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27 August 2012 3810 comments
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A couple of Gameweeks into the new season and Sir Alex Ferguson has been tinkering with his up front options already, handing Fantasy managers plenty to consider. For the weekend visit of Fulham, the United boss retained just one of his four attacking players –Shinji Kagawa – from the side that lost to Everton in Gameweek 1; a sign, perhaps, of what may unfold over the campaign.

There’s little doubt Kagawa has settled quickly into his new surroundings. With his manager admitting the idea of starting both Wayne Rooney and Robin Van Persie for the Fulham match was “too much of a risk” due to fitness issues, the Japanese star was an automatic selection for the role in “the hole” against Martin Jol’s side.

Prior to the match against the Cottagers, Ferguson lavished praise upon Kagawa, indicating he expects a significant attacking contribution from the Japanese star over the course of the current campaign:

I would also include Shinji Kagawa in the [goalscoring] mix because he is very much an attacking player, nominally from midfield but perfectly capable of taking a front role. One thing for sure is that he will add a scoring dimension if he plays central midfield, as he showed last season for Borussia Dortmund. We have been low on goals from midfield in recent seasons. There was a time when Bryan Robson would give you a dozen through the centre of the park and Paul Scholes in his heyday was good for 10 or so but lately we haven’t seen that kind of tally.I believe that Kagawa will put that right, which with the addition of Van Persie to the team, should ensure that we don’t lose any more titles on goal difference.

With Rooney now ruled out for the next few matches with a thigh injury, Kagawa could be set to forge a partnership with Van Persie up front for United – as a result, we take a look at the club’s first two matches to ascertain just where, if any, the difference lay in the respective performances.

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Swansea Average Positions Vs QPR 2012
Swansea Average Positions Vs QPR 2012

Looking at the average position map from the two games, the similarity between Kagawa and Rooney at Everton is striking. In the Goodison encounter (left), Kagawa (26) and Rooney (10) were almost in identical positions when in possession – the latter’s propensity to drop back and influence the game from a deeper position dampened the side’s attacking edge. Nani (17) also played a part here, too; starting on the right wing, the Portuguese star continually came inside when on the ball, affording Kagawa little space to dictate matters in “the hole”.

Compared to the Fulham game (right), the difference is obvious. Antonio Valencia (7) hogged the touchline far more than Nani managed at Everton, while Robin Van Persie (20) took up a more advanced position than Rooney in the lone forward role. These two factors combined allowed Kagawa a far greater in the middle of the park and afforded United a superior attacking edge. Indeed, Kagawa’s average position against Fulham is the same as Rooney’s at Everton; a definite sign that the two are perhaps too similar in style to play together as effectively as Kagawa and Van Persie or Rooney and Van Persie.

Kagawa and Rooney

Despite his side having less of the ball against Fulham in comparison to Everton (60.1% v 70% possession), Kagawa managed to register slightly more touches per minute (1.0 to 1.1) against the Cottagers. He also received exactly the same number of passes per minute (1.4) in both games, though his overall totals are obviously affected by the game time in each match –he played the full 90 minutes against the Toffees but made way for Rooney on 67 minutes on Saturday. Regardless of who he plays alongside up front, the Japanese star is likely to see the same amount of the ball, going by the stats so far.

Kagawa (eve)Kagawa (FUL)Rooney (FUL)Van Persie (FUL)Rooney (eve)
Mins/Touch1.11.03.32.21.3
Mins/Pass Rcvd1.11.44.33.31.9

Rooney’s stats, on the other hand, vastly differ over the two games. Against Everton as the lone frontman, he had a touch every 1.3 minutes and received a pass every 1.9 minutes but, coming on as a direct replacement for Kagawa, he failed to impress in “the hole” alongside Van Persie. The game seemed to pass by the United number 10 – with a touch every 3.3 minutes and a pass received every 4.3 minutes, his arrival failed to have the desired effect.

