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5 August 2018 3766 comments
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Fantasy Premier League managers have been handed an early look at Chelsea and Manchester City ahead of the 2018/19 season – and we’ve already learned a few things from the Community Shield team-sheets.

Much to our excitment, the cheaper options of Pedro (£6.5m) and Callum Hudson-Odoi (£4.5m) were both selected in Chelsea’s starting line-up.

FPL defender Victor Moses (£6.0m) was named among the substitutes but could get involved in the attacking front-three in the second-half, and is worth watching.

As for Manchester City, more of their returning World Cup stars have been declared fit for the Community Sheild than was initially expected.

Fantasy managers should pay attention to how well they cope with the occasion as they are competing today without much preparation since coming back to training.

Riyad Mahrez (£9.0m), Leroy Sané (£9.5m) and Benjamin Mendy (£6.0m) are of particular note as they were all in the Manchester City training camp this summer.

Meanwhile, a start for Phil Foden (£5.0m), with Raheem Sterling (£11.0m) and Kevin De Bruyne (£10.0m) yet to return to club duties, could provide a value route into their midfield for the early part of the season.

For more detail on the areas to follow in today’s match, READ THIS ARTICLE.

CHELSEA XI (4-3-3): Caballero; Alonso, David Luiz, Rüdiger, Azpilicueta; Barkley, Jorginho, Fabregas; Pedro, Morata, Hudson-Odoi.

MANCHESTER CITY XI (4-2-3-1): Bravo; Mendy, Laporte, Stones, Walker; Fernandinho, Foden; Mahrez, Bernardo, Sane; Aguero.

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  1. The Polymath
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Robertson v Lovren

    Is Robertson worth the extra 1 million or is this a case of "put him in 'cos everyone else has him"?

    1. Cok3y5murf
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      He isn't imo, but I may put him in because I don't think Lovren or TAA will start GW1. Wouldn't be certain even about GW2.

    2. Four Hit Wonder
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      For that 1m you get 20 pts tops in offensive output. Not worth it IMO.

      1. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        You must be forgetting bonus

    3. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Easily

    4. Finnish Fish
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Robbo or VVD are worth the extra, certain startes and attack returns.

    5. Brehmeren
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Definitely

    6. Regin
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      I got Robbo now but will switch to Lovren once he is back.

    7. Dugarry_21
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Without question

    8. FC Barkerlona
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Worth it for the extra goal threat and BAPS

  2. Four Hit Wonder
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Barkley is out of my team. The mug doesn't even know where to run. Everyone else is just ignoring him and passing to players who are actually in the game.

    1. Ask Yourself
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Was never a good option as soon as Kante returns he’s gone. Never will be the same shame

    2. JoeJitzu +42
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Likewise Drinkwater, get out of my team!

      1. Regin
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Why the hell did u have have drinkcoffee in Ur team anyways?

    3. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      they need another cm alongside kante. Fabregas whilst having the creativity does not have the legs and Barkley looks a little raw still even at his age.

      Maybe they will go in for one but if they don't then perhaps someone like loftus cheek could be given a run in that position?

      1. Ask Yourself
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Loftus is the most perfect player for that role that can ever be made

        1. DeathoftheParty
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          I know... Crying shame.

  3. klavan
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    A)Jota, Kamara, Shaw *bench kamara
    B)Costa, King, Jonny *bench costa

  4. Scheister
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Firmino likely to start gw1?

    1. klavan
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      probably but will be subbed early

      1. Marvin.
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Fair point. After 60 mins when we're 3-0 up he'll have earned a rest.

    2. Marvin.
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      I can't imagine why he wouldn't.

    3. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Highly likely.

  5. Cok3y5murf
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Bilva only faces competition from Dilva whereas Mahrez faces competition from Sane and Sterling.

    Am I right in assuming this?

    1. Finnish Fish
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      I think so yeah, Bilva also challenges Mahrez & Sterling.

    2. Lone Wolf FPL
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Like Sane cant play with Mendy assuming.

      1. Cok3y5murf
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        I never assumed that lol. And that's different. This is about whether Mahrez can play Dilva or Silva's role in midfield.

