul

    Debuchy C.Davies Wisdom (Vlaar Mariappa)

    Fab Silva Eriksen De Jong (Wanyama)

    RVP Giroud Dzeko

    Would take Haz over Fab within a second but cant find funds.. Will wait to see chelseas preseason though to decide on Fab.

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    1. Coaly
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      RMT:

      Manonne (Krul)
      Luis Debuchy Chester (Wisdom Mariappa)
      Sanchez Haz De Jong Snodgrass (Albrighton)
      Sturridge Dzeko Giroud

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      1. Coaly
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        fail

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    1. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Haha, ffs.

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    2. GreenWindmill
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Damn, I wish that had been posted here 😆

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    3. applebonkers
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      GOAT

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    4. Kings of Lyon ★
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      😆

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    5. Reedy
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      😆

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    6. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Demi, you have way to much twitter surfing time on your hands 😆

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  22. djenzio
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    am i the only one with Puncheon??

    think he is great value for 6 and had a good finish to the season.

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    1. Nabs Kebabs
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      punchurface is in a few teams. a good option but sigurdsson is better.

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    2. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Had him, but the Sigurdsson sales reps on here sold me the option 🙂

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    3. Twelve years a slave
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Yes, good pick , good alternative to the more risky siggi

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      1. djenzio
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        yeah thats my thinking...dont rate siggi or shelvey at all....

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    4. applebonkers
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      if sigurdsson didnt go to swansea mariappa was my pick at that price, still interested

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      1. applebonkers
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        puncheon.
        been brainwashed by the capital letters below!

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      2. GreennRed
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Not Mariappa?

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    5. Moin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Many options at 6 this time..that's why he's going hidden

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      1. djenzio
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        yea true....at the moment i am on two 6 players...punch & snod....but i am worried there will be a lot of disappointment with these 6 price bracket players...i am wondering if its better going with a 4.5 bench fodder and a upgrading to a 7.5 mid....

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    6. Arvin-ation
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Doosra has him.

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    7. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      *waves*

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  23. GreennRed
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Is Maria PPA nailed-on?

    😉

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    1. The Sarjeant
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Yes.

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      1. GreennRed
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Cheers. The 0.5m I have for Ward or possibly Dann doesn't seem worth it in that case.

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    2. Shifty
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      how about both of them? 🙂

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  24. HVT
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    @disable you about ?
    - just wondering what's your strategy when it comes to (c) on Sky?
    It seems a tad complicated and off putting.

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    1. d1sable
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      9 years, 9 months ago

      I can email you my plan if you like? luke.williams3@btinternet.com if you want it...

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  25. Enzo the Baker
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    RMT this 4-4-2 team for first 3 fixtures :

    Green/Krul
    Cahill Shaw Debuchy Davies
    Sanchez(c) Hazard Eriksen Tadic
    Rooney Dzeko

    Subs : Wisdom VazTe Albrighton

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    1. Enzo the Baker
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      I've tried to fill the team with wingers/fullbacks who dribble/cross/create chances/ are mids on set pieces.

      I fancy Davies/Debuchy over Siggy/Snodgrass.

      Will wildcard after gw3

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  26. thepuntmaster
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    With Rio and Caulker at the back for QPR surely this increases Yun's appeal? I think he is nailed on and that centre back pairing is pretty solid so he will harvest more CS....

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    1. The Sarjeant
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      He isn't nailed on though.

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  27. ⁀⋎⁀⋎⁀⚽
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Anyone else feel Shurrle should start more league games than last year?

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    1. The Sarjeant
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      I love your username, whoever you are.

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    2. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      All of them! Class act. But Jose will tell him as the team are leaving the dressing room 🙁

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  28. elkunaguero
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    I'm suprised how many people pick Hazard... yes he has BPL history and could be on pens but he was poor duing the world cup and struggled at the end of last season... besides, he's the kind of players who can have an explosive performance against a poor side but generally disappear vs. strong opposition...

    I think it's Fab or Costa for me.... and possibly a Chelsea defender

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    1. Shifty
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      well the first 2 teams he plays are Burnley and Leicester.

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    2. Pringle
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      "...he's the kind of players who can have an explosive performance against a poor side but generally disappear vs. strong opposition..."

      Have you seen Chelsea's two opening matches?

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      1. elkunaguero
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        good points

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  29. Coaly
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    RMT:

    Manonne (Krul)
    Luis Debuchy Chester (Wisdom Mariappa)
    Sanchez Haz De Jong Snodgrass (Albrighton)
    Sturridge Dzeko Giroud

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