A look at Van Persie’s stats against Fulham highlights the difference in his interpretation of the lone forward role – he had less of a desire to drop back like Rooney against Everton and was resultantly far less involved in the overall play with a touch every 2.2 minutes and a pass received every 3.3 minutes. With more space afforded to Kagawa as a result of Van Persie and Valencia’s presence, the Japanese playmaker managed four shots in the Fulham match, whereas against Everton he failed to register a single attempt.

Nani and Valencia

The battle for the right wing berth is just as pertinent a point. As the respective average position maps highlight, Valencia clearly offers a better balance on the flank and the stats more than back this up. Against Everton, Nani saw the ball once every 1.4 minutes – while that’s not too dissimilar to Valencia’s 1.1 minutes per touch against Fulham, it’s where the likeness ends. Nani made just 28 touches in the Toffees final third over his 78 minutes at Goodison; half Valencia’s 56 in the win over Fulham.

Indeed, the latter was United’s main out ball in the attacking zone against the Cottagers – he received 40 passes and made 29 successful passes in the final third; Nani’s Goodison stats are 16 and 12 respectively, a significant difference.

Mins/TouchFinal 3rd TchPass Rcvd Final 3rdSucc Pass Final 3rdCrossesChances Created
Nani (eve)1.428161280
Valencia (FUL)1.1564029143

The maps below represent the position of origin of each chance created in each of United’s two games so far. The lack of creativity on the right at Everton (left) differs vastly from the Fulham match (right) with Valencia on the flank, with United failing to provide a single scoring opportunity down the right at Goodison. The latter produced 14 crosses against Fulham compared to Nani’s eight at Everton and Valencia also created three goalscoring opportunities in Saturdays’ win – Nani failed to make a single “key pass” against Moyes’ men.

Swansea Average Positions Vs QPR 2012
Swansea Average Positions Vs QPR 2012

Nani’s lack of defensive awareness is another factor here and one which could play a part in Ferguson’s thinking. The Portuguese star’s tendency to drift centrally when on the ball resulted in 14 of Everton’s 18 crosses coming from the Toffees left flank, with the likes of Leighton Baines and Steven Pienaar benefiting from Nani’s wayward positioning. Fulham, on the other hand, were reduced to just five of their 13 crosses from the same wing with Valencia and Rafael limiting the attacking potential of John Arne Riise and Alex Kacaniklic in comparison. Furthermore, when it comes to goalscoring opportunities, Everton created six from the left on Monday, while Fulham managed just two at the weekend, despite having far more of the ball against United than the Toffees.

The stats certainly suggest that right now, on form at least, Valencia is a far more productive option on the right than Nani and with Kagawa’s partnership alongside Van Persie up front looking strong, Rooney’s injury certainly takes one difficult decision out of Ferguson’s hands.

*The Technical Area is put together using the statistics and maps available in our members area. For access to such data and tools on every player, team and match of the 2012/13 season, and for exclusive members articles like this, click here for details.

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  1. Ikey Warrior
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Does everyone plan on Wildcarding straight after GW 3 for the international break to capitalise on price changes? If not, when?

    And if so, do you still Wildcard even if you're happy with your team?

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    1. Epic Fail
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      No

      When I want to make loads of transfers. Probably for a DGW.

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      1. super zlatan
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        ^^^ this

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        1. 4vets
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          +1... I wouldn't have taken a hit this week if i was planning to WC next week.

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        2. Epic Fail
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          I think we may be the minority on this one.

          I'm still sticking to my guns though.

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          1. 4vets
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            Me too. There seems to be a mania going on here at the mo with no thought and all knee jerk. I have never seen anything like it.

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          2. Corrigan
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            No, you're spot on. We've just seen how devastating DGWs are.

            However, if your team's in trouble and it needs helping hand then a WC is just the ticket.

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            1. isacki: full casual
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              That's what happened to me. I was most certainly not happy with it - my initial plan was to soldier on until my team absolutely needed a WC - that time came early.