  6. Finnish Fish
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Stuck on two final questions. Please give me your thoughts 🙂

    1) Best defender under 6.0? (Already have Mendy & Robbo)
    2) Who? King, Arnie or Zaha?

    Cheers.

    1. Patch
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Bailly

      Depends if you have Auba or Aguero...but I would be tempted for King

      1. Finnish Fish
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        I have both 😉

    2. JoeJitzu +42
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      The million dollar questions...

      Luiz, Bailly, PVA
      Arnautovic

      1. Finnish Fish
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Ikr 😆 Cheers guys

  7. RubberDucky
      7 years, 8 months ago

      So are people with Pedro, sticking or twisting?

      Currently I am:

      Salah/Sanchez/Hughes/Pedro/Ricarlson

      Kamara/Arnie/Aguero

      But now thinking:

      Salah/Sanchez/Stephens/Gudmundsson/Ricarlson

      King/Arnie/Aguero

      Thoughts?

    • RomeluStormzy
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      I guess it comes down to...

      a) Luiz Mahrez (Kamara)

      or

      b) Arnie Bilva (Tomkins)

      1. The Pesci challenge
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        You’re up there with Scotty B you are ;).

        B

        1. RomeluStormzy
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          Haha oh dear... I will have to stop.

          Liking B after today, cheers!

    • The Legend Squad
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      What is consensus on here about the best 5m mid?

      1. Epic Fail
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Costa, Hughes, Neves or Cairney

        1. Ask Yourself
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          This but not Hughes or Neves

          1. Epic Fail
            • 15 Years
            7 years, 8 months ago

            Or Cairney.

            1. Zilla
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              or Costa

      2. Puncheon Guly
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        It's intriguing. Nailed on top 6 defensive mids will get 2-3 points plus a couple of goals/assists.

        Cairney seems quite attacking but in a presumably fairly poor team, with at least 4 more attacking players.

        Noble likely to be on pens if Pelligrini picks him.

        Kenedy is probably the most attacking but has bad fixtures.

        Think there's probably value to be found from one or two, I will not doubt choose the wrong one!

      3. Brosstan
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        No consensus

    • Gomolon
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Is Cedric nailed? Seeing him in a lot of RMT's but his projected points on the Member's RMT tool don't seem to imply a starting defender in a team with decent opening fixtures

      1. badgerboy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        When he comes back into the team he should be. He has had no pre-season and doesn't look like he will be ready to start the season.

        1. Gomolon
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          Ah, thank you! Has there been any word on timescale as to when he may be back in the stating XI?

          1. palace ash
            • 16 Years
            7 years, 8 months ago

            Back in training this week. Probably GW3 (guess)

    • Hy liverpool
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      So all will have

      Mendy Robo/Vvd Wb
      Salah Mane Richo
      Kun Arnie/Zaha King
      ?

      1. JoeJitzu +42
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Correct!

      2. Regin
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        U r brilliant! I have all of them.

      3. Garlana
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Safety in numbers...let's hope it's the casuals who make the mistakes at the beginning

      4. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Yup, we've all got exactly that.

      5. yakirh
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Yes exactly
        Still considering Sanchez instead of Mane

      6. Gomolon
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Wb ?

    • Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Do Arsenal have any hope against City?

      1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        I think they do but they will need to come out the blocks fast

      2. PvA
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        I think Unai can surprise a few people

      3. Chris_White
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Can't see it. City will rip them apart imo. Especially while Torreira still isn't fully settled.

        1. Andy_Social
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          Aye, this.

    • Lone Wolf FPL
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Is Holding a first choice Arsenal def?

      1. Lone Wolf FPL
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        I read a great post here saying that he may be first team player.
        here a link that was in that post:

        https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/aug/05/premier-league-2018-19-fans-previews-part-1-arsenal-to-huddersfield

      2. stat
          7 years, 8 months ago

          No chance

        • Speédy
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          I think it's Mustafi Sokratis Chambers Mavrapanos Holding in that order.

        • Lone Wolf FPL
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          yeah, thought so. that link is crap 😉

      3. Mackans
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        What about Lovren? Almost got as many points/minute as Robertson last season.

      4. Brajko
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Salah and Mane or Salah and Firmino?!

        1. Epic Fail
          • 15 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          So, Mane or Firmino?

        2. Marvin.
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          Salah Mane and Firmino.

        3. Cok3y5murf
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          The one with Salah

        4. yakirh
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          Mane.