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    2. mgrea
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      At the moment that's my plan, seems the most logical although depending on what happens this week I'm sure it'll change!

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    3. Darth
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      I wildcarded quite early last year and it worked quite well, I will probably do the same this year.

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    4. Trigg ⭐️
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      Only wildcard if you need to - if 8 of your squad have started on fire, and are rising by the day, why get rid?

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    5. Ikey Warrior
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      Okay cool. Thanks!

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  2. Corrigan
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    I've decided Staylor Vorm, I think. Better long term rotation.

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    1. Back to Back Ballacks
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      u should go krul rangel i reckon

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    2. O Fenomeno
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      Good choice, I like Wigan's fixtures but can they be trusted?

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    3. Corrigan
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      13 years, 6 months ago

      I'm still toying. In hindsight, I should have gone for Mignolet over Cuellar and then Saylor over Krul and Rangel over Vorm, but that's done now.

      Wigan seem a decent prospect at 3-4-3. I like Boyce a lot. There's still question marks there but they rotate with Fulham brilliantly and one of their defender's is worth a punt.

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  3. Salah’s Sonnet
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    Anyone know when if a date has been set for sunderlands postponed fixture last weekend? Apologies, i've been away all weekend.

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    1. 4vets
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      Not yet.

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    2. Darth
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      No news yet

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    3. O Fenomeno
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      31st of September.

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      1. 4vets
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        Is it? Really?! Oh!

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      2. Salah’s Sonnet
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        is it? not confirmed by fpl in the fixture list but is it defo on the 31st yeah?

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        1. O Fenomeno
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          Check your calendar... 😉

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          1. Call Me Old Fashioned
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            Got me Fen..

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          2. Salah’s Sonnet
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            checked it, still not there as re- scheduled.

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  4. RVN10
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    13 years, 6 months ago

    Baines and Hughes or Lescott and Hangeland? Rest of the defence is Cuellar, Rangel and Clyne.

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    1. FPL Emu
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      I'd go for the first option, purely out of the value Baines can represent when Everton are in form. You'll play Cuellar a lot of the matches while benching Hangeland anyway. Don't like not playing 5.0 defs.

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      1. RVN10
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        13 years, 6 months ago

        You're right. I have Pienaar in my team too, do you think it's okay to keep 'em both?

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    2. Darth
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      Baines and hughes

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    3. LMNO
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      B&H

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      1. O Fenomeno
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        No thanks, I don't smoke. 😉

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    4. The_Druid
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      Baines & Hughes for me.

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    5. 4vets
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      Others have said it first but B & H 😉

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      1. RVN10
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        Thanks B & H it is!

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      2. Ings on the up
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        B+H

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  5. seanie3
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    who will score the most points this week

    a) Ade
    b) Michu

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    1. O Fenomeno
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      They will both get 100.

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      1. seanie3
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        nice one thanks, this forum really needs you.

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        1. O Fenomeno
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          In fairness the question is far more ridiculous than my answer...

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          1. lightspeed
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            +1

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          2. Costa in Wengerland
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            +3

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    2. LMNO
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      Michu. Ade will come on as a sub

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    3. COMH
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      Madebayichu

      Hard to say. Just keep saying it and you'll get it 🙂

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      1. COMH
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        Ok Adebayor

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    4. Darth
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      Michu

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  6. The Pep Revolution
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    Will Michu rise in price tonight?

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    1. FPL Emu
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      So it seems. Which is just incredible. Sort of wish I'd never read and listened to all the 'People kneejerking in Michu are noobs'-posts after the first days of GW1

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      1. The Pep Revolution
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        Im regretting not getting him in either. Have lost out on that one.

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    2. Captain Berbarossa - arrrrr…
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      yes

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    3. Darth
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      Yeah defo

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    4. The Pep Revolution
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      Thanks guys. Ill get him in tonight so.

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  7. Reckoner.
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    Michu set to rise again tonight. Hopefully that 0.1m will tip him over the edge and people in my mini league won't be able to afford him now.

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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      yup at 99.6% right now

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      1. Reckoner.
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        Nope was 101.2 as I was writing that 😀

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  8. Menly
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    1) Bale + Rangel

    2) Baines + Lennon/McLean

    3) Kompany + Mclean

    4) BAE + Yaya/Sess/Johnson

    5) Zabaleta + Nasri

    Basically have 14.6 for a mid and defender

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    1. FPL Emu
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      Baines and McLean for me.

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      1. COMH
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        Baines + McClean

        or

        Baines + Pienaar

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        1. Menly
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          Already have Pienar

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    2. The Light Knight
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      2 followed by 4 with Yaya

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      1. Menly
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        I'm not a massive fan of the mids in 2 though

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    3. 4vets
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      1.

      That said I have Bale & Baines but am so very jealous of Rangel.

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      1. Menly
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        13 years, 6 months ago

        Hmmm... Baines is juicy, but I do have Pienaar already, whereas I have no spurs whatsoever

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        1. LMNO
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          13 years, 6 months ago

          not a bad thing really

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    4. Lord Flashheart
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      13 years, 6 months ago

      Bale and staylor

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  9. Sir_Dunc
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    13 years, 6 months ago

    Baines to do well against WBA?

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    1. 4vets
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      I hope so but probably not. I've got him in for the longer term.

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  10. The Pep Revolution
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    13 years, 6 months ago

    Which player would you keep for the next few weeks?

    A. Ivanovic

    B. Lescott

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    1. Darth
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      Lescott in my opinion

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      1. The Pep Revolution
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        Thanks for your reply on the previous post aswell.

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    2. LMNO
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      Ivanovic. Lescott is a rotation threat

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      1. Darth
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        Chelsea have signed a new right back

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        1. LMNO
          • 16 Years
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          as cover?

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    3. Menly
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      13 years, 6 months ago

      I am keeping Cole over Lescott

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  11. bigfoot
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Howard (Begovic)
    Baines, Rangel, Rafael, (Jenkinson, Demel)
    Hazard, Michu, Pienaar, Toure, (Kac)
    Graham, Tevez, Van Persie (c)

    I can rotate between Rangel, Rafael, Jenkinson.

    Thoughts??

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    1. Darth
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Very nice team, cant see any flaws. Maybe a city Def but they arent exactly solid at the back at the moment

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    2. The_Druid
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      13 years, 6 months ago

      Nice. For me, the only problem is that your rotating def (Rafael&Jenk) are not nailed on. Rest is nice !

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      1. Torres76
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        13 years, 6 months ago

        No Ivanovic?

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  12. dribbler
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    13 years, 6 months ago

    Sorry for the partial repost...the answer to question 1 seems to be Pienaar but what do you guys think about question 2?

    1/ Do you guys prefer Pienaar or Fellaini? Reasons would be good
    2/ thanks everyone…but is it reasonable to assume that Fellaini will play more games?…and if you agree that he will play more does that alter your opinion?

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    1. Sir_Dunc
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      Pienaar. If Everton don't buy some cover in central midfield between now and the close of the window, Fellaini won't play so far forward every week. Pienaar on the other hand, always far forward and has a great partnership with Baines down the left. Both will play every week.

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      1. dribbler
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        OK thanks Piney and also to everyone who posted over the page

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      2. Captain Berbarossa - arrrrr…
        • 15 Years
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        Yeah, Pienaar and Baines with the amount of touches and passes they have are going to be BP magnets all season. Fellaini has had a great start but I agree he'll drop much deeper once Mirallas gets into the first-team frame.

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        1. dribbler
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          thanks...it seems unanimous and there was me sweating about it

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  13. isacki: full casual
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    REPOST - thanks LightSpeed and LightKnight for replies - Trying to get this one right because of the United/City letdown so far. Who would be your top 10 defences for value for money this season? Based on the cheapest nailed on defender/GK and not considering attacking points.