          Firmino less likely to play 90 mins in GW1
          Plus there are so many good value strikers in the 6.5-7M bracket, more than midfield

      5. dunas_dog
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Thinking of getting KDB (with Aguero Mendy and 3 Liverpool)

        If does not play week 1 then Neves home to Everton would come in. But would have KDB for week 2 onwards and good fixture run (assuming of course starts then!)

        Good plan or get Mané or Sanchez as place holder for week 1 and use transfer in week 2?

        1. JoeJitzu +42
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          Think Mané as place holder?!

        2. Stupendous
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          He's not worth it and may play deeper.

          World class but not value FPL asset imo

          1. Zilla
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 8 months ago

            Last season says the complete opposite

        3. Jamie_GAWA
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          generally not a good idea to plan transfers but could work!

        4. yakirh
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          Mane or Sanchez as placeholders for sure!!

      6. Dugarry_21
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Sticking with Auba Aguero and Arnie for my opening front three. Midfield suffering a little as a result as I currently have three premium defenders. Do we think PVA is essential?

        1. stat
            7 years, 8 months ago

            I don't think PVA is essential. Tomkins offers better value at 4.5 I think, as he is pretty attacking too.

            1. Dugarry_21
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              That's exactly what I was hoping someone would say! Cheers

          • DantheManinaPan
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 8 months ago

            PVA a bad pick imo with Tomkins and WB available instead

          • Jamie_GAWA
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 8 months ago

            considering this aswell but Tomkins got 3 goals last year (?)
            where PVA got 5g 1a, maybe not worth 1m extra if same outcome?

        2. Jamie_GAWA
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          Lacazette has started all but 1 game in pre season, finished the season strong, and has banged them in during pre season.

          Being overlooked?

          1. Camp No No
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 8 months ago

            The problem is that with Özil back, there's a real chance that Lacazette starts on bench.

            1. Nabs Kebabs
              • 14 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              rubbish

            2. Jamie_GAWA
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              fake news? 😉

              find that unlikely tho

              as far as I know Emery likes to play a 4231 with a base of 2 enforcers and then a playmaker in front which against smaller team drops deep as a playmaker.

              something like

              xhaka torreria
              mhki ozil aub
              Laca

              Often then will shuffle across where auba will go up to to press with laca

              1. badgerboy
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 10 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                This seems likely, but where does Ramsey fit in?

                1. Jamie_GAWA
                  • 9 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  Ramsey was played as one of the 2 base midfielders as far as im aware, could be wrong tho

              2. jomikijiq
                • 10 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                it can easily be Ramsey for Laca with Ozil RW

                1. Jamie_GAWA
                  • 9 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  dont think thats happened in pre season yet?

        3. PvA
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          A) Sane and Mkhi

          B) Mane and Bilva

          B would mean a triple up on Salah, Firmino and Mane, but I'm ready to do that cause LFC are too good

          1. Hazz
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 8 months ago

            B.

            Mané is a big pull; Sané didn't do his chances much good today; Mkhi not a sure starter anyhow.

            1. PvA
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              Is Bilva a sure starter? That's my only concern really. Once Dilva and KDB are back would he play?

        4. Ziyech on the Bench
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          Schlupp a bargain at 4.5 played LW 3 games in a row and 2 goals?

          1. DA Minnion (Former great)
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 8 months ago

            Have him.

        5. stat
            7 years, 8 months ago

            If you were going to go with 2 x 6.5 mids, would they be Richarlison and Jota?
            Both seem to be nailed on and may sometimes interchange with the striker.

            1. Hazz
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              That's what I had before you posted about Milivojevic 😛

              Now I don't know!

              1. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Fyi Zaha won 4/10 pens last season

              2. stat
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  I think it's more exciting to go without Milivojevic, and even though Milivojevic could outscore them, it would be extremely frustrating to hold on to him for an extended period of time in which Palace get no penalties. At least if Jota / Richarlison are out of form for a while we won't really hesitate to get rid of them.