    I’d roughly go:
    Sunderland
    Newcastle
    West Brom
    Stoke
    Fulham
    Swansea
    Everton
    United
    West Ham
    Arsenal

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    1. dribbler
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      that's a difficult question...personally I would bump Swansea, Fulham and Stoke higher

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    2. LMNO
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      Swansea and Everton look very tight at the back. Would have to put them closer to the top.

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    3. Ghost Ship
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      Think Stoke will do well this year now they have no Europa league and Newcastle worse than last season because they are in it. Everton doing well already and should be higher; had high hopes ofr west ham with Allardyce's brand of negative football but they look like they are playing defensively but are still ropey.

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    4. isacki: full casual
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      Thanks. Some confidence in Swansea, Stoke and Everton then. The latter look a bit overpriced to me but I guess I'm getting Baines.

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      1. Haz to be Eden- Top scoring…
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        Stoke will be higher up if they manage to secure Dawson

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    5. Haz to be Eden- Top scoring…
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Newcastle Sunderland Swansea Fulham WestBrom Stoke ....

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    6. Lord Flashheart
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      Long term newc sunderland and everton. Only then Swansea.

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  14. Demel
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    So if/when Lloris signs for Spurs do we expect him to come in at 5.5m?

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    1. COMH
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      £6m I reckon

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    2. Reckoner.
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      Doubt it, will be 6.0m imo.

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    3. Give The Todd Some Love
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      6.0 I reckon

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    4. 4vets
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      If he's less than 6.0, I'll have him.

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      1. Corrigan
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        yep, hope he's 6 and then I'm not tempted. If he's 5.5, I may not be able to resist a potential honey trap...

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    5. Granville
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Why will he be more than Friedel? Is it really going to make them more secure.

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  15. FPL Emu
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    People, I'm in a quandary - please help. FPL is so difficult right now:

    a) Ivanovic out for Baines for a hit
    b) Fabio out for STaylor for a hit
    c) Nothing and play Demel, Cuellar and Zabaleta.

    Remember that the hits will mean I'll be able to do another transfer instead next gameweek, so there's some implied value here. I'm miles ahead in my ML already, so already thinking about some differential explosives.

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    1. FPL Emu
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      I'm definitely not miles _ahead_.

      I'm miles behind.

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    2. COMH
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      Definitely C

      Nothing wrong with that back 3 this week

      Fabio > Saylor when you have a FT though.

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      1. Corrigan
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        Count, what do you make of this (Vorm and Saylor I think, though):

        http://i.imgur.com/3BfJD.png?1

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        1. COMH
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          Vorm and Saylor instead of Krul and Rangel. Yeah I like that. Maybe one of the £5m > £4.5m

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      2. dribbler
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        i think c too...it's a long, long slog to the end of the season...excluding transfers you have 35 free transfers...use them wisely on injured players and potential superstars with good fixtures

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        1. dribbler
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          excluding wildcards i mean

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    3. The Pep Revolution
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      I would say a but the three you said in c would be fine for this week aswell imo.

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    4. isacki: full casual
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      A, I think you're looking at the best return here short term and long term.

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      1. FPL Emu
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        Yeah, I think you might be right. I'd say playing Baines over Demel/Cuellar probably represents about 2 points more expected value or so. The two other I think I might very well win over by catching Baines' price rise and having another transfer for Gw4.

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  16. EoinM
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    Mata out for who?
    IS r. bennet nailed on this gw?

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  17. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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    Tevez or Adebayor if you have Nasri and no other spurs attack?

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    1. FPL Emu
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      Tevez is a player you should have anyway IMO. Ade is a little hot and cold, and Tottenham are definitely cold right now.

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    2. Captain Berbarossa - arrrrr…
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      Tevez for me too. Spurs aren't convincing at the moment and minus Modric aren't as fluid going forward and lack incision in the opponents box. Also, AVB is more defensively minded compared to Harry so Spurs attacking options are unappealing to me at the moment.

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      1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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        Thanks guys, I agree with what you're saying, AVB is extremely frustrating and is certainly less free flowing than Redknapp, Think I might pass on Spurs for the moment so.

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  18. Sir_Dunc
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    When is a hit justified/smart?

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    1. Trigg ⭐️
      • 13 Years
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      When the players you put in will score 4 or more than the players you take out.

      That's the simple answer, but it's worth it sometimes to get a couple of long term options in at a good price too.

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    2. Darth
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      To beat a price rise, get a player in form before the majority does. I took quite a few hits last year and I'm continuing to do so this year.

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      1. Sir_Dunc
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        did they work out?

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        1. Darth
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          Yeah I think so, came around the 5000 mark last year. It worked because I got in early with players like Ba, it allowed me to have a very strong team in the second half of the season. I could afford players that my rivals couldnt.

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          1. Sir_Dunc
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            It's Baines and Hazard I want before they go meteoric. I believe Hazard can't go above 9.9 this GW. So I'm thinking Baines for hit now and Hazard after his blank (Unless Spurs and Bale wake up against Norwich)

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            1. Darth
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 6 months ago

              Do you think Baines will rise this week? He is on 81%ish at the moment?

              I have already taken a hit so wont be getting him in this week.

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              1. Sir_Dunc
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 6 months ago

                Yeah, I think he will.

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          2. dribbler
            • 16 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            about 3 years ago the overall winner of fpl too zero points hits...but the runner up who scored the exact same total of points took 33 4 point hits...conclusion?...hits are fine but you need to be very careful about them

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    3. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      never, I have strong feelings against hitting people...

      But seriously, I think you can never rationally justify it. If the result is positive, i.e Striker/mid scoring and bonuses then it is deemed smart, otherwise it's an utterly silly decision. I think it can be justified a little bit if you plan on keeping that player for a long period, so you bring in a striker, he might not hit big first week but does consistently later on.

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    4. FPL Emu
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      For some reason almost noone considers the fact that a hit might have more than just one week of repaying itself. It lets you do something else for your FT next week, so if not doing would mean never doing it, the difference between the sold and bought player over several GWs is really what matters.

      Like now, for me, if I am not getting in Baines for a hit, I'll not do it next GW either, as I am getting Hazard (barring injuries). You have to look beyond the first GW imo

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      1. Give The Todd Some Love
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        +1 couldn't have said it better

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      2. jamsiep
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        +1

        People's aversion to take point hits is one of the things I've never been able to understand. That and the whole idea of "coverage".

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        1. dribbler
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          what happened to your old history Jamsiep?

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      3. dribbler
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        I agree:

        (a) sell bad players
        (b) buy good players

        bad players are usually previously good players who are injured or unexpectedly dropped...good players are mostly guys who will play regularly, will score goals AND they have a good run of fixtures

        that's how you pay for the hit or even make a profit out of it in my opinion

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    5. Bmanne
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      I took a hit and got michu for marveauw think it will be good in long term...

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      1. dribbler
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        that's partly because Marveaux was a poor choice in my opinion...he's bad because he's unlikely to play regularly

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        1. dribbler
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          anyway you wildcarded afterwards which pretty much negates your point

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          1. Bmanne
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            That was in gw1 when i took the hit...and thought marveauw might play because of preseason and injured players.

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            1. dribbler
              • 16 Years
              13 years, 6 months ago

              yeah I checked your team...all 15 of my players started in gw1 and 14/15 in gw2 with the exception being Rooney...so you wouldn't see me getting a player like Rafael for example...that's how I like to play anyway

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              1. Bmanne
                • 13 Years
                13 years, 6 months ago

                Yip - i learned my lesson...gettin regulars in my team with wc...

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  19. Darth
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Does anyone think Baines will rise this week? Would love to get him in after GW3

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    1. Reckoner.
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Could rise tonight if not will do tomorrow and could rise again before the weeks out.

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  20. Torres76
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    I have two wildcard teams. Please pick one.