              3. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Yes

              4. Speédy
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Should start unless Arsenal sign another winger.

                1. Speédy
                  • 9 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  Reply fail@jamie_gawa

              5. Nabs Kebabs
                • 14 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                They're both head and shoulders above the other midfield options for that price for me.

            2. Stupendous
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              A Fernandinho and Mkhitaryan

              Or

              B Neves and Bernardo Silva

              I'm currently on A

            3. DA Minnion (Former great)
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              Best 4.5 defender lads.

              1. Mackans
                • 8 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Cook

              2. Oooof
                • 10 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Tomkins

              3. JoeJitzu +42
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 12 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Imho... Tompkins

              4. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Cook/Tomkins/Schlupp

                BHA later on for good fixtures

            4. wewillrockyou
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              Ederson/Stekelenburg

              Robertson/Bailly/Tomkins/Bennett/Malone

              Salah/Pedro/Richarlison/Jota/McArthur

              Aguero/Aubameyang/Arnautovic

            5. Piggs Boson
              • 14 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              Arnoutovic (liv BOU ars WOL)

              King (CDF whu EVE che)

              Tosun (wlv SOU bou HUD)

              .
              Is Arnie fixture-proof?

              1. The Pesci challenge
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                What about Mitrovic?

                1. Piggs Boson
                  • 14 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  I don't think he's on their level tbh. New club, and that new club is Fulham.

              2. Oooof
                • 10 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                No and West Ham are sniffing around for strikers

                1. Poppa Klopp
                  • 7 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  Arni set back to mid in last friendly

                  1. badgerboy
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 10 Years
                    7 years, 8 months ago

                    Was up front with Chicarito.

              3. Egg noodle
                • 16 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Are Liverpool and Arsenal goalproof? No.

              4. Andy_Social
                • 13 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                I'd say so. I'd avoid their defence due to fixtures, but a good striker with good service ca always find the net.

              5. Nabs Kebabs
                • 14 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                are you wildcarding GW5?

                1. Piggs Boson
                  • 14 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  Probably. But it won't be planned.

              6. stat
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  Arnie's points per min vs the Bottom 14: 0.073
                  vs the Top 6: 0.042

                • Cok3y5murf
                  • 9 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  No, he's not.

                  Arsenal and Chelsea are the only big sides he scored against last season. Also trolled a bit last season by blanking for 3-4 games and then firing after most sold him.

                • S.Kuqi
                  • 13 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  He is imo but still prefer King as a short term option. 3 gws and re asses

                • jia you
                  • 9 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  I switched out Arnie for Tosun today as I think he could do very well in those early fix. A little concerned that little pea might come into the mix!

              7. Egg noodle
                • 16 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                The Projections tool is a bit poor IMO. It should take obvious rests/injuries into account.

                1. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
                  • 9 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  It never gets updated often enough.

              8. Poppa Klopp
                • 7 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Hi

                Didn’t get any response just now, Please pick:

                A) Kun & Fraser
                B) Sané & Arni

                1. Oooof
                  • 10 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  a

                2. Egg noodle
                  • 16 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  Both relatively poor, but B wins

              9. StevePeave
                • 13 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Any Spurs friendlies left before start of season? Thinking of going Kane but not sure he'll start that juicy Newcastle fixture...

              10. Hand of Dog
                • 8 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Is there a player ranking out there that might be of use for a draft? Or had everyone given up on doing drafts this year?

              11. Football Heaven
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Why so much love for arnie? Yes I think West Ham have a better squad than last season but I think Anderson and yarmolenko will share more of the joy (they could help arnautovic more tbf) but they have tricky fixtures and if he doesn’t perform with his high ownership then his price will decrease. He also got a couple of braces last season so he wasn’t actually very consistent and his new position on fpl decreases his points anyway. I get the hype in a way but I think if Chris Wood starts he’s just as good of an option considering his fixtures, capability and the fact that Burnley are not affected by the europa league until later on. Love to hear your thoughts though.

                1. Naboo
                  • 13 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  Don't think you can really compare Arnie in that new West Ham team to Wood. If he stays nailed up front all season can see Arnie scoring 15-20 goals. Wood I think will get 8-12. Just my opinion not based on too much

                2. yakirh
                  • 9 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  Its classic form vs fixtures
                  I think I changed Arnie/Tosun /Zaha about 50 times