    TEAM 1:
    DDG / Begovic

    Ivanovic / ZABALETA / RANGEL / Jenkinson / Demel

    Hazard / Yaya Toure / Michu / Fellaini / Kacaniklic

    RVP / Tevez / Graham


    OR

    TEAM 2:
    VORM/ Begovic

    Ivanovic / BAINES / CUELLER / Jenkinson / Demel

    Hazard / Yaya Toure / Michu / Fellaini / Kacaniklic

    RVP / Tevez / Graham

    Thoughts please?

    Thank you

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    1. Bmanne
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Team 2...dunno how long jenk will still play though...

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      1. Torres76
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Thanks BMan

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  21. The_Druid
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Do you believe that Baines should be sufficient EVE cover? I see a lot of teams here with 2, even 3 EVE players..

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    1. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      He's gonna have to do for me at the mo. I don't know who talked me into N'Zog over Pienaar but that's the way of it. My decision after all...

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    2. lightspeed
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Defensively...yes

      Based on what we have seen so far I'd pair him with either pienaar/fel/jel

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      1. The_Druid
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        I see..maybe I should consider to add Pienaar/Fellaini then..Thanks guys..

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    3. THE BAD
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      I also have Pienaar... But since the start... I don't know if it's not overkill, but I think he will do really well this season...

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  22. The Bandit
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Michu rises again.... he should be could 'Old Faithful'.... for now

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    1. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      *called 🙄

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    2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      7.1 by tomorrow, how many times has he risen this week?

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  23. O Fenomeno
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    What do you fellas think of M. Kelly as an option?

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    1. perfectred8
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      not nailed on when Enrique is back match-fit

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    2. Demí
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      We don't

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    3. isacki: full casual
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Was subbed off for the returning Jose Enrique yesterday. Also had a mixed to poor game for me. Added to a lack of CS even if he gets nailed on, o think he's a no-no.

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      1. O Fenomeno
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        D'oh! Forgot about Enrique coming back, thanks lads.

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    4. afcblegend
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      On top of the Jose Enrique thing - pool defence relies on Skrtel and Agger being on their A-game. and at the moment Skrtel has had two awful, awful games and Agger not much better. Avoid.

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  24. afcblegend
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    I've gone with Valencia over Kagawa m'self. Should be interesting to see how they fare long term, but I am slightly surprised that people are getting rid of Valencia so soon considering they're probably making the switch to a player that doesn't have a game this week! Points beat prices.

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    1. Menly
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Same

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    2. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      I agree it'd be far too sideways and, if your team is anything like mine, I have other fish to fry.

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    3. FPL Emu
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Doesn't have a game this week - what exactly does that mean? Any reason to beleive Kags doesn't play?

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      1. afcblegend
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        ah no, just assumed they're going crazy for Hazard still. Kags has got that role nailed on now Rooney's out I'm sure.

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  25. seanie3
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    who should I transfer Lescott out for the next few weeks

    a) Williams
    b) Rafael

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    1. Darth
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Williams

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    2. FPL Emu
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      I prefer Rafael. I think people are overexaggerating the rotation risk, and Rafael is one of the more attacking full backs in the premiership. If he were a better finisher, he'd score quite often, as he always gets shots on (quite often off, admittedly) target

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      1. Corrigan
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        mmm I'm not convinced with Rafael. He was superb going forward, which bodes well in FPL and real-life, but defensively was shocking. Smalling offers much more solidity and is reasonable going forward. Jones can obviously play there, too.

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  26. Bmanne
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    What do you think about this team:

    Vorm begovic
    Demel, figueroa, cuellar, rangel, hughes
    Pienaar, hazard, kagawa, michu, yaya
    Rvp, pog, tevez.

    And the i wna swith tevez for torres in gw4 to gw7 And then back again...

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    1. Corrigan
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      3-5-2. Looks great.

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      1. Bmanne
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Thanx corrigan 🙂

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    2. mike w
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      I like it, prob because it's very similar to mine!

      Mignolet, some shite £4m keeper
      Baines, Ivanovic, Rangel, Jenkinson, McCarthy
      hazard, Kagawa, Fellaini, Michu, Kacaniklic
      RVP, Tevez, Petric

      Just a bit worried by no manchester defence... May look to attend tomthatvlater in the season once I've made some coin

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  27. sushi36
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    is hazard rising in price again tonight?

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      yes. utterly ridiculous

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    2. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Yes... just as he does most nights 🙁

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    4. seanie3
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      yes, everyone who is playing their wildcard is bringing him in.

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    5. Sir_Dunc
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      don't think he can rise again this week after he hits 9.9 tho

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      1. Granville
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Yes he can, he can rise another 0.1m. We don't even know if there is a cap this year.

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        1. Corrigan
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          Oh, there has to be. It's ridiculous as it is.

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        2. Pasqualinho
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          Yep - he can go up to 10 as he started the week on 9.7. Didn't Michu prove the 0.3 cap, though? I'm sure he had enough NTI to go up on Friday night but didn't.

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    6. Bmanne
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      I got him now coz my team is ok with him on bench for now and i think most people ar getting him in cheap as he would prob be good investment over the season...

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  28. Carlos Danger
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    quick question how does the fantasy premier league game judge 'The best leagues'? Is it like an average of the top 50 scores in the league or what? Pretty cool that ffs is tops

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    1. afcblegend
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Something like that. None of the big leagues would get anywhere close to the top if going by overall average

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    2. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Average of the top 5.

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  29. Epic Fail
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Holy sheeeet, probably old news, but anyone seen this?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19391807

    Why was a 74 year old allowed to do that sort of job anyway...

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    1. The Light Knight
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      That's always what unnerved me slightly about watching the javelin since I heard it joked about in Dr. Who

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    2. COMH
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Jesus! That is heavy duty. Totally agree that is too old to be in that sort of environment. Shame for the 15 year old who threw it. He will be psychologically damaged.

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    3. lightspeed
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Saw this earlier. Crazy to think that can happen.

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    4. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Was probably an enthusiast, the same as all of us. It's a horrible turn of events though, especially for the kid that threw the javelin.

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    5. Bmanne
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      I saw a guy get hin on the head with a discus while i was warming up once...he didnt die, but blood all over...he was 18..

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    6. Portsmouth Bubblejet
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      The 74-year-old bloke had years of experience in officiating at javelin competitions, which is why no-one can understand how he misjudged the flight path. And all of the judges at the competition had been given safety training beforehand.

      They're investigating as to whether there was a sudden gust of wind which affected the trajectory, and why the judge started to move towards the javelin while it was still in the air, but at the moment it's all a huge, sad mystery.

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      1. Epic Fail
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Indeed, I have no doubt he was experienced, but there comes a time that no matter what amout of experience you have, it becomes dangerous to continue your duties both mentally and physically.

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  30. CatMac
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Wild Rover if you're still here, I agree with you.

    I've never been the most prolific poster on here, but now I've virtually given up. When I log on, I generally read the articles, then some of the latest posts, maybe answer one, hit enter and it jumps 2 or 3 pages. I then trawl back to see if there's been any response and almost every 5th or 6th post is an almost identical repeat of a previous one. Do people not bother to read the posts and replies any more, but are only interested in posting their own?

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      to be honest it's not always a case of not reading. It moves so fast people just post questions hoping them to be answered. At the busiest of times the pages move so fast they are left unanswered so people repeat the question hoping for an answer.

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    2. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Just by the need for you to have to post this here seperately sort of shows what it's like. Even worse during the day.

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    3. lightspeed
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Agree. Hopefully as the season progresses the pointless and ridiculous posts that are the cause will reduce significantly as these players interest drops off.

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      1. CatMac
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        I agree with all 3 of you. It's just a shame and I suppose is one of the pitfalls when a site becomes as popular as this one.

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    4. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      tl... dnr 😉

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      1. CatMac
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        ? Attention span? 😆

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